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Make Forth Small Again!

Started byHelmar Wodtke <helmwo@gmail.com>
First post2017-03-20 09:58 -0700
Last post2017-03-24 17:52 -0700
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  Make Forth Small Again! Helmar Wodtke <helmwo@gmail.com> - 2017-03-20 09:58 -0700
    Re: Make Forth Small Again! Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-20 10:34 -0700
      Re: Make Forth Small Again! Helmar Wodtke <helmwo@gmail.com> - 2017-03-20 10:51 -0700
        Re: Make Forth Small Again! Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-03-20 18:08 +0000
        Re: Make Forth Small Again! NN <november.nihal@gmail.com> - 2017-03-20 12:19 -0700
          Re: Make Forth Small Again! Helmar Wodtke <helmwo@gmail.com> - 2017-03-21 05:51 -0700
            Re: Make Forth Small Again! Coos Haak <htrofhc@gmail.com> - 2017-03-21 15:04 +0100
              Re: Make Forth Small Again! "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2017-03-21 11:22 -1000
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Helmar Wodtke <helmwo@gmail.com> - 2017-03-21 14:47 -0700
                  Re: Make Forth Small Again! Coos Haak <htrofhc@gmail.com> - 2017-03-22 01:34 +0100
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2017-03-25 17:27 +1100
                  Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-25 00:06 -0700
                    Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-25 01:02 -0700
                      Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-25 01:05 -0700
                    Re: Make Forth Small Again! "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2017-03-27 12:11 +1000
                      Re: Make Forth Small Again! "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2017-03-27 15:53 +1000
                      Re: Make Forth Small Again! Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-26 22:12 -0700
                    Re: Make Forth Small Again! "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2017-03-29 10:30 +1000
                  Re: Make Forth Small Again! anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-03-25 09:34 +0000
                    Re: Make Forth Small Again! mhx@iae.nl - 2017-03-25 03:46 -0700
                    Re: Make Forth Small Again! "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2017-03-27 10:56 +1000
                    Re: Make Forth Small Again! "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2017-03-28 10:07 +1000
                      Re: Make Forth Small Again! mhx@iae.nl - 2017-03-27 16:46 -0700
                      Re: Make Forth Small Again! Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-27 18:51 -0700
                        Re: Make Forth Small Again! "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2017-03-27 17:21 -1000
                          Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-28 10:57 -0700
                        Re: Make Forth Small Again! minforth@arcor.de - 2017-03-28 01:16 -0700
                          Re: Make Forth Small Again! Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-03-28 03:36 -0500
                            Re: Make Forth Small Again! minforth@arcor.de - 2017-03-28 01:54 -0700
                              Re: Make Forth Small Again! "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2017-03-28 12:57 -1000
                        Re: Make Forth Small Again! Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-03-28 03:51 -0500
                        Re: Make Forth Small Again! "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2017-03-29 10:29 +1000
        Re: Make Forth Small Again! Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-03-21 03:33 -0500
          Re: Make Forth Small Again! Helmar Wodtke <helmwo@gmail.com> - 2017-03-21 05:17 -0700
            Re: Make Forth Small Again! Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-03-21 09:42 -0500
              Re: Make Forth Small Again! Helmar Wodtke <helmwo@gmail.com> - 2017-03-21 09:49 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-03-21 12:12 -0500
                  Re: Make Forth Small Again! Helmar Wodtke <helmwo@gmail.com> - 2017-03-21 10:28 -0700
              Re: Make Forth Small Again! Rod Pemberton <NeedNotReplyHere@xrsevnneqk.cem> - 2017-03-21 16:43 -0400
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2017-03-21 14:11 -1000
          Re: Make Forth Small Again! anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-03-21 16:46 +0000
            Re: Make Forth Small Again! Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-03-21 12:32 -0500
              Re: Make Forth Small Again! Helmar Wodtke <helmwo@gmail.com> - 2017-03-21 10:57 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-03-21 14:10 -0500
                  Re: Make Forth Small Again! Helmar Wodtke <helmwo@gmail.com> - 2017-03-21 12:50 -0700
                    Re: Make Forth Small Again! Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-03-21 15:29 -0500
                      Re: Make Forth Small Again! Helmar Wodtke <helmwo@gmail.com> - 2017-03-21 14:01 -0700
                        Re: Make Forth Small Again! Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-03-22 03:23 -0500
                    Re: Make Forth Small Again! Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> - 2017-04-07 09:26 +0200
                      Re: Make Forth Small Again! "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2017-04-07 10:10 -1000
                  Re: Make Forth Small Again! Rod Pemberton <NeedNotReplyHere@xrsevnneqk.cem> - 2017-03-21 16:42 -0400
              Re: Make Forth Small Again! anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-03-22 13:10 +0000
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Helmar Wodtke <helmwo@gmail.com> - 2017-03-22 06:38 -0700
                  Re: Make Forth Small Again! anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-03-22 15:24 +0000
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-03-22 08:52 -0500
                  Re: Make Forth Small Again! anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-03-25 13:55 +0000
                    Re: Make Forth Small Again! Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-03-25 17:41 -0500
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-22 07:43 -0700
                  Re: Make Forth Small Again! Helmar Wodtke <helmwo@gmail.com> - 2017-03-22 08:06 -0700
                    Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-22 10:01 -0700
                      Re: Make Forth Small Again! Helmar Wodtke <helmwo@gmail.com> - 2017-03-22 10:19 -0700
                        Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-22 10:59 -0700
                          Re: Make Forth Small Again! Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-03-22 18:31 +0000
                            Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-22 13:55 -0700
                            Re: Make Forth Small Again! Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2017-03-23 05:50 -0700
                              Re: Make Forth Small Again! Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-03-23 08:05 -0500
                                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-03-23 13:47 +0000
                                  Re: Make Forth Small Again! Coos Haak <htrofhc@gmail.com> - 2017-03-23 15:31 +0100
                                  Re: Make Forth Small Again! Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-03-23 10:25 -0500
                                  Re: Make Forth Small Again! anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-03-24 18:07 +0000
                                  Re: Make Forth Small Again! john <anon@example.com> - 2017-05-03 10:45 +0100
                                    Re: Make Forth Small Again! Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2017-05-03 03:50 -0700
                                    Re: Make Forth Small Again! Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-05-03 05:57 -0500
                                      Re: Make Forth Small Again! john <anon@example.com> - 2017-05-03 12:08 +0100
                                        Re: Make Forth Small Again! Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-05-03 12:26 +0100
                                          Re: Make Forth Small Again! john <anon@example.com> - 2017-05-03 16:02 +0100
                                            Re: Make Forth Small Again! Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-05-03 16:08 +0100
                                              Re: Make Forth Small Again! john <anon@example.com> - 2017-05-03 16:35 +0100
                                                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-05-03 18:28 +0100
                                                  Re: Make Forth Small Again! john <anon@example.com> - 2017-05-04 10:14 +0100
                                                    Re: Make Forth Small Again! Coos Haak <htrofhc@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 12:44 +0200
                                                      Re: Make Forth Small Again! john <anon@example.com> - 2017-05-04 12:32 +0100
                                                        Re: Make Forth Small Again! Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-05-04 06:49 -0500
                                                        Re: Make Forth Small Again! crc <charles.childers@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 04:50 -0700
                                                        Re: Make Forth Small Again! Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-05-04 13:14 +0100
                                                          Re: Make Forth Small Again! john <anon@example.com> - 2017-05-05 11:19 +0100
                                                            Re: Make Forth Small Again! Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2017-05-05 04:16 -0700
                                                              Re: Make Forth Small Again! john <anon@example.com> - 2017-05-05 12:35 +0100
                                      Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-05-03 13:55 -0700
                                        Re: Make Forth Small Again! Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-05-03 17:04 -0500
                                          Re: Make Forth Small Again! Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2017-05-04 07:29 +0300
                                          Re: Make Forth Small Again! Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-05-04 02:52 -0500
                                            Re: Make Forth Small Again! Rod Pemberton <NeedNotReplyHere@xrsevnneqk.cem> - 2017-05-04 05:08 -0400
                                              Re: Make Forth Small Again! Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-05-04 06:34 -0500
                                            Re: Make Forth Small Again! Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-05-04 11:17 -0500
                                    Re: Make Forth Small Again! Jan Coombs <jenfhaomndgfwutc@murmic.plus.com> - 2017-05-03 19:03 +0100
                              Re: Make Forth Small Again! anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-03-24 18:12 +0000
                        Re: Make Forth Small Again! anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-03-25 13:49 +0000
                      Re: Make Forth Small Again! Rod Pemberton <NeedNotReplyHere@xrsevnneqk.cem> - 2017-03-23 00:58 -0400
                  Re: Make Forth Small Again! Rod Pemberton <NeedNotReplyHere@xrsevnneqk.cem> - 2017-03-23 00:57 -0400
                    Re: Make Forth Small Again! "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2017-03-22 20:55 -1000
                      Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-23 18:05 -0700
            Re: Make Forth Small Again! rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-03-22 15:57 -0400
              Re: Make Forth Small Again! anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-03-25 10:29 +0000
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2017-03-25 04:00 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-03 08:01 -0400
                  Re: Make Forth Small Again! anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-05-04 16:06 +0000
            Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-22 14:02 -0700
              Re: Make Forth Small Again! Rod Pemberton <NeedNotReplyHere@xrsevnneqk.cem> - 2017-03-23 00:57 -0400
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2017-03-22 20:59 -1000
                  Re: Make Forth Small Again! anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-03-23 12:14 +0000
                    Re: Make Forth Small Again! albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2017-03-23 14:45 +0100
                    Re: Make Forth Small Again! "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2017-03-23 12:24 -1000
                  Re: Make Forth Small Again! "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2017-03-28 10:55 +1000
                    Re: Make Forth Small Again! "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2017-03-27 17:24 -1000
                      Re: Make Forth Small Again! "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2017-03-29 10:49 +1000
                        Re: Make Forth Small Again! "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2017-03-28 15:05 -1000
                          Re: Make Forth Small Again! Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2017-03-28 19:06 -0700
                            Re: Make Forth Small Again! Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2017-03-29 06:43 +0300
                            Re: Make Forth Small Again! "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2017-03-30 10:37 +1000
                              Re: Make Forth Small Again! "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2017-03-29 19:34 -1000
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2017-03-23 10:36 +0000
                  Re: Make Forth Small Again! anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-03-23 11:33 +0000
                    Re: Make Forth Small Again! albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2017-03-23 14:58 +0100
                      Re: Make Forth Small Again! anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-03-24 17:57 +0000
                        Re: Make Forth Small Again! Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-03-24 22:32 +0000
                          Re: Make Forth Small Again! Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2017-03-24 17:10 -0700
                          Re: Make Forth Small Again! anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-03-25 07:31 +0000
          Re: Make Forth Small Again! Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> - 2017-04-07 08:50 +0200
      Re: Make Forth Small Again! rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-03-20 17:57 -0400
        Re: Make Forth Small Again! john <anon@example.com> - 2017-05-03 10:09 +0100
          Re: Make Forth Small Again! Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-05-03 10:28 +0100
          Re: Make Forth Small Again! rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-03 07:57 -0400
          Re: Make Forth Small Again! stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2017-05-03 13:07 +0000
            Re: Make Forth Small Again! john <anon@example.com> - 2017-05-03 16:03 +0100
      Re: Make Forth Small Again! "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2017-03-20 14:08 -1000
        Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-20 17:51 -0700
    Re: Make Forth Small Again! minforth@arcor.de - 2017-03-20 13:12 -0700
    Re: Make Forth Small Again! bruehlconsult@gmail.com - 2017-03-20 17:22 -0700
    Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-20 19:12 -0700
      Re: Make Forth Small Again! Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2017-03-21 02:30 -0700
        Re: Make Forth Small Again! minforth@arcor.de - 2017-03-21 02:47 -0700
        Re: Make Forth Small Again! Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-03-21 05:56 -0500
        Re: Make Forth Small Again! rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-03-21 16:07 -0400
        Re: Make Forth Small Again! "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2017-03-21 14:28 -1000
        Re: Make Forth Small Again! "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2017-03-28 11:30 +1000
      Re: Make Forth Small Again! Rod Pemberton <NeedNotReplyHere@xrsevnneqk.cem> - 2017-03-21 16:42 -0400
    Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-21 22:56 -0700
      Re: Make Forth Small Again! Helmar Wodtke <helmwo@gmail.com> - 2017-03-22 04:04 -0700
        Re: Make Forth Small Again! Rod Pemberton <NeedNotReplyHere@xrsevnneqk.cem> - 2017-03-23 00:57 -0400
    Re: Make Forth Small Again! Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-03-24 02:32 -0700
      Re: Make Forth Small Again! Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-03-24 10:00 +0000
        Re: Make Forth Small Again! Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-03-24 06:46 -0700
          Re: Make Forth Small Again! Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-03-24 14:41 +0000
            Re: Make Forth Small Again! Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-03-25 15:32 -0700
              Re: Make Forth Small Again! Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-03-25 23:10 +0000
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-03-25 17:29 -0700
                  Re: Make Forth Small Again! Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-25 18:08 -0700
                    Re: Make Forth Small Again! Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-03-26 08:30 +0100
                  Re: Make Forth Small Again! Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-03-26 08:50 +0100
                    Re: Make Forth Small Again! Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-03-26 15:14 -0700
                      Re: Make Forth Small Again! Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-03-27 08:32 +0100
                        Re: Make Forth Small Again! Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-03-30 13:21 -0700
                      Re: Make Forth Small Again! Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-03-27 15:31 +0100
                        Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-27 09:04 -0700
                          Re: Make Forth Small Again! Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-03-27 11:52 -0500
                            Re: Make Forth Small Again! Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-03-27 18:41 +0100
                              Re: Make Forth Small Again! Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-03-27 12:58 -0500
                              Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-27 12:07 -0700
                                Re: Make Forth Small Again! foxaudioresearch@gmail.com - 2017-03-27 13:06 -0700
                                  Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-28 11:30 -0700
                                    Re: Make Forth Small Again! Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-03-28 20:06 +0100
                                    Re: Make Forth Small Again! albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2017-03-29 14:54 +0200
                                      Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-30 19:13 -0700
                                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-03-27 21:18 +0100
                                  Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-28 10:54 -0700
                        Re: Make Forth Small Again! Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2017-03-27 21:53 +0300
                          Re: Make Forth Small Again! Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-03-27 22:29 +0100
                        Re: Make Forth Small Again! Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-03-30 14:07 -0700
                          Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-30 16:03 -0700
                            Re: Make Forth Small Again! Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-03-31 09:28 +0100
                            Re: Make Forth Small Again! Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-03-31 03:36 -0700
                              Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-31 19:29 -0700
                                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2017-04-01 04:37 -0700
                                  Re: Make Forth Small Again! Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-01 09:23 -0700
                                    Re: Make Forth Small Again! Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-04-01 10:37 -0700
                                  Re: Make Forth Small Again! Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-04-01 11:55 -0500
                                    Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-04-01 14:15 -0700
                                      Re: Make Forth Small Again! Brad Eckert <hwfwguy@gmail.com> - 2017-05-06 12:55 -0700
                                        Re: Make Forth Small Again! Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-05-07 12:08 +0100
                                          Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-05-07 09:04 -0700
                                  Re: Make Forth Small Again! Coos Haak <htrofhc@gmail.com> - 2017-04-01 21:35 +0200
                                  Re: Make Forth Small Again! Rod Pemberton <NeedNotReplyHere@xrsevnneqk.cem> - 2017-04-01 20:35 -0400
                                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-04-01 11:52 -0700
                                  Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-04-01 16:31 -0700
                                    Re: Make Forth Small Again! Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2017-04-01 20:54 -0700
                                      Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-04-01 21:13 -0700
                                    Re: Make Forth Small Again! Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-04-05 16:06 -0700
                          Re: Make Forth Small Again! Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-03-31 09:42 +0100
                            Re: Make Forth Small Again! Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-03-31 03:52 -0700
                        Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-30 20:26 -0700
                Re: Make Forth Small Again! Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-03-27 04:55 -0500
                  Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-27 08:49 -0700
                  Re: Make Forth Small Again! Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-03-30 13:35 -0700
                    Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-30 14:23 -0700
                    Re: Make Forth Small Again! Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2017-03-30 15:28 -0700
                      Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-30 23:20 -0700
                      Re: Make Forth Small Again! Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-03-31 02:29 -0700
                        Re: Make Forth Small Again! Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2017-03-31 03:20 -0700
                    Re: Make Forth Small Again! Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-03-31 03:38 -0500
      Re: Make Forth Small Again! Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-03-24 09:17 -0500
      Re: Make Forth Small Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-24 17:52 -0700

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#58626

FromCoos Haak <htrofhc@gmail.com>
Date2017-05-04 12:44 +0200
Message-ID<1fffbz49fyto5.3eu5e8rnbkqq$.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#58624
Op Thu, 4 May 2017 10:14:33 +0100 schreef john:

> In article <oed3ps$jg6$1@dont-email.me>, alex@rivadpm.com says...
>> 
>> On 5/3/2017 16:35, john wrote:
>>> In article <oecrjk$luf$1@dont-email.me>, alex@rivadpm.com says...
>>>>
>>>> On 5/3/2017 16:02, john wrote:
>>>>> In article <oecejt$ki3$1@dont-email.me>, alex@rivadpm.com says...
>>>>>> Let's take adding two numbers and overflow. How would you suggest the
>>>>>> standard addresses this requirement you have for the same output from
>>>>>> the same input? Here's a reminder of the problem you face; standards
>>>>>> don't do addition, processors do.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't see your issue.
>>>>> Let me see an example.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You responded to it when I posted it before.
>>>>
>>>> : foo 1+ ;
>>>>
>>>> What should be the output from
>>>>
>>>> 65535 foo .
>>> 
>>> Is "foo" a standard word?
>>> 
>> 
>> No. 1+ is. It adds 1 to the top of the stack. If the definition is 
>> confusing, try this instead. What should the result be?
>> 
>> 65535 1+ .
> 
> Ok now we are talking about something more specific.
> So which standard are you using and what does it say in words and stack
> picture about "1+" ?

You can look it up yourself: 6.1.0290

groet Coos

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#58629

Fromjohn <anon@example.com>
Date2017-05-04 12:32 +0100
Message-ID<MPG.337521a21f6a93de98971d@news.virginmedia.com>
In reply to#58626
In article <1fffbz49fyto5.3eu5e8rnbkqq$.dlg@40tude.net>, htrofhc@gmail.com 
says...

> > 
> > Ok now we are talking about something more specific.
> > So which standard are you using and what does it say in words and stack
> > picture about "1+" ?
> 
> You can look it up yourself: 6.1.0290
> 
> groet Coos

I have no idea what 6.1.0290 means

If you have a real issue - state the issue.
If it's better described online post the link and point out
where in the link your issue is and what the problem is.
 6.1.0290

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#58633

FromAndrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid>
Date2017-05-04 06:49 -0500
Message-ID<QdadnfHCdZjciJbEnZ2dnUU7-cXNnZ2d@supernews.com>
In reply to#58629
john <anon@example.com> wrote:
> In article <1fffbz49fyto5.3eu5e8rnbkqq$.dlg@40tude.net>, htrofhc@gmail.com 
> says...
> 
>> > Ok now we are talking about something more specific.
>> > So which standard are you using and what does it say in words and stack
>> > picture about "1+" ?
>> 
>> You can look it up yourself: 6.1.0290
>> 
>> groet Coos
> 
> I have no idea what 6.1.0290 means
> 
> If you have a real issue - state the issue.
> If it's better described online post the link and point out
> where in the link your issue is and what the problem is.
> 6.1.0290

So, you are arguing about Forth standardization but have never read
the Forth standard.

6.1.0290 says:

   1+  "one-plus"  CORE
      ( n1 | u1 -- n2 | u2 )
      Add one (1) to n1 | u1 giving the sum n2 | u2.

3.2.2.2, which is the relevant language here, says:

In all integer arithmetic operations, both overflow and underflow
shall be ignored. The value returned when either overflow or underflow
occurs is implementation defined.

Andrew.


http://www.forth200x.org/documents/forth-2012.pdf

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#58634

Fromcrc <charles.childers@gmail.com>
Date2017-05-04 04:50 -0700
Message-ID<383f0d7f-8041-4b27-bef7-bf05d147db29@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#58629
On Thursday, May 4, 2017 at 7:33:01 AM UTC-4, john wrote:

> > > 
> > > Ok now we are talking about something more specific.
> > > So which standard are you using and what does it say in words and stack
> > > picture about "1+" ?
> > 
> > You can look it up yourself: 6.1.0290
> > 
> > groet Coos
> 
> I have no idea what 6.1.0290 means
> 
> If you have a real issue - state the issue.
> If it's better described online post the link and point out
> where in the link your issue is and what the problem is.
>  6.1.0290
> 
> -- 
> 
> john
> 
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> 
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6.1.0290 is the part of the ANS standard covering 1+.

    6.1.0290 1+ “one-plus” CORE

     ( n1|u1 -- n2|u2 )

    Add one (1) to n1|u1 giving the sum n2|u2. 

(See http://forthworks.com/forth/standards/DPANS/DPANS.pdf)

-- crc

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#58640

FromAlex <alex@rivadpm.com>
Date2017-05-04 13:14 +0100
Message-ID<oef5o8$ft7$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#58629
On 5/4/2017 12:32, john wrote:
> In article <1fffbz49fyto5.3eu5e8rnbkqq$.dlg@40tude.net>, htrofhc@gmail.com
> says...
> 
>>>
>>> Ok now we are talking about something more specific.
>>> So which standard are you using and what does it say in words and stack
>>> picture about "1+" ?
>>
>> You can look it up yourself: 6.1.0290
>>
>> groet Coos
> 
> I have no idea what 6.1.0290 means
> 
> If you have a real issue - state the issue.
> If it's better described online post the link and point out
> where in the link your issue is and what the problem is.
>   6.1.0290
> 

But you were complaining about the Forth standard. You even said;

>> An example.
>>
>> : FOO 1+ ;
>>
>> is a ANS standard program, but you may get different results on 
>> different systems when you type 65535 FOO .
>>
>> The value returned when either overflow or underflow occurs is 
>> implementation defined.
>>
> 
> Which is a very good point (at last) Alex.
> Unlike the vast majority of "suggestions" in this group , this
> is something a standards comittee should be correcting.
> (in this case as a matter of urgency if such issue exists)
> 
> If you get a differing result from the same code you don't have 
> a standard system at all - regardless of implementation or hardware.
> 
> The only thing totally unaceptable  from a standard  is a different output from the 
> same input. 
> 
> The rest (as mr. siska says)  is gossip.

Since you're too lazy to remember your own posts, I don't hold out any 
great hope of having a sensible conversation.

Here; http://forth-standard.org/ It's even searchable.

-- 
Alex

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#58692

Fromjohn <anon@example.com>
Date2017-05-05 11:19 +0100
Message-ID<MPG.33766211d86bc95b98971e@news.virginmedia.com>
In reply to#58640
In article <oef5o8$ft7$3@dont-email.me>, alex@rivadpm.com says...

> > 
> > The only thing totally unaceptable  from a standard  is a different output from the 
> > same input. 
> > 
> > The rest (as mr. siska says)  is gossip.
> 
> Since you're too lazy to remember your own posts, I don't hold out any 
> great hope of having a sensible conversation.


If you are going to make statements such as you did you must provide
the full details of your problem if you wish to be taken seriously.

A task you have still failed to perform.

After wasting my time searching out your link this is what I found 
the specific standard
you are complaining about says - cut and paste:

"( n1 | u1 -- n2 | u2 )

Add one (1) to n1 | u1 giving the sum n2 | u2.  "

Which is what you should have simply posted to argue your point.

Applying your apparent complaint of what happens when you do
66635 1+ because "standards don't do math" I see no issue.
  
The standard you are using is perfectly clear and consistent. 

Any input will produce the same output if the standard is complied with
therefore my own statement holds true in this instance.
Unless you are suggesting 0 or whatever is unacceptable as a result.

(I assumed you are talking about rollovers - I have to assume because you also
ommited to point out you probably  were thinking about 16 bit systems.)
 
If you are suggesting that the standard should take a particular action on rollover
that would be a very different issue - and a suggestion not a complaint.
(One I would not support incidently) 

The empty headed rants in this group about standards from people who clearly
dont need or use them is pointless noise.

The only time to even think about a formal standard is if you are writing to be 
compliant or you are writing the standard - or possibly making a well thought out 
and documented suggestion.

But please if you see something about 65535 1+ that violates the stack diagram 
above let me know. 

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#58694

FromJulian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com>
Date2017-05-05 04:16 -0700
Message-ID<72e6863c-e0ab-48c4-9aa5-10eddc6ecd85@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#58692
On Friday, May 5, 2017 at 5:20:08 AM UTC-5, john wrote:
> If you are going to make statements such as you did you must provide
> the full details of your problem if you wish to be taken seriously.

Well that's a claim. Here's another: your ANS hostility is baby-level
and pathetic. It is so bad it actually comes off as insincere, as an
opinion you've adopted for social purposes and not because you arrived
at it intellectually. I stopped taking it seriously way back at
"extension wordlists break standards."

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#58696

Fromjohn <anon@example.com>
Date2017-05-05 12:35 +0100
Message-ID<MPG.337673ce3e630286989720@news.virginmedia.com>
In reply to#58694
In article <72e6863c-e0ab-48c4-9aa5-10eddc6ecd85@googlegroups.com>, 
julian.fondren@gmail.com says...
> 
> On Friday, May 5, 2017 at 5:20:08 AM UTC-5, john wrote:
> > If you are going to make statements such as you did you must provide
> > the full details of your problem if you wish to be taken seriously.
> 
> Well that's a claim. Here's another: your ANS hostility is baby-level
> and pathetic. It is so bad it actually comes off as insincere, as an
> opinion you've adopted for social purposes and not because you arrived
> at it intellectually. I stopped taking it seriously way back at
> "extension wordlists break standards."

And you seem to be very confused. 
The quote you provide doesn't even apply to your odd attack.

I have no interest in ANS one way or another and have never said I have.

Nor do I recall ever mentioning wordlists breaking standards.
(It does sound like an odd thing to say I agree)

If you are going to make such accusations please provide the reference link
so people can see what you are actually talking about.

I suspect you have me confused with someone else.


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#58613

Fromhughaguilar96@gmail.com
Date2017-05-03 13:55 -0700
Message-ID<396de0b0-cd99-4bbe-9090-a44839dff2ea@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#58573
On Wednesday, May 3, 2017 at 3:57:47 AM UTC-7, Andrew Haley wrote:
> john <anon@example.com> wrote:
> > 
> > If you get a differing result from the same code you don't have 
> > a standard system at all - regardless of implementation or hardware.
> > 
> > The only thing totally unaceptable from a standard is a different
> > output from the same input.
> 
> I think you don't really get this standardization thing.

Andrew Haley was appointed to the Forth-200x committee by Elizabeth Rather because he taught the novice-class at Forth Inc. --- he really doesn't "get this standardization thing" --- he is just loyal to Elizabeth Rather, and she is okay with ambiguity, so he is okay with ambiguity too.

All of the Forth-200x committee members were appointed by Elizabeth Rather --- all of them are okay with ambiguity --- Stephen Pelc, for example, refuses to acknowledge the existence of my disambiguifiers for FIND and insists that it is okay for FIND in VFX to be incompatible with FIND in SwiftForth and incompatible (in a different way) with FIND in gForth.

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#58614

FromCecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com>
Date2017-05-03 17:04 -0500
Message-ID<oedk02$gae$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#58613
On 5/3/2017 3:55 PM, hughaguilar96@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 3, 2017 at 3:57:47 AM UTC-7, Andrew Haley wrote:
>> john <anon@example.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> If you get a differing result from the same code you don't have
>>> a standard system at all - regardless of implementation or hardware.
>>>
>>> The only thing totally unaceptable from a standard is a different
>>> output from the same input.
>>
>> I think you don't really get this standardization thing.
> 
> Andrew Haley was appointed to the Forth-200x committee by Elizabeth Rather because he taught the novice-class at Forth Inc. --- he really doesn't "get this standardization thing" --- he is just loyal to Elizabeth Rather, and she is okay with ambiguity, so he is okay with ambiguity too.
> 
> All of the Forth-200x committee members were appointed by Elizabeth Rather --- all of them are okay with ambiguity --- Stephen Pelc, for example, refuses to acknowledge the existence of my disambiguifiers for FIND and insists that it is okay for FIND in VFX to be incompatible with FIND in SwiftForth and incompatible (in a different way) with FIND in gForth.
> 
Contrary to the belief expressed here on this list a good part of a 
standard is to eliminate ambiguity, but not in Forth where ambiguity is 
a welcomed feature, no wonder Forth is looked down upon by most 
programmers that know anything about it. But can one expect when 
marketing people are in charge of the process.

-- 
Cecil - k5nwa

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#58615

FromRon Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com>
Date2017-05-04 07:29 +0300
Message-ID<oeeahc$vs2$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#58614

On 05/04/17 01:04, Cecil Bayona wrote:

> Contrary to the belief expressed here on this list a good part of a
> standard is to eliminate ambiguity, but not in Forth where ambiguity is
> a welcomed feature...

No, a standard's purpose is to standardize.  Ambiguity in some respects
may simply be codified in the standard.  For example...

The "C" standard doesn't say what the size of an integer must be.
That's turned out to be an issue of varying levels of importance through
the years, but the "C" standard makes integer size *implementation
defined*.  That is, "ambiguous".

So, is "C" a language which welcomes ambiguity?  If so, it's certainly
done well for itself.

Standards which are established after a language has already gained a
foothold and has disparate implementations, will often have plenty of
these kinds of "grey areas".  Forth is not unique in this regard.

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#58622

FromAndrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid>
Date2017-05-04 02:52 -0500
Message-ID<kOSdnS7PQK1YQJfEnZ2dnUU7-IOdnZ2d@supernews.com>
In reply to#58614
Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> wrote:

> Contrary to the belief expressed here on this list a good part of a
> standard is to eliminate ambiguity, but not in Forth where ambiguity
> is a welcomed feature, no wonder Forth is looked down upon by most
> programmers that know anything about it. But can one expect when
> marketing people are in charge of the process.

What does this word salad mean?

Andrew.

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#58623

FromRod Pemberton <NeedNotReplyHere@xrsevnneqk.cem>
Date2017-05-04 05:08 -0400
Message-ID<20170504050857.0b544553@_>
In reply to#58622
On Thu, 04 May 2017 02:52:37 -0500
Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> wrote:

> Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> wrote:

> > Contrary to the belief expressed here on this list a good part of a
> > standard is to eliminate ambiguity, but not in Forth where ambiguity
> > is a welcomed feature, no wonder Forth is looked down upon by most
> > programmers that know anything about it. But can one expect when
> > marketing people are in charge of the process.  
> 
> What does this word salad mean?
> 

He said that the purpose of a language standard is to eliminate
ambiguity, i.e., to define things.  Except, marketers were involved in
the Forth standard.  So, the process was corrupted and this failed to
happen, i.e., not much was defined resulting in ambiguity.  Also,
Forthers prefer Forth because of it's ambiguity.  This is what some
would call cryptic, write once, lacking syntax, etc.  Therefore, the
Forth standard has extra ambiguity over and above that of any other
programming standard in existence.  It's this excessive abundance of
ambiguity which drives people away from Forth.

I.e., the Forth standard is completely nuts, and the language drives
people insane.  E.g., Forther - see "insane nutjob."

Now, you've got to admit that's a somewhat funny moniker as it fits in
nicely with the newly suggested squirrel mascot for Forth.  Squirrels -
given their love of tree nuts - are a bunch of "nutjobs."


Rod Pemberton
-- 
"Well, many people are really f---ing stupid too.  Should we just adopt
all their standards?" - George Carlin

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#58630

FromAndrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid>
Date2017-05-04 06:34 -0500
Message-ID<L56dnS6J1s9ajJbEnZ2dnUU7-VPNnZ2d@supernews.com>
In reply to#58623
Rod Pemberton <NeedNotReplyHere@xrsevnneqk.cem> wrote:
> On Thu, 04 May 2017 02:52:37 -0500
> Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> wrote:
> 
>> > Contrary to the belief expressed here on this list a good part of
>> > a standard is to eliminate ambiguity, but not in Forth where
>> > ambiguity is a welcomed feature, no wonder Forth is looked down
>> > upon by most programmers that know anything about it. But can one
>> > expect when marketing people are in charge of the process.
>> 
>> What does this word salad mean?
> 
> He said that the purpose of a language standard is to eliminate
> ambiguity, i.e., to define things.  Except, marketers were involved in
> the Forth standard.

I think it says "in charge of".  But either way, it isn't true:
marketers have been conspicuously absent in Forth.

> So, the process was corrupted and this failed to happen, i.e., not
> much was defined resulting in ambiguity.  Also, Forthers prefer
> Forth because of it's ambiguity.

By BS meter just pegged at the red line.  And even if marketers had
been in charge, it doesn't follow that they would want ambiguity.

> This is what some would call cryptic, write once, lacking syntax,
> etc.  Therefore, the Forth standard has extra ambiguity over and
> above that of any other programming standard in existence.  It's
> this excessive abundance of ambiguity which drives people away from
> Forth.
> 
> I.e., the Forth standard is completely nuts, and the language drives
> people insane.  E.g., Forther - see "insane nutjob."

Hmm.  From falsehood, anything follows.

Andrew.

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#58671

FromCecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com>
Date2017-05-04 11:17 -0500
Message-ID<oefk1b$8aq$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#58622
On 5/4/2017 2:52 AM, Andrew Haley wrote:
> Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> wrote:
> 
>> Contrary to the belief expressed here on this list a good part of a
>> standard is to eliminate ambiguity, but not in Forth where ambiguity
>> is a welcomed feature, no wonder Forth is looked down upon by most
>> programmers that know anything about it. But can one expect when
>> marketing people are in charge of the process.
> 
> What does this word salad mean?
> 
> Andrew.
> 

That word is not in my reply so try something else. I would guess a 
salad is something you get when a group of people are trying to please 
everyone so they include all sorts of items that may even clash with one 
another.

-- 
Cecil - k5nwa

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#58606

FromJan Coombs <jenfhaomndgfwutc@murmic.plus.com>
Date2017-05-03 19:03 +0100
Message-ID<20170503190319.27001d07@t530.lan>
In reply to#58567
On Wed, 3 May 2017 10:45:09 +0100
john <anon@example.com> wrote:
> 
> If you get a differing result from the same code you don't
> have a standard system at all - regardless of implementation
> or hardware.
> 
> The only thing totally unaceptable  from a standard  is a
> different output from the same input. 

 IEE754 ? 

Jan Coombs
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#56234

Fromanton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl)
Date2017-03-24 18:12 +0000
Message-ID<2017Mar24.191244@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at>
In reply to#56173
Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> writes:
>On Wednesday, 22 March 2017 18:31:09 UTC, Alex  wrote:
>> On 3/22/2017 17:59, hughaguilar96@gmail.com wrote:
>> > Because of the multiple ambiguities in ANS-Forth, there is a lot of
>> > elbow-room --- many Forth systems can be 100% compliant with
>> > ANS-Forth --- they aren't compatible with each other though.

The standard defines an interface between programs and systems.  So, a
standard program has to be compatible with a standard system.  Talking
about compatibility between systems makes no sense.

>> If a program is written to meet the ANS standard, then a system that is 
>> ANS standard compliant will be able to run it.
>
>Yeah, but if you run that same source code on two different (compliant)
>systems and get different results, which one is wrong?

The program may be non-standard.  In this case, the standard does not
guarantee a particular behaviour by the system.  E.g., the program may
use a word that exists only in one system, and other systems produce
an error when loading it.

- anton
-- 
M. Anton Ertl  http://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/anton/home.html
comp.lang.forth FAQs: http://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/forth/faq/toc.html
     New standard: http://www.forth200x.org/forth200x.html
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#56275

Fromanton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl)
Date2017-03-25 13:49 +0000
Message-ID<2017Mar25.144957@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at>
In reply to#56122
Helmar Wodtke <helmwo@gmail.com> writes:
>DPANS94 is the most recent ve=
>rsion

Forth-2012 is more recent.

>- and the first without implementation. I'd claim there is no 100% DP=
>ANS94 compliant Forth ;) Except HelFORTH ;)

So there is, even in your opinion.  In practice, I miss the things
that have not been standardized more than any non-compliance that may
exist in systems.

- anton
-- 
M. Anton Ertl  http://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/anton/home.html
comp.lang.forth FAQs: http://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/forth/faq/toc.html
     New standard: http://www.forth200x.org/forth200x.html
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#56161

FromRod Pemberton <NeedNotReplyHere@xrsevnneqk.cem>
Date2017-03-23 00:58 -0400
Message-ID<20170323005811.7acd22c7@_>
In reply to#56121
On Wed, 22 Mar 2017 10:01:05 -0700 (PDT)
hughaguilar96@gmail.com wrote:

> On Wednesday, March 22, 2017 at 8:06:23 AM UTC-7, Helmar Wodtke wrote:

> Just define QUIT as being a word that restarts the REPL and restores
> the Forth system to a rational state, and stores the state prior to
> the quit in a struct (also defined).
> 
> Also, define QUIT as being deferred and define <QUIT> as doing what
> QUIT does and being the default action of the QUIT vector. The user
> can then define his own version of QUIT that calls <QUIT> but also
> does what he wants. The user can define a new struct that is a child
> class of the struct that <QUIT> uses --- his version of QUIT will use
> this child struct so it can save his important global variables in
> addition to the global variables that <QUIT> saves.
> 

If ANS is pile of crap as you say, then making QUIT correctly
functional for ANS and also using "ambiquifiers" to correctly implement
ANS is just you wasting time polishing a turd.  Therefore, you have no
cause to rant about ANS being a turd since you've already proclaimed
ANS to be crap.  Please top wasting your time and ours on ANS if you
don't like ANS.


Rod Pemberton
-- 
All it takes for humanity to conquer the world's toughest problems
is to hope, to believe, to share, and to do, in cooperation.

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#56158

FromRod Pemberton <NeedNotReplyHere@xrsevnneqk.cem>
Date2017-03-23 00:57 -0400
Message-ID<20170323005742.1e342c5a@_>
In reply to#56114
On Wed, 22 Mar 2017 07:43:26 -0700 (PDT)
hughaguilar96@gmail.com wrote:

> On Wednesday, March 22, 2017 at 6:13:59 AM UTC-7, Anton Ertl wrote:

> When QUIT executes (typically when ABORT or ABORT" call it), QUIT
> fails to restore the system to a known state. 1.) BASE still has the
> value that it had prior to the abort. 2.) The search-order is the
> same as it was prior to the abort. 3.) The current word-list is the
> same as it was prior to the abort.

...

> The intelligent design for a Forth system would be for QUIT to
> restore global variables (such as BASE the search-order, etc.) that
> describe the state of the Forth system.

Since QUIT is usually the first word executed, why wouldn't QUIT do
this already?


Rod Pemberton
-- 
All it takes for humanity to conquer the world's toughest problems
is to hope, to believe, to share, and to do, in cooperation.

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