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Dropbox rant

Started byMark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com>
First post2017-04-22 11:24 -0700
Last post2017-04-30 08:42 +0300
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  Dropbox rant Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2017-04-22 11:24 -0700
    Re: Dropbox rant Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-04-22 13:50 -0500
      Re: Dropbox rant Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-04-23 04:50 -0500
        Re: Dropbox rant Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2017-04-23 06:58 -0700
          Re: Dropbox rant foxaudioresearch@gmail.com - 2017-04-24 18:06 -0700
            Re: Dropbox rant Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 20:30 -0700
              Re: Dropbox rant foxaudioresearch@gmail.com - 2017-04-24 22:02 -0700
                Re: Dropbox rant "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2017-04-24 21:52 -1000
                Re: Dropbox rant Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2017-04-25 16:38 -0700
                  Re: Dropbox rant hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-04-25 16:55 -0700
              Re: Dropbox rant Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2017-05-28 17:50 -0700
            Re: Dropbox rant "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2017-04-24 21:26 -1000
              Re: Dropbox rant john <anon@example.com> - 2017-04-25 10:22 +0100
                Re: Dropbox rant lehs <skydda.barnen@gmail.com> - 2017-04-25 04:14 -0700
                Re: Dropbox rant hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-04-25 11:25 -0700
                  Re: Dropbox rant Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-04-26 15:57 +0100
                    Re: Dropbox rant Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2017-04-26 18:41 +0300
                      Re: Dropbox rant Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-04-26 17:59 +0100
                        Re: Dropbox rant Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2017-04-26 21:38 +0300
                          Re: Dropbox rant rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-04-26 17:48 -0400
                      Re: Dropbox rant hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-04-26 12:42 -0700
                        Re: Dropbox rant Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2017-04-27 06:57 +0300
                          Re: Dropbox rant hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-04-26 21:20 -0700
                            OT: Hugh's in need of help (was Re: Dropbox rant) Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2017-04-27 07:45 +0300
                              Re: OT: Hugh's in need of help (was Re: Dropbox rant) rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-04-27 01:31 -0400
                                Re: OT: Hugh's in need of help (was Re: Dropbox rant) Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2017-04-27 08:43 +0300
                                  Re: OT: Hugh's in need of help (was Re: Dropbox rant) rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-04-27 01:56 -0400
                                  Re: OT: Hugh's in need of help (was Re: Dropbox rant) hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-04-27 13:17 -0700
                                    Re: OT: Hugh's in need of help (was Re: Dropbox rant) rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-04-27 16:31 -0400
                                    Re: OT: Hugh's in need of help (was Re: Dropbox rant) Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2017-04-28 07:48 +0300
                                  Re: OT: Hugh's in need of help (was Re: Dropbox rant) Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2017-04-28 10:22 +0300
                                    Re: OT: Hugh's in need of help (was Re: Dropbox rant) "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2017-04-30 11:09 +1000
                                      Re: OT: Hugh's in need of help (was Re: Dropbox rant) hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-04-29 21:52 -0700
                                        Re: OT: Hugh's in need of help (was Re: Dropbox rant) Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2017-04-30 08:24 +0300
                                          Re: OT: Hugh's in need of help (was Re: Dropbox rant) rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-04-30 01:54 -0400
                                            Re: OT: Hugh's in need of help (was Re: Dropbox rant) Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2017-04-30 09:04 +0300
                                              Re: OT: Hugh's in need of help (was Re: Dropbox rant) rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-04-30 02:19 -0400
                                                Re: OT: Hugh's in need of help (was Re: Dropbox rant) lehs <skydda.barnen@gmail.com> - 2017-04-30 00:41 -0700
                                                  Re: OT: Hugh's in need of help (was Re: Dropbox rant) Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2017-04-30 11:01 +0300
                                                    Re: OT: Hugh's in need of help (was Re: Dropbox rant) lehs <skydda.barnen@gmail.com> - 2017-04-30 01:24 -0700
                                                    Re: OT: Hugh's in need of help (was Re: Dropbox rant) Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2017-04-30 03:33 -0700
                                                      Re: OT: Hugh's in need of help (was Re: Dropbox rant) jenfhaomndgfwutc@murmic.plus.com - 2017-04-30 16:19 +0100
                                                      Re: OT: Hugh's in need of help (was Re: Dropbox rant) Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-04-30 16:46 -0500
                                                      Re: Dropbox rant "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2017-05-02 11:33 +1000
                                      Back on-topic: what attracted you to Forth?' (was: OT: Hugh's in need of help ...) Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2017-04-30 08:42 +0300

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#58390 — Re: OT: Hugh's in need of help (was Re: Dropbox rant)

FromMark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com>
Date2017-04-30 03:33 -0700
SubjectRe: OT: Hugh's in need of help (was Re: Dropbox rant)
Message-ID<a24614e2-e992-4b52-8c90-013dcd86c8cc@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#58383
Meanwhile Dropbox on my Wintel still requires one hundred thousand kilobytes of my RAM to sit there in the background and do nothing. 

Just let that sink in for a minute. 

How is this progress? 

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#58407 — Re: OT: Hugh's in need of help (was Re: Dropbox rant)

Fromjenfhaomndgfwutc@murmic.plus.com
Date2017-04-30 16:19 +0100
SubjectRe: OT: Hugh's in need of help (was Re: Dropbox rant)
Message-ID<20170430161935.06dbd15c@t530.lan>
In reply to#58390
On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 03:33:35 -0700 (PDT)
Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> wrote:

> Meanwhile Dropbox on my Wintel still requires one hundred
> thousand kilobytes of my RAM to sit there in the background
> and do nothing. 

Perhaps the gov is looking for aunty steamitic stuff in your
files?  

My new (3yr old) turned-off laptop gets wakes up and gets
busy in the middle of the night if I leave the ethernet
plugged in. 

Jan, but preferably a different one.

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#58422 — Re: OT: Hugh's in need of help (was Re: Dropbox rant)

FromCecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com>
Date2017-04-30 16:46 -0500
SubjectRe: OT: Hugh's in need of help (was Re: Dropbox rant)
Message-ID<oe5lpt$501$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#58390
On 4/30/2017 5:33 AM, Mark Wills wrote:
> Meanwhile Dropbox on my Wintel still requires one hundred thousand kilobytes of my RAM to sit there in the background and do nothing.
> 
> Just let that sink in for a minute.
> 
> How is this progress?
> 

Then remove the software, the world can continue existing without that 
product.

-- 
Cecil - k5nwa

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#58461

From"HAA" <someone@microsoft.com>
Date2017-05-02 11:33 +1000
Message-ID<oe8nkn$128g$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#58390
Mark Wills wrote:
> Meanwhile Dropbox on my Wintel still requires one hundred thousand kilobytes of my RAM
> to sit there in the background and do nothing.
>
> Just let that sink in for a minute.
>
> How is this progress?

Who said it was progress?  It's a consumption model similar to the one which
postulates infinite growth on a finite planet.


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#58378 — Back on-topic: what attracted you to Forth?' (was: OT: Hugh's in need of help ...)

FromRon Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com>
Date2017-04-30 08:42 +0300
SubjectBack on-topic: what attracted you to Forth?' (was: OT: Hugh's in need of help ...)
Message-ID<oe3tau$kn0$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#58371
On 04/30/17 04:09, HAA wrote:
> Ron Aaron wrote:
>> Among the Jewish population, only 44% identify as "secular or
>> non-religious", which surprises me -- it's always been more than 50%
>> (and in the past, considerably more).

> I'd say what's being reported is the willingness or otherwise of citizens to
> publicly express a position, and that's going to be influenced by external
> factors.  A 'secular or non-religious' doesn't suddenly 'get religion'.

Maybe, but it's the same polling body with the same polling methodology.
 Not that it matters too much: as you say, people may answer what they
feel is safe to answer.

>> Still off-topic for the group, though...
> 
> Easily remedied e.g. 'What attracted you to Forth - circumstance or disposition?' :)

:)

I'm not sure that binary choice is really it.  Something of a
combination, I would say.

I first got interested in Forth when I was looking for a small
interpreter to insert into a project.  I did a lot of research, and
found that Forth was (at the time, anyway) about as small an interpreter
as I could get away with and have the functionality I needed.  This was
for an employer's product, "back in the day".

Having been intrigued by Forth and finding it useful, I messed around
with Win32Forth and some others.  Then I stumbled upon RetroForth.

At that point, I decided I wanted a small and fast Forth, so I asked C.
Childers (the RetroForth author) if I could fork his assembly version of
RF. He said I could take it over altogether, and so the very first
version of "Reva Forth" was born.  Reva quickly diverged from RF, but
they continued to borrow from each other for a while.

That was an interesting project.  I got to work in ASM and Forth, which
satisfied my low-level disposition.  But circumstances overtook me, and
Reva lay fallow (from my perspective, anyway; others have apparently
forked or derived from it).

Some time later, I wanted a cross-platform language for a crypto-based
project.  I had some stringent security concerns, and wasn't happy with
any of the alternatives.  Remembering the fun I had with Reva, I took
some of its ideas (and none of its code) to make 8th.

To answer the question: for me, it's both :)

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