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Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad

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First post2015-04-02 21:08 -0400
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  Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-04-02 21:08 -0400
    Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-04-13 21:47 -0400
    Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-04-16 23:37 -0400
      Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-16 20:59 -0700
        Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad Mel Wilson <mwilson@the-wire.com> - 2015-04-17 13:16 +0000
      Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-04-17 00:19 -0400
        Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-16 21:56 -0700
          Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-04-17 14:47 -0400
            WAS: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad  IS: Thunderbird Line Breaking rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-04-17 15:12 -0400
              Re: WAS: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad  IS: Thunderbird Line Breaking Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-04-17 20:14 +0000
                Re: WAS: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad  IS: Thunderbird Line Breaking rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-04-17 16:59 -0400
              Re: WAS: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad  IS: Thunderbird Line Breaking David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-04-18 10:00 +0200
                Re: WAS: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad  IS: Thunderbird Line Breaking rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-04-18 09:32 -0400
                  Re: WAS: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad  IS: Thunderbird Line Breaking Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-04-18 15:15 +0000
                    Re: WAS: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad  IS: Thunderbird Line Breaking rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-04-18 11:31 -0400
                  Re: WAS: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad  IS: Thunderbird Line   Breaking Niklas Holsti <niklas.holsti@tidorum.invalid> - 2015-04-18 19:21 +0300
                    Re: WAS: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad  IS: Thunderbird Line   Breaking rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-04-19 16:39 -0400
                  Re: WAS: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad  IS: Thunderbird Line Breaking Alan Adams <alan@adamshome.org.uk> - 2015-04-18 18:52 +0100
                  Re: WAS: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad  IS: Thunderbird Line Breaking "Rod Pemberton" <bork@lllljunkqwer.cpm> - 2015-04-18 18:55 -0400
                    Re: WAS: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad  IS: Thunderbird Line Breaking The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-04-19 09:13 +0100
                    Re: WAS: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad  IS: Thunderbird Line Breaking Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com> - 2015-04-19 13:22 +0300
                      Re: WAS: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad  IS: Thunderbird Line Breaking David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-04-19 22:09 +0200
            Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad mm0fmf <none@mailinator.com> - 2015-04-17 21:15 +0100
              Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-04-17 17:02 -0400
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad mm0fmf <none@mailinator.com> - 2015-04-18 17:06 +0100
                  Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-04-19 16:57 -0400
                    Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad Alan Adams <alan@adamshome.org.uk> - 2015-04-20 09:33 +0100
                    Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad mm0fmf <none@mailinator.com> - 2015-04-20 18:03 +0100
                      Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-04-21 01:16 -0400
            Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-04-17 20:20 -0400
              Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-17 17:24 -0700
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-04-17 20:40 -0400
                  Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-17 17:57 -0700
              Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-04-18 10:04 +0200
              Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad Jan Coombs <Jan-54 <jenfhaomndgfwutc@murmic.plus.com>> - 2015-04-18 09:38 +0100
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-04-18 11:04 -0400
                  Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-04-18 17:54 +0200
                  Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad hal-usenet@ip-64-139-1-69.sjc.megapath.net (Hal Murray) - 2015-04-18 15:36 -0500
                  Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad Theo Markettos <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2015-04-23 07:59 +0100
                    Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-04-25 14:35 -0400
                      Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-04-25 15:44 -0400
                        Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-05-08 12:00 -0400
                          Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-05-10 03:36 -0400
                            Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad Theo Markettos <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2015-05-10 10:32 +0100
                              Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad Tauno Voipio <tauno.voipio@notused.fi.invalid> - 2015-05-10 12:56 +0300
                              Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-05-10 10:48 -0400
                                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-05-10 16:05 +0100
                                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-05-10 08:55 -0700
                                  Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-05-10 13:13 -0400
                                    Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-05-10 15:34 -0400
                            Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2015-05-10 11:41 +0000
                              Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad Theo Markettos <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2015-05-10 16:56 +0100
                                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-05-10 13:01 -0400
        Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-04-18 19:22 +0000
          Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-04-19 17:04 -0400
            Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad Tauno Voipio <tauno.voipio@notused.fi.invalid> - 2015-04-20 13:24 +0300
              Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-04-22 13:23 -0400
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com> - 2015-04-22 20:44 +0300
                  Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-04-22 13:51 -0400
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad Waldek Hebisch <hebisch@math.uni.wroc.pl> - 2015-04-22 19:10 +0000
                  Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-04-22 15:31 -0400
                    Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad Waldek Hebisch <hebisch@math.uni.wroc.pl> - 2015-04-23 02:08 +0000
                      Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad Waldek Hebisch <hebisch@math.uni.wroc.pl> - 2015-04-24 02:52 +0000
                        Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-04-25 14:40 -0400
                          Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-04-25 15:42 -0400
      Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2015-04-17 10:52 +0000
        Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com> - 2015-04-17 14:05 +0300
        Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-17 07:56 -0700
          Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-04-17 17:26 +0200
          Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2015-04-17 17:01 +0000
      Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad Blajrs Jrolrsen <boegre@no.com> - 2015-04-17 13:36 +0000
        Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-04-17 14:42 +0000
          Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad Hans-Bernhard Bröker <HBBroeker@t-online.de> - 2015-04-18 00:25 +0200
            Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-04-17 20:03 -0400
              Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-17 17:14 -0700
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-04-17 20:26 -0400
                  Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-17 17:32 -0700
                    Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-04-17 20:47 -0400
                    Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2015-04-18 08:47 +0000
                      Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-04-18 11:19 -0400
                        Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2015-04-18 15:52 +0000
                          Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-04-19 17:07 -0400
                          Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-06-09 03:04 -0400
              Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2015-04-18 00:11 -0500
              Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-04-18 10:32 +0200
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-04-18 11:26 -0400
                  Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-04-18 17:57 +0200
                    Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-18 09:42 -0700
                      Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-04-19 17:11 -0400
              Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad Hans-Bernhard Bröker <HBBroeker@t-online.de> - 2015-04-18 12:19 +0200
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com> - 2015-04-18 15:16 +0300
                  Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-04-18 19:57 +0200
                    Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com> - 2015-04-18 23:11 +0300
                      Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-04-19 21:32 +0200
                        Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com> - 2015-04-19 23:04 +0300
            Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-04-18 09:15 +0000
              Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-04-18 12:17 +0200
                Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-04-18 13:08 +0000
                  Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-04-18 20:17 +0200
                    Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-04-20 15:33 +0000
        Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-04-17 14:52 -0400
        Re: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2015-04-17 20:06 +0000

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#37861 — Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad

Fromrickman <gnuarm@gmail.com>
Date2015-04-02 21:08 -0400
SubjectMecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad
Message-ID<mfkp4c$s28$1@dont-email.me>
I am trying out Mecrisp on a TI Stellaris Launchpad I have had for 
sometime.  This is a program to be loaded onto the Launchpad over the 
debug USB port using the on board debugger chip.  The Mecrisp 
instructions are shown here...

;------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hardware and configuration for LM4F120 and TM4C123:
;------------------------------------------------------------------------------
   Connect your cable to the Debug-USB-Port,
   set "PWR SELECT" switch to DEBUG and
   close VDD jumper.

   Flashing is possible with lm4flash:
   https://github.com/utzig/lm4tools

   On startup, this runs with internal PIOSC at 16 MHz,
   which is specified +-3% over whole temperature range.

I can figure out the switch part and I found the debug port.  But I am 
stumped with the lm4flash tool.  I managed to download the directory 
from github, but I don't see an executable, only sources.  Clearly I am 
expected to be able to compile C code on the PC, but it has likely been 
a decade since I've done that.  I don't even have a C compiler on this 
machine.

I guess the idea is that anyone wanting to use this flashing tool would 
be doing C development and so would be familiar with how to compile the 
sources.  I really don't want to have to figure out where to get C tools 
for the PC and how to get them running.  Heck, it might be easier in the 
long run to transcribe the program into Forth and run it that way.  800 
line of source counting white space, but few comments... oh, the code 
uses libusb-1.0 for USB.  I don't know how to deal with that.  Crap...

-- 

Rick

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#38178

Fromrickman <gnuarm@gmail.com>
Date2015-04-13 21:47 -0400
Message-ID<mghrhp$2b3$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#37861
On 4/13/2015 9:45 PM, rickman wrote:
> On 4/13/2015 7:33 PM, sbattazzo@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Monday, April 13, 2015 at 4:25:56 PM UTC-7, sbat...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Monday, April 13, 2015 at 4:18:08 PM UTC-7, sbat...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> On Thursday, April 2, 2015 at 6:08:24 PM UTC-7, rickman wrote:
>>>>> I am trying out Mecrisp on a TI Stellaris Launchpad I have had for
>>>>> sometime.  This is a program to be loaded onto the Launchpad over the
>>>>> debug USB port using the on board debugger chip.  The Mecrisp
>>>>> instructions are shown here...
>>>>>
>>>>> ;------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Hardware and configuration for LM4F120 and TM4C123:
>>>>> ;------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>>     Connect your cable to the Debug-USB-Port,
>>>>>     set "PWR SELECT" switch to DEBUG and
>>>>>     close VDD jumper.
>>>>>
>>>>>     Flashing is possible with lm4flash:
>>>>>     https://github.com/utzig/lm4tools
>>>>>
>>>>>     On startup, this runs with internal PIOSC at 16 MHz,
>>>>>     which is specified +-3% over whole temperature range.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can figure out the switch part and I found the debug port.  But I am
>>>>> stumped with the lm4flash tool.  I managed to download the directory
>>>>> from github, but I don't see an executable, only sources.  Clearly
>>>>> I am
>>>>> expected to be able to compile C code on the PC, but it has likely
>>>>> been
>>>>> a decade since I've done that.  I don't even have a C compiler on this
>>>>> machine.
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess the idea is that anyone wanting to use this flashing tool
>>>>> would
>>>>> be doing C development and so would be familiar with how to compile
>>>>> the
>>>>> sources.  I really don't want to have to figure out where to get C
>>>>> tools
>>>>> for the PC and how to get them running.  Heck, it might be easier
>>>>> in the
>>>>> long run to transcribe the program into Forth and run it that way.
>>>>> 800
>>>>> line of source counting white space, but few comments... oh, the code
>>>>> uses libusb-1.0 for USB.  I don't know how to deal with that.  Crap...
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Rick
>>>>
>>
>> Last reply to this thread.. if you're on Windows it looks like TI
>> provides what you need here: http://www.ti.com/tool/LMFLASHPROGRAMMER
>>
>> I'd be more than willing to bet it can accomplish the same task,
>> though it's TI proprietary rather than open source for Linux. Whoever
>> wrote up the instructions for that Mecrisp just probably hasn't tried
>> it out or thought about .
>
> Yes, I'm on windows and have downloaded the TI tool, but not yet tried
> to use it.  I would like to run this on a raspberry pi as it is much
> smaller and in some respects suits my lab use better than a PC.  I will try
> installing lm4flash the way you describe.
>
> There is a bit of irony in that to use a Forth tool I need to understand
> how to compile a C program.  lol  I am rather weary of learning all the
> ins and outs of complex tool, never knowing for sure what they are doing
> or if I am using them correctly.  That's the main motivator for using
> Forth on this target.  I'm trying to implement a rather simple function
> and would like to have a simple tool.  Even once I get this installed on
> the host machine and I get Mecrisp installed on the target, I will still
> need to learn the details of using Mecrisp.  At least then I am learning
> something I expect to use many times in the future.  I plan to help with
> the documentation of Mecrisp.  I think that is the big weakness of most
> open source tools, rather limited docs.

Oh, I forgot to say thanks.  Thanks  :)

-- 

Rick

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#38251

Fromrickman <gnuarm@gmail.com>
Date2015-04-16 23:37 -0400
Message-ID<mgpv33$469$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#37861
On 4/16/2015 6:11 PM, Paul Rubin wrote:
> rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> writes:
>> compile, but I can't seem to figure out how to run it.  I type
>> lm4flash at the command line, but it says "command not found".  The
>> file has no visible extension.  Is that expected?  What am I missing?
>
> Try ./lm4flash

Yes, I figured that out.  It seems the current working directory is not 
considered under Linux for finding executables... really!?

I got things working to the point that I could run the program with the 
binary file and used the -v and -E options.  I get an error message 
saying "Unable to find any ICDI devices".

I am having to share the USB port between the launchpad and the mouse. 
I can't think that is the problem though.  I set up the command, unplug 
the mouse, plug in the launchpad, give it a few seconds and hit return 
to run the programmer.  I'm using the debug port on the launchpad, the 
switch is set to debug (otherwise it wouldn't have power).  The RGB LED 
will cycle the colors, but as soon as I hit any key on the keyboard it 
turns Green and after a pause resumes the color cycle.  I find that odd 
since the keyboard is on the rPi on the other port.  I can't imagine the 
power on the USB port is not sufficient to power this dongle.

I have a powered hub on order, but it won't be here for a week or two. 
I'm hoping this is not the problem.

-- 

Rick

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#38253

FromPaul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid>
Date2015-04-16 20:59 -0700
Message-ID<87lhhrwgkf.fsf@jester.gateway.pace.com>
In reply to#38251
rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> writes:
> Yes, I figured that out.  It seems the current working directory is
> not considered under Linux for finding executables... really!?

Yes, it's so that if you type something like "ls" in a directory, you
get the normal system ls instead of a possibly malicious one that was
sitting in the directory.  I guess this was more of an issue in the
timesharing era.

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#38272

FromMel Wilson <mwilson@the-wire.com>
Date2015-04-17 13:16 +0000
Message-ID<mgr12k$gue$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#38253
On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 20:59:28 -0700, Paul Rubin wrote:

> rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> writes:
>> Yes, I figured that out.  It seems the current working directory is not
>> considered under Linux for finding executables... really!?
> 
> Yes, it's so that if you type something like "ls" in a directory, you
> get the normal system ls instead of a possibly malicious one that was
> sitting in the directory.  I guess this was more of an issue in the
> timesharing era.

If you must have this, you can get it with a command like (the bash 
version here)

PATH+=:.

which makes the current directory, whatever it is or will be, the last 
directory searched for commands.  I never do this.  I like the 
predictability.  "./" is always available.

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#38255

Fromrickman <gnuarm@gmail.com>
Date2015-04-17 00:19 -0400
Message-ID<mgq1j5$b0a$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#38251
On 4/16/2015 11:37 PM, rickman wrote:
> On 4/16/2015 6:11 PM, Paul Rubin wrote:
>> rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> writes:
>>> compile, but I can't seem to figure out how to run it.  I type
>>> lm4flash at the command line, but it says "command not found".  The
>>> file has no visible extension.  Is that expected?  What am I missing?
>>
>> Try ./lm4flash
>
> Yes, I figured that out.  It seems the current working directory is not
> considered under Linux for finding executables... really!?
>
> I got things working to the point that I could run the program with the
> binary file and used the -v and -E options.  I get an error message
> saying "Unable to find any ICDI devices".
>
> I am having to share the USB port between the launchpad and the mouse. I
> can't think that is the problem though.  I set up the command, unplug
> the mouse, plug in the launchpad, give it a few seconds and hit return
> to run the programmer.  I'm using the debug port on the launchpad, the
> switch is set to debug (otherwise it wouldn't have power).  The RGB LED
> will cycle the colors, but as soon as I hit any key on the keyboard it
> turns Green and after a pause resumes the color cycle.  I find that odd
> since the keyboard is on the rPi on the other port.  I can't imagine the
> power on the USB port is not sufficient to power this dongle.
>
> I have a powered hub on order, but it won't be here for a week or two.
> I'm hoping this is not the problem.

I think that is the problem.  I found mention of a program, lsusb, which 
lists the USB devices.  1st time the launchpad didn't show up, 2nd time 
it did, 3rd time it didn't.

I was using a gadget to measure the voltage and current going into the 
rPi.  That side is at 5.25 volts give or take with around 400 mA of 
current.  I moved the meter to the launchpad and the output on the USB 
port is only 4.95 volts.  This time when I ran the lm4flash command it 
seemed to work.  Maybe on the higher current side the meter was dropping 
enough voltage that it was less than marginal.  Now at least it has a 
shot at working and clearly I need a powered hub for anything on the rPi 
USB ports.  Seems they did a poor job on power distribution on the 
original design.  The rPi 2 model B is supposed to be better.  It can 
also be used for real PC work... like web browsing.

Now I have to figure out how to get a terminal emulator working on the 
rPi.  Can't be too hard... I just have to research it on my laptop 
rather than on the rPi.

-- 

Rick

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#38256

FromPaul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid>
Date2015-04-16 21:56 -0700
Message-ID<87h9sfwdy1.fsf@jester.gateway.pace.com>
In reply to#38255
rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> writes:
> I was using a gadget to measure the voltage and current going into the
> rPi.  That side is at 5.25 volts give or take with around 400 mA of
> current.  I moved the meter to the launchpad and the output on the USB
> port is only 4.95 volts.

I remember reading somewhere (probably adafruit.com) that you should use
a pretty beefy 5V power supply with the rpi especially if it's under any
type of load.  They actually tweak their rpi power supplies to deliver
5.25 volts to compensate for some inevitable sag.

I don't remember hearing that the USB ports themselves are out of spec
but it's possible.  Despite popular misconception USB ports are only
supposed to be able to deliver 100 mA unless they grant the client
"permission" to draw more (up to 500ma), through a power negotiation
protocol that's part of USB.  Most x86 motherboards can deliver 500 mA
with no problem, so lots of badly designed client devices just assume
the power is available, and try to draw it without bothering with the
protocol.  Maybe something like that is going on here.

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#38289

Fromrickman <gnuarm@gmail.com>
Date2015-04-17 14:47 -0400
Message-ID<mgrket$1d0$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#38256
On 4/17/2015 12:56 AM, Paul Rubin wrote:
> rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> writes:
>> I was using a gadget to measure the voltage and current going into the
>> rPi.  That side is at 5.25 volts give or take with around 400 mA of
>> current.  I moved the meter to the launchpad and the output on the USB
>> port is only 4.95 volts.
>
> I remember reading somewhere (probably adafruit.com) that you should use
> a pretty beefy 5V power supply with the rpi especially if it's under any
> type of load.  They actually tweak their rpi power supplies to deliver
> 5.25 volts to compensate for some inevitable sag.
>
> I don't remember hearing that the USB ports themselves are out of spec
> but it's possible.  Despite popular misconception USB ports are only
> supposed to be able to deliver 100 mA unless they grant the client
> "permission" to draw more (up to 500ma), through a power negotiation
> protocol that's part of USB.  Most x86 motherboards can deliver 500 mA
> with no problem, so lots of badly designed client devices just assume
> the power is available, and try to draw it without bothering with the
> protocol.  Maybe something like that is going on here.

I'm not 100% certain of this, but I believe the rPi runs input power 
through a Polyfuse which does have some noticeable resistance and so 
voltage droop.  I've cross-posted this to the rPi group to see if anyone 
will confirm it.

-- 

Rick

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#38291 — WAS: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad IS: Thunderbird Line Breaking

Fromrickman <gnuarm@gmail.com>
Date2015-04-17 15:12 -0400
SubjectWAS: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad IS: Thunderbird Line Breaking
Message-ID<mgrlsi$6ss$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#38289
On 4/17/2015 2:47 PM, rickman wrote:
> On 4/17/2015 12:56 AM, Paul Rubin wrote:
>> rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> writes:
>>> I was using a gadget to measure the voltage and current going into the
>>> rPi.  That side is at 5.25 volts give or take with around 400 mA of
>>> current.  I moved the meter to the launchpad and the output on the USB
>>> port is only 4.95 volts.
>>
>> I remember reading somewhere (probably adafruit.com) that you should use
>> a pretty beefy 5V power supply with the rpi especially if it's under any
>> type of load.  They actually tweak their rpi power supplies to deliver
>> 5.25 volts to compensate for some inevitable sag.
>>
>> I don't remember hearing that the USB ports themselves are out of spec
>> but it's possible.  Despite popular misconception USB ports are only
>> supposed to be able to deliver 100 mA unless they grant the client
>> "permission" to draw more (up to 500ma), through a power negotiation
>> protocol that's part of USB.  Most x86 motherboards can deliver 500 mA
>> with no problem, so lots of badly designed client devices just assume
>> the power is available, and try to draw it without bothering with the
>> protocol.  Maybe something like that is going on here.
>
> I'm not 100% certain of this, but I believe the rPi runs input power
> through a Polyfuse which does have some noticeable resistance and so
> voltage droop.  I've cross-posted this to the rPi group to see if anyone
> will confirm it.

I'm appending this OT post because I don't often look at my own posts, 
but did this one.  I'm using Thunderbird and it seems to do odd things 
with line breaking.

It is common that I reply to ("Followup" in T-bird parlance) a post only 
to find quoted lines extending off the page.  Ok, so T-bird doesn't 
always figure out that it needs to wrap lines for display.

But looking at my own post, I see the lines wrapping, but at the edge of 
the screen, not at the 72 column point where line breaks should be 
inserted when sending a message.  Changing the size of the window 
confirms this.

Then to make it even more confusing, in this reply it would appear that 
line breaks are inserted in the quoted text!  WTF????!!!!  Anyone 
understand how T-bird handles the line breaks, word wrap features?  Do 
you see my posts with line breaks at 72 columns?  I have that turned 
on... at least I thought I did.  I can't find the setting now.

-- 

Rick

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#38294 — Re: WAS: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad IS: Thunderbird Line Breaking

FromMartin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid>
Date2015-04-17 20:14 +0000
SubjectRe: WAS: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad IS: Thunderbird Line Breaking
Message-ID<mgrpjr$ilp$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#38291
On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 15:12:13 -0400, rickman wrote:

> Then to make it even more confusing, in this reply it would appear that
> line breaks are inserted in the quoted text!  WTF????!!!!  Anyone
> understand how T-bird handles the line breaks, word wrap features?  Do
> you see my posts with line breaks at 72 columns?  I have that turned
> on... at least I thought I did.  I can't find the setting now.
>
This has been rewrapped by Pan because it needed to add "> " at the 
beginning of each line, but as received, your appended text was wrapped 
at between 71 and 74 characters. I think it wraps whenever the next word 
would make the line longer that 74 chars, which is a bit odd seeing that 
you set the limit at 72. The last word at the end of each line in the 
para were:

that
Anyone
you
at
now.


-- 
martin@   | Martin Gregorie
gregorie. | Essex, UK
org       |

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#38299 — Re: WAS: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad IS: Thunderbird Line Breaking

Fromrickman <gnuarm@gmail.com>
Date2015-04-17 16:59 -0400
SubjectRe: WAS: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad IS: Thunderbird Line Breaking
Message-ID<mgrs5s$um9$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#38294
On 4/17/2015 4:14 PM, Martin Gregorie wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 15:12:13 -0400, rickman wrote:
>
>> Then to make it even more confusing, in this reply it would appear that
>> line breaks are inserted in the quoted text!  WTF????!!!!  Anyone
>> understand how T-bird handles the line breaks, word wrap features?  Do
>> you see my posts with line breaks at 72 columns?  I have that turned
>> on... at least I thought I did.  I can't find the setting now.
>>
> This has been rewrapped by Pan because it needed to add "> " at the
> beginning of each line, but as received, your appended text was wrapped
> at between 71 and 74 characters. I think it wraps whenever the next word
> would make the line longer that 74 chars, which is a bit odd seeing that
> you set the limit at 72. The last word at the end of each line in the
> para were:
>
> that
> Anyone
> you
> at
> now.

Thanks.  The 72 columns was just my recollection.  I can't find the 
setting now.

-- 

Rick

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#38326 — Re: WAS: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad IS: Thunderbird Line Breaking

FromDavid Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>
Date2015-04-18 10:00 +0200
SubjectRe: WAS: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad IS: Thunderbird Line Breaking
Message-ID<mgt2sp$6s0$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#38291
On 17/04/15 21:12, rickman wrote:
> On 4/17/2015 2:47 PM, rickman wrote:
>> On 4/17/2015 12:56 AM, Paul Rubin wrote:
>>> rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> writes:
>>>> I was using a gadget to measure the voltage and current going into the
>>>> rPi.  That side is at 5.25 volts give or take with around 400 mA of
>>>> current.  I moved the meter to the launchpad and the output on the USB
>>>> port is only 4.95 volts.
>>>
>>> I remember reading somewhere (probably adafruit.com) that you should use
>>> a pretty beefy 5V power supply with the rpi especially if it's under any
>>> type of load.  They actually tweak their rpi power supplies to deliver
>>> 5.25 volts to compensate for some inevitable sag.
>>>
>>> I don't remember hearing that the USB ports themselves are out of spec
>>> but it's possible.  Despite popular misconception USB ports are only
>>> supposed to be able to deliver 100 mA unless they grant the client
>>> "permission" to draw more (up to 500ma), through a power negotiation
>>> protocol that's part of USB.  Most x86 motherboards can deliver 500 mA
>>> with no problem, so lots of badly designed client devices just assume
>>> the power is available, and try to draw it without bothering with the
>>> protocol.  Maybe something like that is going on here.
>>
>> I'm not 100% certain of this, but I believe the rPi runs input power
>> through a Polyfuse which does have some noticeable resistance and so
>> voltage droop.  I've cross-posted this to the rPi group to see if anyone
>> will confirm it.
>
> I'm appending this OT post because I don't often look at my own posts,
> but did this one.  I'm using Thunderbird and it seems to do odd things
> with line breaking.
>
> It is common that I reply to ("Followup" in T-bird parlance) a post only
> to find quoted lines extending off the page.  Ok, so T-bird doesn't
> always figure out that it needs to wrap lines for display.
>
> But looking at my own post, I see the lines wrapping, but at the edge of
> the screen, not at the 72 column point where line breaks should be
> inserted when sending a message.  Changing the size of the window
> confirms this.
>
> Then to make it even more confusing, in this reply it would appear that
> line breaks are inserted in the quoted text!  WTF????!!!!  Anyone
> understand how T-bird handles the line breaks, word wrap features?  Do
> you see my posts with line breaks at 72 columns?  I have that turned
> on... at least I thought I did.  I can't find the setting now.
>

Thunderbird is wrapping your lines perfectly well - you can see this by 
using ctrl-U to see the "source" of the posts.

But Thunderbird re-wraps for display - if the lines in a post are not 
quoted, and appear to be a line-wrapped paragraph, it re-wraps then to 
the width of the window.  I am somewhat in two minds as to whether this 
is a good thing or a bad thing, but I haven't tried to turn it off.

So your posts from Thunderbird are absolutely fine.

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#38338 — Re: WAS: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad IS: Thunderbird Line Breaking

Fromrickman <gnuarm@gmail.com>
Date2015-04-18 09:32 -0400
SubjectRe: WAS: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad IS: Thunderbird Line Breaking
Message-ID<mgtmbd$582$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#38326
On 4/18/2015 4:00 AM, David Brown wrote:
> On 17/04/15 21:12, rickman wrote:
>> On 4/17/2015 2:47 PM, rickman wrote:
>>> On 4/17/2015 12:56 AM, Paul Rubin wrote:
>>>> rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>> I was using a gadget to measure the voltage and current going into the
>>>>> rPi.  That side is at 5.25 volts give or take with around 400 mA of
>>>>> current.  I moved the meter to the launchpad and the output on the USB
>>>>> port is only 4.95 volts.
>>>>
>>>> I remember reading somewhere (probably adafruit.com) that you should
>>>> use
>>>> a pretty beefy 5V power supply with the rpi especially if it's under
>>>> any
>>>> type of load.  They actually tweak their rpi power supplies to deliver
>>>> 5.25 volts to compensate for some inevitable sag.
>>>>
>>>> I don't remember hearing that the USB ports themselves are out of spec
>>>> but it's possible.  Despite popular misconception USB ports are only
>>>> supposed to be able to deliver 100 mA unless they grant the client
>>>> "permission" to draw more (up to 500ma), through a power negotiation
>>>> protocol that's part of USB.  Most x86 motherboards can deliver 500 mA
>>>> with no problem, so lots of badly designed client devices just assume
>>>> the power is available, and try to draw it without bothering with the
>>>> protocol.  Maybe something like that is going on here.
>>>
>>> I'm not 100% certain of this, but I believe the rPi runs input power
>>> through a Polyfuse which does have some noticeable resistance and so
>>> voltage droop.  I've cross-posted this to the rPi group to see if anyone
>>> will confirm it.
>>
>> I'm appending this OT post because I don't often look at my own posts,
>> but did this one.  I'm using Thunderbird and it seems to do odd things
>> with line breaking.
>>
>> It is common that I reply to ("Followup" in T-bird parlance) a post only
>> to find quoted lines extending off the page.  Ok, so T-bird doesn't
>> always figure out that it needs to wrap lines for display.
>>
>> But looking at my own post, I see the lines wrapping, but at the edge of
>> the screen, not at the 72 column point where line breaks should be
>> inserted when sending a message.  Changing the size of the window
>> confirms this.
>>
>> Then to make it even more confusing, in this reply it would appear that
>> line breaks are inserted in the quoted text!  WTF????!!!!  Anyone
>> understand how T-bird handles the line breaks, word wrap features?  Do
>> you see my posts with line breaks at 72 columns?  I have that turned
>> on... at least I thought I did.  I can't find the setting now.
>>
>
> Thunderbird is wrapping your lines perfectly well - you can see this by
> using ctrl-U to see the "source" of the posts.
>
> But Thunderbird re-wraps for display - if the lines in a post are not
> quoted, and appear to be a line-wrapped paragraph, it re-wraps then to
> the width of the window.  I am somewhat in two minds as to whether this
> is a good thing or a bad thing, but I haven't tried to turn it off.
>
> So your posts from Thunderbird are absolutely fine.

Thanks for the info.  It's good to know this is correct.  There is one 
nut case in the Forth group who replies to my posts with a bit of boiler 
plate added saying my lines were not wrapped correctly and he rewrapped 
them for me, lol.

But that doesn't explain the issue I have where quoted text in the 
window for composing messages often is not wrapped and runs off the edge 
of the window.  Any idea what causes that?  It makes it very hard to see 
what I am replying to.  This message seems to be just fine, I suppose 
because the lines *are* wrapped.  Looking at my post from April 16 at 
5:24 PM I see my lines are *not* wrapped.  I see in the source the = 
char at the end of each line which I assume means a continuation. 
Strange...  This seems to not be wrapped in the composition window when 
replying.

-- 

Rick

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#38345 — Re: WAS: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad IS: Thunderbird Line Breaking

FromMartin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid>
Date2015-04-18 15:15 +0000
SubjectRe: WAS: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad IS: Thunderbird Line Breaking
Message-ID<mgtsep$ri3$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#38338
On Sat, 18 Apr 2015 09:32:24 -0400, rickman wrote:

> But that doesn't explain the issue I have where quoted text in the
> window for composing messages often is not wrapped and runs off the edge
> of the window.  Any idea what causes that?
>
I some NNTP clients don't seem wrap outgoing lines, But I don't know 
which ones they are.

Pan has the ability to display incoming messages as they were received or 
after wrapping them, which is quite useful. 

Wrapping is useful if long lines are received, but it can mess up lines 
which start with hyphens or asterisks because it thinks that means 'join 
to preceding line' rather than 'another item in the list'. Hitting 'w' 
toggles between wrap and no-wrap so either way the fix is instant.
 

-- 
martin@   | Martin Gregorie
gregorie. | Essex, UK
org       |

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#38348 — Re: WAS: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad IS: Thunderbird Line Breaking

Fromrickman <gnuarm@gmail.com>
Date2015-04-18 11:31 -0400
SubjectRe: WAS: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad IS: Thunderbird Line Breaking
Message-ID<mgttb9$23f$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#38345
On 4/18/2015 11:15 AM, Martin Gregorie wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Apr 2015 09:32:24 -0400, rickman wrote:
>
>> But that doesn't explain the issue I have where quoted text in the
>> window for composing messages often is not wrapped and runs off the edge
>> of the window.  Any idea what causes that?
>>
> I some NNTP clients don't seem wrap outgoing lines, But I don't know
> which ones they are.
>
> Pan has the ability to display incoming messages as they were received or
> after wrapping them, which is quite useful.
>
> Wrapping is useful if long lines are received, but it can mess up lines
> which start with hyphens or asterisks because it thinks that means 'join
> to preceding line' rather than 'another item in the list'. Hitting 'w'
> toggles between wrap and no-wrap so either way the fix is instant.

I don't wish to belabor this too much.  It is off topic and I just 
thought someone with Thunderbird experience might have a quick answer. 
This issue is not on reading messages, that always wraps lines so they 
are viewable.  It is the quoted text in the reply that will not be 
wrapped if it is not broken in the received message.  Very odd....

-- 

Rick

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#38353 — Re: WAS: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad IS: Thunderbird Line Breaking

FromNiklas Holsti <niklas.holsti@tidorum.invalid>
Date2015-04-18 19:21 +0300
SubjectRe: WAS: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad IS: Thunderbird Line Breaking
Message-ID<cpfekcF7nfaU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#38338
On 15-04-18 16:32 , rickman wrote:

> But that doesn't explain the issue I have where quoted text in the
> window for composing messages often is not wrapped and runs off the edge
> of the window.

That occasionally happens with Thunderbird for me, too.

> Any idea what causes that?

No, I don't.

> It makes it very hard to see what I am replying to.

Yes. But there is a useful menu command Edit->Rewrap which wraps the 
quoted text.

-- 
Niklas Holsti
Tidorum Ltd
niklas holsti tidorum fi
       .      @       .

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#38388 — Re: WAS: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad IS: Thunderbird Line Breaking

Fromrickman <gnuarm@gmail.com>
Date2015-04-19 16:39 -0400
SubjectRe: WAS: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad IS: Thunderbird Line Breaking
Message-ID<mh13p1$qgf$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#38353
On 4/18/2015 12:21 PM, Niklas Holsti wrote:
> On 15-04-18 16:32 , rickman wrote:
>
>> But that doesn't explain the issue I have where quoted text in the
>> window for composing messages often is not wrapped and runs off the edge
>> of the window.
>
> That occasionally happens with Thunderbird for me, too.
>
>> Any idea what causes that?
>
> No, I don't.
>
>> It makes it very hard to see what I am replying to.
>
> Yes. But there is a useful menu command Edit->Rewrap which wraps the
> quoted text.

Thanks, that will make me happier.

-- 

Rick

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#38355 — Re: WAS: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad IS: Thunderbird Line Breaking

FromAlan Adams <alan@adamshome.org.uk>
Date2015-04-18 18:52 +0100
SubjectRe: WAS: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad IS: Thunderbird Line Breaking
Message-ID<a4795db654.Alan.Adams@iyonix.adamshome.org.uk>
In reply to#38338
In message <mgtmbd$582$1@dont-email.me>
          rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 4/18/2015 4:00 AM, David Brown wrote:
>> On 17/04/15 21:12, rickman wrote:
>>> On 4/17/2015 2:47 PM, rickman wrote:
>>>> On 4/17/2015 12:56 AM, Paul Rubin wrote:
>>>>> rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> writes:
<snip>

>>
>> But Thunderbird re-wraps for display - if the lines in a post are not
>> quoted, and appear to be a line-wrapped paragraph, it re-wraps then to
>> the width of the window.  I am somewhat in two minds as to whether this
>> is a good thing or a bad thing, but I haven't tried to turn it off.
>>
>> So your posts from Thunderbird are absolutely fine.

> Thanks for the info.  It's good to know this is correct.  There is one
> nut case in the Forth group who replies to my posts with a bit of boiler
> plate added saying my lines were not wrapped correctly and he rewrapped
> them for me, lol.

> But that doesn't explain the issue I have where quoted text in the
> window for composing messages often is not wrapped and runs off the edge
> of the window.  Any idea what causes that?  It makes it very hard to see
> what I am replying to.  This message seems to be just fine, I suppose
> because the lines *are* wrapped.  Looking at my post from April 16 at
> 5:24 PM I see my lines are *not* wrapped.  I see in the source the =
> char at the end of each line which I assume means a continuation.
> Strange...  This seems to not be wrapped in the composition window when
> replying.

The = at the end of each line means that the message was sent using 
"quoted-printable" encoding, but has not been decoded correctly. This 
might be a problem at your end, but more likely means that along the 
line the descriptor which identified the encoding has been lost, 
replaced or mangled.

-- 
Alan Adams, from Northamptonshire
alan@adamshome.org.uk
http://www.nckc.org.uk/

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#38362 — Re: WAS: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad IS: Thunderbird Line Breaking

From"Rod Pemberton" <bork@lllljunkqwer.cpm>
Date2015-04-18 18:55 -0400
SubjectRe: WAS: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad IS: Thunderbird Line Breaking
Message-ID<op.xxa8mkiowa0t4m@localhost>
In reply to#38338
On Sat, 18 Apr 2015 09:32:24 -0400, rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 4/18/2015 4:00 AM, David Brown wrote:

>> So your posts from Thunderbird are absolutely fine.
>
> Thanks for the info.  It's good to know this is correct.  There is one
> nut case in the Forth group who replies to my posts with a bit of boiler
> plate added saying my lines were not wrapped correctly and he rewrapped
> them for me, lol.

That guy may be a nut, but he's *correct* about your lines.

Your lines aren't wrapped correctly for Usenet.  This is not a Google
Group.

Your lines should hard wrap with a newline, i.e., ASCII CR LF per spec.,
at 72 characters or so.  Either your Usenet reader has a setting to do
this, or you must manually hit return before 72 characters.  I.e., on
my browser, I had to enter newlines above or it would be one single line.

In this thread, Usenet text wrapping for posts by "rickman" and by
"David Brown" are incorrect.


Rod Pemberton

-- 
Cars kill more people than guns in the U.S.
Yet, no one is trying to take away your car.

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#38365 — Re: WAS: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad IS: Thunderbird Line Breaking

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2015-04-19 09:13 +0100
SubjectRe: WAS: Mecrisp on the TI Stellaris Launchpad IS: Thunderbird Line Breaking
Message-ID<mgvo3o$20k$2@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#38362
On 18/04/15 23:55, Rod Pemberton wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Apr 2015 09:32:24 -0400, rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 4/18/2015 4:00 AM, David Brown wrote:
>
>>> So your posts from Thunderbird are absolutely fine.
>>
>> Thanks for the info.  It's good to know this is correct.  There is one
>> nut case in the Forth group who replies to my posts with a bit of boiler
>> plate added saying my lines were not wrapped correctly and he rewrapped
>> them for me, lol.
>
> That guy may be a nut, but he's *correct* about your lines.
>
> Your lines aren't wrapped correctly for Usenet.  This is not a Google
> Group.
>
> Your lines should hard wrap with a newline, i.e., ASCII CR LF per spec.,
> at 72 characters or so.  Either your Usenet reader has a setting to do
> this, or you must manually hit return before 72 characters.  I.e., on
> my browser, I had to enter newlines above or it would be one single line.
>
> In this thread, Usenet text wrapping for posts by "rickman" and by
> "David Brown" are incorrect.
>
Thunderbird has a 'rewrap text' option that does this.


>
> Rod Pemberton
>


-- 
Everything you read in newspapers is absolutely true, except for the 
rare story of which you happen to have first-hand knowledge. – Erwin Knoll

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