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| Started by | Stephen Walters Esq <mister35mm@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2017-03-14 14:41 -0700 |
| Last post | 2017-03-17 11:56 -0700 |
| Articles | 12 on this page of 32 — 14 participants |
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Moderated FORTH group on Facebook. Stephen Walters Esq <mister35mm@gmail.com> - 2017-03-14 14:41 -0700
Re: Moderated FORTH group on Facebook. hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-14 16:15 -0700
Re: Moderated FORTH group on Facebook. hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-14 17:49 -0700
Re: Moderated FORTH group on Facebook. mister35mm@gmail.com - 2017-03-14 22:55 -0700
Re: Moderated FORTH group on Facebook. rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-03-15 03:30 -0400
Re: Moderated FORTH group on Facebook. Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-15 01:13 -0700
Re: Moderated FORTH group on Facebook. Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-03-15 04:11 -0500
Re: Moderated FORTH group on Facebook. john <anon@example.com> - 2017-03-15 09:24 +0000
Re: Moderated FORTH group on Facebook. Coos Haak <htrofhc@gmail.com> - 2017-03-15 16:10 +0100
Re: Moderated FORTH group on Facebook. NN <november.nihal@gmail.com> - 2017-03-15 09:06 -0700
Re: Moderated FORTH group on Facebook. peter.m.falth@gmail.com - 2017-03-15 09:32 -0700
Re: Moderated FORTH group on Facebook. Coos Haak <htrofhc@gmail.com> - 2017-03-15 21:58 +0100
Re: Moderated FORTH group on Facebook. Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2017-03-15 10:42 -0700
Re: Moderated FORTH group on Facebook. Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-03-15 12:48 -0500
Re: Moderated FORTH group on Facebook. john <anon@example.com> - 2017-03-15 19:52 +0000
Re: Moderated FORTH group on Facebook. peter.m.falth@gmail.com - 2017-03-15 16:14 -0700
Re: Moderated FORTH group on Facebook. john <anon@example.com> - 2017-03-15 18:43 +0000
Re: Moderated FORTH group on Facebook. Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2017-03-16 02:54 -0700
Re: Moderated FORTH group on Facebook. mhx@iae.nl - 2017-03-15 12:56 -0700
Re: Moderated FORTH group on Facebook. rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-03-15 16:15 -0400
Re: Moderated FORTH group on Facebook. john <anon@example.com> - 2017-03-15 20:47 +0000
Re: Moderated FORTH group on Facebook. rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-03-15 17:23 -0400
Re: Moderated FORTH group on Facebook. john <anon@example.com> - 2017-03-15 22:37 +0000
Re: Moderated FORTH group on Facebook. rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-03-15 21:47 -0400
Re: Moderated FORTH group on Facebook. Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2017-03-16 02:58 -0700
Re: Moderated FORTH group on Facebook. Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2017-03-15 06:17 -0700
Re: Moderated FORTH group on Facebook. rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-03-15 15:56 -0400
Re: Moderated FORTH group on Facebook. hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-15 10:59 -0700
Re: Moderated FORTH group on Facebook. rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-03-15 15:55 -0400
Re: Moderated FORTH group on Facebook. rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-03-14 21:11 -0400
Re: Moderated FORTH group on Facebook. mister35mm@gmail.com - 2017-03-14 22:51 -0700
Re: Moderated FORTH group on Facebook. gavino himself <jackvanc3@gmail.com> - 2017-03-17 11:56 -0700
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| From | john <anon@example.com> |
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| Date | 2017-03-15 20:47 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <MPG.3333b8d08f283ee8989702@news.virginmedia.com> |
| In reply to | #55824 |
In article <oac784$2df$1@dont-email.me>, gnuarm@gmail.com says... > Hello rick Because of the problems I'll make one post here for this - any other questions please use the forum so as not to OT the the group to death. Jack was the partner I had up until a few weeks ago. He had to pull out suddenly because of personal problems. His job was to write the projects x86 code and run the forum. My assembler experience with x86 is very limited. The idea was I would get on designing my CPU and he would manage the software side of things. He did start posting here through my news gateway He only ever used his real name. I dont know anything about the other names you list at all. None of them came from here I can guarantee As the TIOS project is my creation I have decided to continue with it and see where it goes. I am funding it all myself. At least for now. There are 2 reasons there are few posts: 1. You just pointed out the site had a problem - I was unaware of that until the messages here tonight. Hopefully that's fixed. 2. Jack had not long finished setting up when he had to stop - I kept it in limbo until he had been to the funeral and decided whether to come back or not. So it has had little push - and I'm not in favour of the usual trick of paying for hundreds of people in India to fill it with fake posts. (many forums do this - it annoys me - ) I don't mind it being slow - TIOS is a long term project with little to show for some time - and the rest is just icing for anyone to enjoy. Your comments there about what I'm doing could be very useful to me though - which is why it exists. If forth users find the forum useful they are very welcome to use it. I'll expand it if required. As things stand I'm limiting access to crawlers and bots for a while but you should have access now if you use reasonably newish browsers. More posts are very welcome - please feel free to join and add to the collection or not - as you wish. I hope that answers your questions. -- john ========================= http://johntech.co.uk "Bleeding Edge Forum" http://johntech.co.uk/forum/ =========================
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| From | rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-03-15 17:23 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <oacb6e$gf0$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #55826 |
On 3/15/2017 4:47 PM, john wrote: > In article <oac784$2df$1@dont-email.me>, gnuarm@gmail.com says... >> > > Hello rick > > Because of the problems I'll make one post here for this - any other questions > please use the forum so as not to OT the the group to death. > > Jack was the partner I had up until a few weeks ago. He had to pull out > suddenly because of personal problems. His job was to write the projects x86 > code and run the forum. My assembler experience with x86 is very limited. > The idea was I would get on designing my CPU and he would manage the > software side of things. > He did start posting here through my news gateway > He only ever used his real name. > I dont know anything about the other names you list at all. > None of them came from here I can guarantee > > As the TIOS project is my creation I have decided to continue with it and > see where it goes. I am funding it all myself. At least for now. > > There are 2 reasons there are few posts: > 1. You just pointed out the site had a problem - I was unaware of that until the > messages here tonight. Hopefully that's fixed. > > 2. Jack had not long finished setting up when he had to stop - I kept it in limbo > until he had been to the funeral and decided whether to come back or not. > > So it has had little push - and I'm not in favour of the usual trick of paying for > hundreds of people in India to fill it with fake posts. (many forums do this - it > annoys me - ) I don't mind it being slow - TIOS is a long term project with little > to show for some time - and the rest is just icing for anyone to enjoy. > Your comments there about what I'm doing could be very useful to me though - > which is why it exists. > > If forth users find the forum useful they are very welcome to use it. I'll > expand it if required. > > As things stand I'm limiting access to crawlers and bots for a while but you > should have access now if you use reasonably newish browsers. > > More posts are very welcome - please feel free to join and add to the collection > or not - as you wish. > > I hope that answers your questions. I asked about the several names because this thread was started by at least one of them. You jumped into an existing thread when you properly should have started a new one. The fact that you jumped into the thread with very similar content made me think you were connected with the OP. That's all. No big deal. -- Rick C
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| From | john <anon@example.com> |
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| Date | 2017-03-15 22:37 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <MPG.3333d28a930846d6989703@news.virginmedia.com> |
| In reply to | #55828 |
In article <oacb6e$gf0$1@dont-email.me>, gnuarm@gmail.com says... > > On 3/15/2017 4:47 PM, john wrote: > > In article <oac784$2df$1@dont-email.me>, gnuarm@gmail.com says... > >> > > > > Hello rick > > > > Because of the problems I'll make one post here for this - any other questions > > please use the forum so as not to OT the the group to death. > > > > Jack was the partner I had up until a few weeks ago. He had to pull out > > suddenly because of personal problems. His job was to write the projects x86 > > code and run the forum. My assembler experience with x86 is very limited. > > The idea was I would get on designing my CPU and he would manage the > > software side of things. > > He did start posting here through my news gateway > > He only ever used his real name. > > I dont know anything about the other names you list at all. > > None of them came from here I can guarantee > > > > As the TIOS project is my creation I have decided to continue with it and > > see where it goes. I am funding it all myself. At least for now. > > > > There are 2 reasons there are few posts: > > 1. You just pointed out the site had a problem - I was unaware of that until the > > messages here tonight. Hopefully that's fixed. > > > > 2. Jack had not long finished setting up when he had to stop - I kept it in limbo > > until he had been to the funeral and decided whether to come back or not. > > > > So it has had little push - and I'm not in favour of the usual trick of paying for > > hundreds of people in India to fill it with fake posts. (many forums do this - it > > annoys me - ) I don't mind it being slow - TIOS is a long term project with little > > to show for some time - and the rest is just icing for anyone to enjoy. > > Your comments there about what I'm doing could be very useful to me though - > > which is why it exists. > > > > If forth users find the forum useful they are very welcome to use it. I'll > > expand it if required. > > > > As things stand I'm limiting access to crawlers and bots for a while but you > > should have access now if you use reasonably newish browsers. > > > > More posts are very welcome - please feel free to join and add to the collection > > or not - as you wish. > > > > I hope that answers your questions. > > I asked about the several names because this thread was started by at > least one of them. You jumped into an existing thread when you properly fairy snuff -- john ========================= http://johntech.co.uk "Bleeding Edge Forum" http://johntech.co.uk/forum/ =========================
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| From | rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-03-15 21:47 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <oacqmk$tpn$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #55831 |
On 3/15/2017 6:37 PM, john wrote: > In article <oacb6e$gf0$1@dont-email.me>, gnuarm@gmail.com says... >> >> On 3/15/2017 4:47 PM, john wrote: >>> In article <oac784$2df$1@dont-email.me>, gnuarm@gmail.com says... >>>> >>> >>> Hello rick >>> >>> Because of the problems I'll make one post here for this - any other questions >>> please use the forum so as not to OT the the group to death. >>> >>> Jack was the partner I had up until a few weeks ago. He had to pull out >>> suddenly because of personal problems. His job was to write the projects x86 >>> code and run the forum. My assembler experience with x86 is very limited. >>> The idea was I would get on designing my CPU and he would manage the >>> software side of things. >>> He did start posting here through my news gateway >>> He only ever used his real name. >>> I dont know anything about the other names you list at all. >>> None of them came from here I can guarantee >>> >>> As the TIOS project is my creation I have decided to continue with it and >>> see where it goes. I am funding it all myself. At least for now. >>> >>> There are 2 reasons there are few posts: >>> 1. You just pointed out the site had a problem - I was unaware of that until the >>> messages here tonight. Hopefully that's fixed. >>> >>> 2. Jack had not long finished setting up when he had to stop - I kept it in limbo >>> until he had been to the funeral and decided whether to come back or not. >>> >>> So it has had little push - and I'm not in favour of the usual trick of paying for >>> hundreds of people in India to fill it with fake posts. (many forums do this - it >>> annoys me - ) I don't mind it being slow - TIOS is a long term project with little >>> to show for some time - and the rest is just icing for anyone to enjoy. >>> Your comments there about what I'm doing could be very useful to me though - >>> which is why it exists. >>> >>> If forth users find the forum useful they are very welcome to use it. I'll >>> expand it if required. >>> >>> As things stand I'm limiting access to crawlers and bots for a while but you >>> should have access now if you use reasonably newish browsers. >>> >>> More posts are very welcome - please feel free to join and add to the collection >>> or not - as you wish. >>> >>> I hope that answers your questions. >> >> I asked about the several names because this thread was started by at >> least one of them. You jumped into an existing thread when you properly > > > fairy snuff I need a translation on that. -- Rick C
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| From | Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-03-16 02:58 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <9c46dde4-e1fd-467f-a3c3-4838361c4dc4@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #55836 |
On Thursday, 16 March 2017 01:47:45 UTC, rickman wrote: > On 3/15/2017 6:37 PM, john wrote: > > In article <oacb6e$gf0$1@dont-email.me>, gnuarm@gmail.com says... > >> > >> On 3/15/2017 4:47 PM, john wrote: > >>> In article <oac784$2df$1@dont-email.me>, gnuarm@gmail.com says... > >>>> > >>> > >>> Hello rick > >>> > >>> Because of the problems I'll make one post here for this - any other questions > >>> please use the forum so as not to OT the the group to death. > >>> > >>> Jack was the partner I had up until a few weeks ago. He had to pull out > >>> suddenly because of personal problems. His job was to write the projects x86 > >>> code and run the forum. My assembler experience with x86 is very limited. > >>> The idea was I would get on designing my CPU and he would manage the > >>> software side of things. > >>> He did start posting here through my news gateway > >>> He only ever used his real name. > >>> I dont know anything about the other names you list at all. > >>> None of them came from here I can guarantee > >>> > >>> As the TIOS project is my creation I have decided to continue with it and > >>> see where it goes. I am funding it all myself. At least for now. > >>> > >>> There are 2 reasons there are few posts: > >>> 1. You just pointed out the site had a problem - I was unaware of that until the > >>> messages here tonight. Hopefully that's fixed. > >>> > >>> 2. Jack had not long finished setting up when he had to stop - I kept it in limbo > >>> until he had been to the funeral and decided whether to come back or not. > >>> > >>> So it has had little push - and I'm not in favour of the usual trick of paying for > >>> hundreds of people in India to fill it with fake posts. (many forums do this - it > >>> annoys me - ) I don't mind it being slow - TIOS is a long term project with little > >>> to show for some time - and the rest is just icing for anyone to enjoy. > >>> Your comments there about what I'm doing could be very useful to me though - > >>> which is why it exists. > >>> > >>> If forth users find the forum useful they are very welcome to use it. I'll > >>> expand it if required. > >>> > >>> As things stand I'm limiting access to crawlers and bots for a while but you > >>> should have access now if you use reasonably newish browsers. > >>> > >>> More posts are very welcome - please feel free to join and add to the collection > >>> or not - as you wish. > >>> > >>> I hope that answers your questions. > >> > >> I asked about the several names because this thread was started by at > >> least one of them. You jumped into an existing thread when you properly > > > > > > fairy snuff > > I need a translation on that. > > -- > > Rick C British slang for "fair enough" (i.e. okay)
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| From | Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-03-15 06:17 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <2fbc4ab7-a47d-4c01-8e42-11421610dbe1@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #55804 |
On Wednesday, 15 March 2017 07:30:56 UTC, rickman wrote: > On 3/15/2017 1:55 AM, mister35mm@gmail.com wrote: > > ....blah...blah...blah... > > > > some tedious ranting... > >> Bring knee-pads! > > > > Right then, you stay here then and argue with yourself. > > > > This is just the reason why I created this group, so discussions stay on topic and bitter little trolls stay out. > > This group is not so overrun with the non-productive posters that it is > not worth reading. I have no doubt a moderated group would have fewer > non-productive posts, but it would likely also have fewer productive > posts. I have yet to find a moderated group that was worth following. > > Yours requiring a Facebook account makes it a no-go for me. > > I guess we'll just have to continue to live with the trolling posts and > spam. > > -- > > Rick C Well, you're missing out. The Forth Programming Group on Facebook is very good. I'm a member of it. The amount of traffic is surprisingly high. Not everything is directly related to Forth, but all of it is interesting. For example, there might be a post about a new micro-controller board coming to the market. And there's no bitching.
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| From | rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-03-15 15:56 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <oac645$sl5$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #55809 |
On 3/15/2017 9:17 AM, Mark Wills wrote: > On Wednesday, 15 March 2017 07:30:56 UTC, rickman wrote: >> On 3/15/2017 1:55 AM, mister35mm@gmail.com wrote: >>> ....blah...blah...blah... >>> >>> some tedious ranting... >>>> Bring knee-pads! >>> >>> Right then, you stay here then and argue with yourself. >>> >>> This is just the reason why I created this group, so discussions stay on topic and bitter little trolls stay out. >> >> This group is not so overrun with the non-productive posters that it is >> not worth reading. I have no doubt a moderated group would have fewer >> non-productive posts, but it would likely also have fewer productive >> posts. I have yet to find a moderated group that was worth following. >> >> Yours requiring a Facebook account makes it a no-go for me. >> >> I guess we'll just have to continue to live with the trolling posts and >> spam. >> >> -- >> >> Rick C > > Well, you're missing out. The Forth Programming Group on Facebook is very > good. I'm a member of it. The amount of traffic is surprisingly high. > Not everything is directly related to Forth, but all of it is interesting. > For example, there might be a post about a new micro-controller board > coming to the market. > > And there's no bitching. That's ok. I don't do Facebook for very good reasons. I don't expect anyone will miss me if I'm not there and I know Hugh would miss me if I stopped posting here. -- Rick C
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| From | hughaguilar96@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2017-03-15 10:59 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <00d238fb-f4d7-40d7-bc00-9bccfe14ede1@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #55801 |
On Tuesday, March 14, 2017 at 10:55:29 PM UTC-7, miste...@gmail.com wrote: > ....blah...blah...blah... > > some tedious ranting... > > Bring knee-pads! > > Right then, you stay here then and argue with yourself. > > This is just the reason why I created this group, so discussions stay on topic and bitter little trolls stay out. I like the idea of keeping discussions on topic! This is one of my favorite threads here on comp.lang.forth: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.lang.forth/92KNs8p4J6Y%5B1-25%5D The topic here was that an early-binding MACRO: would be better than a late-binding MACRO: --- I nailed that topic by writing an early-binding MACRO: and posting the code --- this is an excellent demonstration of the need for disambiguifiers, as this would be impossible to write in a portable ANS-Forth compliant manner without disambiguifiers. Not everyone liked my early-binding MACRO: though. It was suggested that a moderation would be needed to prevent code from being posted that is only possible through the use of disambiguifiers --- and that more drastic measures (homicide) could also be used to prevent ANS-Forth code from being posted: On Saturday, December 31, 2016 at 8:46:15 AM UTC-7, Julian Fondren wrote: > The only thing Hugh has added to clf in his entire time here is an > awareness that CREATE ... DOES> with constant data is less optimal > than could be. Possibly some people have also benefited by having > been encouraged to get real Usenet clients or subscriptions--so as to > avoid him. All of his other contributions have been negative. We are > actually stupider because of him--people have stopped coming by, that > brightened things up; people who know better don't bother voicing > response #1929 to the same iterated complaint from Hugh that was > stupid and baseless the first time it provoked a response. > > And of course, instead of Forth discussion, you get the occasional > admissions like mine that moderators can be nice to have, that the > problems they exhibit shouldn't be solved by doing away with them. > At one point I would've defended to the death Hugh's right to > fantasize grossly about people going to hell, as the saying goes, and > now I would just shrug and say he had it coming were jack-booted > thugs to black-bag him and remove him from society.
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| From | rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-03-15 15:55 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <oac61s$sl5$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #55801 |
On 3/15/2017 1:55 AM, mister35mm@gmail.com wrote: > ....blah...blah...blah... > > some tedious ranting... >> Bring knee-pads! > > Right then, you stay here then and argue with yourself. > > This is just the reason why I created this group, so discussions stay on topic and bitter little trolls stay out. I'm a bit confused. Who are YOU? Are you stephen Walters? If so, why are you posting under a different name or non-name? -- Rick C
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| From | rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-03-14 21:11 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <oaa46u$f2k$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #55793 |
On 3/14/2017 5:41 PM, Stephen Walters Esq wrote: > Last year, I setup a moderated FORTH programming group on Facebook. With it's growing popularity, I setup an additional FORTH group for developers and makers to sell their products and services. > > New members are welcome. > > These are moderated groups, so spam and bullying are not acceptable any offenders are excluded. > > FORTH PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE > https://www.facebook.com/groups/PROGRAMMINGFORTH/?ref=bookmarks > > and > FORTH PROGRAMMING:- HARDWARE / SOFTWARE / SERVICES (SALE+WANTED) > https://www.facebook.com/groups/1847741652126778/ > > Stephen Walters G7VFY This is facebook. Who wants to join facebook to talk about Forth? I tried facebook for a bit and ended up cancelling my account. -- Rick C
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| From | mister35mm@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2017-03-14 22:51 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <0515d80e-8beb-4574-afda-0d414ebcf861@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #55797 |
Join, don't join. Toss a coin.
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| From | gavino himself <jackvanc3@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-03-17 11:56 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <18676340-6a28-4843-a773-ba630ef70926@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #55793 |
On Tuesday, March 14, 2017 at 5:41:31 PM UTC-4, Stephen Walters Esq wrote: > Last year, I setup a moderated FORTH programming group on Facebook. With it's growing popularity, I setup an additional FORTH group for developers and makers to sell their products and services. > > New members are welcome. > > These are moderated groups, so spam and bullying are not acceptable any offenders are excluded. > > FORTH PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE > https://www.facebook.com/groups/PROGRAMMINGFORTH/?ref=bookmarks > > and > FORTH PROGRAMMING:- HARDWARE / SOFTWARE / SERVICES (SALE+WANTED) > https://www.facebook.com/groups/1847741652126778/ > > Stephen Walters G7VFY nice!
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