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| Started by | Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> |
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| First post | 2017-04-19 18:32 -0500 |
| Last post | 2017-05-15 12:05 -0500 |
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High level language for writing Forth Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-04-19 18:32 -0500
Re: High level language for writing Forth "Rudy Velthuis" <newsgroups@rvelthuis.de> - 2017-04-20 00:24 +0000
Re: High level language for writing Forth "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2017-04-19 14:42 -1000
Re: High level language for writing Forth Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-04-19 20:33 -0500
Re: High level language for writing Forth "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2017-04-19 16:21 -1000
Re: High level language for writing Forth Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-19 19:41 -0700
Re: High level language for writing Forth Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-04-19 23:28 -0500
Re: High level language for writing Forth "Rudy Velthuis" <newsgroups@rvelthuis.de> - 2017-04-20 17:02 +0000
Re: High level language for writing Forth "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2017-04-20 09:48 -1000
Re: High level language for writing Forth "Rudy Velthuis" <newsgroups@rvelthuis.de> - 2017-04-21 09:42 +0000
Re: High level language for writing Forth Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-04-21 09:07 -0500
Re: High level language for writing Forth Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-04-21 17:04 +0100
Re: High level language for writing Forth Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-04-21 11:17 -0500
Re: High level language for writing Forth Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-04-21 17:36 +0100
Re: High level language for writing Forth "Rudy Velthuis" <newsgroups@rvelthuis.de> - 2017-04-21 20:32 +0000
Re: High level language for writing Forth Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-04-21 15:35 -0500
Re: High level language for writing Forth "Rudy Velthuis" <newsgroups@rvelthuis.de> - 2017-04-21 20:39 +0000
Re: High level language for writing Forth Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-04-21 22:47 +0100
Re: High level language for writing Forth "Rudy Velthuis" <newsgroups@rvelthuis.de> - 2017-04-21 20:29 +0000
Re: High level language for writing Forth Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-04-21 22:45 +0100
Re: High level language for writing Forth "Rudy Velthuis" <newsgroups@rvelthuis.de> - 2017-04-22 04:49 +0000
Re: High level language for writing Forth Jan Coombs <jenfhaomndgfwutc@murmic.plus.com> - 2017-04-22 10:54 +0100
Re: High level language for writing Forth Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2017-04-22 03:04 -0700
Re: High level language for writing Forth Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-04-22 05:12 -0500
Re: High level language for writing Forth lehs <skydda.barnen@gmail.com> - 2017-04-22 04:30 -0700
Re: High level language for writing Forth Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2017-04-22 05:00 -0700
Re: High level language for writing Forth lehs <skydda.barnen@gmail.com> - 2017-04-22 05:40 -0700
Re: High level language for writing [unum] Forth Jan Coombs <jenfhaomndgfwutc@murmic.plus.com> - 2017-04-22 16:51 +0100
Re: High level language for writing [unum] Forth Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-22 13:36 -0700
Re: High level language for writing [unum] Forth Jan Coombs <jenfhaomndgfwutc@murmic.plus.com> - 2017-04-22 22:59 +0100
Re: High level language for writing [unum] Forth Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-22 18:43 -0700
Re: High level language for writing [unum] Forth Jan Coombs <jenfhaomndgfwutc@murmic.plus.com> - 2017-04-23 09:33 +0100
Re: High level language for writing Forth Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-04-22 11:23 -0500
Re: High level language for writing Forth Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2017-04-22 04:59 -0700
Re: High level language for writing Forth "Rudy Velthuis" <newsgroups@rvelthuis.de> - 2017-04-29 03:05 +0000
Re: High level language for writing Forth Jan Coombs <jenfhaomndgfwutc@murmic.plus.com> - 2017-04-29 09:35 +0100
Re: High level language for writing Forth Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-04-22 12:56 +0100
Re: High level language for writing Forth "Rudy Velthuis" <newsgroups@rvelthuis.de> - 2017-04-29 03:08 +0000
Re: High level language for writing Forth Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-04-29 09:46 +0100
Re: High level language for writing Forth lehs <skydda.barnen@gmail.com> - 2017-04-29 02:45 -0700
Re: High level language for writing Forth anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-04-29 13:44 +0000
Re: High level language for writing Forth lehs <skydda.barnen@gmail.com> - 2017-04-29 07:00 -0700
Re: High level language for writing Forth hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-04-29 07:31 -0700
Re: High level language for writing Forth Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-04-29 16:38 +0100
Re: High level language for writing Forth Joel Rees <joel.rees@gmail.com> - 2017-04-29 04:10 -0700
Re: High level language for writing Forth "Rudy Velthuis" <newsgroups@rvelthuis.de> - 2017-04-29 11:35 +0000
Re: High level language for writing Forth Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-04-29 16:33 +0100
Re: High level language for writing Forth "Rudy Velthuis" <newsgroups@rvelthuis.de> - 2017-05-05 15:24 +0000
Re: High level language for writing Forth Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-05-05 20:16 +0100
Re: High level language for writing Forth Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> - 2017-05-05 22:06 +0200
Re: High level language for writing Forth Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-05-05 21:45 +0100
Re: High level language for writing Forth Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-05-05 21:54 +0100
Re: High level language for writing Forth "Rudy Velthuis" <newsgroups@rvelthuis.de> - 2017-05-06 10:06 +0000
Re: High level language for writing Forth Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-05-06 13:09 +0100
Re: High level language for writing Forth anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-05-06 11:04 +0000
Re: High level language for writing Forth "Rudy Velthuis" <newsgroups@rvelthuis.de> - 2017-04-21 20:28 +0000
Re: High level language for writing Forth "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2017-04-21 12:27 -1000
Re: High level language for writing Forth "Rudy Velthuis" <newsgroups@rvelthuis.de> - 2017-04-22 04:55 +0000
Re: High level language for writing Forth Coos Haak <htrofhc@gmail.com> - 2017-04-22 02:01 +0200
Re: High level language for writing Forth "Rudy Velthuis" <newsgroups@rvelthuis.de> - 2017-04-22 04:58 +0000
Re: High level language for writing Forth Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-21 23:41 -0700
Re: High level language for writing Forth Coos Haak <htrofhc@gmail.com> - 2017-04-22 22:15 +0200
Re: High level language for writing Forth "Rudy Velthuis" <newsgroups@rvelthuis.de> - 2017-05-06 13:28 +0000
Re: High level language for writing Forth Joel Rees <joel.rees@gmail.com> - 2017-04-27 02:51 -0700
Re: High level language for writing Forth Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> - 2017-04-27 12:09 +0200
Re: High level language for writing Forth Joel Rees <joel.rees@gmail.com> - 2017-04-29 02:48 -0700
Re: High level language for writing Forth "Rudy Velthuis" <newsgroups@rvelthuis.de> - 2017-04-29 03:09 +0000
Re: High level language for writing Forth Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-04-19 20:11 -0500
Re: High level language for writing Forth Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-19 19:34 -0700
Re: High level language for writing Forth Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-04-19 23:22 -0500
Re: High level language for writing Forth Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-19 21:35 -0700
Re: High level language for writing Forth Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2017-04-20 05:12 +0000
Re: High level language for writing Forth Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-04-20 01:15 -0500
Re: High level language for writing Forth Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-19 23:25 -0700
Re: High level language for writing Forth Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-04-21 23:12 -0500
Re: High level language for writing Forth hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-04-21 21:53 -0700
Re: High level language for writing Forth Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-04-22 00:42 -0500
Re: High level language for writing Forth Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-21 23:44 -0700
Re: High level language for writing Forth Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-04-22 03:08 -0500
Re: High level language for writing Forth Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-04-22 04:39 -0500
Re: High level language for writing Forth Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-04-22 12:37 +0100
Re: High level language for writing Forth Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-04-22 11:33 -0500
Re: High level language for writing Forth Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-04-22 14:10 -0500
Re: High level language for writing Forth hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-04-22 15:01 -0700
Re: High level language for writing Forth Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-04-22 23:38 +0100
Re: High level language for writing Forth Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-04-22 16:30 -0700
Re: High level language for writing Forth hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-04-22 18:01 -0700
Re: High level language for writing Forth Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-04-23 09:25 +0100
Re: High level language for writing Forth Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-04-23 06:32 -0700
Re: High level language for writing Forth Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2017-04-23 07:36 -0700
Re: High level language for writing Forth Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-04-24 14:32 +0100
Re: High level language for writing Forth Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-04-22 18:19 -0500
Re: High level language for writing Forth hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-04-22 18:05 -0700
Re: High level language for writing Forth Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-04-22 21:51 -0500
Re: High level language for writing Forth Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2017-04-23 06:54 +0300
Re: High level language for writing Forth Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-04-23 09:16 +0100
Re: High level language for writing Forth Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2017-04-23 18:41 +0300
Re: High level language for writing Forth Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-04-24 14:35 +0100
Re: High level language for writing Forth Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-04-23 06:15 -0700
Re: High level language for writing Forth Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-04-22 08:04 -0700
Re: High level language for writing Forth Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-04-22 11:44 -0500
Re: High level language for writing Forth Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-04-22 12:16 -0700
Re: High level language for writing Forth Rod Pemberton <NeedNotReplyHere@xrsevnneqk.cem> - 2017-04-22 22:52 -0400
Re: High level language for writing Forth Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2017-04-20 07:49 +0300
Re: High level language for writing Forth albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2017-04-20 19:47 +0200
Re: High level language for writing Forth Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-04-20 15:19 -0500
Re: High level language for writing Forth Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> - 2017-04-20 08:06 +0200
Re: High level language for writing Forth Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-04-20 04:35 -0700
Re: High level language for writing Forth Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-04-25 17:03 -0500
Re: High level language for writing Forth minforth@arcor.de - 2017-04-26 01:58 -0700
Re: High level language for writing Forth Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-05-13 17:36 -0500
Re: High level language for writing Forth hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-05-13 18:37 -0700
Re: High level language for writing Forth Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-05-13 20:52 -0500
Re: High level language for writing Forth hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-05-13 19:25 -0700
Re: High level language for writing Forth hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-05-15 12:44 -0700
Re: High level language for writing Forth Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-05-15 17:27 -0500
Re: High level language for writing Forth hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-05-15 19:43 -0700
Re: High level language for writing Forth Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-05-15 23:55 -0500
Re: High level language for writing Forth Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2017-05-16 01:59 -0700
Re: High level language for writing Forth Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-05-15 23:58 -0500
Re: High level language for writing Forth Joel Rees <joel.rees@gmail.com> - 2017-05-15 07:00 -0700
Re: High level language for writing Forth Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-05-15 12:05 -0500
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| From | Joel Rees <joel.rees@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-05-15 07:00 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <23bad07d-35ad-47fb-b67f-553c694f236c@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #59193 |
On Sunday, May 14, 2017 at 7:36:33 AM UTC+9, Cecil - k5nwa wrote: > On 4/19/2017 6:32 PM, Cecil Bayona wrote: > > I been working on a project using C to create a small Forth VM similar > > to eForth, I have been making progress and soon it will be time to use > > that Forth VM as the core of a complete Forth system. Since the core > > it's written in C and the rest in Forth it should be easy to transport > > to various CPUs. > > > > As a side project I bought some books on Go a system programming > > language and have it setup on my development PC, so I was thinking that > > once the Forth VM in C is tested and working to rewrite the whole thing > > in Go as a Go learning exercise. > > > > I was going to write the whole thing in C++ and even bought a few books > > on C++, about $150 worth but then I rediscovered why I disliked C++ in > > the first place so many years ago so that proved a waste of money. That > > is why I started looking at Go so I could have a more modern language to > > use in writing system software, it has limited Object programming but > > unlike C++ which I dislike. > > > > Go is not available for embedded processors other that ARM but it don't > > see that as a major problem, it is available for all the major OSes like > > Windows. OS X, and a multitude of Linux and other similar OSes like BSD. > > > > I want to learn Go for other uses so the possibility to use something > > else besides Go to write this software such as Forth compilers is a > > possibility. Other options are enhanced Forth like languages such as > > 8th, or oForth. Since Go is somewhat similar to C it's not a stretch to > > rewrite working C code in it. > > > > So, does anyone in the group have experience with Go in writing a Forth > > compiler or other major software or know of links to someone else's work > > on using Go in writing compilers? > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > Well after a bit of planning and documenting what I wanted to do today > was the day to start some of the coding and debugging, then Murphy steps in. > > I powered up the PC that contained all the development software and all > hell broke loose, the anti-virus software started flagging all sorts of > installed software as Malware contaminated (false positives) even after > telling it to skip checking certain directories it still flags some of > the software as Malware and delete it, even though the settings are to > quarantine suspected software. In a short time the machine was a total > wreck with many of the software packages not functional anymore and it > ignoring my request to ignore those software packages. > > As aside on another machine that contained the same software, it thinks > all that software is fine, the difference is that the first machine is > running Windows 7 i386 and the second machine where everything is OK is > Windows 10 X64 PC. > > Several days ago I fired up the machine to make sure all the software > was fine and it reported no problem, today I fire up the same PC and > after an anti-virus update all hell broke loose. The Windows 10 PC had > it's anti-virus software updated also so everything was the same except > for the OS on them. > > Arrg, I hate Windows, all the time it keeps giving more reasons to dump > it and switch to Linux instead. So now instead of starting to write the > software I will need to spend some time checking it out to make sure > everything is working OK on the Windows 10 PC and make sure all the > needed software is installed there. > Possibly your antivirus company in overreaction mode about the current ransomware fires raging? (Evidence why AV is the exact wrong thing to do about malware.) -- Joel Rees Random ranting: http://reiisi.blogspot.com
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| From | Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> |
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| Date | 2017-05-15 12:05 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ofcmv3$4n0$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #59304 |
On 5/15/2017 9:00 AM, Joel Rees wrote: > On Sunday, May 14, 2017 at 7:36:33 AM UTC+9, Cecil - k5nwa wrote: >> On 4/19/2017 6:32 PM, Cecil Bayona wrote: >>> I been working on a project using C to create a small Forth VM similar >>> to eForth, I have been making progress and soon it will be time to use >>> that Forth VM as the core of a complete Forth system. Since the core >>> it's written in C and the rest in Forth it should be easy to transport >>> to various CPUs. >>> >>> As a side project I bought some books on Go a system programming >>> language and have it setup on my development PC, so I was thinking that >>> once the Forth VM in C is tested and working to rewrite the whole thing >>> in Go as a Go learning exercise. >>> >>> I was going to write the whole thing in C++ and even bought a few books >>> on C++, about $150 worth but then I rediscovered why I disliked C++ in >>> the first place so many years ago so that proved a waste of money. That >>> is why I started looking at Go so I could have a more modern language to >>> use in writing system software, it has limited Object programming but >>> unlike C++ which I dislike. >>> >>> Go is not available for embedded processors other that ARM but it don't >>> see that as a major problem, it is available for all the major OSes like >>> Windows. OS X, and a multitude of Linux and other similar OSes like BSD. >>> >>> I want to learn Go for other uses so the possibility to use something >>> else besides Go to write this software such as Forth compilers is a >>> possibility. Other options are enhanced Forth like languages such as >>> 8th, or oForth. Since Go is somewhat similar to C it's not a stretch to >>> rewrite working C code in it. >>> >>> So, does anyone in the group have experience with Go in writing a Forth >>> compiler or other major software or know of links to someone else's work >>> on using Go in writing compilers? >>> >>> Thanks in advance. >>> >> Well after a bit of planning and documenting what I wanted to do today >> was the day to start some of the coding and debugging, then Murphy steps in. >> >> I powered up the PC that contained all the development software and all >> hell broke loose, the anti-virus software started flagging all sorts of >> installed software as Malware contaminated (false positives) even after >> telling it to skip checking certain directories it still flags some of >> the software as Malware and delete it, even though the settings are to >> quarantine suspected software. In a short time the machine was a total >> wreck with many of the software packages not functional anymore and it >> ignoring my request to ignore those software packages. >> >> As aside on another machine that contained the same software, it thinks >> all that software is fine, the difference is that the first machine is >> running Windows 7 i386 and the second machine where everything is OK is >> Windows 10 X64 PC. >> >> Several days ago I fired up the machine to make sure all the software >> was fine and it reported no problem, today I fire up the same PC and >> after an anti-virus update all hell broke loose. The Windows 10 PC had >> it's anti-virus software updated also so everything was the same except >> for the OS on them. >> >> Arrg, I hate Windows, all the time it keeps giving more reasons to dump >> it and switch to Linux instead. So now instead of starting to write the >> software I will need to spend some time checking it out to make sure >> everything is working OK on the Windows 10 PC and make sure all the >> needed software is installed there. >> > > Possibly your antivirus company in overreaction mode about the current ransomware fires raging? (Evidence why AV is the exact wrong thing to do about malware.) > > -- > Joel Rees > > Random ranting: > http://reiisi.blogspot.com > Could be but it only shows up on Windows 7 32 bit machines, Windows 10 64 bit does not have that problem. At this time I blew away the PC and restored Windows 10 X64 so the problem is gone but not all the software that I had on the Windows 7 machine will run on Windows 10 so it's a problem to be solved with a Windows 7 32 bit Virtual PC with no anti-virus or internet access. -- Cecil - k5nwa
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