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The Wikipedia article on Forth

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First post2017-02-24 15:05 -0800
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  The Wikipedia article on Forth jim <njbetts@gmail.com> - 2017-02-24 15:05 -0800
    The Wikipedia article on Forth Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2017-02-24 15:14 -0800
      Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-02-24 23:38 -0800
      Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-02-25 04:51 -0600
      Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2017-02-25 13:00 +0100
        Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2017-02-26 14:29 +1100
          Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-02-26 09:30 +0000
            Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-02-26 02:44 -0800
              Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2017-02-26 03:12 -0800
                Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-02-26 03:25 -0800
              Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-26 14:00 -0800
                Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-02-26 14:32 -0800
                  Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-02-26 22:58 +0000
                    Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-02-26 15:29 -0800
                      Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-26 21:57 -0500
                        Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-02-26 19:17 -0800
                          Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-26 22:21 -0500
                  Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-26 15:41 -0800
                    Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2017-02-26 14:46 -1000
                      Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-26 17:08 -0800
                        Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2017-02-26 15:18 -1000
                    Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-02-27 14:20 -0800
                      Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-27 17:47 -0500
                        Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-02-27 15:16 -0800
                          Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-27 19:04 -0500
                            Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-02-27 21:52 -0800
                              Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-28 01:12 -0500
                                Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-02-28 03:33 -0800
                                  Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-28 19:23 -0500
                                    Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-03-01 08:04 -0800
                          Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-02-27 18:54 -0600
                            Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-02-28 03:17 -0800
                              Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-28 03:50 -0800
                                Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-02-28 05:28 -0800
                                Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-02-28 13:59 -0800
                                  Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-03-01 08:25 -0800
                      Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-27 23:00 -0800
                        Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2017-02-28 11:51 +0100
                          Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2017-02-28 05:19 -0800
                            Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-28 19:34 -0500
                        Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-02-28 03:42 -0800
                      Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2017-03-10 10:16 +1100
                        Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-03-09 18:21 -0500
                        Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-03-09 23:44 +0000
                          Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-03-09 19:55 -0500
                            Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-10 11:24 -0800
                              Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-10 13:38 -0800
                              Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-03-11 12:08 +0000
                          Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2017-03-09 16:34 -1000
                            Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-09 22:43 -0800
                            Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2017-03-11 15:23 +1100
                          Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2017-03-10 21:17 +1100
                            Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-03-11 12:06 +0000
                              Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-03-12 05:32 -0500
                                Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-03-12 11:17 +0000
                                  Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-03-12 13:18 +0000
                                    Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-03-12 14:59 +0000
                                      Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Rod Pemberton <NeedNotReplyHere@xrsevnneqk.cem> - 2017-03-12 15:00 -0400
                              Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2017-03-13 10:43 +1100
                                Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-03-13 07:57 +0000
                                Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-03-13 10:26 +0000
                        Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-03-10 03:27 -0600
                          Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2017-03-10 08:47 -1000
                            Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-03-11 01:57 -0600
            Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-02-26 10:00 -0800
              Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-02-26 18:32 +0000
                Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-02-26 11:52 -0800
                  Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-02-26 20:23 +0000
              Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-02-26 11:21 -0800
                Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-02-26 19:41 +0000
                  Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-02-26 11:55 -0800
                    Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-02-26 20:14 +0000
                    Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2017-02-26 12:37 -0800
                      Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-02-26 14:26 -0800
                        Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2017-02-27 14:10 +1100
                          Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-02-26 19:43 -0800
                        Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-02-27 04:13 -0600
                          Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2017-02-27 14:31 -0800
                            Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-02-28 03:53 -0600
            Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2017-02-27 13:15 +1100
              Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2017-02-27 02:22 -0800
                Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2017-02-27 15:52 -1000
                  Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2017-02-28 14:44 +1100
                    Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-27 22:55 -0800
                      Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2017-03-04 21:38 +1100
                        Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-03-04 06:11 -0500
                          Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-03-04 12:21 +0000
                            Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-03-04 13:27 -0500
                            Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com> - 2017-03-05 08:50 -0800
                              Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-03-08 15:12 +0000
                          Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2017-03-05 18:25 +1100
                            Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-03-05 02:38 -0500
                              Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2017-03-07 18:20 +1100
                                Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-03-07 02:45 -0500
                                  Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-03-07 08:54 +0000
                                    Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-03-07 04:42 -0500
                                      Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-03-07 04:06 -0600
                                    Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Roelf Toxopeus <rt4all@nothishetnet.nl> - 2017-03-07 13:02 +0100
                                  Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2017-03-08 18:43 +1100
                                    Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2017-03-07 22:04 -1000
                                      Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2017-03-08 19:49 +1100
                                        Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-03-08 19:02 -0500
                                      Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-03-08 10:06 +0000
                                    Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-03-08 03:35 -0500
                                    Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-03-08 13:41 +0000
                                      Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2017-03-08 15:29 +0100
                                        Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-03-08 15:10 +0000
                                Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-03-07 08:31 +0000
                                  Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Bernd Paysan <bernd@net2o.de> - 2017-03-11 22:03 +0000
                                    Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-03-11 22:56 +0000
                                    Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-03-12 05:36 -0500
                                      Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2017-03-12 15:14 +0000
                                      Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-12 19:46 -0700
                        Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-03-04 12:09 +0000
                          Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth alex@rivadpm.com - 2017-03-05 15:28 -0800
                          Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-03-05 22:05 +0000
                        Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth julian.fondren@endurance.com - 2017-03-04 07:23 -0800
                          Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Bernd Paysan <bernd@net2o.de> - 2017-03-11 22:11 +0000
                        Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2017-03-04 07:25 -0800
                          Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2017-03-05 19:10 +1100
                            Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-03-05 04:27 -0500
                            Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2017-03-05 18:24 -0800
                              Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2017-03-07 18:16 +1100
                                Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2017-03-07 11:35 +0000
                                Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2017-03-07 17:13 -1000
                                  Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2017-03-08 19:10 +1100
                                    Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-03-08 03:38 -0500
                                    Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-03-08 10:18 +0000
                                  Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Bernd Paysan <bernd@net2o.de> - 2017-03-11 22:41 +0000
                                    Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2017-03-11 16:50 -1000
                                      Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-03-12 09:56 +0000
                                        Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2017-03-12 14:31 -1000
                                          Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Bernd Paysan <bernd@net2o.de> - 2017-03-15 23:54 +0000
                                            Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-15 19:00 -0700
                                              Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-15 21:27 -0700
                                          Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-15 21:39 -0700
                                            Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-15 22:13 -0700
                                          Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2017-03-16 10:20 +0000
                                        Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-12 19:42 -0700
                                      Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-12 19:39 -0700
                                    Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-03-12 05:48 -0500
                          Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2017-03-06 01:26 -0800
                            Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-03-06 05:33 -0500
                            Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-03-06 04:33 -0600
                              Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-03-06 17:16 +0000
                                Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-03-06 12:28 -0600
                                  Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2017-03-06 11:10 -0800
                                  Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2017-03-06 11:12 -0800
                                  Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-03-06 15:22 -0500
                                    Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2017-03-06 12:28 -0800
                                    Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-03-07 02:51 -0600
                                      Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-03-07 13:13 +0000
                                        Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-03-07 14:50 -0500
                                          Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2017-03-07 12:06 -0800
                                            Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-03-07 16:00 -0500
                                              Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth julian.fondren@endurance.com - 2017-03-07 13:18 -0800
                                              Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-03-08 00:16 +0000
                                                Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-03-08 03:04 -0600
                                                  Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-03-08 09:52 +0000
                                                    Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-03-08 05:09 -0600
                                                      Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-03-08 14:05 +0000
                                                        Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-03-08 12:05 -0600
                                            Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-03-08 03:00 -0600
                                            Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Bernd Paysan <bernd@net2o.de> - 2017-03-11 22:53 +0000
                                Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Bernd Paysan <bernd@net2o.de> - 2017-03-11 23:19 +0000
                                  Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2017-03-11 17:01 -1000
                                  Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-03-12 10:12 +0000
                                    Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-03-12 07:02 -0500
                                      Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-03-12 12:43 +0000
                                        Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-03-12 12:28 -0500
                                    Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2017-03-12 16:29 +0100
                                      Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-03-12 16:16 +0000
                                    Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-03-12 21:42 +0000
                            Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2017-03-08 19:13 +1100
                              Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2017-03-08 01:33 -0800
                                Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2017-03-10 10:37 +1100
                      Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-03-04 18:35 -0800
                  Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-02-27 23:12 -0800
              Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-02-27 13:13 +0000
                Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-02-27 23:28 -0800
                  Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-02-28 07:49 +0000
                    Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-28 03:32 -0500
    Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2017-02-25 11:55 +1100
    Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2017-02-24 22:14 -1000
      Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Roelf Toxopeus <rt4all@nothishetnet.nl> - 2017-02-26 15:15 +0100
      Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-02-26 20:02 -0800
        Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-26 23:08 -0500
          Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-02-26 23:27 -0600
            Re: The Wikipedia article on Forth rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-27 01:21 -0500

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#55240

FromAlex <alex@rivadpm.com>
Date2017-02-28 07:49 +0000
Message-ID<o939u7$2im$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#55239
On 2/28/2017 07:28, hughaguilar96@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, February 27, 2017 at 6:13:25 AM UTC-7, Alex wrote:
>> On 2/27/2017 02:15, HAA wrote:
>>> It was a farewell speech given in apology for having walked out
>>> on the ANS TC. He made it as gracious as possible.  In the years
>>> since Chuck hasn't minced words.  ANS was the latest but it's all
>>> standards he has a problem with:
>>>
>>> "I distrust formal representations. For example, the ANSII Forth
>>> standard does not describe Forth, but a language with the same
>>> name."
>>
>> "The first meetings were pleasant, because there was nothing of
>> substance.  But the principle I cannot subscribe to is that matters
>> of fact or truth or beauty can be voted on.  The facts speak for
>> themselves.  That's my gut reaction."
>
> I don't think Charles Moore would be opposed to my Straight Forth
> standard. He would be opposed if I claimed that this was the Forth
> standard to end all Forth standards. I don't though. I only want it
> to support code-libraries (has real quotations, not Paysan-faked
> quotations), and supports numeric programming (has ratios), and
> supports text handling (has a string-stack with copy-on-write).

Who cares about standards? Not producers (companies, individuals, other 
groups that might be writing them) but consumers. This is a beauty 
contest, and the contestants don't get to vote.

>
> Straight Forth does not support multi-core computers, which Oforth
> does support --- multi-core computers are the future (actually, the
> present, although they are not well-supported yet) --- so, Straight
> Forth is not really aiming to be the last Forth standard; there will
> have to be another Forth standard in the future that supports
> multi-core computers, but I'm not delving into that at this time
> (somewhat beyond my level of expertise).

I'm not surprised.

>
>> Mystics and those who ascribe to truths beyond understanding are
>> often unable to describe what they feel; hence he says, your Forth
>> is not his Forth, for its beauty and self evident facts cannot be
>> described or contained by words.
>>
>> What an annoying git he must have been. I can imagine the relief
>> when he walked out, and the patience and tongue biting required by
>> the committee when he came back and graciously shat on their work.
>>
>>> The Wikipedia article would have everyone believe otherwise.
>>
>> The wikipedia article cares as little for Charles Moores' gut
>> feeling as I do. I simply wanted to make sure you understood that
>> quoting his position required a little more of what he said than
>> your truncated quote.
>
> What an annoying git you are! You truncated his quote too, for the
> purpose of making it seem as if he whole-heartedly supported
> ANS-Forth as the Forth standard to end all Forth standards --- quite
> a contorted interpretation, considering that this speech was his
> farewell to ANS-Forth.
>
> Charles Moore didn't want sycophants --- you hate him because you
> know that he had no use for your kind --- you love Elizabeth Rather
> because she wants (actually needs) sycophants and hence gives your
> otherwise meaningless life a purpose.

Dribble. Consistent but dribble.

>
> You said that you: "do standards for a living." LOL You are a
> corporate shill!
>

Of course I am. So is anyone with a job where they don't get to wake up 
in the morning and think -- "What shall I do today?" These people are 
unemployable, unemployed or occasionally rich.

-- 
Alex

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#55243

Fromrickman <gnuarm@gmail.com>
Date2017-02-28 03:32 -0500
Message-ID<o93cfv$8kk$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#55240
On 2/28/2017 2:49 AM, Alex wrote:
>
> Of course I am. So is anyone with a job where they don't get to wake up
> in the morning and think -- "What shall I do today?" These people are
> unemployable, unemployed or occasionally rich.

Or possibly all three!  :)

-- 

Rick C

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#55087

From"HAA" <someone@microsoft.com>
Date2017-02-25 11:55 +1100
Message-ID<o8qkjf$aci$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#55085
jim wrote:
> Anybody wanting to find out about Forth from start is going to see the the Wikipedia
> article.
> This is the rest of the world doing a Google search, rather than the clf community.
> This confers some importance on on the Wikipedia article.
> The article is relatively detailed.
> The Edit history shows that there are guardian angels, with the last revision on Feb 22.
> Does anyone have any critical comment on the current article?
> There is I think 1 clf reference to the article in the last month, but I'm having
> trouble retrieving it. I fell off the Forth train in about 2000, so I'm unsure what to
> tell friends who ask me about the article. jim betts

The article may not be that important given the cult status of the language
and numerous introductions that can be found by googling.  The Wikipedia
entry is necessarily limited, emphasis is post-Moore with no mention of the
minimalism which underpins the language.


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#55093

From"Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com>
Date2017-02-24 22:14 -1000
Message-ID<e7KdnbQixO1HoSzFnZ2dnUU7-K3NnZ2d@supernews.com>
In reply to#55085
On 2/24/17 1:05 PM, jim wrote:
> Anybody wanting to find out about Forth from start is going to see the the Wikipedia article.
> This is the rest of the world doing a Google search, rather than the clf community.
> This confers some importance on on the Wikipedia article.
> The article is relatively detailed.
> The Edit history shows that there are guardian angels, with the last revision on Feb 22.
> Does anyone have any critical comment on the current article?
> There is I think 1 clf reference to the article in the last month, but I'm having trouble retrieving it.
> I fell off the Forth train in about 2000, so I'm unsure what to tell friends who ask me about the article.
> jim betts
>

I just read the Wikipedia entry for the first time in a while... it has 
been extensively re-written since the last time I looked at it. It has 
serious organizational problems (topics explained repeatedly with 
different words and examples), but is not inaccurate. It would probably 
appeal more to computer science folk than the descriptions I've provided 
in the past, but that may be a good thing. I would like to see some more 
application examples, and if I have time in the next few days I may try 
to add some.

Cheers,
Elizabeth

-- 
Elizabeth R. Conklin
FORTH, Inc.
6080 Center Drive, Suite 600
Los Angeles, CA  90045
USA

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#55117

FromRoelf Toxopeus <rt4all@nothishetnet.nl>
Date2017-02-26 15:15 +0100
Message-ID<58b2e2fd$0$1597$e4fe514c@textnews.kpn.nl>
In reply to#55093
On 25/02/17 09:14, Elizabeth D. Rather wrote:
> On 2/24/17 1:05 PM, jim wrote:
>> Anybody wanting to find out about Forth from start is going to see the
>> the Wikipedia article.
>> This is the rest of the world doing a Google search, rather than the
>> clf community.
>> This confers some importance on on the Wikipedia article.
>> The article is relatively detailed.
>> The Edit history shows that there are guardian angels, with the last
>> revision on Feb 22.
>> Does anyone have any critical comment on the current article?
>> There is I think 1 clf reference to the article in the last month, but
>> I'm having trouble retrieving it.
>> I fell off the Forth train in about 2000, so I'm unsure what to tell
>> friends who ask me about the article.
>> jim betts
>>
>
> I just read the Wikipedia entry for the first time in a while... it has
> been extensively re-written since the last time I looked at it. It has
> serious organizational problems (topics explained repeatedly with
> different words and examples), but is not inaccurate. It would probably
> appeal more to computer science folk than the descriptions I've provided
> in the past, but that may be a good thing. I would like to see some more
> application examples, and if I have time in the next few days I may try
> to add some.

Yes please. Forth and usage are indivisible ;-)

And perhaps look at things like this:

<quote>
Structure of code[edit]
In most Forth systems, the body of a code definition consists of either 
machine language, or some form of threaded code. The original Forth 
which follows the informal FIG standard (Forth Interest Group), is a TIL 
(Threaded Interpretive Language). This is also called indirect-threaded 
code, but direct-threaded and subroutine threaded Forths have also 
become popular in modern times. The fastest modern Forths use subroutine 
threading, insert simple words as macros, and perform peephole 
optimization or other optimizing strategies to make the code smaller and 
faster.[26]
</quote>

1. The original Forth which follows the informal FIG standard (Forth 
Interest Group),

--- Really?

2. This is also called indirect-threaded code, but direct-threaded and 
subroutine threaded Forths have also become popular in modern times.

--- One could say that in 1990(ninenteenhundredandninety) after nearly 
10 years of using direct threaded and subroutine/native threaded Forth 
systems (popular on mainly non-PC systems). In retrospect, this is 
ancient times, not modern times! There's a link on the Wiki page to such 
a Forth: GraForth (1982 version).

In stead, looking back, we can now (2017) say: rather early the 
dominance of an implementation strategy was ignored in favor of whatever 
the worker in the field found appropriate (speed). You get
the gist.

This can be seen as a very positive event and should be advertised as 
such. Especially since dpANS started in the 1980ies to mandate and 
facilitate those systems and user behavior where possible AFAIK.

Cheers, -r

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#55154

Fromhughaguilar96@gmail.com
Date2017-02-26 20:02 -0800
Message-ID<ece548d1-dfa3-44e9-872e-0eeea1ece5c0@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#55093
On Saturday, February 25, 2017 at 1:14:24 AM UTC-7, Elizabeth D. Rather wrote:
> I just read the Wikipedia entry for the first time in a while... it has 
> been extensively re-written since the last time I looked at it. It has 
> serious organizational problems (topics explained repeatedly with 
> different words and examples), but is not inaccurate. It would probably 
> appeal more to computer science folk than the descriptions I've provided 
> in the past, but that may be a good thing. I would like to see some more 
> application examples, and if I have time in the next few days I may try 
> to add some.

You're going to write Forth code??? I can't wait to see this!!!

I removed all of my Forth code from Wikipedia (the reference to ASSOCIATION.4TH in the LLRB-tree page, for example) on the basis that it was: "original research." You go ahead and post some of your own Forth code though --- you have never posted any Forth code on comp.lang.forth that wasn't copied directly out of the "Starting Forth" book --- but now you say that you are going to post some "application examples" on the Wikipedia page...

This should be interesting! Or, at least, entertaining...

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#55155

Fromrickman <gnuarm@gmail.com>
Date2017-02-26 23:08 -0500
Message-ID<o908k1$l6j$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#55154
On 2/26/2017 11:02 PM, hughaguilar96@gmail.com wrote:
>
> This should be interesting! Or, at least, entertaining...

Why are you here?  This group is a constant source of irritation for 
you.  You can't seem to get along with anyone who doesn't share your 
paranoid delusions.  Does posting here somehow make your life better?

-- 

Rick C

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#55158

FromCecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com>
Date2017-02-26 23:27 -0600
Message-ID<o90d93$vgn$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#55155
On 2/26/2017 10:08 PM, rickman wrote:
> On 2/26/2017 11:02 PM, hughaguilar96@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> This should be interesting! Or, at least, entertaining...
>
> Why are you here?  This group is a constant source of irritation for
> you.  You can't seem to get along with anyone who doesn't share your
> paranoid delusions.  Does posting here somehow make your life better?
>

To bring joy to your heart in an otherwise boring day.

-- 
Cecil - k5nwa

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#55161

Fromrickman <gnuarm@gmail.com>
Date2017-02-27 01:21 -0500
Message-ID<o90gd5$6nj$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#55158
On 2/27/2017 12:27 AM, Cecil Bayona wrote:
> On 2/26/2017 10:08 PM, rickman wrote:
>> On 2/26/2017 11:02 PM, hughaguilar96@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>> This should be interesting! Or, at least, entertaining...
>>
>> Why are you here?  This group is a constant source of irritation for
>> you.  You can't seem to get along with anyone who doesn't share your
>> paranoid delusions.  Does posting here somehow make your life better?
>>
>
> To bring joy to your heart in an otherwise boring day.

Yes, thank you for reminding me...

-- 

Rick C

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