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  4th.CoSy : Is your head small enough ? Bob Armstrong <bob@cosy.com> - 2016-03-27 14:30 -0700
    Re: 4th.CoSy : Is your head small enough ? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-03-27 15:03 -0700
      Re: 4th.CoSy : Is your head small enough ? "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-28 04:20 +0000
      Re: 4th.CoSy : Is your head small enough ? Bob Armstrong <bob@cosy.com> - 2016-03-28 12:50 -0700
        Re: 4th.CoSy : Is your head small enough ? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-03-28 13:53 -0700
          Re: 4th.CoSy : Is your head small enough ? foxaudioresearch@gmail.com - 2016-03-28 18:32 -0700
            Re: 4th.CoSy : Is your head small enough ? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-03-28 21:40 -0700
            Re: 4th.CoSy : Is your head small enough ? Bob Armstrong <bob@cosy.com> - 2016-03-29 10:47 -0700
      Re: 4th.CoSy : Is your head small enough ? "Ala'a" <amalawi@gmail.com> - 2016-03-28 14:00 -0700
        Re: 4th.CoSy : Is your head small enough ? Bob Armstrong <bob@cosy.com> - 2016-03-29 09:47 -0700
    Re: 4th.CoSy : Is your head small enough ? "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-28 04:44 +0000
      Re: 4th.CoSy : Is your head small enough ? "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-28 04:54 +0000
        Re: 4th.CoSy : Is your head small enough ? Bob Armstrong <bob@cosy.com> - 2016-03-28 14:03 -0700
          Re: 4th.CoSy : Is your head small enough ? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-03-28 14:46 -0700
            Re: 4th.CoSy : Is your head small enough ? Bob Armstrong <bob@cosy.com> - 2016-03-29 10:34 -0700
          Re: 4th.CoSy : Is your head small enough ? Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2016-03-30 18:18 +0300
        Re: 4th.CoSy : Is your head small enough ? "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-28 21:37 +0000
      Re: 4th.CoSy : Is your head small enough ? "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-30 09:44 +0000
    Re: 4th.CoSy : Is your head small enough ? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-03-28 11:34 -0700
      Re: 4th.CoSy : Is your head small enough ? Bob Armstrong <bob@cosy.com> - 2016-03-28 13:48 -0700
      Re: 4th.CoSy : Is your head small enough ? Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2016-03-29 06:56 +0300
        Re: 4th.CoSy : Is your head small enough ? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-03-28 21:53 -0700
          Re: 4th.CoSy : Is your head small enough ? Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2016-03-29 08:27 +0300
            Re: 4th.CoSy : Is your head small enough ? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-04-02 00:25 -0700
              Re: 4th.CoSy : Is your head small enough ? Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2016-04-03 06:54 +0300
                Re: 4th.CoSy : Is your head small enough ? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-04-02 21:59 -0700
                  Re: 4th.CoSy : Is your head small enough ? Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2016-04-03 12:25 +0300
                    Re: 4th.CoSy : Is your head small enough ? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-04-04 01:51 -0700
                      Hugh, you are an asshat Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2016-04-04 13:07 +0300
                        Re: Hugh, you are an asshat hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-04-04 14:08 -0700
                          Re: Hugh, you are an asshat Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2016-04-05 07:31 +0300
                            Re: Hugh, you are an asshat Bill Cummins <billc@cummins.net> - 2016-04-05 05:55 +0000
                              Re: Hugh, you are an asshat Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2016-04-05 11:12 +0300
                                Re: Hugh, you are an asshat hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-04-05 01:24 -0700
                      Re: 4th.CoSy : Is your head small enough ? Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2016-04-04 10:16 +0000
                        Re: 4th.CoSy : Is your head small enough ? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-04-04 04:26 -0700
          OT: Hugh changed to Israel and religion, was [Re: 4th.CoSy : Is your head small enough ?] Rod Pemberton <NoHaveNotOne@bcczxcfre.cmm> - 2016-04-02 12:03 -0400

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#46269

On 28/03/2016 21:34, hughaguilar96@gmail.com wrote:

> I don't want to run Reva on my computer because it comes from Israel and hence may have viruses ...

Yep, it sure does.  It has the "the source code is free and open to the
public" virus.  Hope you don't catch it, you ignorant jackass.

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#46271

On Monday, March 28, 2016 at 8:56:48 PM UTC-7, Ron Aaron wrote:
> On 28/03/2016 21:34, hughaguilar96@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> > I don't want to run Reva on my computer because it comes from Israel and hence may have viruses ...
> 
> Yep, it sure does.  It has the "the source code is free and open to the
> public" virus.  Hope you don't catch it, you ignorant jackass.

There is no guarantee that the source-code that you provide is the same as the source-code that generated the executable. Also, I don't really have the time or the expertise to go through your source-code line-by-line looking for jew-tricks.

Nigeria, Israel, Russia, Red China and North Korea are all enemy nations that are dedicated to stealing everything they can from America. Running an executable on my computer that I got from Israel is about as ignorant as giving my bank-account information to a Nigerian princess who sends me an email saying that she wants to deposit a million dollars in my bank-account. I'm not saying that every Nigerian or every Israeli is a thief, but all of those governments mentioned above either actively sponsor or at least condone espionage and/or cyber-attacks against America. 

Anybody who claims to be the "Chosen People of God" is a jackass! That is a grossly offensive claim to make.

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#46273

On 03/29/2016 07:53, hughaguilar96@gmail.com wrote:

> There is no guarantee that the source-code that you provide is the same as the source-code that generated the executable. 

Sure there is.  You recompile it and compare.  Or is that beyond your
abilities, Ramon Raton?

As usual, none of the rest of the rant is germane to Forth or related
subjects, but I can't stop myself...


> Also, I don't really have the time or the expertise to go through your source-code line-by-line looking for jew-tricks.

Right.  We're a tricky bunch.  So: you're saying I'm so clever I can
conceal "jew-tricks" in the open sources which you can recompile
yourself, which you can compare yourself, and which (at least) hundreds
of other people have been using daily for years.  I'm not usually
credited with that much subtlety, though I suppose I should be pleased
that my grandiose schemes for world domination are shaping up so nicely.

So if you haven't the ability to go over a few thousand lines of
straightforward assembly code, how are you ever going to produce your
Forth Reich/Straight Forth/DumbTard Forth ?

> Nigeria, Israel, Russia, Red China and North Korea are all enemy nations that are dedicated to stealing everything they can from America. Running an executable on my computer that I got from Israel is about as ignorant as giving my bank-account information to a Nigerian princess who sends me an email saying that she wants to deposit a million dollars in my bank-account. I'm not saying that every Nigerian or every Israeli is a thief, but all of those governments mentioned above either actively sponsor or at least condone espionage and/or cyber-attacks against America. 

Yadda yadda.  Better pack up your computer, your cell-phone and destroy
them.  Israeli technology inside.  Your router?  Same-o.  Using medical
technology?  Better not!  Mossad inside.  Whip out that tin-foil hat,
pendejo.


> Anybody who claims to be the "Chosen People of God" is a jackass! That is a grossly offensive claim to make.

Only to one as incredibly idiotic as you, since you neither care to
understand the "claim", nor have any idea what it actually means - nor,
probably the ability to understand it were it explained to you in short
sentences.

But I am curious as to what your seething hatred of Jews is about.  Ever
since I nearly vomited my lunch when reading your "Ramon Raton" missive
many years ago, I knew you were a certifiable nutter.  But even
monomaniacs have reasons, at least in their own minds.

I guess it's like watching a slow-motion train wreck - you just can't
avert your gaze.

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#46408

On Monday, March 28, 2016 at 10:27:19 PM UTC-7, Ron Aaron wrote:
> On 03/29/2016 07:53, hughaguilar96@gmail.com wrote:
> > Anybody who claims to be the "Chosen People of God" is a jackass! That is a grossly offensive claim to make.
> 
> Only to one as incredibly idiotic as you, since you neither care to
> understand the "claim", nor have any idea what it actually means - nor,
> probably the ability to understand it were it explained to you in short
> sentences.

Israel uses white-phosphorous bombs to punish people who refuse to accept their claim of being the "Chosen People of God."

That was a short sentence --- does that pretty much explain what you are?

In summary: I recommend that no decent human being ever associate with any Israeli under any circumstance, because doing so makes that person complicit in war crimes.

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#46426

On 02/04/2016 10:25, hughaguilar96@gmail.com wrote:

> Israel uses white-phosphorous bombs to punish people who refuse to accept their claim of being the "Chosen People of God."

Three lies in one sentence?  That might be a record.
For the record, BTW, The "WP bombs" is a lie, and even the anti-Israel
UN backed off that accusation:

http://www.thomaswictor.com/they-lied-about-white-phosphorus/


> That was a short sentence --- does that pretty much explain what you are?

You don't know me at all, so no - it doesn't, even if it were a true
statement in any of its particulars.

Get yourself a good psychiatrist and get some help.  You really need it.

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#46428

On Saturday, April 2, 2016 at 8:54:30 PM UTC-7, Ron Aaron wrote:
> On 02/04/2016 10:25, hughaguilar96@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> > Israel uses white-phosphorous bombs to punish people who refuse to accept their claim of being the "Chosen People of God."
> 
> Three lies in one sentence?  That might be a record.
> For the record, BTW, The "WP bombs" is a lie, and even the anti-Israel
> UN backed off that accusation:
> 
> http://www.thomaswictor.com/they-lied-about-white-phosphorus/

I read your Israeli-propaganda website. Here is a quote:

"And why did the Human Rights Watch idiot say that you can't use weapons on the public in the rear? I guess we now know what's always on his mind.

Palestinian "burn victims" are either faking it, or they were burned in accidents, or they were doused in gasoline and set alight by Hamas."

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#46439

On 04/03/2016 07:59, hughaguilar96@gmail.com wrote:

> Palestinian "burn victims" are either faking it, or they were burned in accidents, or they were doused in gasoline and set alight by Hamas."

The Google search term you're looking for is 'Pallywood'.

And I'm sure the members of this group would like to get back to
discussing Forth et al.

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#46463

On Sunday, April 3, 2016 at 2:25:47 AM UTC-7, Ron Aaron wrote:
> On 04/03/2016 07:59, hughaguilar96@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> > Palestinian "burn victims" are either faking it, or they were burned in accidents, or they were doused in gasoline and set alight by Hamas."
> 
> The Google search term you're looking for is 'Pallywood'.

Well, that was some artful editing --- you made it appear that I wrote the statement: Palestinian "burn victims" are either faking it, or they were burned in accidents, or they were doused in gasoline and set alight by Hamas.

I didn't write that. That is a quote from the Israeli-propaganda website that you promoted. It is obviously a lie. White-phosphorous burns all the way down to the bone, whereas gasoline just burns on the skin --- the idea that the Palestinians are faking white-phosphorous burns is absurd.

> And I'm sure the members of this group would like to get back to
> discussing Forth et al.

You are the one who is using comp.lang.forth as a platform to promote your claim that you are God's Chosen.

You and Elizabeth Rather are quite a lot alike. She claims that she is Charles Moore's Chosen, and this makes her inherently better than all Forth programmers. You claim that you are God's Chosen, and this makes you inherently better than all humanity.

Most (maybe all) successful Forth projects were done in a version of Forth that was not ANS-Forth compatible (this includes VFX projects, because Pelc routinely abandons ANS-Forth compatibility to trap his customers in vendor lock-in). Similarly, of the 7 billion people on the planet, 6.99 billion are not God's Chosen and we are apparently just superfluous --- a pretty wasteful god that you have! --- and your god considers us to be so unimportant that he is okay with you burning us alive with white-phosphorous and then making up glib lies about it afterward. 

The point that I'm making is that the Jews worship Satan --- Satan is the only god that is totally focused on supporting a chosen group of faithful, and considers the rest of humanity to be worthless.

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#46478 — Hugh, you are an asshat

Hugh, Hugh, Hugh!  You are such an asshat.  What will we ever do with you?

On 04/04/2016 11:51, hughaguilar96@gmail.com wrote:

> Well, that was some artful editing --- you made it appear that I wrote the statement: Palestinian "burn victims" are either faking it, or they were burned in accidents, or they were doused in gasoline and set alight by Hamas.

No, it was snipping to provide enough context for the following
statement.  But as usual, you didn't understand, because you think
people can't read in context.  Most CLF readers probably can.


> I didn't write that. That is a quote from the Israeli-propaganda website that you promoted. It is obviously a lie.

The guy writing on that site is neither Israeli nor is he Jewish, nor is
the site Israeli (or Jewish).


> You are the one who is using comp.lang.forth as a platform to promote your claim that you are God's Chosen.

And here your true asshattery manifests itself.  I've never made such a
claim.  YOU are the one consistently making the claim.  Dunno what to
make of that, really, except that you're a real asshat with all the
trimmin's.


> You and Elizabeth Rather are quite a lot alike. 

You're right!  We're the "Boys From Brazil", only she's female and I'm
male.  And we're not close to the same age, nor do we have the same
political or religious opinions.  And we live on literally opposite
sides of the planet.  But... we do both like Forth, so there's that.


> ... You claim that you are God's Chosen, and this makes you inherently better than all humanity.

Once again, just for the record; I don't nor have I ever made that
claim.  But you just keep going, like a bad record.  Unfortunately,
unlike a bad record, we can't shut you up.

You *can* stop being an asshat.  Just remove your head from your ass.

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#46485 — Re: Hugh, you are an asshat

On Monday, April 4, 2016 at 3:07:28 AM UTC-7, Ron Aaron wrote:
> Hugh, Hugh, Hugh!  You are such an asshat.  What will we ever do with you?
> 
> On 04/04/2016 11:51, hughaguilar96@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> > Well, that was some artful editing --- you made it appear that I wrote the statement: Palestinian "burn victims" are either faking it, or they were burned in accidents, or they were doused in gasoline and set alight by Hamas.
> 
> No, it was snipping to provide enough context for the following
> statement.  But as usual, you didn't understand, because you think
> people can't read in context.  Most CLF readers probably can.
> 
> 
> > I didn't write that. That is a quote from the Israeli-propaganda website that you promoted. It is obviously a lie.
> 
> The guy writing on that site is neither Israeli nor is he Jewish, nor is
> the site Israeli (or Jewish).

Well, here is the quote from the website:
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
And why did the Human Rights Watch idiot say that you can't use weapons on the public in the rear? I guess we now know what's always on his mind.
Palestinian "burn victims" are either faking it, or they were burned in accidents, or they were doused in gasoline and set alight by Hamas.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

You seriously want people to accept this as objective reporting? That is an insult to our intelligence.

You toss out glib lies such as this because you believe that you are the Chosen People of God and that this gives you the right to commit crimes and casually lie about it afterward, and everybody who is not Chosen by God has to just accept it.

Why does the IDF use white-phosphorous on civilian targets rather than just use conventional explosives like they did in the past? There are two reasons:
1.) Conventional explosives kill the people quickly, but the IDF wants them to suffer a prolonged death which is what white-phosphorous provides.
2.) Conventional explosives are for conventional people, but white-phosphorous is clearly illegal, so the blatant use of white-phosphorous allows Israel to thumb its nose at the world --- a very dramatic way of showing the world that Israel is important enough to publicly break the law as well as flout all ethical standards with no consequences whatsoever.

> > You are the one who is using comp.lang.forth as a platform to promote your claim that you are God's Chosen.
> 
> And here your true asshattery manifests itself.  I've never made such a
> claim.  YOU are the one consistently making the claim.  Dunno what to
> make of that, really, except that you're a real asshat with all the
> trimmin's.

As a citizen of Israel you are required to be a Jew, which means that you are required to claim to be the Chosen People of God. 

If you refuse to claim here on comp.lang.forth that you are the Chosen People of God, you will get your citizenship in Israel revoked. As I said, there is a lot of conflict in Israel between the super-loyal totally-Jewish citizens and the fakers who are just pretending to be Jews in order to reap the American foreign-aid money.

Why are you not willing to claim to be the Chosen People of God? I think that you are just one of the fakers who is in Israel for the foreign-aid money but doesn't actually believe any of that horse-shit about the Jews being the Chosen People of God. Most likely you are an atheist and the only thing you believe is that you want to be on the receiving end of billions of dollars in American foreign-aid, and you want to get a sick thrill out of burning civilians with white-phosphorous, so you fake up enough Jewishness to maintain your Israeli citizenship even though you know that it is all horse-shit.

If you refuse to state in public (comp.lang.forth is a public forum) that you are the Chosen People of God, you will get your citizenship in Israel revoked --- the Israeli government is not tolerant of fakers --- there is no such thing as freedom of speech in Israel, but every Israeli is required to publicly say that they are the Chosen People of God.

> > You and Elizabeth Rather are quite a lot alike. 
> 
> You're right!  We're the "Boys From Brazil", only she's female and I'm
> male.  And we're not close to the same age, nor do we have the same
> political or religious opinions.  And we live on literally opposite
> sides of the planet.  But... we do both like Forth, so there's that.

I like Forth programming, but I don't claim that my code is Standard and that everybody else's code is non-standard. Also, I actually program in Forth, whereas Elizabeth Rather just posts Forth code snippets copied out of the "Starting Forth" book but doesn't actually program in Forth. Elizabeth Rather is completely different from me in every way.

ANS-Forth is a cult very comparable to how Judaism is a cult. In both cases, it is all about loyalty. Every ANS-Forth programmer is required to be loyal to Elizabeth Rather and solemnly accept her idiotic pronouncements about Forth programming. For example, Stephen Pelc never contradicts her when she teaches everybody that PAD is the standard place to hold strings but he cheerfully accepts her as the "leading expert" of Forth. Then, we had this exchange:

On Saturday, March 5, 2016 at 4:22:03 AM UTC-7, Stephen Pelc wrote:
> On Fri, 4 Mar 2016 15:07:29 -0800 (PST), hughaguilar96@gmail.com
> wrote:
> 
> > Stephen Pelc says: "For practical applications, all Forth standards to
> > date have been inadequate for commercial level string handling."
> 
> Yes, I said that
> 
> > Oh nooooooo! A Forth-200x committee member says=
> > that Forth can't be used for "practical applications" involving "commercia=
> >l level string handling"
> 
> No, I did not say that. The solution in Forth, as you well know, is to
> expand the base Forth system to have a commercial-level string
> handling package. That's what several of our clients have done.

Effectively, what this means is that he wants to make money by selling a "commercial-level string handling package" to his clients. He not only makes money on selling them the package, but he also traps them in vendor lock-in because his "commercial-level string handling package" only works on VFX and is not ANS-Forth code internally. Pelc's money-making scheme only works well when ANS-Forth is crippled --- he is happy to have E.R. promote PAD as the standard way to hold strings because this makes his "commercial-level string handling package" seem to be worth the money relatively. Pelc is on the Forth-200x committee and he is not going to accept my string-stack.4th which is written in ANS-Forth because making this available for free to his clients will undermine his sales pitch in which he tells them that the only way they can have a "commercial-level string handling package" is by paying him for it.

> > ... You claim that you are God's Chosen, and this makes you inherently better than all humanity.
> 
> Once again, just for the record; I don't nor have I ever made that
> claim.  

Be sure to tell the government officials in Israel about your record of disloyalty to Israel's fundamental creed that Israelis are the Chosen People of God --- you are going to get kicked out of Israel for your disloyalty! --- your house will be given to another better Israeli (possibly a recent immigrant from Russia who is newly minted as an Israeli citizen). This Israeli will go on public forums such as comp.lang.forth and claim to be the Chosen People of God. Most likely this Israeli will just be a fake Jew same as you, but better at faking --- able to tell the big lies with a straight face as if he actually believed that horse-shit.

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#46494 — Re: Hugh, you are an asshat

Seriously, Hugh, you need to seek professional help. Preferably help
which has access to physical restraints and strong medications.

On the off chance someone reading your screeds takes them seriously,
I'll address just two issues:

On 05/04/2016 00:08, hughaguilar96@gmail.com wrote:

> Why does the IDF use white-phosphorous on civilian targets rather
> than just use conventional explosives like they did in the past?
> There are two reasons:

You keep stating that the IDF uses WP as a weapon.  It doesn't, and it
didn't, and even the (notoriously anti-Israel) UN finally admitted
that.  You keep repeating that lie, but repetition does not make it
more true.

What the IDF *did* use was WP *munitions*.  For those of you who were
never in the military: WP munitions of the type used are deployed to
create a smoke screen, and they burn out *before* they reach the
ground.   They are internationally used by all armies, to create smoke
in order to obscure troop movements.  They are not illegal, and cause
no damage to either property or persons.

> As a citizen of Israel you are required to be a Jew, which means
> that you are required to claim to be the Chosen People of God.

This is another ridiculous lie, which even one Google search can
disprove.

About 20% of the Israeli citizenry are Arab Muslims.  None of those
Muslims is a Jew (I only state that to forestall any idiotic assertion
you might make).  One of those Muslims is a Supreme Court judge.  A
number of them are members of the Knesset (the Israeli Parliament).  A
number serve in the IDF and Israeli Police.  Many serve as doctors in
the major hospitals (in fact, I recently had a consult with an Arab
Muslim specialist.  He didn't ask my religion, nor I his.).  The rest
are lawyers, plumbers, accountants, chefs and whatever else anyone
else is.

Another chunk of citizens are Christians (mostly Arabs, but some
immigrants as well).  Yet another chunk are Druze, or Circassians or
other more exotic varieties of humanity.  None of those are Jews.

Only about 75% of the citizens of Israel are Jewish.  About half (more
or less) are completely non-religious (what's termed 'secular' in
Israel).  The rest are split between "traditional" and various kinds
of "religious".  I'm in that last minority, somewhere.

Now that I've set the record straight, I'll let you have the last word
(as you must).

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#46497 — Re: Hugh, you are an asshat

On 2016-04-05, Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> wrote:
> Seriously, Hugh, you need to seek professional help. Preferably help
> which has access to physical restraints and strong medications.

Agreed. I killfiled the sonofabitch years ago in all of usenet. If you would
quit quoting the dumb sonofabitch we wouldn't have to see his posts ;-)

Bill

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#46513 — Re: Hugh, you are an asshat

On 04/05/2016 08:55, Bill Cummins wrote:

> Agreed. I killfiled the sonofabitch years ago in all of usenet. If you would
> quit quoting the dumb sonofabitch we wouldn't have to see his posts ;-)

Sorry :)

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#46517 — Re: Hugh, you are an asshat

On Tuesday, April 5, 2016 at 1:12:35 AM UTC-7, Ron Aaron wrote:
> On 04/05/2016 08:55, Bill Cummins wrote:
> 
> > Agreed. I killfiled the sonofabitch years ago in all of usenet. If you would
> > quit quoting the dumb sonofabitch we wouldn't have to see his posts ;-)
> 
> Sorry :)

This "Bill Cummins" has never posted a message anywhere on usenet prior to this message --- this is almost certainly a sock-puppet of Ron Aaron.

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#46479

hughaguilar96@gmail.com writes:

<SNIP>
>The point that I'm making is that the Jews worship Satan --- Satan is the o=
>nly god that is totally focused on supporting a chosen group of faithful, a=
>nd considers the rest of humanity to be worthless.

I know quite some people of Jewish descent. They are all "gewoon niks":
"just nothing" (We don't use the word atheist in Holland)

Groetjes Albert
-- 
Albert van der Horst, UTRECHT,THE NETHERLANDS
Economic growth -- being exponential -- ultimately falters.
albert@spe&ar&c.xs4all.nl &=n http://home.hccnet.nl/a.w.m.van.der.horst

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#46480

On Monday, April 4, 2016 at 3:16:30 AM UTC-7, Albert van der Horst wrote:
> hughaguilar96@gmail.com writes:
> 
> <SNIP>
> >The point that I'm making is that the Jews worship Satan --- Satan is the o=
> >nly god that is totally focused on supporting a chosen group of faithful, a=
> >nd considers the rest of humanity to be worthless.
> 
> I know quite some people of Jewish descent. They are all "gewoon niks":
> "just nothing" (We don't use the word atheist in Holland)

I don't have anything against people of Jewish descent --- that is just an ethnicity (race) --- people don't have any control over their ethnic descent, and it doesn't have any significant effect anyway.

There are no "gewoon niks" in Israel though --- Israelis are required to believe the whole "Chosen People of God" spiel, or they get their citizenship revoked and they have to leave --- citizenship is important because it means free land and American foreign-aid.

There is a big controversy in Israel because the people of obvious Jewish descent (big noses) complain that most of the immigrants aren't actually of Jewish descent but are just faking up the faith in order to obtain the free land and American foreign-aid. A lot of the Israelis are Russian immigrants and they don't look very Jewish, but their ethnicity appears to just be Russian. The irony here is that we now have an effort to require Israelis to provide genealogy records to prove that they are really of Jewish descent and aren't just faking --- this is remarkably similar to how the Nazis required the Germans to provide genealogy records to prove that they weren't of Jewish descent.

What is really dumb about this is that we now know that there is almost no genetic difference between the various races, and other than a few superficial features there isn't any significant difference between the races. In the 19th century it was assumed that there was a huge difference between the races, but now that the human genome has been mapped we know that this isn't true. So, it is not really possible for God to have a Chosen People because nobody (including God) can discern the difference between their DNA well enough to draw an exact line between the races.

As a practical matter, there isn't all that much difference between a Satanist and an atheist. You have somebody who commits war crimes, such as using white-phosphorous on civilian targets, and he says that he has the right to do this. Maybe he thinks that Satan gave him this right, or maybe he is an atheist sociopath --- it is really just a matter of semantics --- the end result is the same either way.

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#46416 — OT: Hugh changed to Israel and religion, was [Re: 4th.CoSy : Is your head small enough ?]

On Mon, 28 Mar 2016 21:53:18 -0700 (PDT)
hughaguilar96@gmail.com wrote:

> Anybody who claims to be the "Chosen People of God" is a
> jackass! That is a grossly offensive claim to make.

Why?  That's what Revelations in the New Testament says.
Jewish don't believe in the New Testament.  Christians do.

The New Testament portion of the Holy Bible KJV tells you
*exactly* who is going to make it into Heaven.  In Revelations
7:3, 7:4, 14:1, 14:3, and 14:4.  Specifically, the "servants
of our God" are 144,000 "from the tribes of the children of
Israel" who stand with "a Lamb" (Christ) on mount Sion, have
"his Father's name written in their" foreheads, sing a song
"before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders,"
and who are "not defiled with women; for they are virgins" who
are "redeemed among men" and "redeemed from the earth" and are
the "firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb."

If you truly believe that the Bible is the word of God, then
you as a Christian must also accept that you're not making
into Heaven even though you accepted Christ as your savior,
since only the 144,000 do.

Why would Christ and God need lots of prepubescent Jewish boys?
The Bible implies Christ and God are either female pedophiles
or male pederasts.  A female God and Christ is not acceptable
to Christians.  People wonder why Christians churches have
problems with male pederasts.  Now, you know.  It's holy.
Yes, the Bible uses the word: "firstfruits," which can be taken
as a double entendre here meaning "twink" if male, much like
numerous other sexual euphemisms in the Bible, and "twink"
is clearly the meaning accepted by many pederastic Priests.
What do you think about your gay Bible now Hugh? ...

Christians never read their Bible.  So, they don't ever learn
about this bizarre stuff which they claim to believe in because
the Holy Bible is the absolute word of God, like the "four
beasts" in Heaven above, or that Christ and God have "elders."
Why are there beasts in Heaven?  Why is God opposing the "beast"
if some "beasts" are already in Heaven sitting on thrones?  If
God is God, why are are there even older "elders" in Heaven?
Are the "elders" preventing God from deposing the "beast"?
That would imply God's love is not all encompassing.  If markings
on the hands and head represent the "beast" (Rev. 14:9), why do
God and Christ's followers *also* have markings on their head?
(Rev. 14:1).  Like I said, bizarre, irrational, stuff.


Rod Pemberton

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