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Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded

Started byRaimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com>
First post2014-07-10 02:35 -0700
Last post2014-07-13 09:57 -0700
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  Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2014-07-10 02:35 -0700
    Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2014-07-10 17:18 +0200
      Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2014-07-10 08:41 -0700
        Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2014-07-10 17:55 +0200
          Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-07-10 19:53 +0000
            Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded jacko <jackokring@gmail.com> - 2014-07-15 05:15 -0700
        Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2014-07-10 09:02 -0700
        Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-07-10 15:45 -1000
          Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2014-07-10 21:44 -0700
            Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-07-10 18:53 -1000
              Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-07-11 12:59 +0000
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2014-07-11 09:33 -0500
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-07-11 07:33 -1000
          Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-07-11 20:32 -0700
            Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Elizabeth D Rather <erather@forth.com> - 2014-07-11 18:02 -1000
            Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Paul E Bennett <Paul_E.Bennett@topmail.co.uk> - 2014-07-12 11:54 +0100
            Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-07-20 23:41 -0400
              Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-07-20 21:09 -1000
        Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2014-07-11 00:59 -0700
    Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded bruce.mcfarling@gmail.com - 2014-07-10 09:06 -0700
      Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2014-07-10 11:12 -0700
        Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2014-07-10 11:30 -0700
          Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2014-07-10 11:59 -0700
            Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded mhx@iae.nl - 2014-07-10 12:54 -0700
            Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded bruce.mcfarling@gmail.com - 2014-07-10 12:56 -0700
              Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded bruce.mcfarling@gmail.com - 2014-07-10 13:19 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2014-07-10 23:01 +0200
                  Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded bruce.mcfarling@gmail.com - 2014-07-10 16:29 -0700
                    Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2014-07-11 02:15 +0200
                      Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded bruce.mcfarling@gmail.com - 2014-07-10 20:00 -0700
                        Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-07-10 17:56 -1000
                    Implementing UM/MOD (was: Forth16e, Forth32e, ...) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-07-11 12:12 +0000
                      Re: Implementing UM/MOD (was: Forth16e, Forth32e, ...) bruce.mcfarling@gmail.com - 2014-07-11 07:41 -0700
                        Re: Implementing UM/MOD (was: Forth16e, Forth32e, ...) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-07-11 15:56 +0000
                          Re: Implementing UM/MOD (was: Forth16e, Forth32e, ...) bruce.mcfarling@gmail.com - 2014-07-11 09:26 -0700
                          Re: Implementing UM/MOD AKK <akk@nospam.org> - 2014-07-11 20:05 +0200
                          Re: Implementing UM/MOD (was: Forth16e, Forth32e, ...) bruce.mcfarling@gmail.com - 2014-07-12 01:38 -0700
                            Re: Implementing UM/MOD (was: Forth16e, Forth32e, ...) bruce.mcfarling@gmail.com - 2014-07-12 02:00 -0700
                    Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-07-13 09:31 +0000
                      Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded bruce.mcfarling@gmail.com - 2014-07-13 07:02 -0700
                        Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2014-07-13 09:35 -0700
                          Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded bruce.mcfarling@gmail.com - 2014-07-13 10:02 -0700
                          Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2014-07-13 12:18 -0500
                            Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2014-07-13 10:45 -0700
                              Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-07-13 08:06 -1000
                            Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-07-13 08:02 -1000
              Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2014-07-11 10:28 +0100
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded bruce.mcfarling@gmail.com - 2014-07-11 06:28 -0700
            Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-07-10 20:18 +0000
            Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-07-12 19:01 -0700
              Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-07-15 22:18 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2014-07-16 00:01 -0700
                  Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-07-16 18:25 -0700
                    Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Alexander Skobelev <al.skobelev@gmail.com> - 2014-07-17 10:21 +0400
                      Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-07-17 15:56 -0700
                        Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Alexander Skobelev <al.skobelev@gmail.com> - 2014-07-18 09:35 +0400
                    Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2014-07-17 00:32 -0700
                      Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2014-07-17 00:36 -0700
                        Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-07-17 16:52 -0700
                      Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-07-16 22:55 -1000
                        Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-07-17 16:34 -0700
                          Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded stephenXXX@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2014-07-18 14:30 +0000
                            Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-07-18 14:40 +0000
                              Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2014-07-18 17:05 +0200
                                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-07-18 17:26 +0000
                                  Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2014-07-19 22:31 +0200
                                    Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-07-21 15:14 +0000
                            Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2014-07-19 00:37 +0200
                              Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-18 16:30 -0700
                                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2014-07-19 01:40 +0200
                                  Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-18 17:00 -0700
                                    Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-07-19 16:36 -0700
                                      Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-07-19 21:36 -0400
                                        Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-07-19 21:05 -0700
                                          Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-07-21 02:01 -0400
                                        Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2014-07-20 06:09 -0700
                                          Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2014-07-20 06:25 -0700
                                          Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-07-20 22:11 -0700
                                            Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2014-07-20 22:47 -0700
                                              Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-07-20 21:02 -1000
                                                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-07-21 21:54 -0700
                                                  Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-07-22 03:47 -0400
                                                    Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2014-07-22 01:06 -0700
                                                      Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2014-07-22 01:12 -0700
                                                      Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-07-22 04:25 -0400
                                                        Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded bruce.mcfarling@gmail.com - 2014-07-22 20:41 -0700
                                                    Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-07-22 08:25 -1000
                                                      Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-07-22 19:15 -0700
                                                        Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-07-23 04:23 -0400
                                                          Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> - 2014-07-23 12:48 +0200
                                              Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-07-21 21:35 -0700
                                                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2014-07-21 23:53 -0700
                                                  Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-07-22 18:11 -0700
                                                    Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2014-07-22 22:08 -0700
                                                    Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2014-07-22 22:22 -0700
                                                    Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2014-07-23 03:27 -0500
                                                      Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-07-24 19:00 -0700
                                                        Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2014-07-25 03:51 -0500
                                                          Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded jkn_gg@nicorp.f9.co.uk - 2014-07-25 04:50 -0700
                                                            Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2014-07-25 08:11 -0700
                                                              Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-07-25 23:01 -0700
                                                              Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2014-07-26 04:13 -0700
                                                                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-07-26 08:02 -0400
                                                          Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-07-25 13:10 -0400
                                                            Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-07-25 23:09 -0700
                                                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-07-22 03:45 -0400
                                            Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-07-21 01:59 -0400
                                            Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-07-21 12:41 +0000
                                          Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-07-21 08:42 +0000
                                        Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2014-07-20 09:28 -0700
                                          Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-07-21 02:01 -0400
                                            Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded "Rod Pemberton" <buzzoff@nonamewhichexists.cmm> - 2014-09-19 20:05 -0400
                                              Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-09-20 04:30 -0400
                                                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded "Rod Pemberton" <buzzoff@nonamewhichexists.cmm> - 2014-09-20 18:15 -0400
                                              Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2014-09-21 06:48 -0700
                                                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded "Rod Pemberton" <buzzoff@nonamewhichexists.cmm> - 2014-09-21 20:50 -0400
                                                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-09-21 20:38 -0700
                                          Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-07-21 08:37 +0000
                                      Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded stephenXXX@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2014-07-20 11:45 +0000
                                        Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-07-20 19:55 -0700
                                    Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-07-21 15:10 +0000
                                    Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded stephenXXX@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2014-07-21 16:34 +0000
                                      Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-07-22 10:53 +0000
                                        Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded stephenXXX@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2014-07-22 14:42 +0000
                                          Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-07-23 15:50 +0000
                                            Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2014-07-23 16:40 -0700
                                              Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-07-24 14:08 +0000
                                                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded bruce.mcfarling@gmail.com - 2014-07-25 06:36 -0700
                            Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-07-18 22:59 -0700
                            Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-07-19 11:17 +0000
                            Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-07-19 17:04 -0700
                              Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-07-19 21:38 -0400
                      Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-07-17 10:16 +0000
                        Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-07-17 16:13 -0700
                      Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded mhx@iae.nl - 2014-07-19 08:04 -0700
                  Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded bruce.mcfarling@gmail.com - 2014-07-16 20:51 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-07-27 21:08 -0700
          Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-07-10 20:12 +0000
            Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded bruce.mcfarling@gmail.com - 2014-07-10 13:49 -0700
              Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-07-10 11:31 -1000
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded bruce.mcfarling@gmail.com - 2014-07-10 16:30 -0700
                  Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2014-07-11 01:11 -0700
                Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2014-07-10 21:30 -0700
        Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2014-07-10 21:57 +0200
        Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-07-20 23:47 -0400
    Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2014-07-10 12:48 -0500
      Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2014-07-10 11:33 -0700
        Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2014-07-10 23:35 +0200
          Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2014-07-10 21:51 -0700
    Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Matthias Koch <matthias.koch@hot.uni-hannover.de> - 2014-07-11 12:30 +0200
      Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2014-07-11 11:56 +0100
        Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2014-07-11 07:08 -0500
          Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2014-07-12 18:46 +0100
            Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Matthias Koch <matthias.koch@hot.uni-hannover.de> - 2014-07-14 15:50 +0200
        Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2014-07-11 17:50 -0700
      Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded bruce.mcfarling@gmail.com - 2014-07-14 17:32 -0700
    Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2014-07-12 21:56 -0700
      Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded bruce.mcfarling@gmail.com - 2014-07-12 23:12 -0700
      Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-07-13 10:42 +0000
        Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2014-07-13 13:54 +0200
    Re: Forth16e, Forth32e, "de facto" forth programming standards for embedded bruce.mcfarling@gmail.com - 2014-07-13 09:57 -0700

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#32408

Frombruce.mcfarling@gmail.com
Date2014-07-13 09:57 -0700
Message-ID<4e77a17d-249d-435a-adf3-cbc88640b6c0@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#32301
So, to summarize ...

On Thursday, July 10, 2014 5:35:12 AM UTC-4, Raimond Dragomir wrote:

> ANS maps quite good for a 16bit system, and that's normal. But the compatibility between 16bit and 32bit adds a big overhead for a 32bit system.

So Forth94 "aligned", "sub-CORE" cross-implementation wordsets.

> Here are two sensible areas:

> 1. picture numeric output.

<# U# SIGN U#S U#> implemented in both, <# # SIGN #S #> reserved names in the 32bit, implemented in the 16bit.

> 2. FM/MOD, SM/REM and mixed precision math. 
> Also, why having both FM/MOD and SM/REM? ...

Because when they are needed they are necessary, but:

Forth94 /MOD implemented, symmetric or floored at the implementers option (as in Fort94) ... you just need to do a signed ``/'' with a 0 result for one and a -1 result for the other to flag which one it is ... and:

* U/MOD implemented in both, UM/MOD implemented in the 16bit.
* S*/ S*/MOD implemented in both, */ */MOD implemented in the 16bit.
* S>NUMBER implemented in both, >NUMBER implemented in the 16bit
* SM/REM, FM/MOD, S/REM, and F/MOD reserved names in both, and words not implemented in the 32bit required in the 16bit are reserved names.

> A "Forth16e" standard for 16bit embedded systems is quite close to the ANS if not almost it. I think not much is to discuss about it. 200x standard even had done a good step in recognizing that double cells of any kind may not even be found in severely constrained 16bit systems.
 
> A "Forth32e" standard for 32bit embedded systems has some problems with the ANS standard. It may be already 90-95% of the ANS, maybe. It's the most interesting one to talk about.

Two load constants, in 16bit, Forth16e TRUE, Forth32e FALSE, visa versa in 32bit.

QUESTIONS:
Flash issues: CREATE DOES> IMMEDIATE

Pair operations: I use these heavily for non-double operations: 2@ 2DUP 2DROP 2OVER 2SWAP 2>R 2R> 2R@ but I'm not an implementer, so its a question of what the implementer(s) of the de facto standard wish to implement.

DO-LOOPS: some minimal system implementers skip DO-LOOPS and rely on FOR-NEXT instead. Another one determined by what the implementer(s) elect to implement.

ENVIRONMENT? ~ the implementer may prefer to specify specific system constants to cover the range of distinct features that may have to be accounted for.

WORD/FIND ~ the implementer may wish to specify a pair that does not require a buffer in addition to the console input buffer.

Setting those aside implies that both Forth16e and Forth32e implementations include CORE:

! ' ( * + +! , - . ." / /MOD 0< 0= 1+ 1- 2! 2* 2/ : ; < = > >BODY >IN >NUMER >R ?DUP @ ABORT ABS ACCEPT ALIGN ALIGNED ALLOT AND BASE BEGIN BL C! C@ CELL+ CELLS CHAR CHAR+ CHARS CONSTANT COUNT CR DECIMAL DROP DUP ELSE EMIT EVALUATE EXECUTE EXIT FILL HERE HOLD IF INVERT KEY LITERAL LSHIFT MAX MIN MOD MOVE NEGATE OR OVER POSTPONE QUIT R> R@ RECURSE REPEAT ROT RSHIFT S" SIGN SOURCE SPACE SPACES STATE SWAP THEN TYPE U. U< UNTIL VARIABLE WHILE XOR [ ['] [CHAR] ]

I would suggest that including [DEFINED] and [UNDEFINED] as well as a word to conditionally interpret the rest of the line, perhaps:
\ ?\ ( fl <...EOL>|<> -- ) IMMEDIATE ~ if fl is TRUE, skip the rest of the line

... can go a long way in simple conditional compilation tasks if, eg, streaming a source to a Forth console interpreter over some sort of serial link.

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