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| Started by | hughaguilar96@gmail.com |
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| First post | 2015-03-31 15:13 -0700 |
| Last post | 2015-07-06 12:47 -0400 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 509 — 42 participants |
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bug in VFX --- IF does't work hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-03-31 15:13 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work jfong@ms4.hinet.net - 2015-03-31 20:55 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-04-01 11:26 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Jason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com> - 2015-04-01 08:39 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-04-01 17:35 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-06-12 15:18 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Jan Coombs <Jan-54 <jenfhaomndgfwutc@murmic.plus.com>> - 2015-04-02 10:35 +0100
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-04-02 10:08 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-04-01 12:33 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work "Rod Pemberton" <bork@lllljunkqwer.cpm> - 2015-04-01 22:16 -0400
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-04-01 13:40 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-04-02 17:07 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-04-02 19:18 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-04-03 06:43 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-04-03 10:49 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work beeflo <beeflobill@gmail.com> - 2015-04-03 11:17 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-04-03 14:35 -0400
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-04-03 19:42 +0100
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work jkn_gg@nicorp.f9.co.uk - 2015-04-03 14:34 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-04-03 20:52 -0400
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work jkn_gg@nicorp.f9.co.uk - 2015-04-04 03:47 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-04-04 14:07 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-04-05 00:11 -0400
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work jkn_gg@nicorp.f9.co.uk - 2015-04-05 08:11 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2015-04-03 23:50 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Hans-Peter Diettrich <DrDiettrich1@aol.com> - 2015-04-04 05:44 +0200
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-03 21:32 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Hans-Peter Diettrich <DrDiettrich1@aol.com> - 2015-04-04 17:03 +0200
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-04 21:56 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Hans-Peter Diettrich <DrDiettrich1@aol.com> - 2015-04-05 18:11 +0200
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-05 10:13 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Hans-Peter Diettrich <DrDiettrich1@aol.com> - 2015-04-06 14:03 +0200
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2015-04-06 14:44 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Hans-Peter Diettrich <DrDiettrich1@aol.com> - 2015-04-07 11:02 +0200
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-07 17:21 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2015-04-07 16:02 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-07 11:06 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Elizabeth D Rather <erather@forth.com> - 2015-04-03 18:52 -1000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2015-04-05 03:54 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Hans-Peter Diettrich <DrDiettrich1@aol.com> - 2015-04-05 18:21 +0200
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-04-05 21:47 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-06-12 14:41 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-06-12 23:20 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-06-12 18:40 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work "Rod Pemberton" <boo@fasdfrewar.cdm> - 2015-06-13 04:36 -0400
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-06-13 23:12 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work "Rod Pemberton" <boo@fasdfrewar.cdm> - 2015-06-14 09:53 -0400
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Michael Barry <barrym95838@yahoo.com> - 2015-06-14 18:38 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-06-15 21:03 +0100
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Michael Barry <barrym95838@yahoo.com> - 2015-06-15 19:38 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-06-15 22:54 -0400
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-06-16 10:01 +0100
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Michael Barry <barrym95838@yahoo.com> - 2015-06-16 18:25 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-06-17 10:11 +0100
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-06-15 22:49 -0400
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-06-15 21:56 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-06-16 00:11 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-06-16 07:21 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-06-16 19:45 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-06-17 10:34 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-06-17 08:49 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work mhx@iae.nl - 2015-06-17 13:50 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-06-17 18:36 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-06-17 23:44 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-06-17 21:14 -1000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-06-18 00:15 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-06-18 09:27 +0100
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-06-18 02:04 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-06-18 03:32 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-06-18 04:19 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-06-18 12:31 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-06-18 05:57 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-06-18 12:21 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-06-18 08:01 -1000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-06-18 12:11 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-06-18 17:25 -0400
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-06-18 22:56 +0200
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work coos <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2015-06-18 18:54 +0200
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-06-18 10:53 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-06-18 21:31 +0100
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-06-18 23:58 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-06-19 08:23 +0100
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-06-19 01:01 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Thomas Östreicher <thomas.oestreicher@gmail.com> - 2015-06-19 01:07 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-06-19 09:38 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-06-19 02:51 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-06-20 16:35 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-06-20 21:28 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-06-20 21:33 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-06-20 21:49 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-06-21 14:01 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-06-21 14:19 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-06-22 13:16 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-06-22 16:53 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-06-23 15:39 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-06-23 18:11 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-06-23 22:16 +0200
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-06-23 23:26 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-06-24 03:23 +0200
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-06-24 08:04 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-06-24 14:46 +0200
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-06-24 13:03 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-06-24 15:05 +0100
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-06-24 14:32 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-06-24 14:20 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-06-24 20:04 +0200
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-06-24 16:08 +0200
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-06-26 08:07 +0100
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-06-26 08:55 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-06-27 00:56 +0200
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-06-26 18:06 +0100
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-06-27 01:00 +0200
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-06-27 11:07 +0100
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Matthias Trute <matthias.trute@gmail.com> - 2015-06-27 12:04 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-06-27 21:14 +0200
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-06-20 16:26 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-06-20 21:55 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-06-21 14:26 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-06-22 00:29 +0100
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-06-22 03:24 +0200
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-06-22 07:49 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-06-21 21:16 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-06-22 02:09 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work "Rod Pemberton" <boo@fasdfrewar.cdm> - 2015-06-22 05:57 -0400
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-06-21 14:27 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-06-22 11:58 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-06-19 01:04 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-06-20 16:17 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-06-19 00:55 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-06-19 02:42 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-06-19 03:56 -0400
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-06-19 02:47 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-06-19 11:37 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-06-19 19:56 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-06-21 21:23 +0100
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-06-22 08:39 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-06-22 11:27 +0100
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2015-06-22 16:07 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-06-21 14:56 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-06-19 00:40 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2015-06-19 10:55 +0300
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-06-21 14:43 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-06-22 02:05 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-06-22 16:41 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-06-19 12:55 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-06-18 10:00 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-06-18 20:56 +0100
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Hannu Vuolasaho <vuokkosetae@gmail.com> - 2015-06-19 03:13 +0300
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-06-19 08:37 +0100
WAS: bug in VFX... IS: More rants from Rantman of Rantland rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-06-18 16:33 -0400
Re: WAS: bug in VFX... IS: More rants from Rantman of Rantland "Rod Pemberton" <boo@fasdfrewar.cdm> - 2015-06-19 05:19 -0400
Re: WAS: bug in VFX... IS: More rants from Rantman of Rantland Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2015-06-19 13:38 +0100
Re: WAS: bug in VFX... IS: More rants from Rantman of Rantland rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-06-19 12:29 -0400
Re: WAS: bug in VFX... IS: More rants from Rantman of Rantland "Rod Pemberton" <boo@fasdfrewar.cdm> - 2015-06-19 17:53 -0400
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-06-19 12:07 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-06-19 12:55 +0000
The meaning of xt in Forth-94 (was: bug in VFX --- IF does't work) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-06-20 15:36 +0000
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 (was: bug in VFX --- IF does't work) "Rod Pemberton" <boo@fasdfrewar.cdm> - 2015-06-20 14:01 -0400
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-06-20 08:33 -1000
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-06-20 21:18 -0700
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 (was: bug in VFX --- IF does't work) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-06-21 13:09 +0000
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 (was: bug in VFX --- IF does't work) stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-06-21 14:50 +0000
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 (was: bug in VFX --- IF does't work) Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-06-21 23:58 +0200
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 (was: bug in VFX --- IF does't work) stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-06-22 10:54 +0000
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 (was: bug in VFX --- IF does't work) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-06-22 15:52 +0000
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 (was: bug in VFX --- IF does't work) stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-06-22 17:08 +0000
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 (was: bug in VFX --- IF does't work) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-06-23 16:43 +0000
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 (was: bug in VFX --- IF does't work) Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-06-22 20:19 +0200
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 (was: bug in VFX --- IF does't work) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-06-22 08:47 +0000
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 (was: bug in VFX --- IF does't work) stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-06-22 13:58 +0000
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 (was: bug in VFX --- IF does't work) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-06-22 15:37 +0000
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 (was: bug in VFX --- IF does't work) stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-06-22 17:02 +0000
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 (was: bug in VFX --- IF does't work) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-06-23 16:29 +0000
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 (was: bug in VFX --- IF does't work) stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-06-23 18:18 +0000
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 (was: bug in VFX --- IF does't work) Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-06-23 00:42 -0700
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-06-22 21:47 -1000
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-06-23 02:42 -0700
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-06-23 03:38 -0700
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-06-23 12:55 +0000
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-06-23 06:55 -0700
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 peter.m.falth@gmail.com - 2015-06-23 08:29 -0700
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-06-23 16:47 +0000
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-06-23 22:48 +0000
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-06-24 18:13 -0700
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-06-25 13:40 +0100
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-06-25 06:29 -0700
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-06-25 08:13 -0700
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-06-25 16:33 +0000
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-06-25 13:45 -0700
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-06-26 05:54 +0000
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-06-27 21:08 -0700
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-06-26 03:44 -0700
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-06-26 03:52 -0700
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 franck.bensusan@gmail.com - 2015-06-26 08:54 -0700
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-06-27 01:09 +0200
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-06-27 11:00 +0100
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-06-27 15:23 +0200
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-06-27 16:31 +0000
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-06-27 21:11 +0200
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-06-28 13:41 +0000
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-06-29 03:09 +0200
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 mhx@iae.nl - 2015-06-27 06:42 -0700
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-06-28 13:21 +0100
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-06-26 12:20 +0100
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-07-12 19:43 -0700
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-06-28 14:09 +0000
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-06-28 10:21 -0700
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-06-28 14:26 +0000
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-06-29 03:21 +0200
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-06-30 07:14 +0000
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-07-01 00:33 +0200
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-07-04 13:58 +0000
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-07-05 00:18 +0200
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-05 07:33 +0100
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-05 08:28 +0100
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-07-05 12:22 +0000
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-07-06 16:03 +0000
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-06 18:40 +0100
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-07-06 20:36 +0000
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-07 07:18 +0100
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-07-07 07:17 +0000
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-06-28 19:32 -0700
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-06-28 19:32 -1000
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-06-29 15:06 -0700
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-06-30 07:48 +0000
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 franck.bensusan@gmail.com - 2015-06-30 03:38 -0700
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-06-30 04:44 -0700
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 franck.bensusan@gmail.com - 2015-07-01 02:49 -0700
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-07-01 04:43 -0700
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-07-02 02:16 -0400
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-01 23:24 -0700
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-07-02 00:10 -0700
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-02 01:51 -0700
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-07-02 12:49 +0000
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 "Rod Pemberton" <boo@fasdfrewar.cdm> - 2015-07-02 18:02 -0400
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-07-04 14:31 +0000
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-06-30 01:55 -0700
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-07-01 20:32 -0700
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-07-02 02:40 -0700
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-07-02 22:40 -0700
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 "Rod Pemberton" <boo@fasdfrewar.cdm> - 2015-07-03 04:32 -0400
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-07-03 03:03 -0700
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-07-03 03:16 -0700
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-03 22:06 +0100
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-07-03 22:39 -0700
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-07-04 14:45 +0000
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-07-04 11:39 -0700
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-04 19:55 +0100
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-07-04 20:54 -0700
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-05 07:18 +0100
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-07-04 21:47 -1000
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-07-05 01:49 -0700
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-05 10:30 +0100
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-07-05 03:09 -0700
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-05 16:29 +0100
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-07-05 09:49 -0700
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-05 22:10 +0100
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-05 14:54 -0700
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-07-05 12:41 -1000
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-05 15:47 -0700
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-07-06 00:57 +0200
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-05 16:08 -0700
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-07-06 01:36 +0200
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-05 17:25 -0700
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-07-05 13:15 -1000
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-07-06 02:05 -0700
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-07-05 19:46 -0700
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-07-06 07:57 +0000
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-06 18:53 -0700
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-07-07 07:37 +0000
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-07-08 05:18 +0000
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2015-07-08 07:59 +0100
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-08 12:06 -0700
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-07-08 20:08 -0700
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2015-07-09 08:31 +0100
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-09 14:06 +0100
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-09 14:09 +0100
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-09 13:34 -0700
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2015-07-10 20:27 +0100
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-10 12:46 -0700
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2015-07-10 21:48 +0100
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-07-08 17:02 +0200
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-08 17:48 +0100
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-07-08 20:58 +0200
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-08 20:19 +0100
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-07-08 21:48 +0200
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-09 00:47 +0100
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-07-09 04:56 +0000
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-07-11 14:34 -0700
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2015-07-07 08:09 +0100
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-07-07 16:32 +0200
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 coos <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2015-07-07 16:43 +0200
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-07-07 15:16 +0000
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-07-07 22:14 +0200
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-07-08 02:06 +0000
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-07-07 14:57 +0000
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2015-07-07 22:51 +0100
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-07-07 13:11 -1000
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-07-07 19:34 -0700
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-07-06 20:47 -0700
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-07-06 21:55 -0700
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-07-05 08:53 -1000
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-07-06 01:56 -0700
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 "Rod Pemberton" <boo@fasdfrewar.cdm> - 2015-06-23 18:13 -0400
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-06-24 01:44 -0700
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 "Rod Pemberton" <boo@fasdfrewar.cdm> - 2015-06-24 20:07 -0400
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-06-25 17:05 +0000
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-06-24 02:08 -0700
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-06-24 04:53 -0700
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-06-24 04:57 -0700
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-06-24 05:46 -0700
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-06-24 07:05 -0700
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-06-24 14:40 +0000
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-06-24 10:12 -0700
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-06-24 20:35 +0000
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-06-24 15:01 +0000
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-06-24 08:58 -0700
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-06-24 09:54 -0700
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-06-28 16:40 +0000
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 "Rod Pemberton" <boo@fasdfrewar.cdm> - 2015-06-28 15:10 -0400
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-06-28 23:32 -0700
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-06-28 21:37 -1000
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-06-29 01:38 -0700
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-06-24 08:53 -0700
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 "Rod Pemberton" <boo@fasdfrewar.cdm> - 2015-06-24 20:08 -0400
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-06-23 10:30 +0000
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-06-23 22:58 +0200
Re: The meaning of xt in Forth-94 Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-06-23 23:49 +0200
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-06-19 15:07 +0200
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-06-20 16:09 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-06-22 16:24 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2015-06-15 17:41 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2015-06-15 16:54 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-06-15 22:57 -0400
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-06-13 10:51 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-06-13 12:57 +0100
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-06-13 21:53 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-06-13 22:41 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-06-14 11:42 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-06-14 09:26 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-06-14 23:15 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-06-14 16:39 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-06-14 15:21 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-06-14 23:20 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-06-14 16:48 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-06-14 17:52 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Doug Hoffman <glidedog@gmail.com> - 2015-06-14 21:13 -0400
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-06-14 20:09 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-04-03 10:25 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-04-03 14:43 -0400
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-04-03 20:14 +0100
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work jfong@ms4.hinet.net - 2015-04-03 23:16 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-04-03 20:02 +0100
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-04-03 20:46 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work krishna.myneni@ccreweb.org - 2015-04-04 06:43 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2015-04-04 17:31 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work krishna.myneni@ccreweb.org - 2015-04-04 15:54 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-04-04 21:01 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2015-04-06 04:48 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-04-04 13:57 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-04-05 00:16 -0400
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-04-05 10:11 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-04-05 14:37 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2015-04-06 04:52 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-04-05 21:58 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-04-06 13:56 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-04-06 22:22 +0200
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-04-06 18:09 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-04-07 14:30 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-04-07 15:43 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-04-10 19:55 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-04-11 15:51 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-04-11 16:25 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-04-12 10:22 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2015-04-12 10:48 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2015-04-12 10:53 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2015-04-12 14:18 +0200
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2015-04-12 14:35 +0200
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-04-13 12:36 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-04-13 06:00 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2015-04-13 21:02 +0200
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-04-13 13:32 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-04-12 09:40 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-04-12 13:38 -0400
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2015-04-12 18:55 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-04-13 00:07 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2015-04-13 08:07 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2015-05-12 23:09 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-05-12 20:35 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2015-05-13 10:10 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-05-13 15:58 -0400
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-05-13 13:13 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2015-05-14 11:40 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-05-14 18:48 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-06-12 21:51 -0400
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-04-13 00:13 +0100
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-04-12 20:43 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-04-13 09:53 +0100
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2015-04-14 09:46 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-04-14 10:01 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-04-14 18:24 +0100
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work "Rod Pemberton" <bork@lllljunkqwer.cpm> - 2015-04-14 17:17 -0400
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2015-04-13 18:08 +0300
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work "Rod Pemberton" <bork@lllljunkqwer.cpm> - 2015-04-06 22:07 -0400
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-04-06 16:44 -1000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-04-07 11:09 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-04-07 14:49 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-04-08 01:58 +0100
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-04-20 23:21 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-04-21 02:10 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-04-21 10:41 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-04-21 13:31 +0100
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-04-21 06:00 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-04-21 14:09 +0100
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> - 2015-04-22 10:59 +0200
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-04-22 11:41 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> - 2015-04-22 14:13 +0200
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-04-22 14:06 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-04-22 15:42 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2015-04-22 15:57 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-04-22 16:43 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-04-24 05:35 +0200
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-04-24 11:22 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-04-24 11:18 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-04-25 01:21 +0200
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-04-25 16:49 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2015-05-03 21:07 +0100
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-05-03 23:25 +0100
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work gwj.nexus@gmail.com - 2015-05-05 10:53 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-05-05 19:10 +0100
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Gerry <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2015-05-06 21:41 +0100
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-05-07 11:05 +0100
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-05-08 11:35 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-05-06 14:09 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-05-04 03:08 +0200
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-05-04 09:23 +0100
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-05-04 20:32 +0200
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-05-06 13:26 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-05-06 20:00 +0200
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-05-06 13:24 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-05-08 12:07 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-05-08 18:26 +0100
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-05-09 01:10 +0200
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-05-12 16:13 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-05-13 00:11 +0200
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-05-04 16:58 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work gwj.nexus@gmail.com - 2015-05-05 11:24 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-05-06 13:13 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-04-24 13:11 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-04-25 21:05 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-04-21 14:06 +0100
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-04-22 20:05 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-04-23 05:57 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-04-23 10:50 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-04-24 11:59 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2015-05-12 23:18 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-05-12 20:24 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-04-24 08:56 -1000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-04-24 12:09 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-04-24 22:29 +0100
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2015-06-15 17:54 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Jason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com> - 2015-04-02 09:04 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-04-02 21:04 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2015-04-03 10:48 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Hans Bezemer <the.beez.speaks@gmail.com> - 2015-04-10 17:52 +0200
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2015-04-10 16:13 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-04-11 16:56 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-04-12 09:28 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Jason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com> - 2015-04-03 10:26 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-04-05 21:54 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-04-26 01:20 +0200
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-04-26 15:09 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-04-27 03:13 +0200
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-05-01 14:59 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-05-01 19:38 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-05-01 16:59 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-05-02 15:56 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-05-01 22:45 +0200
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work JennyB <jennybrien@googlemail.com> - 2015-05-02 02:58 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-05-02 11:51 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2015-05-02 12:25 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-05-02 16:45 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-05-02 19:12 +0100
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-05-03 16:23 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-05-03 15:47 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Jan Coombs <Jan-54 <jenfhaomndgfwutc@murmic.plus.com>> - 2015-05-04 10:11 +0100
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-05-04 09:16 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work roman.pavlyuk.0@gmail.com - 2015-05-04 10:15 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2015-06-15 23:35 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Ching-Tang Tseng <ilikeforth@gmail.com> - 2015-07-02 02:31 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-07-02 17:20 +0000
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Ching-Tang Tseng <ilikeforth@gmail.com> - 2015-07-02 15:40 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-07-02 19:55 -0400
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Ching-Tang Tseng <ilikeforth@gmail.com> - 2015-07-02 19:43 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-07-02 23:08 -0400
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Ching-Tang Tseng <ilikeforth@gmail.com> - 2015-07-02 21:56 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-07-03 01:25 -0400
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-07-02 23:00 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-03 22:25 +0100
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Ching-Tang Tseng <ilikeforth@gmail.com> - 2015-07-03 00:50 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Ching-Tang Tseng <ilikeforth@gmail.com> - 2015-07-03 18:21 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-04 13:09 +0100
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Ching-Tang Tseng <ilikeforth@gmail.com> - 2015-07-04 15:01 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-05 08:49 +0100
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-07-05 15:23 +0200
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-05 15:56 +0100
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-07-05 12:21 -0400
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-07-06 01:45 -0700
Re: bug in VFX --- IF does't work rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-07-06 12:47 -0400
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| From | hughaguilar96@gmail.com |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-04-05 21:47 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <9e80cd22-f726-4ced-8425-b319826917e9@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #37875 |
On Thursday, April 2, 2015 at 11:42:55 PM UTC-7, Stephen Pelc wrote:
> On Thu, 2 Apr 2015 19:18:04 -0700 (PDT), hughaguilar96@gmail.com
> wrote:
> >This is not ANS-Forth code --- I don't want to RTFM because I don't want to=
> > become an expert on VFX --- I'm already an expert on ANS-Forth.
>
> You asked a tech-support question about VFX. I answered it pointing
> out that your initial assumption (how IF works) was wrong.
>
> The code illustrates precisely why SYNONYM is defined the way it is
> defined - because it requires carnal knowledge. If you want to know
> how SYNONYM works:
> "So how do you write SYNONYM so that it can make a synonym of an
> immediate word?"
> then do not complain when you are told.
Your assumption about IF was wrong.
I was able to write SYNONYM in ANS-Forth. This requires the novice-package, but the novice-package is all ANS-Forth --- there was no good reason to abandon ANS-Forth as you did (I know what your reason was: vendor lock-in).
I added some extra features. My SYNONYM takes a wid and puts the word in that word-list. Also, I have SYNONYM-FAST that is like SYNONYM but produces faster-executing code --- these words can't be used in interpretive mode however --- they can only by used in compilation mode.
This has only been tested under VFX so far:
: execute, ( -- ) \ runtime: xt --
postpone execute ;
: +loop postpone +loop ; immediate
: ." postpone ." ; immediate
: ; postpone ; ; immediate
: >r postpone >r ; immediate
: abort" postpone abort" ; immediate
: begin postpone begin ; immediate
: do postpone do ; immediate
: does> postpone does> ; immediate
: else postpone else ; immediate
: exit postpone exit ; immediate
: I postpone I ; immediate
: if postpone if ; immediate
: J postpone J ; immediate
: leave postpone leave ; immediate
: literal postpone literal ; immediate
: loop postpone loop ; immediate
: postpone postpone postpone ; immediate
: r> postpone r> ; immediate
: r@ postpone r@ ; immediate
: recurse postpone recurse ; immediate
: repeat postpone repeat ; immediate
: s" postpone s" ; immediate
: then postpone then ; immediate
: unloop postpone unloop ; immediate
: until postpone until ; immediate
: while postpone while ; immediate
: [ postpone [ ; immediate
: ['] postpone ['] ; immediate
: [char] postpone [char] ; immediate
: 2>r postpone 2>r ; immediate
: 2r> postpone 2r> ; immediate
: 2r@ postpone 2r@ ; immediate
: ?do postpone ?do ; immediate
: again postpone again ; immediate
: c" postpone c" ; immediate
: case postpone case ; immediate
: compile, postpone compile, ; immediate
: endcase postpone endcase ; immediate
: endof postpone endof ; immediate
: of postpone of ; immediate
: [compile] postpone [compile] ; immediate
: 2literal postpone 2literal ; immediate
: fliteral postpone fliteral ; immediate
: (local) postpone (local) ; immediate
: locals| postpone locals| ; immediate
: ;code postpone ;code ; immediate
: ahead postpone ahead ; immediate
: cs-pick postpone cs-pick ; immediate
: cs-roll postpone cs-roll ; immediate
: sliteral postpone sliteral ; immediate
: :synonym { xt flg str wid -- }
\ FLG is 1 for immediate and -1 for non-immediate
str wid :name
flg 1 = if xt lit, execute, ;, immediate exit then
flg -1 = if xt compile, ;, exit then
true abort" *** :SYNONYM given an invalid xt ***" ;
: :synonym-fast-check ( -- )
state @ 0= abort" *** a word created by :SYNONYM-FAST can't be used in interpretive mode ***" ;
: :synonym-fast { xt flg str wid -- }
\ FLG is 1 for immediate and -1 for non-immediate
str wid :name
flg 1 = if xt lit, execute, ;, immediate exit then
flg -1 = if postpone :synonym-fast-check
xt lit, postpone compile, ;, immediate exit then
true abort" *** :SYNONYM-FAST given an invalid xt ***" ;
: 'find ( -- xt flg ) \ stream: name
\ FLG is 1 for immediate and -1 for non-immediate
bl word find dup 0= abort" *** 'FIND couldn't find the word ***" ;
: synonym { wid | new -- } \ stream: new-name old-name
\ the new word is compiled into the WID word-list
bl parse <hstr> to new
'find new wid :synonym
new dealloc ;
: synonym-fast { wid | new -- } \ stream: new-name old-name
\ the new word is compiled into the WID word-list
bl parse <hstr> to new
'find new wid :synonym-fast
new dealloc ;
\ :SYNONYM-FAST generates faster executing code than :SYNONYM
\ but the words can't be used in interpretive mode.
\ This may not be necessary with a good optimizing compiler,
\ but I'm not aware of any at this time.
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| From | hughaguilar96@gmail.com |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-06-12 14:41 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <1bf3bfd8-d975-4cdf-95d1-fa5e8b191d5e@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #37844 |
On Thursday, April 2, 2015 at 10:07:52 AM UTC-7, Stephen Pelc wrote:
> On Wed, 1 Apr 2015 13:40:52 -0700 (PDT), hughaguilar96@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
> >So how do you write SYNONYM so that it can make a synonym of an immediate w=
> >ord?
>
> The VFX source code is:
>
> : SynComp, \ xt --
> \ Compile a child of SYNONYM.
> >body @ compile,
> ;
>
> : Synonym \ "<new-name>" "<curdef>" --
> \ *G Create a new definition which redirects to an existing one.
> \ ** Normal dictionary searches for *\i{<new-name>} will return
> \ ** the xt of *\i{<curdef>}.
> create
> hide ' reveal dup , immediate?
> if immediate endif
> ['] SynComp, set-compiler
> $010 latest set-bit \ set header's alias bit
> interp>
> @ execute
> ;
>
> For some words you may have to RTFM.
>
> Stephen
Bernd Payson has frequently quoted Stephen Pelc as saying: "writing portable code is an egoless discipline."
Can Stephen Pelc verify that this quote is his? Or does Stephen Pelc disagree with this quote? Will the real Stephen Pelc please stand up, please stand up...
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| From | stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-06-12 23:20 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <557b6827.160652996@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #39707 |
On Fri, 12 Jun 2015 14:41:53 -0700 (PDT), hughaguilar96@gmail.com wrote: >Bernd Payson has frequently quoted Stephen Pelc as saying: "writing portable code is an egoless discipline." > >Can Stephen Pelc verify that this quote is his? I wrote a paper for EuroForth which may be the source of Bernd's comment. http://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/anton/euroforth/ef09/papers/pelc.pdf Stephen -- Stephen Pelc, stephenXXX@mpeforth.com MicroProcessor Engineering Ltd - More Real, Less Time 133 Hill Lane, Southampton SO15 5AF, England tel: +44 (0)23 8063 1441, fax: +44 (0)23 8033 9691 web: http://www.mpeforth.com - free VFX Forth downloads
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| From | hughaguilar96@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2015-06-12 18:40 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <17a95cc8-60f1-4322-9681-81773244be89@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #39709 |
On Friday, June 12, 2015 at 4:20:27 PM UTC-7, Stephen Pelc wrote: > On Fri, 12 Jun 2015 14:41:53 -0700 (PDT), hughaguilar96@gmail.com > wrote: > > >Bernd Payson has frequently quoted Stephen Pelc as saying: "writing portable code is an egoless discipline." > > > >Can Stephen Pelc verify that this quote is his? > > I wrote a paper for EuroForth which may be the source of Bernd's > comment. > > http://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/anton/euroforth/ef09/papers/pelc.pdf > > Stephen Since you're an expert on portability and even wrote a paper on the subject, can you explain why your SYNONYM wasn't written in ANS-Forth? --- as a member of the Forth-200x standards committee, can you tell of any purpose for a language standard other than portability of code? The reason why I ask, is that I'm writing a paper of my own describing how my disambiguifiers defeat the sabotage in ANS-Forth to allow cross-compilers to be written by common ANS-Forth programmers (not just compiler-vendors) --- SYNONYM and ALIAS are simple examples provided in the paper to show how code that had previously been considered impossible becomes easy. Obviously this paper won't be in EuroForth --- Anton Ertl decides what gets in EuroForth, and he is the culprit who sabotaged FIND in gForth to prevent cross-compilers from being written --- my disambiguifiers work-around his sabotage.
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| From | "Rod Pemberton" <boo@fasdfrewar.cdm> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-06-13 04:36 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <op.xz5t7tc5yfako5@localhost> |
| In reply to | #39710 |
On Fri, 12 Jun 2015 21:40:17 -0400, <hughaguilar96@gmail.com> wrote: > On Friday, June 12, 2015 at 4:20:27 PM UTC-7, Stephen Pelc wrote: >> On Fri, 12 Jun 2015 14:41:53 -0700 (PDT), hughaguilar96@gmail.com >> wrote: >>> Bernd Payson has frequently quoted Stephen Pelc as saying: "writing >>> portable code is an egoless discipline." >>> >> >Can Stephen Pelc verify that this quote is his? >> >> I wrote a paper for EuroForth which may be the source of Bernd's >> comment. >> > Stephen, Hugh set you up to criticize you over ANS-Forth, specifically his perceived problems with it. He must've gotten bored with Ms. Rather. > Since you're an expert on portability and even wrote a paper on the > subject, can you explain why your SYNONYM wasn't written in ANS-Forth? > --- as a member of the Forth-200x standards committee, can you tell of > any purpose for a language standard other than portability of code? Hugh, you're such a troll ... Let your hatred of ANS go. Let it go. Use fig-Forth. Be at peace. > The reason why I ask, is that I'm writing a paper of my own describing > how my disambiguifiers defeat the sabotage in ANS-Forth to allow > cross-compilers to be written by common ANS-Forth programmers (not just > compiler-vendors) --- SYNONYM and ALIAS are simple examples provided in > the paper to show how code that had previously been considered > impossible becomes easy. What purpose do your "disambiguifiers" serve other than to "fix" gForth? Do they have any use anywhere else? I.e., my initial impression is that they'll be very specific code used for a very specific situation. You haven't gotten anywhere on your Forth you've been talking about for a decade and now you've suddenly got time for "professional" level paper? Really, Hugh? Really!? ... Do you expect *anyone* here to read it? Who? Why? Raise your hand if you have an interest in Hugh's "disambiguifiers"! Personally, I think you'd do better with an in-depth paper on using CREATE .. DOES> effectively or cross-compiling or boot-strapping a Forth than you would with this ... Of course, something like this is fine for a paper, if you've entered academia and need to publish something. > disambiguifiers s/disambiguifiers/"is-not-an-actual-word-Hugh..." Rod Pemberton -- It's time to put an end to gun violence! Use a hammer ...
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| From | hughaguilar96@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2015-06-13 23:12 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <914501ad-55b8-424b-8741-b1d3c387863c@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #39717 |
On Saturday, June 13, 2015 at 1:36:42 AM UTC-7, Rod Pemberton wrote: > Raise your hand if you have an interest in Hugh's "disambiguifiers"! > Personally, I think you'd do better with an in-depth paper on using > CREATE .. DOES> effectively... Cross-compilers are, pretty much, the only way to make money in Forth. That has been my experience anyway. Micro-controllers are really where it is at. Your interest in Forth is to prove that C is the "god language," and that Forth is a toy interpreter similar to Lua or Python except without any features --- I don't care if you and your ilk raise your hands or not --- your importance in the Forth world is below zero.
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| From | "Rod Pemberton" <boo@fasdfrewar.cdm> |
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| Date | 2015-06-14 09:53 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <op.xz73jmddyfako5@localhost> |
| In reply to | #39732 |
On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 02:12:25 -0400, <hughaguilar96@gmail.com> wrote: > On Saturday, June 13, 2015 at 1:36:42 AM UTC-7, Rod Pemberton wrote: >> Raise your hand if you have an interest in Hugh's "disambiguifiers"! >> Personally, I think you'd do better with an in-depth paper on using >> CREATE .. DOES> effectively... > > Cross-compilers are, pretty much, the only way to make money in Forth. > That has been my experience anyway. You're in this for money, right? So ... Where is yours, again? > Micro-controllers are really where it is at. By "it" you did mean money, yes? Or, by "at" did you mean that micro-controllers are what you want to work with? > Your interest in Forth is to prove that C is the "god language," My interest in Forth was and is just the personal accomplishment from implementing it or simply the act of doing so. Nothing more. Since I already know C is the "god language", why would I need to prove that? I don't see why you keep bringing this up except to incite others to attack. > that Forth is a toy interpreter similar to Lua or Python except > without any features It may be "toy" or it may not be. It seems to be decent as compared to other ITC interpreted Forths which are mostly from the fig-Forth era. It clearly won't outclass a compiled Forth, even one without optimization. It clearly isn't as developed as other Forths in terms of both supported words and utilities, but many fig-Forths and other free Forths weren't all that developed either. Although I understood the DTC, ITC, TTC, and STC concepts from decades ago, I never implemented any of them before. So, I did learn much about the ITC style of interpreter which is useful for other language projects and interpreted applications. > I don't care if you and your ilk raise your hands or not YAHOO! I've been re-ranked and promoted to: "ilk". I don't recall your last classification for me, but, IIRC, it was below ilk ... > your importance in the Forth world is below zero. Are you claiming your importance to the Forth world isn't below zero also? ... Is that your problem? I.e., you want to be as important or as respected as Ms. Rather, Anton Ertl, or Stephen Pelc? So, you attack them to prove your worth? ... Weird. Seriously, I honestly don't see the respect here or the following required for that. Have you tried a Forth forum where no one knows of you? Here, I'll help you with a plan of attack: Step 1) Help the NEWBs for a year or two to build up your cachet. Step 2) Pronounce ANS to be dead. The NEWBs won't know any better. Step 3) Declare your Forth to be the way of the future and provide some straw man arguments or other logical fallacies to prove it to them. They simply can't tell the difference. You're great at this form of misdirection. Like politics, an outrageous lie is the power backing all great leaders. Step 4) Convince your minions to go forth and spread the new prophecy. Step 5) Once the outside world partakes, claim your vindication. Wait. Did I mix that up? I'm not entirely sure (feigned), but those might just be the directions for building a cult or resurrecting Nazism ... Rod Pemberton -- It's time to put an end to gun violence! Use a hammer ...
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| From | Michael Barry <barrym95838@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2015-06-14 18:38 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <f16adfd0-6b83-41a1-8c04-f10f9775b631@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #39735 |
On Sunday, June 14, 2015 at 6:53:21 AM UTC-7, Rod Pemberton wrote: > [...] ... Have you tried a Forth forum > where no one knows of you? Here, I'll help you with a plan > of attack: > > Step 1) Help the NEWBs for a year or two to build up your cachet. > Step 2) Pronounce ANS to be dead. The NEWBs won't know any better. > Step 3) Declare your Forth to be the way of the future and provide > some straw man arguments or other logical fallacies to prove it to > them. They simply can't tell the difference. You're great at this > form of misdirection. Like politics, an outrageous lie is the power > backing all great leaders. > Step 4) Convince your minions to go forth and spread the new prophecy. > Step 5) Once the outside world partakes, claim your vindication. > > Wait. Did I mix that up? > > I'm not entirely sure (feigned), but those might just be the > directions for building a cult or resurrecting Nazism ... > > I have been in private contact with Hugh regarding his project, and it looks really promising (at least through a n00b's eyes). I am not at liberty to discuss it, but I thought that I would share just that small tidbit. I don't know why he wastes so much time and energy insulting and arguing with others, though. IMHO, he has a rare talent, and could use that time and energy more constructively. My feeble attempts to get him to modify his behavior were unsuccessful, so I have chosen to try to ignore his flaws, because he has so much else to offer. I do not intend to join any cults led by him or anyone else, but I _will_ continue to read anything he posts, keep what I consider to be valuable, and discard the rest. My "keep" pile is still taller than my "discard" pile, at least for Hugh. Mike B.
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| From | "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> |
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| Date | 2015-06-15 21:03 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <mlnav6$qqq$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #39757 |
on 15/06/2015 02:38:49, Michael Barry wrote: > On Sunday, June 14, 2015 at 6:53:21 AM UTC-7, Rod Pemberton wrote: >> [...] ... Have you tried a Forth forum >> where no one knows of you? Here, I'll help you with a plan >> of attack: >> >> Step 1) Help the NEWBs for a year or two to build up your cachet. >> Step 2) Pronounce ANS to be dead. The NEWBs won't know any better. >> Step 3) Declare your Forth to be the way of the future and provide >> some straw man arguments or other logical fallacies to prove it to >> them. They simply can't tell the difference. You're great at this >> form of misdirection. Like politics, an outrageous lie is the power >> backing all great leaders. >> Step 4) Convince your minions to go forth and spread the new prophecy. >> Step 5) Once the outside world partakes, claim your vindication. >> >> Wait. Did I mix that up? >> >> I'm not entirely sure (feigned), but those might just be the >> directions for building a cult or resurrecting Nazism ... >> >> > > I have been in private contact with Hugh regarding his project, > and it looks really promising (at least through a n00b's eyes). > I am not at liberty to discuss it, but I thought that I would > share just that small tidbit. Share what exactly? That Hugh has a cunning plan? > > I don't know why he wastes so much time and energy insulting and > arguing with others, though. IMHO, he has a rare talent, and I've seen talent and genius before, and believe me, Hugh is on the wrong side of the bell curve. > could use that time and energy more constructively. My feeble > attempts to get him to modify his behavior were unsuccessful, > so I have chosen to try to ignore his flaws, because he has so > much else to offer. Be precise and name one thing. > I do not intend to join any cults led by Cults? What on earth are you talking about? > him or anyone else, but I _will_ continue to read anything he > posts, keep what I consider to be valuable, and discard the > rest. My "keep" pile is still taller than my "discard" pile, > at least for Hugh. > > Mike B. > If you could increase the sizes of you piles by getting Hugh to email you directly rather than him posting here, that would be great.
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| From | Michael Barry <barrym95838@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2015-06-15 19:38 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ac429089-4583-4068-971c-d3db2cfa5258@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #39765 |
On Monday, June 15, 2015 at 1:03:02 PM UTC-7, Alex McDonald wrote: > on 15/06/2015 02:38:49, Michael Barry wrote: > > ... > > I have been in private contact with Hugh regarding his project, > > and it looks really promising (at least through a n00b's eyes). > > I am not at liberty to discuss it, but I thought that I would > > share just that small tidbit. > > Share what exactly? That Hugh has a cunning plan? > Just exactly what I said; nothing more, nothing less. > > > > I don't know why he wastes so much time and energy insulting and > > arguing with others, though. IMHO, he has a rare talent, and > > I've seen talent and genius before, and believe me, Hugh is on the wrong > side of the bell curve. > Thanks for sharing that. Your opinion has been duly noted. > > could use that time and energy more constructively. My feeble > > attempts to get him to modify his behavior were unsuccessful, > > so I have chosen to try to ignore his flaws, because he has so > > much else to offer. > > Be precise and name one thing. > Please forgive me for declining your invitation. It's been a long day, and I learned my lesson earlier (in a different thread) that I am ill-equipped for a proper debate with you, even on one of my better days. I regretfully surrender this point, uncontested. > > I do not intend to join any cults led by > > Cults? What on earth are you talking about? > That was Rod's deal. I was replying to him, against my better judgment. I have failed yet again to mind my own business and keep my pie-hole shut. In friendlier surroundings this wouldn't be such a liability, but here ... enough said. > > him or anyone else, but I _will_ continue to read anything he > > posts, keep what I consider to be valuable, and discard the > > rest. My "keep" pile is still taller than my "discard" pile, > > at least for Hugh. > > > > If you could increase the sizes of you piles by getting Hugh to email you > directly rather than him posting here, that would be great. I fear that you are asking something of me that is beyond my capabilities. I must decline once again, with apologies. Respectfully yours, Mike B.
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| From | rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-06-15 22:54 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mlo33g$ftb$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #39769 |
On 6/15/2015 10:38 PM, Michael Barry wrote: > On Monday, June 15, 2015 at 1:03:02 PM UTC-7, Alex McDonald wrote: >> on 15/06/2015 02:38:49, Michael Barry wrote: >>> ... >>> I have been in private contact with Hugh regarding his project, >>> and it looks really promising (at least through a n00b's eyes). >>> I am not at liberty to discuss it, but I thought that I would >>> share just that small tidbit. >> >> Share what exactly? That Hugh has a cunning plan? >> > > Just exactly what I said; nothing more, nothing less. > >>> >>> I don't know why he wastes so much time and energy insulting and >>> arguing with others, though. IMHO, he has a rare talent, and >> >> I've seen talent and genius before, and believe me, Hugh is on the wrong >> side of the bell curve. >> > > Thanks for sharing that. Your opinion has been duly noted. > >>> could use that time and energy more constructively. My feeble >>> attempts to get him to modify his behavior were unsuccessful, >>> so I have chosen to try to ignore his flaws, because he has so >>> much else to offer. >> >> Be precise and name one thing. >> > > Please forgive me for declining your invitation. It's been a > long day, and I learned my lesson earlier (in a different > thread) that I am ill-equipped for a proper debate with you, > even on one of my better days. I regretfully surrender this > point, uncontested. > >>> I do not intend to join any cults led by >> >> Cults? What on earth are you talking about? >> > > That was Rod's deal. I was replying to him, against my better > judgment. I have failed yet again to mind my own business > and keep my pie-hole shut. In friendlier surroundings this > wouldn't be such a liability, but here ... enough said. Rod is not entirely a bad person, but he is not anyone to worry about. In fact, no one here is anyone to worry about. We will all have our own opinions about Hugh and everything else. If you don't like what some say here, then it is best to not read it. This group as much as any, is full of people who will not be much swayed by anything you write. >>> him or anyone else, but I _will_ continue to read anything he >>> posts, keep what I consider to be valuable, and discard the >>> rest. My "keep" pile is still taller than my "discard" pile, >>> at least for Hugh. >>> >> >> If you could increase the sizes of you piles by getting Hugh to email you >> directly rather than him posting here, that would be great. > > I fear that you are asking something of me that is beyond my > capabilities. I must decline once again, with apologies. I don't mind reading some of Hugh's posts. But far too often he goes off the deep end and has to relate Forth to the mind controlling Ms Rather or any of the many flunkies running the Forth world through the ANS committee. He really can seem like someone off his meds. -- Rick
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| From | "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> |
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| Date | 2015-06-16 10:01 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <mlooja$hku$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #39769 |
on 16/06/2015 03:38:44, Michael Barry wrote: > On Monday, June 15, 2015 at 1:03:02 PM UTC-7, Alex McDonald wrote: >> on 15/06/2015 02:38:49, Michael Barry wrote: >> > ... >> > I have been in private contact with Hugh regarding his project, >> > and it looks really promising (at least through a n00b's eyes). >> > I am not at liberty to discuss it, but I thought that I would >> > share just that small tidbit. >> >> Share what exactly? That Hugh has a cunning plan? >> > > Just exactly what I said; nothing more, nothing less. A man is driving down the road and his car breaks down near a monastery. He goes to the monastery, knocks on the door, and says, "My car broke down. Do you think I could stay the night?" The monks graciously accept him, feed him dinner, even fix his car. As the man tries to fall asleep, he hears a strange sound. A sound unlike anything he's ever heard before. The Sirens that nearly seduced Odysseus into crashing his ship comes to his mind. He doesn't sleep that night. He tosses and turns trying to figure out what could possibly be making such a seductive sound. The next morning, he asks the monks what the sound was, but they say, "We can't tell you. You're not a monk." Distraught, the man is forced to leave. Years later, after never being able to forget that sound, the man goes back to the monastery and pleads for the answer again. The monks reply, "We can't tell you. You're not a monk." The man says, "If the only way I can find out what is making that beautiful sound is to become a monk, then please, make me a monk." The monks reply, "You must travel the earth and tell us how many blades of grass there are and the exact number of grains of sand. When you find these answers, you will have become a monk." The man sets about his task. After years of searching he returns as a gray-haired old man and knocks on the door of the monastery. A monk answers. He is taken before a gathering of all the monks. "In my quest to find what makes that beautiful sound, I traveled the earth and have found what you asked for: By design, the world is in a state of perpetual change. Only God knows what you ask. All a man can know is himself, and only then if he is honest and reflective and willing to strip away self deception." The monks reply, "Congratulations. You have become a monk. We shall now show you the way to the mystery of the sacred sound." The monks lead the man to a wooden door, where the head monk says, "The sound is beyond that door." The monks give him the key, and he opens the door. Behind the wooden door is another door made of stone. The man is given the key to the stone door and he opens it, only to find a door made of ruby. And so it went that he needed keys to doors of emerald, pearl and diamond. Finally, they come to a door made of solid gold. The sound has become very clear and definite. The monks say, "This is the last key to the last door." The man is apprehensive; his life's wish is behind that door! With trembling hands, he unlocks the door, turns the knob, and slowly pushes the door open. Falling to his knees, he is utterly amazed to discover the source of that haunting and seductive sound... But, of course, I can't tell you what it is because you're not a monk. > >> > >> > I don't know why he wastes so much time and energy insulting and >> > arguing with others, though. IMHO, he has a rare talent, and >> >> I've seen talent and genius before, and believe me, Hugh is on the wrong >> side of the bell curve. >> > > Thanks for sharing that. Your opinion has been duly noted. > >> > could use that time and energy more constructively. My feeble >> > attempts to get him to modify his behavior were unsuccessful, >> > so I have chosen to try to ignore his flaws, because he has so >> > much else to offer. >> >> Be precise and name one thing. >> > > Please forgive me for declining your invitation. It's been a > long day, and I learned my lesson earlier (in a different > thread) that I am ill-equipped for a proper debate with you, > even on one of my better days. I regretfully surrender this > point, uncontested. Oh for goodness' sakes. If you have a point, make it. If you don't, stop telling me you have a point and then not making it when asked. > >> > I do not intend to join any cults led by >> >> Cults? What on earth are you talking about? >> > > That was Rod's deal. I was replying to him, against my better > judgment. I have failed yet again to mind my own business > and keep my pie-hole shut. In friendlier surroundings this > wouldn't be such a liability, but here ... enough said. > >> > him or anyone else, but I _will_ continue to read anything he >> > posts, keep what I consider to be valuable, and discard the >> > rest. My "keep" pile is still taller than my "discard" pile, >> > at least for Hugh. >> > >> >> If you could increase the sizes of you piles by getting Hugh to email you >> directly rather than him posting here, that would be great. > > I fear that you are asking something of me that is beyond my > capabilities. I must decline once again, with apologies. > > Respectfully yours, Your insincerity is illuminated by those two words. > > Mike B. >
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| From | Michael Barry <barrym95838@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2015-06-16 18:25 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <8d9c838f-b60b-4b5c-a86c-23f0c2da73c5@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #39783 |
On Tuesday, June 16, 2015 at 2:01:45 AM UTC-7, Alex McDonald wrote: > on 16/06/2015 03:38:44, Michael Barry wrote: > > ... > > Just exactly what I said; nothing more, nothing less. > > > > A man is driving down the road and his car breaks down near a monastery. > ... [moderately funny joke snipped] ... > But, of course, I can't tell you what it is because you're not a monk. > > > ... > > I regretfully surrender this point, uncontested. > > > > Oh for goodness' sakes. If you have a point, make it. If you don't, > stop telling me you have a point and then not making it when asked. > I was my faulty assumption that I was having a conversation with Rod, not you. I now realize how silly that assumption was, and I will redouble my efforts to think things through a bit better next time. > > ... > > Respectfully yours, > > > > Your insincerity is illuminated by those two words. > Your statement is completely incorrect. You have easily earned my respect in the short time I've been here. You haven't yet earned my admiration, but I promise not to be deeply disappointed if it is discovered that either (or both) are of little value to you. Cheers, Mike B.
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| From | "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> |
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| Date | 2015-06-17 10:11 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <mlrdho$o40$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #39794 |
on 17/06/2015 02:25:52, Michael Barry wrote: > On Tuesday, June 16, 2015 at 2:01:45 AM UTC-7, Alex McDonald wrote: >> >> Oh for goodness' sakes. If you have a point, make it. If you don't, >> stop telling me you have a point and then not making it when asked. >> > > I was my faulty assumption that I was having a conversation with Rod, > not you. I now realize how silly that assumption was, and I will > redouble my efforts to think things through a bit better next time. It's a common mistake to think that it is possible to have an individual conversation on Usenet (or any broadcast message medium). > >> > ... >> > Respectfully yours, >> > > >> >> Your insincerity is illuminated by those two words. >> > > Your statement is completely incorrect. You have easily earned my > respect in the short time I've been here. You haven't yet earned > my admiration, but I promise not to be deeply disappointed if it > is discovered that either (or both) are of little value to you. I value clarity and concinnity but I don't see the need to praise it here. After all this is not the drawing room after dinner. > > Cheers, > Which is much better. > Mike B. > >
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| From | rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-06-15 22:49 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mlo2pl$ftb$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #39757 |
On 6/14/2015 9:38 PM, Michael Barry wrote: > On Sunday, June 14, 2015 at 6:53:21 AM UTC-7, Rod Pemberton wrote: >> [...] ... Have you tried a Forth forum >> where no one knows of you? Here, I'll help you with a plan >> of attack: >> >> Step 1) Help the NEWBs for a year or two to build up your cachet. >> Step 2) Pronounce ANS to be dead. The NEWBs won't know any better. >> Step 3) Declare your Forth to be the way of the future and provide >> some straw man arguments or other logical fallacies to prove it to >> them. They simply can't tell the difference. You're great at this >> form of misdirection. Like politics, an outrageous lie is the power >> backing all great leaders. >> Step 4) Convince your minions to go forth and spread the new prophecy. >> Step 5) Once the outside world partakes, claim your vindication. >> >> Wait. Did I mix that up? >> >> I'm not entirely sure (feigned), but those might just be the >> directions for building a cult or resurrecting Nazism ... >> >> > > I have been in private contact with Hugh regarding his project, > and it looks really promising (at least through a n00b's eyes). > I am not at liberty to discuss it, but I thought that I would > share just that small tidbit. > > I don't know why he wastes so much time and energy insulting and > arguing with others, though. IMHO, he has a rare talent, and > could use that time and energy more constructively. My feeble > attempts to get him to modify his behavior were unsuccessful, > so I have chosen to try to ignore his flaws, because he has so > much else to offer. I do not intend to join any cults led by > him or anyone else, but I _will_ continue to read anything he > posts, keep what I consider to be valuable, and discard the > rest. My "keep" pile is still taller than my "discard" pile, > at least for Hugh. I don't know that many here would disagree with what you wrote. Hugh is obviously talented. But he is borderline... well, something. He spends far too much energy dissing people and is downright obsessed with Ms. Rather. I think that some of his talent comes from being obsessed with getting it "right" in his own mind which is also one of his problems. While he is clearly intelligent, his obsessiveness pushes him to deal with non-issues that others can easily work around. At least that is my take on him from reading the things he posts here. It scares me a little because I think I am not entirely unlike that myself, just not nearly as bad. -- Rick
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| From | hughaguilar96@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2015-06-15 21:56 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <cc566fa0-f08e-4859-acb6-bf50559960ab@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #39757 |
On Sunday, June 14, 2015 at 6:38:47 PM UTC-7, Michael Barry wrote: > I don't know why he wastes so much time and energy insulting and > arguing with others, though. Anton Ertl is attacking the Forth community by demanding that they stop using FIND. He doesn't have the authority to do this. He is just bullying people with the pseudo-authority of being the Forth-200x chair-person, which is an appointed position. Only FIND is sabotaged in ANS-Forth, but POSTPONE is not sabotaged (it is illegal to FIND words like IF etc., but it is legal to POSTPONE these words). My disambiguifiers work-around the sabotage by putting a POSTPONE of each word in an immediate function. This is legal because POSTPONE wasn't sabotaged to special-case these words. FIND was sabotaged to special-case these words, but it doesn't notice that it has a taboo word because the taboo word is hidden inside of the word that it is finding. Stephen Pelc is quietly allowing Anton Ertl to make the preposterous statement that it is both legal and worthwhile for ANS-Forth to have dozens of taboo words that FIND or COMPILE, special-case, although this is a clear betrayal of Charles Moore's idea that Forth should not have syntax. Stephen Pelc could put my disambiguifiers in VFX (among other things, he could get rid of that goofy VFX-specific SYNONYM and replace it with ANS-Forth code). Stephen Pelc won't stand up to Anton Ertl though, because Leon Wagner would kick him off the Forth-200x committee --- and MPE won't get any more lucrative "joint projects" with Forth Inc.. Michael: you are an auto-mechanic. Imagine that Anton Ertl showed up at your shop and told you that you can't use a torque-wrench anymore. He explains that he is the chair-person of the Mechanic-200x committee, and he decides what is standard and what is non-standard. If you continue to use a torque-wrench, you will be non-standard and you won't be allowed to call yourself a mechanic anymore. You point out that torque-wrenches have been standard for decades. Also, Stephen Pelc in a shop across the street uses a torque-wrench. Anton Ertl explains that Stephen Pelc is a member of the Mechanic-200x committee, so he is allowed to use a torque-wrench, but yet the Mechanic-200x committee has voted that torque-wrenches are illegal for plebian mechanics such as yourself. At this time, enthusiastic supporters of Mechanic-200x get on the internet and say that a torque-wrench is not necessary; they do mechanical work all the time (simple stuff like replacing brake-pads, replacing a water-pump, etc.) without a torque-wrench. None of them have ever installed the engine-head, but they speculate that this is easy to do using ordinary wrenches, and that this must be how Stephen Pelc does it. Also at this time, a mechanic named Hugh gets on the internet and tells mechanics to continue to use torque-wrenches, but to hide them under "disambiguifiers" so Anton Ertl and his minions can't find them when they do their frequent inspections. He suggests doing your work replacing the engine-head late at night using the torque-wrench when nobody is watching and then claim later that you did it with an ordinary wrench. After this, Alex McDonald flames Hugh relentlessly on the internet, saying that he has a "serious misunderstanding of how wrenches work" and that he is a non-standard mechanic (effectively, not a mechanic at all). Rod Pemberton encourages Hugh to go back to the FIG-Mechanic standard, which was used in the days of the Model-T when the torque-wrench was still considered standard. This is pretty much what is happening with Forth-200x --- just replace "torque-wrench" with FIND and replace "remove and reinstall the engine-head" with "write a cross-compiler" --- there you have it!
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| From | Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-06-16 00:11 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <823f6e68-7e9a-474d-8d9f-85961a51eca5@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #39774 |
The very idea that FIND can *find* some words, and not *find* others is preposterous.
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| From | anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) |
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| Date | 2015-06-16 07:21 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <2015Jun16.092109@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> |
| In reply to | #39778 |
Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> writes:
>The very idea that FIND can *find* some words, and not *find* others
>is preposterous.
I find the search order quite useful, and :NONAME, too.
- anton
--
M. Anton Ertl http://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/anton/home.html
comp.lang.forth FAQs: http://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/forth/faq/toc.html
New standard: http://www.forth200x.org/forth200x.html
EuroForth 2015: http://www.mpeforth.com/euroforth2015/euroforth2015.htm
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| From | hughaguilar96@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2015-06-16 19:45 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <c08d2b8a-4ed2-4763-afb4-4dcbb8aaf1ad@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #39779 |
On Tuesday, June 16, 2015 at 12:21:58 AM UTC-7, Anton Ertl wrote: > Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> writes: > >The very idea that FIND can *find* some words, and not *find* others > >is preposterous. > > I find the search order quite useful, and :NONAME, too. What does this have to do with FIND aborting on IF and dozens of other words? I find strawberry ice-cream quite tasty, and rocky road too --- but that doesn't mean that gForth isn't crippled, and that the ANS-Forth standard wasn't designed to make such cripple-ware legal.
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| From | anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) |
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| Date | 2015-06-17 10:34 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <2015Jun17.123449@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> |
| In reply to | #39796 |
hughaguilar96@gmail.com writes:
>On Tuesday, June 16, 2015 at 12:21:58 AM UTC-7, Anton Ertl wrote:
>> Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> writes:
>> >The very idea that FIND can *find* some words, and not *find* others
>> >is preposterous.
>>
>> I find the search order quite useful, and :NONAME, too.
>
>What does this have to do with FIND aborting on IF and dozens of other words?
Nothing. It has to do with the idea that Mark Wills finds
preposterous.
As for FIND aborting on IF, I don't know a Forth system that does
this.
- anton
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