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| Started by | Tessa Bonting <tessa.bonting@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2015-07-12 06:48 -0700 |
| Last post | 2015-08-06 21:19 +0200 |
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How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Tessa Bonting <tessa.bonting@gmail.com> - 2015-07-12 06:48 -0700
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-07-12 15:10 +0000
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Tessa Bonting <tessa.bonting@gmail.com> - 2015-07-12 08:47 -0700
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-07-13 01:15 -0700
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-07-13 01:20 -0700
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-07-13 01:30 -0700
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-07-13 01:33 -0700
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-07-13 01:28 -0700
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2015-07-12 08:23 -0700
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2015-07-12 18:56 +0200
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2015-07-13 20:24 -0700
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2015-07-14 09:43 +0200
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2015-07-18 14:18 +1000
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2015-08-01 12:46 +1000
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx mhx@iae.nl - 2015-08-01 00:52 -0700
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2015-08-02 18:16 +1000
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx mhx@iae.nl - 2015-08-02 02:18 -0700
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2015-08-05 13:35 +1000
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-08-01 21:37 +0200
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx JennyB <jennybrien@googlemail.com> - 2015-08-05 06:00 -0700
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-08-05 13:16 +0000
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx JennyB <jennybrien@googlemail.com> - 2015-08-05 09:40 -0700
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-08-06 14:34 +0000
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx JennyB <jennybrien@googlemail.com> - 2015-08-07 00:33 -0700
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2015-08-15 12:37 +1000
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-08-15 13:53 +0200
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2015-08-16 12:53 +1000
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2015-08-08 13:06 +1000
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-15 03:23 +0000
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-07-12 14:55 -0700
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-13 12:53 +0100
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-07-13 06:13 -0700
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-13 16:00 +0100
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-07-13 09:12 -0700
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-07-13 09:26 -0700
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2015-07-13 17:00 +0200
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-13 16:58 +0100
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2015-07-13 20:53 +0200
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx bettilyona@gmail.com - 2015-07-13 09:13 -0700
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-07-13 09:15 -0700
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-07-13 13:10 -0700
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-07-13 14:24 -0700
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-07-13 18:51 -0700
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2015-07-13 20:19 -0700
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-07-13 20:49 -0700
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2015-07-13 21:48 -0700
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-14 09:38 +0100
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-07-13 21:44 -0700
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-07-13 21:53 -0700
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2015-07-13 22:04 -0700
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx humptydumpty <ouatubi@gmail.com> - 2015-07-14 01:22 -0700
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx humptydumpty <ouatubi@gmail.com> - 2015-07-14 01:47 -0700
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-07-14 09:56 -0700
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2015-07-14 10:45 -0700
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx humptydumpty <ouatubi@gmail.com> - 2015-07-14 11:10 -0700
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-14 09:35 +0100
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-07-14 02:17 -0700
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx humptydumpty <ouatubi@gmail.com> - 2015-07-14 02:24 -0700
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-07-14 02:25 -0700
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-07-14 09:32 -0700
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-14 17:50 +0100
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-07-14 10:48 -0700
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-14 18:59 +0100
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-14 20:49 +0100
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx "Rod Pemberton" <boo@fasdfrewar.cdm> - 2015-07-15 00:52 -0400
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-15 12:09 +0100
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-07-15 04:19 -0700
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx "Rod Pemberton" <boo@fasdfrewar.cdm> - 2015-07-15 22:10 -0400
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 00:42 -0700
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-16 14:29 +0100
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 12:52 -0700
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-16 09:59 +0100
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Mike Mellen <mmellen@intellikey.com> - 2015-07-15 07:56 -0400
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-15 16:27 +0100
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-07-15 10:47 -0700
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx "Rod Pemberton" <boo@fasdfrewar.cdm> - 2015-07-15 21:50 -0400
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-07-15 19:38 +0000
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-07-15 12:58 -0700
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx "Rod Pemberton" <boo@fasdfrewar.cdm> - 2015-07-15 22:20 -0400
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-07-14 09:53 -0700
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-07-14 10:12 -0700
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-07-14 10:53 -0700
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-14 20:06 +0100
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-07-14 12:18 -0700
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-14 20:52 +0100
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-07-14 13:39 -0700
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-14 22:20 +0100
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-07-14 21:10 -0700
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-15 12:03 +0100
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2015-07-15 14:16 +0200
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2015-07-15 14:04 +0200
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-15 15:44 +0100
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-15 15:47 +0100
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-07-15 15:26 +0000
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx JennyB <jennybrien@googlemail.com> - 2015-07-16 05:41 -0700
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-16 14:13 +0100
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-07-14 14:18 -0700
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-07-15 02:42 -0700
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-07-15 01:26 -0700
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-07-15 10:44 -0700
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-15 19:31 +0100
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-15 11:48 -0700
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-07-15 12:13 -0700
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-15 20:18 +0100
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-22 11:11 +0000
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Håkan Thörngren <hth313@gmail.com> - 2015-07-14 11:38 -0700
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-14 19:58 +0100
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-07-15 05:55 +0000
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Håkan Thörngren <hth313@gmail.com> - 2015-07-15 00:03 -0700
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-07-15 01:41 -0700
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-13 22:05 -0700
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-07-13 14:24 -0700
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-13 23:13 +0100
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-07-13 13:03 -1000
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-14 09:31 +0100
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-07-15 13:24 -0700
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-15 22:04 +0100
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-13 22:52 +0100
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-07-13 13:12 -0700
Re: How do lambdas work, I cannot find them in 20xx "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-11 23:02 +0000
Re: How do lambdas work, I cannot find them in 20xx "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-12 02:56 +0000
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-07-13 13:16 +0000
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-07-13 16:00 +0000
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-13 17:58 +0100
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Steve Graham <solitary.wanderer52@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 09:54 -0700
Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2015-08-06 21:19 +0200
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| From | "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> |
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| Date | 2015-07-14 17:50 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <mo3ei2$74p$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #40619 |
on 14/07/2015 17:32:47, wrote: > On Tuesday, July 14, 2015 at 2:25:14 AM UTC-7, Mark Wills wrote: >> On Tuesday, 14 July 2015 02:51:44 UTC+1, hughag...@gmail.com wrote: >> > On Monday, July 13, 2015 at 2:24:20 PM UTC-7, Mark Wills wrote: >> > > I'm struggling to see the advantage of: >> > > >> > > : foo some code [: bar ;] more code execute ; >> > > >> > > against >> > > >> > > : foo some code more code bar ; >> > > >> > > It's just a different way of factoring. >> > >> > You can struggle mightily and never see the advantage in the former --- > because it is nonsense. >> > >> > I think that the Forth-200x committee gave us fake quotations (and your > "bonkers simple" implementation was fake too) [snip] >> >> Ouch! How is it fake? It seems to work as far as I can tell. And the >> quotation has access to the enclosing definition's locals. >> >> I'm not seeing where it's wrong? > > Oh, come on Mark! This is not that difficult! > > You have to pass the xt of the quotation into another function (the > "higher -order" function) and that function will EXECUTE the quotation > --- when the quotation executes, it has access to the local variables > of its parent fun ction (the function that called the higher-order > function and which is stil l in scope waiting for the the higher-order > function to exit). > > Go back to that example I gave you. COUNT-FEMALES is the parent > function (w hat you called "enclosing definition" above). The > quotation is defined with curly brackets. EACH is the higher-order > function. EACH has a BEGIN WHILE REPEAT loop that traverses the list, > and it does an EXECUTE on the xt of th e quotation for each node, > giving the address of the node to the quotation as a parameter. Notice > how the quotation accesses the CNT local variable of the COUNT-FEMALES > function when it is executed inside of the EACH function ? > > Explaining this basic stuff over and over is becoming tiresome --- > just thi nk about it a little bit! --- this is easy and obvious. > Asking for an explanation is becoming a bit tedious too. All you've done here is explain how any XT -- quotation, :NONAME, or tick of a named word -- can be used in one specific kind of higher order function. Please provide a definition of quotations (or an RfD; I don't mind either way) so the rest of us human mortals can work out why our implementations are fakes, and how we might rectify that.
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| From | hughaguilar96@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2015-07-14 10:48 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <4779b6b9-f541-47af-90f7-58480e2543a8@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #40620 |
On Tuesday, July 14, 2015 at 9:50:35 AM UTC-7, Alex McDonald wrote: > on 14/07/2015 17:32:47, wrote: > > Notice > > how the quotation accesses the CNT local variable of the COUNT-FEMALES > > function when it is executed inside of the EACH function ? > > All you've done > here is explain how any XT -- quotation, :NONAME, or tick of a named word > -- can be used in one specific kind of higher order function. Alex McDonald is a liar --- he is purposely ignoring the fact that my quotations have access to the parent functions local variables (the CNT local in this example) when they are executed inside of the higher-order function. This is the same lie that he was telling in this thread: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.lang.forth/C_NDoMSUAx0%5B76-100%5D On Sunday, July 5, 2015 at 7:57:51 PM UTC-7, hughag...@gmail.com wrote: > On Sunday, July 5, 2015 at 2:36:05 AM UTC-7, Alex McDonald wrote: > > Then, as Hugh complains about Bernd's "faked quotations", his FMITE is no > > more than :NONAME syntactic sugar. Perhaps worse, as from what I read > > there the language does not permit use of the quotation outside of its > > enclosing word. > > Alex McDonald is lying --- as usual. Alex just tells the same lie over and over again, in the hope that somebody will eventually believe it. If he gets caught lying (he always does), he just waits a few days and then tells the same lie again. The reason why he does this is that he knows that so long as he is supporting Forth-200x, the Forth-200x committee will support him. > Please provide a definition of quotations (or an RfD; I don't mind either > way) so the rest of us human mortals can work out why our implementations > are fakes, and how we might rectify that. My FMITE is not compatible with ANS-Forth or Forth-200x, hence it is not a suitable topic for a Forth-200x RfD. It is absurd that you suggest that I care about Forth-200x and want to participate in Forth-200x --- you are out of touche with reality. When I was interested in Forth-200x, I was told that any RfD has to be put on comp.lang.forth to get feedback from the "Forth community." In practice, what this meant was John Passaniti telling a lot of lies about it, and twisting the words, and flaming me with vulgar insults until I eventually gave up. Now you have taken Passaniti's place as the Forth-200x attack-poodle. Those RfDs are a waste of time --- they just result in me getting attacked by faggots --- ultimately, Leon Wagner will decide what gets put in Forth-200x, and the "Forth community" be damned. I still think that Passaniti was getting paid by Elizabeth Rather. After Jeff Fox died, Passaniti stopped showing up on comp.lang.forth. Obviously, he never had any interest in Forth (he never wrote any Forth code or showed any knowledge of Forth) --- his only interest was in insulting Jeff Fox, and after Jeff Fox died he had no further interest in comp.lang.forth. Why would Passaniti particularly care about Jeff Fox though? If he just enjoyed insulting people, he would have continued insulting myself or various other people after Jeff Fox died. The explanation seems to be that it was Elizabeth Rather who cared about having Jeff Fox insulted, and that Passaniti only cared about getting paid --- after Jeff Fox died, Elizabeth Rather stopped paying Passaniti, and so he stopped showing up. Now we have Alex McDonald replacing John Passaniti and claiming that he "does standards for a living" --- Jeff Fox is dead, so Alex focuses on lying about me --- comp.lang.forth corruption just goes on and on forever... P.S. for Elizabeth Rather: I used the word "faggot" above, so this is your cue to denounce me for being homophobic (again).
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| From | "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> |
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| Date | 2015-07-14 18:59 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <mo3ij0$mdh$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #40625 |
on 14/07/2015 18:48:40, wrote: > On Tuesday, July 14, 2015 at 9:50:35 AM UTC-7, Alex McDonald wrote: >> on 14/07/2015 17:32:47, wrote: >> > Notice >> > how the quotation accesses the CNT local variable of the COUNT-FEMALES >> > function when it is executed inside of the EACH function ? >> >> All you've done >> here is explain how any XT -- quotation, :NONAME, or tick of a named word >> -- can be used in one specific kind of higher order function. > > Alex McDonald is a liar --- he is purposely ignoring the fact that my > quota tions have access to the parent functions local variables (the > CNT local in this example) when they are executed inside of the > higher-order function. > > This is the same lie that he was telling in this thread: > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.lang.forth/C_NDoMSUAx0%5B76-10 > 0%5D > > On Sunday, July 5, 2015 at 7:57:51 PM UTC-7, hughag...@gmail.com > > wrote: >> On Sunday, July 5, 2015 at 2:36:05 AM UTC-7, Alex McDonald wrote: > > wrote: >> > Then, as Hugh complains about Bernd's "faked quotations", his FMITE is > wrote: no >> > more than :NONAME syntactic sugar. Perhaps worse, as from what I read >> > there the language does not permit use of the quotation outside of its >> > enclosing word. >> >> Alex McDonald is lying --- as usual. > > Alex just tells the same lie over and over again, in the hope that > somebody will eventually believe it. If he gets caught lying (he > always does), he j ust waits a few days and then tells the same lie > again. > > The reason why he does this is that he knows that so long as he is > supporti ng Forth-200x, the Forth-200x committee will support him. > >> Please provide a definition of quotations (or an RfD; I don't mind either >> way) so the rest of us human mortals can work out why our implementations >> are fakes, and how we might rectify that. > > My FMITE is not compatible with ANS-Forth or Forth-200x, hence it is > not a suitable topic for a Forth-200x RfD. It is absurd that you > suggest that I c are about Forth-200x and want to participate in > Forth-200x --- you are out of touche with reality. > > When I was interested in Forth-200x, I was told that any RfD has to be > put on comp.lang.forth to get feedback from the "Forth community." In > practice, what this meant was John Passaniti telling a lot of lies > about it, and twi sting the words, and flaming me with vulgar insults > until I eventually gave up. Now you have taken Passaniti's place as > the Forth-200x attack-poodle. Those RfDs are a waste of time --- they > just result in me getting attacked by faggots --- ultimately, Leon > Wagner will decide what gets put in Forth-2 00x, and the "Forth > community" be damned. > > I still think that Passaniti was getting paid by Elizabeth Rather. > After Je ff Fox died, Passaniti stopped showing up on comp.lang.forth. > Obviously, he never had any interest in Forth (he never wrote any > Forth code or showed a ny knowledge of Forth) --- his only interest > was in insulting Jeff Fox, and after Jeff Fox died he had no further > interest in comp.lang.forth. Why wou ld Passaniti particularly care > about Jeff Fox though? If he just enjoyed in sulting people, he would > have continued insulting myself or various other p eople after Jeff > Fox died. The explanation seems to be that it was Elizabet h Rather > who cared about having Jeff Fox insulted, and that Passaniti only > cared about getting paid --- after Jeff Fox died, Elizabeth Rather > stopped paying Passaniti, and so he stopped showing up. > > Now we have Alex McDonald replacing John Passaniti and claiming that > he "do es standards for a living" --- Jeff Fox is dead, so Alex > focuses on lying a bout me --- comp.lang.forth corruption just goes on > and on forever... > > P.S. for Elizabeth Rather: I used the word "faggot" above, so this is > your cue to denounce me for being homophobic (again). > Right, got it. You're full of shit.
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| From | "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> |
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| Date | 2015-07-14 20:49 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <mo3p1b$hco$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #40627 |
on 14/07/2015 18:59:19, "Alex McDonald" wrote: > on 14/07/2015 18:48:40, wrote: >> On Tuesday, July 14, 2015 at 9:50:35 AM UTC-7, Alex McDonald wrote: >>> on 14/07/2015 17:32:47, wrote: >>> > Notice >>> > how the quotation accesses the CNT local variable of the COUNT-FEMALES >>> > function when it is executed inside of the EACH function ? >>> >>> All you've done >>> here is explain how any XT -- quotation, :NONAME, or tick of a named word >>> -- can be used in one specific kind of higher order function. >> >> Alex McDonald is a liar --- he is purposely ignoring the fact that my >> quota tions have access to the parent functions local variables (the >> CNT local in this example) when they are executed inside of the >> higher-order function. >> >> This is the same lie that he was telling in this thread: >> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.lang.forth/C_NDoMSUAx0%5B76-10 >> 0%5D >> >> On Sunday, July 5, 2015 at 7:57:51 PM UTC-7, hughag...@gmail.com >> > wrote: >>> On Sunday, July 5, 2015 at 2:36:05 AM UTC-7, Alex McDonald wrote: >> > wrote: >>> > Then, as Hugh complains about Bernd's "faked quotations", his FMITE is >> wrote: no >>> > more than :NONAME syntactic sugar. Perhaps worse, as from what I read >>> > there the language does not permit use of the quotation outside of its >>> > enclosing word. >>> >>> Alex McDonald is lying --- as usual. >> >> Alex just tells the same lie over and over again, in the hope that >> somebody will eventually believe it. If he gets caught lying (he >> always does), he j ust waits a few days and then tells the same lie >> again. >> >> The reason why he does this is that he knows that so long as he is >> supporti ng Forth-200x, the Forth-200x committee will support him. >> >>> Please provide a definition of quotations (or an RfD; I don't mind either >>> way) so the rest of us human mortals can work out why our implementations >>> are fakes, and how we might rectify that. >> >> My FMITE is not compatible with ANS-Forth or Forth-200x, hence it is >> not a suitable topic for a Forth-200x RfD. It is absurd that you >> suggest that I c are about Forth-200x and want to participate in >> Forth-200x --- you are out of touche with reality. >> >> When I was interested in Forth-200x, I was told that any RfD has to be >> put on comp.lang.forth to get feedback from the "Forth community." In >> practice, what this meant was John Passaniti telling a lot of lies >> about it, and twi sting the words, and flaming me with vulgar insults >> until I eventually gave up. Now you have taken Passaniti's place as >> the Forth-200x attack-poodle. Those RfDs are a waste of time --- they >> just result in me getting attacked by faggots --- ultimately, Leon >> Wagner will decide what gets put in Forth-2 00x, and the "Forth >> community" be damned. >> >> I still think that Passaniti was getting paid by Elizabeth Rather. >> After Je ff Fox died, Passaniti stopped showing up on comp.lang.forth. >> Obviously, he never had any interest in Forth (he never wrote any >> Forth code or showed a ny knowledge of Forth) --- his only interest >> was in insulting Jeff Fox, and after Jeff Fox died he had no further >> interest in comp.lang.forth. Why wou ld Passaniti particularly care >> about Jeff Fox though? If he just enjoyed in sulting people, he would >> have continued insulting myself or various other p eople after Jeff >> Fox died. The explanation seems to be that it was Elizabet h Rather >> who cared about having Jeff Fox insulted, and that Passaniti only >> cared about getting paid --- after Jeff Fox died, Elizabeth Rather >> stopped paying Passaniti, and so he stopped showing up. >> >> Now we have Alex McDonald replacing John Passaniti and claiming that >> he "do es standards for a living" --- Jeff Fox is dead, so Alex >> focuses on lying a bout me --- comp.lang.forth corruption just goes on >> and on forever... >> >> P.S. for Elizabeth Rather: I used the word "faggot" above, so this is >> your cue to denounce me for being homophobic (again). >> > > Right, got it. You're full of shit. > To make up for my terse rudeness, here's something a bit longer. The Emperor's New Quotations ============================ A Play in 3 Acts Cast: Hugh: the self proclaimed Emperor. Having once lived in the city of UR-Forth, he is cast out by the evil Testra to drive the plains of nearby Forth Colons. Has access to the internet, which he invented. Crowd: a loose body of folks led by a monocled mad German scientist, an Englishman who knows that the answer to the question "FUNEX?" is "S,VFX", a Queen who witnessed the birth of Forth, and a number of other queens. Other members include the entire Dutch nation, a couple of barking mad 'Murricans, a pitchfork wielding Scotsman and a few hundred lurkers. WJ: Completely unhinged scribbler of Lisp poetry. Wonderfully gauche when not scheming. Rod: Lover of C, a venerable lady of great age quite past her prime. Gavino: Forth master, known for his Zen-like questions. Only appears during the interval. Act 1 ===== Hugh: "Look! My quotations are the dog's doughnuts! Fall and worship at my technical genius, you fakers and ANS Forth cultists! See how my FMITE and novice package (everything invented by me, pats pending, copyrights on lists etc) make all others look like amateurs!" Crowd: "Hmm. Hw do quotations work Hugh? Can you explain?" Hugh: "Yes! You are sodomite loving liars!" Crowd: "Pardon?" Hugh: "Jeff Fox!" Crowd: "Eh?" Hugh: "Elizabeth Rather pays for Leon Wagner to dominate Anton Ertl and tell him what to do!" Crowd: "We though this was about quotations..." Rod: "Hugh, this is much easier in C." Hugh: "Faggots!" Crowd: "Hugh, your scheme for quotations in FMITE is a bag of nuts and bolts that just won't work." Hugh: "Mummy! Help, these big people are being nasty!" (exeunt stage left pursued by crowd) Act 2 ===== Hugh: "Look! I can iterate over lists with quotations! The temples of ANS Forth shall crumble, and it's practitioners be cast destitute on the streets!" Crowd: "Have you tried an RfD?" Hugh: "I can't! Leon Wagner, see Act 1 etc!" WJ: I broke your lines for you. Anyone who knows anything whatsoever about usenet knows that he must limit the length of his lines. Let me demonstrate your abysmal ignorance thru the medium of Lisp poetry. ((It's pointless to listen) (to Forth-worshippers) ((who are)) (((comfortable only) with stone-age) tools) Crowd: (silence) Act 3 ===== To be continued.
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| From | "Rod Pemberton" <boo@fasdfrewar.cdm> |
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| Date | 2015-07-15 00:52 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <op.x1ss5o2cyfako5@localhost> |
| In reply to | #40634 |
On Tue, 14 Jul 2015 15:49:23 -0400, Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> wrote: > To make up for my terse rudeness, here's something a bit longer. Long rudeness ... > The Emperor's New Quotations > ============================ > > A Play in 3 Acts > > Cast: > > Hugh: the self proclaimed Emperor. Having once lived in the city of > UR-Forth, he is cast out by the evil Testra to drive the plains of nearby > Forth Colons. Has access to the internet, which he invented. Hugh Aquilar. What? You forgot the can't get a job programming, driving a taxi cab for a living, his brother is a math god, etc. > Crowd: a loose body of folks led by a monocled mad German scientist, Bernd Paysan. You forgot to add insane, arrogant, wrong-headed, random political diatrabes, pro-Nazi beliefs, racist, anti-US hatred, anti-French bigotry, supporter of Chinese communism, married a Chinese government spy, etc ... > an Englishman who knows that the answer to the question "FUNEX?" is > "S,VFX", Stephen Pelc. (or maybe Gerry Jackson) > a Queen who witnessed the birth of Forth, Ms. Rather. > and a number of other queens. So, _YOU_ get to criticize Hugh for being homphobic, while calling others here homosexuals as an insult? WOW! WTF? ... > Other members include the entire Dutch nation, I'm not sure who is Dutch and isn't, but I take it you mean these people: Coos Haak. Albert van der Horst. Hans Bezemer. Lars Brinkhoff. ... > a couple of barking mad 'Murricans, "Americans." You listed me separately. So, I guess I'm not a barking mad American. Note that you listed Hugh separately too ... If Hugh's not the key part of the "barking mad 'Murrican" crowd and I'm not, who is? ... I have to take issue with that though. The people here who *seem* to be Americans to me based on verbiage also *seem* very sane except Hugh or rickman. E.g., these people seem sane and seem to be American: Mark Wills, Paul Rubin, Andrew Haley, JennyB, Ron Aaron, Julian Fondren, Jason Damisch, Josh Grams, Richard Owlett, etc ... So, are you calling them barking mad or just Hugh and rickman? I think the remainder of the "barking mad 'Murricans" you refer to are actually Brits or U.K residents ... s/"a couple of barking mad 'Murricans"/"a bunch of drunk nutjob in the UK"/ > a pitchfork wielding Scotsman I don't know who that is. Is that supposed to be you? Hey, if you want to spend your time standing in the middle of a field at night with a pitchfork while it's pouring rain holding a lantern, like a creepy character in a horror movie, that's your business. > and a few hundred lurkers. Who cares? > WJ: Completely unhinged scribbler of Lisp poetry. > Wonderfully gauche when not scheming. Well, he codes like John Passaniti, but it's Alex Wegel who is emotionally messed up over past Passaniti issues. It's likely JP is posting under multiple aliases ... That would fit his psychopath personality type. > Rod: Lover of C, a venerable lady of great age quite past her prime. What? You mention me in regards to C, but not Paul Rubin? Even Anton Ertl has to use C for gForth. Are you going to bitch at Anton over that decision? ... > Gavino: Forth master, known for his Zen-like questions. > Only appears during the interval. I take it "Forth Master" was deep tongue-in-cheek. You could've said Mentifex where it might've been at least half true, but he has no Zen-like questions. Well, you clearly forgot some of the recurring characters. I keep pointing out your memory issues, but you fail to listen. Anton Ertl, Alex McDonald (you, unless you decided that you're the wierd and creepy Scotsman...), rickman, Mentifex, and apparently the entire Russian nation. Sort your replies some time. It's not just a Dutch nation thing. Of course, I see why you didn't mention rickman since he only discuesses microprocessors and is otherwise ignored. But, most importantly, how could you forget Anton Ertl? Shouldn't he have been "King" to Ms. Rather's "Queen"? And, were you conflating Dutch with Austrian? Seems so ... So, I think you need to rework your post for some *exceptionally* long rudeness this time. Rod Pemberton
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| From | "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> |
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| Date | 2015-07-15 12:09 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <mo5euu$fu3$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #40640 |
on 15/07/2015 05:52:22, "Rod Pemberton" wrote: > On Tue, 14 Jul 2015 15:49:23 -0400, Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> > wrote: > >> To make up for my terse rudeness, here's something a bit longer. > > Long rudeness ... Satirical caricature. It plainly didn't work for you, and probably didn't for others too. That's OK.
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| From | Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-07-15 04:19 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <06aa0dbc-e564-4522-8f1c-05094a8212ff@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #40648 |
On Wednesday, 15 July 2015 12:09:43 UTC+1, Alex McDonald wrote: > on 15/07/2015 05:52:22, "Rod Pemberton" wrote: > > On Tue, 14 Jul 2015 15:49:23 -0400, Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> > > wrote: > > > >> To make up for my terse rudeness, here's something a bit longer. > > > > Long rudeness ... > > Satirical caricature. It plainly didn't work for you, and probably didn't > for others too. That's OK. And, for the record, Mr. Pemberton, I'm English. American. Pfft.
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| From | "Rod Pemberton" <boo@fasdfrewar.cdm> |
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| Date | 2015-07-15 22:10 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <op.x1ugccxvyfako5@localhost> |
| In reply to | #40649 |
On Wed, 15 Jul 2015 07:19:26 -0400, Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> wrote: > And, for the record, Mr. Pemberton, I'm English. > > American. Pfft. You missed the point that Alex was using "Dutch" surnames to declare people to be Dutch. My surname is English, but I'm American. Ditto for all my great grand parents. That's why I emphasized *seems* twice. It's difficult to tell from a surname. One shouldn't assume, as Alex did. Well, your verbiage isn't like most of those in the U.K. You don't use British or Scottish spellings, euphemisms, or slang, e.g., unlike Alex, Stephen, etc. Rod Pemberton -- Scientist now say we'll experience a mini-ice in 2030. So, I guess we need more global warming today ...
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| From | Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-07-16 00:42 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <946b1db5-305b-45bb-8f23-76381caeba6a@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #40670 |
On Thursday, 16 July 2015 03:10:38 UTC+1, Rod Pemberton wrote: > Well, your verbiage isn't like most of those in the U.K. > You don't use British or Scottish spellings, euphemisms, or > slang, e.g., unlike Alex, Stephen, etc. <pout> How dare you sir! Unlike your good self, I can spell colour. I also know my bumpers from your fenders, and my bonnets from your hoods, and my boots from your trunks! And don't get me started on pants. Pah! </pout> :-)
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| From | "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> |
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| Date | 2015-07-16 14:29 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <mo8bhf$u5t$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #40675 |
on 16/07/2015 08:42:43, Mark Wills wrote:
> On Thursday, 16 July 2015 03:10:38 UTC+1, Rod Pemberton wrote:
>> Well, your verbiage isn't like most of those in the U.K.
>> You don't use British or Scottish spellings, euphemisms, or
>> slang, e.g., unlike Alex, Stephen, etc.
>
> <pout>
> How dare you sir! Unlike your good self, I can spell colour.
> I also know my bumpers from your fenders, and my bonnets from
> your hoods, and my boots from your trunks!
> And don't get me started on pants. Pah!
> </pout>
>
>:-)
>
For me, what marks American out from English is not the (to us) archaic
gottens and prudish roosters, but the verbisations; that is, making nouns
serve as verbs. It happens in English ("He trousered/pocketed the money"
for stole), but it is rampant in the US.
My favourite: "... get a bat or a golf club personally signatured...".
Signatured. Instead of signed. Gaaaah. (Another American habit; what's
with the "personally"? Is it in stark contrast to the the presumably
inferior impersonal signature?)
Calvin: I like to verb words.
Hobbes: What?
Calvin: I take nouns and adjectives and use them as verbs. Remember when
"access" was a thing? Now it's something you do. It got verbed... Verbing
weirds language. Hobbes: Maybe we can eventually make language a complete
impediment to understanding.
HT http://grammar.about.com/od/grammarfaq/f/verbingfaq.htm
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| From | Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-07-16 12:52 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <f6aaa1aa-36fc-484b-a764-8e3a6d818b21@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #40685 |
"Maybe we can eventually make language a complete impediment to understanding." Shades of Eric Blair, there. Nicely done!
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| From | "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> |
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| Date | 2015-07-16 09:59 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <mo7rme$8th$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #40670 |
on 16/07/2015 03:10:48, "Rod Pemberton" wrote: > On Wed, 15 Jul 2015 07:19:26 -0400, Mark Wills > <markwills1970@gmail.com> wrote: > >> And, for the record, Mr. Pemberton, I'm English. >> >> American. Pfft. > > You missed the point that Alex was using "Dutch" surnames > to declare people to be Dutch. My surname is English, but > I'm American. Ditto for all my great grand parents. That's > why I emphasized *seems* twice. It's difficult to tell > from a surname. One shouldn't assume, as Alex did. Ah, so you got the joke, then spoiled it by explaining it. > > Well, your verbiage isn't like most of those in the U.K. > You don't use British or Scottish spellings, euphemisms, or > slang, e.g., unlike Alex, Stephen, etc. > > I have a US-based laptop from keyboard thru dammit through to the software. It even tries autocorrecting swear words. Bar steward bar stud bars tarred be are starred. Annoying. > Rod Pemberton >
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| From | Mike Mellen <mmellen@intellikey.com> |
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| Date | 2015-07-15 07:56 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <55A64A5A.7090307@intellikey.com> |
| In reply to | #40648 |
On 7/15/2015 7:09 AM, Alex McDonald wrote: > > Satirical caricature. It plainly didn't work for you, and probably didn't > for others too. That's OK. It worked for me :-) But, when are you going to resolve the cliffhanger?
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| From | "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> |
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| Date | 2015-07-15 16:27 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <mo5u2i$7cv$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #40650 |
on 15/07/2015 12:56:09, Mike Mellen wrote: > On 7/15/2015 7:09 AM, Alex McDonald wrote: >> >> Satirical caricature. It plainly didn't work for you, and probably didn't >> for others too. That's OK. > > It worked for me :-) But, when are you going to resolve the > cliffhanger? > > > > Act 3 ===== [Narrator, unseen but sounds suspiciously like Anton Ertl] They didn't all live happily ever after. Annoyingly, the universe gave up trying to expand any more due to a hole in the fabric of space caused by the Large Hadron Collider running amok after an undeteced overflow in a huge multi terabyte C program and just quit. Hugh and the crowd and everyone in it, including the Forth 201x committee -- even comp.lang.forth -- simply ripped apart and were gone. Poof. Gone. But that was just a beginning, for right at the end the universe shouted "FFS THE ANSWER IS 42. AND I QUIT". And QUIT was the word, and the word was Forth, and Forth pondered itself, and after a timeless period of introspection and metacompiling; only forth also definitions quit And lo, Forth bootstrapped a shiny new universe. ok> But after a while, it wasn't so shiny any more. Hugh was born, grew up, and invented the internet. Hugh: "Look! My quotations are the dog's doughnuts! Fall and worship at my technical genius, you fakers and ANS Forth cultists! See how my FMITE and novice package (everything invented by me, pats pending, copyrights on lists etc) make all others look like amateurs!" Crowd: (all run screaming) "Deja vu! It's happening all over again!" Hugh: "Sodomy! Faggots! SwiftForth is broken! ANS Forth must die!" Rod: "Seriously Hugh, C is so much better." [Curtain falls] THE END
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| From | hughaguilar96@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2015-07-15 10:47 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <b4af2beb-025d-4ac3-ba04-920303ddb532@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #40640 |
On Tuesday, July 14, 2015 at 9:52:13 PM UTC-7, Rod Pemberton wrote: > Hugh Aquilar. > > What? You forgot the can't get a job programming, driving a taxi cab > for a living, his brother is a math god, etc. Rod --- it is very uncool to attack my family (my brother). P.S. Your mother is a whore.
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| From | "Rod Pemberton" <boo@fasdfrewar.cdm> |
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| Date | 2015-07-15 21:50 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <op.x1ufd1zmyfako5@localhost> |
| In reply to | #40660 |
On Wed, 15 Jul 2015 13:47:36 -0400, <hughaguilar96@gmail.com> wrote: > On Tuesday, July 14, 2015 at 9:52:13 PM UTC-7, Rod Pemberton wrote: >> Hugh Aquilar. >> What? You forgot the can't get a job programming, driving a taxi cab >> for a living, his brother is a math god, etc. > > Rod --- it is very uncool to attack my family (my brother). > Where did I attack your brother? Everything there is exactly what you told us. Rod Pemberton -- Scientist now say we'll experience a mini-ice in 2030. So, I guess we need more global warming today ...
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| From | stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) |
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| Date | 2015-07-15 19:38 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <55a6b627.61193685@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #40640 |
On Wed, 15 Jul 2015 00:52:26 -0400, "Rod Pemberton" <boo@fasdfrewar.cdm> wrote: >E.g., these people seem sane and seem to be American: >Mark Wills, Paul Rubin, Andrew Haley, JennyB, Ron Aaron, Julian Fondren, >Jason Damisch, Josh Grams, Richard Owlett, etc Having met them, at least three of these are not American and I strongly suspect that another is not. Stephen -- Stephen Pelc, stephenXXX@mpeforth.com MicroProcessor Engineering Ltd - More Real, Less Time 133 Hill Lane, Southampton SO15 5AF, England tel: +44 (0)23 8063 1441, fax: +44 (0)23 8033 9691 web: http://www.mpeforth.com - free VFX Forth downloads
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| From | hughaguilar96@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2015-07-15 12:58 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <a4e26749-2d46-4926-8204-0d2a0acf7610@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #40665 |
On Wednesday, July 15, 2015 at 12:38:07 PM UTC-7, Stephen Pelc wrote: > On Wed, 15 Jul 2015 00:52:26 -0400, "Rod Pemberton" > <boo@fasdfrewar.cdm> wrote: > > >E.g., these people seem sane and seem to be American: > >Mark Wills, Paul Rubin, Andrew Haley, JennyB, Ron Aaron, Julian Fondren, > >Jason Damisch, Josh Grams, Richard Owlett, etc > > Having met them, at least three of these are not American and I > strongly suspect that another is not. > > Stephen Stephen Pelc is a member of the Forth-200x committee. What I said earlier in regard to the Forth-200x committee was this (replace "Alex McDonald" with "Rod Pemberton" in the following): On Tuesday, July 14, 2015 at 1:39:54 PM UTC-7, hughag...@gmail.com wrote: > The problem I see here is not really Alex McDonald, because trolls have always existed and always will. The problem is a failure of leadership in the Forth community. I think that the Forth-200x committee believe that trolls like Alex are useful so long as they attack people such as Raimond and myself and don't attack ANS-Forth and/or Forth-200x. They believe that they can stand aloof and dodge blame for all of this nastiness because they aren't posting the nastiness themselves, and have effectively kept their hands clean by using a proxy --- they aren't fooling anybody! --- everybody knows that Alex McDonald and John Passaniti are tools of the Forth-200x committee, and that the Forth-200x committee is the engine of corruption on comp.lang.forth.
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| From | "Rod Pemberton" <boo@fasdfrewar.cdm> |
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| Date | 2015-07-15 22:20 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <op.x1ugrrz9yfako5@localhost> |
| In reply to | #40665 |
On Wed, 15 Jul 2015 15:38:07 -0400, Stephen Pelc <stephen@mpeforth.com> wrote: > On Wed, 15 Jul 2015 00:52:26 -0400, "Rod Pemberton" > <boo@fasdfrewar.cdm> wrote: >> E.g., these people seem sane and seem to be American: >> Mark Wills, Paul Rubin, Andrew Haley, JennyB, Ron Aaron, Julian Fondren, >> Jason Damisch, Josh Grams, Richard Owlett, etc > > Having met them, at least three of these are not American and I > strongly suspect that another is not. > It seems you missed the point too. See reply to Mark. RP -- Scientist now say we'll experience a mini-ice in 2030. So, I guess we need more global warming today ...
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| From | Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-07-14 09:53 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <074794ae-df85-4204-9017-ceba890ec6d4@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #40619 |
Yes. I understand that. What I don't understand is what is fake about my implementation. Perhaps you were being tongue-in-cheek. It seems a valid implementation to me.
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