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  sick of whining when I ask brilliant questions gavino himself <jackvanc3@gmail.com> - 2017-03-14 05:15 -0700
    Re: sick of whining when I ask brilliant questions Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2017-03-14 06:12 -0700
      Re: sick of whining when I ask brilliant questions hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-14 14:25 -0700
        Re: sick of whining when I ask brilliant questions gavino himself <jackvanc3@gmail.com> - 2017-03-14 14:31 -0700
          Re: sick of whining when I ask brilliant questions rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-03-14 21:09 -0400
            Re: sick of whining when I ask brilliant questions gavino himself <jackvanc3@gmail.com> - 2017-03-14 18:56 -0700
            Re: sick of whining when I ask brilliant questions hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-14 23:40 -0700
      Re: sick of whining when I ask brilliant questions gavino himself <jackvanc3@gmail.com> - 2017-03-14 14:30 -0700

#55769 — sick of whining when I ask brilliant questions

Why when I ask questions geared around repalcing the shit I see in modern dev environments is there all this wiseass whining?
Why not make a short link including statement....or post a short opinion...?
why are some many people such personal insult hurling bitches here or weird try to be funny wiseasses?

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#55771

On Tuesday, 14 March 2017 12:15:06 UTC, gavino himself  wrote:
> Why when I ask questions geared around repalcing the shit I see in modern dev environments is there all this wiseass whining?
> Why not make a short link including statement....or post a short opinion...?
> why are some many people such personal insult hurling bitches here or weird try to be funny wiseasses?

Because you don't listen, don't do anything, and contribute nothing.

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#55790

On Tuesday, March 14, 2017 at 6:12:34 AM UTC-7, Mark Wills wrote:
> On Tuesday, 14 March 2017 12:15:06 UTC, gavino himself  wrote:
> > Why when I ask questions geared around repalcing the shit I see in modern dev environments is there all this wiseass whining?
> > Why not make a short link including statement....or post a short opinion...?
> > why are some many people such personal insult hurling bitches here or weird try to be funny wiseasses?
> 
> Because you don't listen, don't do anything, and contribute nothing.

Also, you think too big. You want to write an OS that takes 1% of the code and provides 100 times the features. In that other recent thread, you wanted to know about running Forth on the bare metal (implying a micro-controller), but then you said you wanted to build databases and web servers, and finished up by saying: "I am attracted to simplicity..."

You remind me of myself when I was 11 years old --- I was dreaming about grandiose projects such as building a satellite to orbit the Earth --- but the whole summer went by and I never finished building my go-kart.

Pretty much every programmer, including myself, started out by writing a game as a teenager. I gave you an assignment earlier to write a break-out game --- I did this myself on the Commodore Vic-20 when I was 16 or 17 --- but you replied: "fuk u" (you can't even spell your words, attention-deficit dumb-head!).

Just think of a game that would be fun to play. I don't mean a first-person shoot-em-up that requires a team of programmers plus a dozen graphics-artists --- I mean something like Breakout or Hammurabi --- then just write it.

Any fool can be a big expert on the subject of programming, and most are --- actually writing programs that work is quite another matter --- debugging is the difficult part, but with practice it gets easier.

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#55792

On Tuesday, March 14, 2017 at 5:25:20 PM UTC-4, hughag...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 14, 2017 at 6:12:34 AM UTC-7, Mark Wills wrote:
> > On Tuesday, 14 March 2017 12:15:06 UTC, gavino himself  wrote:
> > > Why when I ask questions geared around repalcing the shit I see in modern dev environments is there all this wiseass whining?
> > > Why not make a short link including statement....or post a short opinion...?
> > > why are some many people such personal insult hurling bitches here or weird try to be funny wiseasses?
> > 
> > Because you don't listen, don't do anything, and contribute nothing.
> 
> Also, you think too big. You want to write an OS that takes 1% of the code and provides 100 times the features. In that other recent thread, you wanted to know about running Forth on the bare metal (implying a micro-controller), but then you said you wanted to build databases and web servers, and finished up by saying: "I am attracted to simplicity..."
> 
> You remind me of myself when I was 11 years old --- I was dreaming about grandiose projects such as building a satellite to orbit the Earth --- but the whole summer went by and I never finished building my go-kart.
> 
> Pretty much every programmer, including myself, started out by writing a game as a teenager. I gave you an assignment earlier to write a break-out game --- I did this myself on the Commodore Vic-20 when I was 16 or 17 --- but you replied: "fuk u" (you can't even spell your words, attention-deficit dumb-head!).
> 
> Just think of a game that would be fun to play. I don't mean a first-person shoot-em-up that requires a team of programmers plus a dozen graphics-artists --- I mean something like Breakout or Hammurabi --- then just write it.
> 
> Any fool can be a big expert on the subject of programming, and most are --- actually writing programs that work is quite another matter --- debugging is the difficult part, but with practice it gets easier.

wel you probably insulted me tho

:)

Im a big kick butt guy id just punch you in face if you insult me to my face

on here I say fuk u

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#55796

On 3/14/2017 5:31 PM, gavino himself wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 14, 2017 at 5:25:20 PM UTC-4, hughag...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Tuesday, March 14, 2017 at 6:12:34 AM UTC-7, Mark Wills wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, 14 March 2017 12:15:06 UTC, gavino himself  wrote:
>>>> Why when I ask questions geared around repalcing the shit I see in modern dev environments is there all this wiseass whining?
>>>> Why not make a short link including statement....or post a short opinion...?
>>>> why are some many people such personal insult hurling bitches here or weird try to be funny wiseasses?
>>>
>>> Because you don't listen, don't do anything, and contribute nothing.
>>
>> Also, you think too big. You want to write an OS that takes 1% of the code and provides 100 times the features. In that other recent thread, you wanted to know about running Forth on the bare metal (implying a micro-controller), but then you said you wanted to build databases and web servers, and finished up by saying: "I am attracted to simplicity..."
>>
>> You remind me of myself when I was 11 years old --- I was dreaming about grandiose projects such as building a satellite to orbit the Earth --- but the whole summer went by and I never finished building my go-kart.
>>
>> Pretty much every programmer, including myself, started out by writing a game as a teenager. I gave you an assignment earlier to write a break-out game --- I did this myself on the Commodore Vic-20 when I was 16 or 17 --- but you replied: "fuk u" (you can't even spell your words, attention-deficit dumb-head!).
>>
>> Just think of a game that would be fun to play. I don't mean a first-person shoot-em-up that requires a team of programmers plus a dozen graphics-artists --- I mean something like Breakout or Hammurabi --- then just write it.
>>
>> Any fool can be a big expert on the subject of programming, and most are --- actually writing programs that work is quite another matter --- debugging is the difficult part, but with practice it gets easier.
>
> wel you probably insulted me tho
>
> :)
>
> Im a big kick butt guy id just punch you in face if you insult me to my face
>
> on here I say fuk u

On here people treat you as you deserve to be treated according to how 
you speak.

On here I say fuk u.

Oh, I'm a bigger butt kick guy BTW...  You punch me in the face I call 
the cops.  They do my slugging for me.  :)

-- 

Rick C

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#55798

On Tuesday, March 14, 2017 at 9:09:11 PM UTC-4, rickman wrote:
> On 3/14/2017 5:31 PM, gavino himself wrote:
> > On Tuesday, March 14, 2017 at 5:25:20 PM UTC-4, hughag...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> On Tuesday, March 14, 2017 at 6:12:34 AM UTC-7, Mark Wills wrote:
> >>> On Tuesday, 14 March 2017 12:15:06 UTC, gavino himself  wrote:
> >>>> Why when I ask questions geared around repalcing the shit I see in modern dev environments is there all this wiseass whining?
> >>>> Why not make a short link including statement....or post a short opinion...?
> >>>> why are some many people such personal insult hurling bitches here or weird try to be funny wiseasses?
> >>>
> >>> Because you don't listen, don't do anything, and contribute nothing.
> >>
> >> Also, you think too big. You want to write an OS that takes 1% of the code and provides 100 times the features. In that other recent thread, you wanted to know about running Forth on the bare metal (implying a micro-controller), but then you said you wanted to build databases and web servers, and finished up by saying: "I am attracted to simplicity..."
> >>
> >> You remind me of myself when I was 11 years old --- I was dreaming about grandiose projects such as building a satellite to orbit the Earth --- but the whole summer went by and I never finished building my go-kart.
> >>
> >> Pretty much every programmer, including myself, started out by writing a game as a teenager. I gave you an assignment earlier to write a break-out game --- I did this myself on the Commodore Vic-20 when I was 16 or 17 --- but you replied: "fuk u" (you can't even spell your words, attention-deficit dumb-head!).
> >>
> >> Just think of a game that would be fun to play. I don't mean a first-person shoot-em-up that requires a team of programmers plus a dozen graphics-artists --- I mean something like Breakout or Hammurabi --- then just write it.
> >>
> >> Any fool can be a big expert on the subject of programming, and most are --- actually writing programs that work is quite another matter --- debugging is the difficult part, but with practice it gets easier.
> >
> > wel you probably insulted me tho
> >
> > :)
> >
> > Im a big kick butt guy id just punch you in face if you insult me to my face
> >
> > on here I say fuk u
> 
> On here people treat you as you deserve to be treated according to how 
> you speak.
> 
> On here I say fuk u.
> 
> Oh, I'm a bigger butt kick guy BTW...  You punch me in the face I call 
> the cops.  They do my slugging for me.  :)
> 
> -- 
> 
> Rick C

you are confusing cause and effect
first I was insulted
many times repeatedly
then I respond with the same eregy that I am attacked with
attacked for no good reason by the way
for talking about computers

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#55803

On Tuesday, March 14, 2017 at 6:09:11 PM UTC-7, rickman wrote:
> On 3/14/2017 5:31 PM, gavino himself wrote:
> > wel you probably insulted me tho
> >
> > :)
> >
> > Im a big kick butt guy id just punch you in face if you insult me to my face
> >
> > on here I say fuk u
> 
> On here people treat you as you deserve to be treated according to how 
> you speak.
> 
> On here I say fuk u.
> 
> Oh, I'm a bigger butt kick guy BTW...  You punch me in the face I call 
> the cops.  They do my slugging for me.  :)

Rickman tells us that he would say "fuk u" to somebody's face, then call the cops on the guy after the guy slugs him. This is grossly dishonorable --- this is punk behavior --- I would never do such a thing. 

This is not to say that I'm a coward, afraid of violence. Twice I have caught somebody trying to break into my vehicle in a parking lot, and both times I slugged him. 

1.) The first was a squirmy Jew. He blocked my punch so it had no effect, but then he collapsed on the ground in a fetal position covering his face --- I had to hit him multiple times before I got through and connected with his nose --- when I saw that he was bleeding and he began howling: "I'm sorry!," I stopped fighting and left.

2.) The second was a stocky white guy about half my age and twice my strength; he appeared to be the type who is on steroids and works out at the gym every day. When I hit him, I knocked out at least one tooth afaik, but he didn't go down. He staggered a bit, then came at me swinging. We fought hard --- I used to be a kick-boxer, so I know how to fight, but that was 25 years ago and I'm out of shape now --- I slipped his punches and landed a solid one of my own, but he still didn't go down. At this time he grabbed my jacket and pulled it over my head ("hood-winked" me, as they used to say during the Middle Ages), so I was in serious danger of losing the fight. I have a weird gap in my memory as to what happened next. My next conscious memory is that I was on top of him bashing his head into the asphalt. Apparently I hulked out when I realized that I was in trouble, but I really don't remember. Anyway, I left him there bleeding and got in my vehicle and drove away. It is a good thing that my conscious mind regained control, or I might have killed him, but when I realized that he wasn't fighting anymore I stopped fighting and I left --- he was sitting up and looking at me dazed when I left --- he was alive, which is why I'm not in prison today; the police never bothered me at all about it although I'm pretty sure that they know that it was me (one of the several witnesses took a photograph of my license-plate while I was driving away).

Anyway, I never insulted Gavino. It is not my business to pick fights with attention-deficit galoots. All I did was give him the assignment of writing a BreakOut game --- I said that he should write this program, which is pretty easy (I did it on the Commodore Vic-20) --- I said that he should do this rather than continually posting idiotic questions on comp.lang.forth or comp.lang.lisp about writing an OS with 1% of the code and 100 times the features. OMG! This reminds me of when I was 11 years old and dreaming about building a satellite that orbits Earth, using an old tank that I found in my father's scrap-metal pile. This is a waste of time!

This was the thread:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/comp.lang.forth/breakout%7Csort:date/comp.lang.forth/qTDKxhW9758/KrWqJV7MCQAJ

This was what Gavino said (quoted in its entirety):

On Saturday, June 18, 2016 at 8:35:34 PM UTC-7, endlessboo...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, June 16, 2016 at 10:58:17 PM UTC-4, hughag...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at 12:15:59 PM UTC-7, endlessboo...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > why?
> > 
> > Lisp, Haskell and Ada are all very different from Forth, and very different from each other too.
> > 
> > This is a troll thread --- similar to WJ posting OCaml code, previously OForth code until Franck told him to stop, previously Gauche Scheme code, and often Ruby code --- you are just trying to start a flame-war of people saying: "my language can beat up your language!"
> > 
> > All of these languages are good in their own way --- that is why the all have their enthusiasts.
> > 
> > Gavino --- why don't you just write some programs in one of the languages --- it doesn't have to be Forth, although that would likely be the easiest to learn, but just pick one of them and write a program.
> > 
> > Programming is about writing programs --- not posting threads on the internet --- I really think the internet has been an overall negative factor in the advancement of programming, not positive.
> 
> fuk u

Gavino --- get over yourself, and your high I.Q.! Write a program such as BreakOut or Hammurabi, or anything that you find interesting and within your reach --- you can cure your attention-deficit problem by just buckling down and carrying a project to completion --- even if it is just a simple game of 1970s quality, you will have something to be proud of, and everybody on comp.lang.forth and comp.lang.lisp will cheer you with vigor and sincerity.

Also, for Elizabeth Rather --- stop posting code snippets copied directly out of the "Starting Forth" book, and braying about how you are the "leading expert" of Forth who learned directly from "Chuck" --- write a program, such as BreakOut or Hammurabi, as your first-ever working program.

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#55791

On Tuesday, March 14, 2017 at 9:12:34 AM UTC-4, Mark Wills wrote:
> On Tuesday, 14 March 2017 12:15:06 UTC, gavino himself  wrote:
> > Why when I ask questions geared around repalcing the shit I see in modern dev environments is there all this wiseass whining?
> > Why not make a short link including statement....or post a short opinion...?
> > why are some many people such personal insult hurling bitches here or weird try to be funny wiseasses?
> 
> Because you don't listen, don't do anything, and contribute nothing.

I do listen... I dont get straight answers.

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