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forth cgi website

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First post	2014-10-14 00:22 -0700
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  forth cgi website gavino_himself <visploveslisp@gmail.com> - 2014-10-14 00:22 -0700
    Re: forth cgi website "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-10-13 22:18 -1000
    Re: forth cgi website Just Ian <superian@gmail.com> - 2014-10-14 07:11 -0700
      Re: forth cgi website Jason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com> - 2014-10-14 09:32 -0700
      Re: forth cgi website Jason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com> - 2014-10-14 09:36 -0700
        Re: forth cgi website stephenXXX@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2014-10-14 18:20 +0000
          Re: forth cgi website Jason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com> - 2014-10-14 11:55 -0700
    Re: forth cgi website "Rod Pemberton" <buzzoff@nonamewhichexists.cmm> - 2014-10-16 17:34 -0400
      Re: forth cgi website gavino_himself <visploveslisp@gmail.com> - 2014-10-21 15:43 -0700
        Re: forth cgi website Jason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com> - 2014-10-21 16:05 -0700
          Re: forth cgi website the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2014-11-07 22:03 -0800
        Re: forth cgi website Spam@ControlQ.com - 2014-10-23 11:03 -0400
          Re: forth cgi website the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2014-11-07 22:01 -0800
            Re: forth cgi website the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2014-11-07 22:08 -0800
              Re: forth cgi website the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2014-11-07 22:17 -0800

#33882 — forth cgi website

From	gavino_himself <visploveslisp@gmail.com>
Date	2014-10-14 00:22 -0700
Subject	forth cgi website
Message-ID	<a26cf543-dff9-428d-8ea3-0ef20d817cb1@googlegroups.com>

anyone have any web library for forth?

something to do basic cgi?

let me build a simple blog or say job posting site?

just curious

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#33886

From	"Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com>
Date	2014-10-13 22:18 -1000
Message-ID	<4oOdnaFlPdH3QaHJnZ2dnUU7-KudnZ2d@supernews.com>
In reply to	#33882

On 10/13/14 9:22 PM, gavino_himself wrote:
> anyone have any web library for forth?
>
> something to do basic cgi?
>
> let me build a simple blog or say job posting site?
>
> just curious
>

You need to learn basic Forth programming first.

Cheers,
Elizabeth

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http://www.forth.com

"Forth-based products and Services for real-time
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#33889

From	Just Ian <superian@gmail.com>
Date	2014-10-14 07:11 -0700
Message-ID	<38dd6ee0-42eb-47ad-87fd-71cfb2481f01@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#33882

gavino_himself asked:

> anyone have any web library for forth?
 
> something to do basic cgi?

forth-script - It's old and, as written, expects you to be running a Windows-based web server (and probably a specific one). The source code is some versions behind the binary and looks incomplete.

forth-script.sourceforge.net

webserver - more recent, written in SwiftForth.

www.logix-controls.com/SwiftForth/default.asp?dirpath=/WebServer

The one I started looking for, but haven't yet found, was hosted on a Forth user group site. 

What Elizabeth says is right.

  Ian

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#33893

From	Jason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com>
Date	2014-10-14 09:32 -0700
Message-ID	<25d66054-08ea-4786-b2f1-66df043d2b4c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#33889

Then there is this

http://gvbailey.com/www/athena.htm

"Presently, ATHENA is supporting a small set of OEM's who use our native FORTH systems and native TCP/IP package."

There may be others.  I am curious.  I'm putting these into my notes.

Jason

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#33894

From	Jason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com>
Date	2014-10-14 09:36 -0700
Message-ID	<9b412bdf-f6b3-4c8f-9505-2a94cbff1cc5@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#33889

There may also be some other systems, more centered on industrial control, which use some subset of internet related protocols.  I am not knowledgeable of such things, however.

Jason

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#33896

From	stephenXXX@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc)
Date	2014-10-14 18:20 +0000
Message-ID	<543d694c.986921293@news.demon.co.uk>
In reply to	#33894

On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 09:36:03 -0700 (PDT), Jason Damisch
<jasondamisch@yahoo.com> wrote:

>There may also be some other systems, more centered on industrial control,
>which use some subset of internet related protocols.  I am not knowledgeable
>of such things, however.

http://www.mpeforth.com/powernet.htm

Stephen

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#33897

From	Jason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com>
Date	2014-10-14 11:55 -0700
Message-ID	<20fdadbf-4b00-4a0c-bc13-5fbcaa547ed8@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#33896

On Tuesday, October 14, 2014 11:20:42 AM UTC-7, Stephen Pelc wrote:

> http://www.mpeforth.com/powernet.htm

Thank you Stephen.  If others will also contribute links to this thread regarding the topic, I will compile them for my notes.  I remain fascinated by using Forth for internet related work.

Jason

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#33957

From	"Rod Pemberton" <buzzoff@nonamewhichexists.cmm>
Date	2014-10-16 17:34 -0400
Message-ID	<op.xnud71k0mk81un@localhost>
In reply to	#33882

On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 03:22:46 -0400, gavino_himself  
<visploveslisp@gmail.com> wrote:

> anyone have any web library for forth?
>
> something to do basic cgi?
>
> let me build a simple blog or say job posting site?
>
> just curious
>

The answers to your questions are "No."  Well, they are that
way at least 97% of the time.  So far, you've found the other
3% to be useless, or utterly irritating.  How many _years_ does
it take you to form a valid conclusion about the usefulness of
Forth to you?  I.e., "is" or "isn't".  I think you're going on
eight years now.

Rod Pemberton

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#34075

From	gavino_himself <visploveslisp@gmail.com>
Date	2014-10-21 15:43 -0700
Message-ID	<a7f912dd-130e-4902-870f-e5c7a7e8f079@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#33957

On Thursday, October 16, 2014 2:33:00 PM UTC-7, Rod Pemberton wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 03:22:46 -0400, gavino_himself  
> 
> <visploveslisp@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> > anyone have any web library for forth?
> 
> >
> 
> > something to do basic cgi?
> 
> >
> 
> > let me build a simple blog or say job posting site?
> 
> >
> 
> > just curious
> 
> >
> 
> 
> 
> The answers to your questions are "No."  Well, they are that
> 
> way at least 97% of the time.  So far, you've found the other
> 
> 3% to be useless, or utterly irritating.  How many _years_ does
> 
> it take you to form a valid conclusion about the usefulness of
> 
> Forth to you?  I.e., "is" or "isn't".  I think you're going on
> 
> eight years now.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Rod Pemberton

so do you have any scgi or other for web library? or are you just talking shit?

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#34076

From	Jason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com>
Date	2014-10-21 16:05 -0700
Message-ID	<7d1fa362-b18e-4316-a5d4-4ea62cafe523@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#34075

On Tuesday, October 21, 2014 3:43:01 PM UTC-7, gavino_himself wrote:

> ...

Well, there have been a few threads with links concerning internet related things with Forth.  To answer your question briefly would not be simple or intuitive.  I can only say at this moment that in Forth one tends to write their own and not to produce libraries.  So, there are not extensive libraries like there are for other languages.  There are interfaces to various systems.  You could write to a lower level library written in C in Forth and learn about web stuff that way. 

Jason

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#34350

From	the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com>
Date	2014-11-07 22:03 -0800
Message-ID	<e51fe560-af97-4ba7-ab6c-b4d02e387a95@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#34076

On Tuesday, October 21, 2014 4:05:59 PM UTC-7, Jason Damisch wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 21, 2014 3:43:01 PM UTC-7, gavino_himself wrote:
> 
> > ...
> 
> Well, there have been a few threads with links concerning internet related things with Forth.  To answer your question briefly would not be simple or intuitive.  I can only say at this moment that in Forth one tends to write their own and not to produce libraries.  So, there are not extensive libraries like there are for other languages.  There are interfaces to various systems.  You could write to a lower level library written in C in Forth and learn about web stuff that way. 
> 
> Jason

How would I get forth to accept web request from network?

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#34113

From	Spam@ControlQ.com
Date	2014-10-23 11:03 -0400
Message-ID	<alpine.BSF.2.00.1410231100560.27496@yoko.controlq.com>
In reply to	#34075

On Tue, 21 Oct 2014, gavino_himself wrote:
[...]
>
> so do you have any scgi or other for web library? or are you just talking shit?
>

Gavino will likely go blissfully through life without ever realizing the 
full irony of this query.

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#34349

From	the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com>
Date	2014-11-07 22:01 -0800
Message-ID	<e305822c-c4b6-437c-b2bc-4297a380c3b3@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#34113

On Thursday, October 23, 2014 8:03:13 AM UTC-7, Sp...@controlq.com wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Oct 2014, gavino_himself wrote:
> [...]
> >
> > so do you have any scgi or other for web library? or are you just talking shit?
> >
> 
> Gavino will likely go blissfully through life without ever realizing the 
> full irony of this query.

explain

scgi is simple cgi, something like fastcgi

where irony?

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#34351

From	the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com>
Date	2014-11-07 22:08 -0800
Message-ID	<7a9fd256-8106-41d7-b820-daa37d2be0dd@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#34349

On Friday, November 7, 2014 10:01:54 PM UTC-8, the_gavino_himself wrote:
> On Thursday, October 23, 2014 8:03:13 AM UTC-7, Sp...@controlq.com wrote:
> > On Tue, 21 Oct 2014, gavino_himself wrote:
> > [...]
> > >
> > > so do you have any scgi or other for web library? or are you just talking shit?
> > >
> > 
> > Gavino will likely go blissfully through life without ever realizing the 
> > full irony of this query.
> 
> explain
> 
> scgi is simple cgi, something like fastcgi
> 
> where irony?


What's interesting is I see uwsgi and plack for perl...so things like scgi

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_Common_Gateway_Interface

http://uwsgi-docs.readthedocs.org/en/latest/

http://plackperl.org/

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#34352

From	the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com>
Date	2014-11-07 22:17 -0800
Message-ID	<77102f0a-4e08-46f2-bd92-ae0615d694a2@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#34351

On Friday, November 7, 2014 10:08:57 PM UTC-8, the_gavino_himself wrote:
> On Friday, November 7, 2014 10:01:54 PM UTC-8, the_gavino_himself wrote:
> > On Thursday, October 23, 2014 8:03:13 AM UTC-7, Sp...@controlq.com wrote:
> > > On Tue, 21 Oct 2014, gavino_himself wrote:
> > > [...]
> > > >
> > > > so do you have any scgi or other for web library? or are you just talking shit?
> > > >
> > > 
> > > Gavino will likely go blissfully through life without ever realizing the 
> > > full irony of this query.
> > 
> > explain
> > 
> > scgi is simple cgi, something like fastcgi
> > 
> > where irony?
> 
> 
> What's interesting is I see uwsgi and plack for perl...so things like scgi
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_Common_Gateway_Interface
> 
> http://uwsgi-docs.readthedocs.org/en/latest/
> 
> http://plackperl.org/

Some tools let you program in 1 thing, and abstract away html, js, tons of web problems, like including thier own database:
http://gnoga.com/
http://happstack.com/page/view-page-slug/1/happstack
http://amber-lang.net/
http://labs.core.gen.tr/
http://www.swi-prolog.org/FAQ/PrologLAMP.txt

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