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Re: Are Computer able to think?

Started by"Clyde W. Phillips Jr." <cwpjr02@gmail.com>
First post2014-05-24 19:09 -0700
Last post2014-05-27 00:59 -0700
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  Re: Are Computer able to think? "Clyde W. Phillips Jr." <cwpjr02@gmail.com> - 2014-05-24 19:09 -0700
    Re: Are Computer able to think? bruce axtens <bugmagnet@outlook.com> - 2014-05-25 13:52 +0000
      Re: Are Computer able to think? "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-05-25 16:36 -0400
        Re: Are Computer able to think? Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2014-05-27 00:59 -0700

#30663 — Re: Are Computer able to think?

From"Clyde W. Phillips Jr." <cwpjr02@gmail.com>
Date2014-05-24 19:09 -0700
SubjectRe: Are Computer able to think?
Message-ID<6421b27f-99b1-4534-93c2-c2354ce707d7@googlegroups.com>
 Regarding Artificial Intelligence:

Computers that don't think have become far more dangerous.

BIG meta data that can correlate to an individual and their group participation activity and habits can by real-time and parallel multivariate analysis be programmed to disrupt, control or defeat any individuals, social groups, business ventures, governmental and political activity.

This is here and now.

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#30689

Frombruce axtens <bugmagnet@outlook.com>
Date2014-05-25 13:52 +0000
Message-ID<llssis$sk9$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#30663
We are yet to figure out how humans think, that is, how the brain works. 
When we figure that out, we'll be able to make computers do the same. 
We've been trying to understand ourselves for centuries and the deeper we 
dig the more complexity we find. I figure we need a few more centuries 
before we know ourselves well enough to build a thinking computer.

My two bob.

-- Bruce

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#30713

From"Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm>
Date2014-05-25 16:36 -0400
Message-ID<op.xgfni2ko6zenlw@localhost>
In reply to#30689
On Sun, 25 May 2014 09:52:29 -0400, bruce axtens <bugmagnet@outlook.com>  
wrote:

> We are yet to figure out how humans think, that is, how the brain works.
> When we figure that out, we'll be able to make computers do the same.

I don't believe that's a necessary prerequisite.

We could use DNA to produce a living computer without ever knowing
how the brain portion of the DNA works.  Or, we could effect similar
functionality as the human mind in silicon without knowing fully how
the human mind works.  In either case, we don't need to know how the
human mind works.


Rod Pemberton

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#30822

FromMark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com>
Date2014-05-27 00:59 -0700
Message-ID<74865b4a-9c5e-4bda-b217-9794ee012b35@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#30713
On Sunday, 25 May 2014 21:36:28 UTC+1, Rod Pemberton  wrote:
> We could use DNA to produce a living computer without ever knowing
> how the brain portion of the DNA works.  Or, we could effect similar
> functionality as the human mind in silicon without knowing fully how
> the human mind works.  In either case, we don't need to know how the
> human mind works.
> 
What... Like a brain?

Just make a baby. There. Done. And it's fun, too :-)

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