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| Started by | albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) |
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| First post | 2014-01-12 15:18 +0000 |
| Last post | 2014-01-27 16:26 -0500 |
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Green Array energy consumption: a reality check. albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-01-12 15:18 +0000
Re: Green Array energy consumption: a reality check. Tristan Plumb <firth@trstn.net> - 2014-01-12 17:02 +0000
Re: Green Array energy consumption: a reality check. albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-01-12 17:27 +0000
Re: Green Array energy consumption: a reality check. Tristan Plumb <firth@trstn.net> - 2014-01-12 22:40 +0000
Re: Green Array energy consumption: a reality check. albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-01-12 23:03 +0000
Re: Green Array energy consumption: a reality check. Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-12 16:54 -0800
Re: Green Array energy consumption: a reality check. "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnohavenotit.cnm> - 2014-01-13 02:45 -0500
Re: Green Array energy consumption: a reality check. "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnohavenotit.cnm> - 2014-01-13 02:54 -0500
Re: Green Array energy consumption: a reality check. "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnohavenotit.cnm> - 2014-01-13 02:57 -0500
Re: Green Array energy consumption: a reality check. albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-01-13 12:32 +0000
Re: Green Array energy consumption: a reality check. "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnohavenotit.cnm> - 2014-01-13 09:52 -0500
Re: Green Array energy consumption: a reality check. mszepien@gmail.com - 2014-01-19 11:01 -0800
Re: Green Array energy consumption: a reality check. albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-01-19 19:38 +0000
Re: Green Array energy consumption: a reality check. mszepien@gmail.com - 2014-01-19 13:40 -0800
Re: Green Array energy consumption: a reality check. "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnohavenotit.cnm> - 2014-01-19 17:50 -0500
Re: Green Array energy consumption: a reality check. mszepien@gmail.com - 2014-01-20 12:55 -0800
Re: Green Array energy consumption: a reality check. "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnohavenotit.cnm> - 2014-01-20 16:34 -0500
Re: Green Array energy consumption: a reality check. mszepien@gmail.com - 2014-01-21 04:49 -0800
Re: Green Array energy consumption: a reality check. "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnohavenotit.cnm> - 2014-01-21 10:48 -0500
Re: Green Array energy consumption: a reality check. mszepien@gmail.com - 2014-01-21 14:37 -0800
Re: Green Array energy consumption: a reality check. albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-01-22 19:30 +0000
Re: Green Array energy consumption: a reality check. "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnohavenotit.cnm> - 2014-01-27 16:26 -0500
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| From | albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) |
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| Date | 2014-01-22 19:30 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <52e01c48$0$9218$e4fe514c@dreader35.news.xs4all.nl> |
| In reply to | #27997 |
In article <6bba0a1f-be5b-4ec3-9cf0-b348c56891d8@googlegroups.com>, <mszepien@gmail.com> wrote: <SNIP> > >That said, it's plausible that the GreenArray chips would have a far >lower cost of acquisition than custom ASICs, so perhaps, in spite of >lesser energy efficiency, they might win out over ASICs for long enough >that the uncertainty in bitcoin price becomes the dominant factor and >all bets, essentially, are off. We had already established that the GA chip is 20 times less energy efficient. So one GA chip at 5 Watts agrees with 250 mW of the heavy stuff. That is a 10^-3 part of a $3000 investment. So the GA144 should go at $3 a piece including the PCB, to be competitive. [All based on an overly optimistic view of the GA144 capabilities.] So neither the bit-coins/Kwh nor the investment/Ghash favour the GA144. Groetjes Albert [back of the envelope, correct me if I'm wrong] -- Albert van der Horst, UTRECHT,THE NETHERLANDS Economic growth -- being exponential -- ultimately falters. albert@spe&ar&c.xs4all.nl &=n http://home.hccnet.nl/a.w.m.van.der.horst
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| From | "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnohavenotit.cnm> |
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| Date | 2014-01-27 16:26 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <op.xac66jkq5zc71u@localhost> |
| In reply to | #27852 |
On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 02:45:42 -0500, Rod Pemberton <dont_use_email@xnohavenotit.cnm> wrote: > P.S. Yes, it's true that simple usage of Bitcoin constitutes money > laundering under U.S. Federal laws. It's a non-legal tender transaction > with indeterminable source and destination that didn't occur within > the financial system. The U.S. has two definitions of money laundering. > That's the second one. The first is that money comes from an unlawful > activity. The second one needs *NO* illegal activity other than use. > That's why you can be charged with money laundering from using poker > chips, Canadian dollars used in the US, (etc.) to "transfer" money... > > [elsewhere in thread, I wrote] > > It's very likely in my opinion that governments and banks will use > their full authority to control any useful virtual currencies and/or > the development of them. They're not going to relinquish monetary > policy to ordinary people of the world any time soon even if the > technology allows for it. They're not going to forfit their ability > to control crime by preventing money laundering any time soon either. > [...] With a second major attack on Bitcoin by law enforcement, it would seem the "Bitcoin war" has started in the U.S.: "Bitcoin exchange [BitInstant] CEO arrested for money laundering" via CNNMoney. Shortened link is through bit.ly: http://cnnmon.ie/1lhNA3K Rod Pemberton P.S. No, I don't own or possess or control or use any. So, please don't shoot the messenger.
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