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| Started by | Jason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com> |
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| First post | 2014-05-20 09:23 -0700 |
| Last post | 2014-05-25 13:27 -0700 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 314 — 30 participants |
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Go Forth And Prosper Jason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-20 09:23 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-05-20 10:32 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Alexander Skobelev <al.skobelev@gmail.com> - 2014-05-24 09:57 +0400
Re: Go Forth And Prosper rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-05-24 03:03 -0400
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Julian Fondren <ayrnieu@gmail.com> - 2014-05-24 00:40 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper "M. Simon" <msimon6808@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-24 01:01 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Alexander Skobelev <al.skobelev@gmail.com> - 2014-05-24 20:35 +0400
Re: Go Forth And Prosper albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-05-24 19:35 +0000
Re: Go Forth And Prosper "M. Simon" <msimon6808@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-24 19:17 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-05-24 16:57 -1000
Re: Go Forth And Prosper mhx@iae.nl - 2014-05-25 00:39 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-05-25 05:00 -0400
Re: Go Forth And Prosper mhx@iae.nl - 2014-05-25 09:02 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper "VisualForth.com" <babruehl@gmail.com> - 2014-05-25 12:32 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper babruehl@gmail.com - 2014-05-25 12:36 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-05-25 15:43 -0400
Re: Go Forth And Prosper mhx@iae.nl - 2014-05-25 13:02 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper "VisualForth.com" <babruehl@gmail.com> - 2014-05-25 13:14 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper "VisualForth.com" <babruehl@gmail.com> - 2014-05-25 13:05 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-05-25 17:04 -0400
Re: Go Forth And Prosper "VisualForth.com" <babruehl@gmail.com> - 2014-05-25 15:44 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper "VisualForth.com" <babruehl@gmail.com> - 2014-05-25 12:01 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper "M. Simon" <msimon6808@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-25 17:33 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper "M. Simon" <msimon6808@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-25 18:08 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-05-25 23:44 -0400
Re: Go Forth And Prosper "M. Simon" <msimon6808@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-26 23:29 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper David J <skamolex@gmail.com> - 2014-05-27 11:12 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper David J <skamolex@gmail.com> - 2014-05-27 11:18 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper mhx@iae.nl - 2014-05-27 15:50 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Assad Ebrahim <assad.ebrahim@alum.swarthmore.edu> - 2014-05-28 00:12 +0100
Re: Go Forth And Prosper David J <skamolex@gmail.com> - 2014-05-27 19:19 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Alexander Skobelev <al.skobelev@gmail.com> - 2014-05-25 11:41 +0400
Re: Go Forth And Prosper "M. Simon" <msimon6808@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-25 17:38 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Alexander Skobelev <al.skobelev@gmail.com> - 2014-05-26 08:13 +0400
Re: Go Forth And Prosper "M. Simon" <msimon6808@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-25 17:57 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Alexander Skobelev <al.skobelev@gmail.com> - 2014-05-26 08:30 +0400
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-25 21:44 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Alexander Skobelev <al.skobelev@gmail.com> - 2014-05-26 09:01 +0400
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-25 22:09 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Alexander Skobelev <al.skobelev@gmail.com> - 2014-05-26 10:26 +0400
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-25 23:34 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Alexander Skobelev <al.skobelev@gmail.com> - 2014-05-26 12:32 +0400
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-26 09:37 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Alexander Skobelev <al.skobelev@gmail.com> - 2014-05-26 21:32 +0400
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-26 10:49 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper "Clyde W. Phillips Jr." <cwpjr02@gmail.com> - 2014-05-26 11:40 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-26 12:13 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper "M. Simon" <msimon6808@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-26 23:41 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper "VisualForth.com" <babruehl@gmail.com> - 2014-05-26 11:03 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Alexander Skobelev <al.skobelev@gmail.com> - 2014-05-27 11:24 +0400
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-27 00:35 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Alexander Skobelev <al.skobelev@gmail.com> - 2014-05-27 15:56 +0400
Re: Go Forth And Prosper visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-05-27 10:34 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-05-27 16:53 -0400
Re: Go Forth And Prosper visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-05-27 20:43 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-05-28 01:57 -0400
Re: Go Forth And Prosper visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-05-27 10:28 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper "M. Simon" <msimon6808@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-26 23:37 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Alexander Skobelev <al.skobelev@gmail.com> - 2014-05-27 17:29 +0400
Re: Go Forth And Prosper "VisualForth.com" <babruehl@gmail.com> - 2014-05-26 10:56 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-26 11:31 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper "VisualForth.com" <babruehl@gmail.com> - 2014-05-26 12:12 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-26 12:50 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-05-26 15:54 -0400
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-26 13:10 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper "Clyde W. Phillips Jr." <cwpjr02@gmail.com> - 2014-05-26 13:32 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-26 14:01 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-05-26 20:50 -0400
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-26 19:13 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-05-26 23:50 -0400
Re: Go Forth And Prosper "M. Simon" <msimon6808@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-26 23:51 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-27 00:03 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-05-27 03:19 -0400
Re: Go Forth And Prosper "M. Simon" <msimon6808@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-27 00:33 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-27 00:43 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper "M. Simon" <msimon6808@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-27 01:18 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Mikael Nordman <oh2aun@gmail.com> - 2014-05-27 05:18 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper "M. Simon" <msimon6808@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-27 00:42 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-05-26 13:53 -1000
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-26 20:13 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-05-26 17:34 -1000
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-26 21:49 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-05-26 20:33 -1000
Re: Go Forth And Prosper "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-05-26 13:48 -1000
Re: Go Forth And Prosper "VisualForth.com" <babruehl@gmail.com> - 2014-05-26 20:24 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-05-26 17:44 -1000
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-26 21:01 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper "M. Simon" <msimon6808@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-27 00:08 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper David J <skamolex@gmail.com> - 2014-05-27 12:39 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-05-27 13:36 -1000
Re: Go Forth And Prosper David J <skamolex@gmail.com> - 2014-05-27 19:53 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-05-27 18:11 -1000
Re: Go Forth And Prosper David J <skamolex@gmail.com> - 2014-05-28 08:57 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper stephenXXX@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2014-05-29 09:42 +0000
Re: Go Forth And Prosper David J <skamolex@gmail.com> - 2014-05-29 15:03 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper stephenXXX@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2014-05-30 00:23 +0000
Re: Go Forth And Prosper rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-05-28 02:04 -0400
Re: Go Forth And Prosper test <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2014-05-28 04:54 -0400
Re: Go Forth And Prosper albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-05-28 10:17 +0000
Re: Go Forth And Prosper "M. Simon" <msimon6808@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-28 06:51 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-05-28 13:35 -0400
Re: Go Forth And Prosper "M. Simon" <msimon6808@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-28 10:43 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper David J <skamolex@gmail.com> - 2014-05-28 09:19 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-05-28 13:41 -0400
Re: Go Forth And Prosper David J <skamolex@gmail.com> - 2014-05-28 12:20 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-05-28 13:28 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper David J <skamolex@gmail.com> - 2014-05-28 17:54 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-05-28 19:13 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-05-28 23:17 -0400
Re: Go Forth And Prosper visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-05-29 11:27 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-29 11:51 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-05-29 13:01 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-29 13:26 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-05-29 13:48 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-29 14:02 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-05-29 14:45 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-29 14:37 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-05-29 15:05 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-29 15:31 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-05-29 15:50 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-29 16:11 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-05-29 16:43 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-29 17:00 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-05-29 17:58 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Howerd <howerdo@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-05-30 01:31 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper "M. Simon" <msimon6808@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-31 14:15 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper HaveANiceDay <HaveANiceDay@NoSpam.invalid> - 2014-05-30 11:29 +0200
Re: Go Forth And Prosper rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-05-29 22:47 -0400
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-29 20:24 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-05-29 23:35 -0400
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-29 20:55 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-05-29 20:41 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-05-30 00:22 -0400
Re: Go Forth And Prosper visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-05-29 21:41 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-05-30 01:28 -0400
Re: Go Forth And Prosper visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-05-30 08:33 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper HaveANiceDay <HaveANiceDay@NoSpam.invalid> - 2014-05-30 13:05 +0200
Re: Go Forth And Prosper albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-05-30 11:47 +0000
Re: Go Forth And Prosper HaveANiceDay <HaveANiceDay@NoSpam.invalid> - 2014-05-30 13:07 +0200
Re: Go Forth And Prosper rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-05-30 14:14 -0400
Re: Go Forth And Prosper HaveANiceDay <HaveANiceDay@NoSpam.invalid> - 2014-05-30 21:04 +0200
Re: Go Forth And Prosper visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-05-30 12:34 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper HaveANiceDay <HaveANiceDay@NoSpam.invalid> - 2014-05-30 23:41 +0200
Re: Go Forth And Prosper visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-05-30 17:27 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-30 15:05 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-05-30 18:15 -0400
Re: Go Forth And Prosper visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-05-30 17:45 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-05-30 21:53 -0400
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-30 19:13 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-05-30 19:45 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-30 21:27 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-05-30 19:39 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-05-30 11:37 +0000
Re: Go Forth And Prosper HaveANiceDay <HaveANiceDay@NoSpam.invalid> - 2014-05-30 20:16 +0200
Re: Go Forth And Prosper HaveANiceDay <HaveANiceDay@NoSpam.invalid> - 2014-05-30 21:32 +0200
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Assad Ebrahim <assad.ebrahim@alum.swarthmore.edu> - 2014-05-31 02:49 +0100
Re: Go Forth And Prosper HaveANiceDay <HaveANiceDay@NoSpam.invalid> - 2014-05-31 19:15 +0200
Re: Go Forth And Prosper HaveANiceDay <HaveANiceDay@NoSpam.invalid> - 2014-05-30 11:23 +0200
Re: Go Forth And Prosper HaveANiceDay <HaveANiceDay@NoSpam.invalid> - 2014-05-30 11:18 +0200
Re: Go Forth And Prosper visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-05-30 08:41 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper HaveANiceDay <HaveANiceDay@NoSpam.invalid> - 2014-05-30 09:53 +0200
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Alexander Skobelev <al.skobelev@gmail.com> - 2014-05-29 09:50 +0400
Re: Go Forth And Prosper visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-05-29 11:17 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Alexander Skobelev <al.skobelev@gmail.com> - 2014-05-30 09:55 +0400
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-27 23:26 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-05-28 04:56 -0400
Re: Go Forth And Prosper David J <skamolex@gmail.com> - 2014-05-28 09:39 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-28 09:46 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper David J <skamolex@gmail.com> - 2014-05-28 10:18 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-28 10:28 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2014-05-28 12:57 -0500
Re: Go Forth And Prosper "M. Simon" <msimon6808@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-28 10:39 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper "M. Simon" <msimon6808@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-28 10:47 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper HaveANiceDay <HaveANiceDay@NoSpam.invalid> - 2014-05-28 20:45 +0200
Re: Go Forth And Prosper David J <skamolex@gmail.com> - 2014-05-28 11:49 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-05-28 22:08 -0400
Re: Go Forth And Prosper stephenXXX@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2014-05-29 09:46 +0000
Re: Go Forth And Prosper "M. Simon" <msimon6808@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-31 13:00 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper stephenXXX@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2014-05-31 23:07 +0000
Re: Go Forth And Prosper "M. Simon" <msimon6808@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-28 06:37 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-05-26 20:39 -0400
Re: Go Forth And Prosper "VisualForth.com" <babruehl@gmail.com> - 2014-05-26 16:03 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper HaveANiceDay <HaveANiceDay@NoSpam.invalid> - 2014-05-27 09:43 +0200
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-27 00:45 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper HaveANiceDay <HaveANiceDay@NoSpam.invalid> - 2014-05-27 12:40 +0200
Re: Go Forth And Prosper "VisualForth.com" <babruehl@gmail.com> - 2014-05-27 11:46 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper HaveANiceDay <HaveANiceDay@NoSpam.invalid> - 2014-05-28 12:47 +0200
Re: Go Forth And Prosper visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-05-27 10:54 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper HaveANiceDay <HaveANiceDay@NoSpam.invalid> - 2014-05-28 12:49 +0200
Re: Go Forth And Prosper visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-05-28 12:52 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper "VisualForth.com" <babruehl@gmail.com> - 2014-05-26 12:24 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-26 12:28 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2014-05-27 03:21 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper "M. Simon" <msimon6808@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-26 23:33 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Alexander Skobelev <al.skobelev@gmail.com> - 2014-05-27 19:08 +0400
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Alexander Skobelev <al.skobelev@gmail.com> - 2014-05-24 20:15 +0400
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-20 11:05 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-05-20 16:02 -0400
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-20 13:30 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-05-20 16:50 -0400
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-20 14:12 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-05-20 18:54 -0400
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-20 17:15 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-05-20 15:00 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-20 15:13 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-05-20 17:19 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-20 17:27 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-05-20 18:26 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-20 18:34 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-05-20 21:53 -0400
Re: Go Forth And Prosper visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-05-20 19:58 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-05-20 20:03 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-05-21 01:27 -0400
Re: Go Forth And Prosper visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-05-21 10:31 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Julian Fondren <ayrnieu@gmail.com> - 2014-05-21 09:07 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper mhx@iae.nl - 2014-05-21 11:46 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-05-21 15:34 -0400
Re: Go Forth And Prosper mhx@iae.nl - 2014-05-21 11:48 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-05-20 21:47 -0400
Re: Go Forth And Prosper rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-05-20 18:48 -0400
Re: Go Forth And Prosper "M. Simon" <msimon6808@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-22 13:00 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-05-22 16:47 -0400
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2014-05-21 00:18 +0200
Re: Go Forth And Prosper rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-05-20 18:55 -0400
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2014-05-21 02:22 +0200
Re: Go Forth And Prosper rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-05-20 22:06 -0400
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2014-05-21 14:26 +0200
Re: Go Forth And Prosper "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-05-21 17:17 -0400
Re: Go Forth And Prosper rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-05-21 17:48 -0400
Re: Go Forth And Prosper visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-05-20 14:41 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper "M. Simon" <msimon6808@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-22 12:23 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Mikael Nordman <oh2aun@gmail.com> - 2014-05-20 12:12 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper "M. Simon" <msimon6808@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-22 11:36 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-05-22 14:53 -0400
Re: Go Forth And Prosper "M. Simon" <msimon6808@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-22 12:12 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-05-22 15:23 -0400
Re: Go Forth And Prosper "M. Simon" <msimon6808@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-22 12:29 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-05-22 16:51 -0400
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-22 13:58 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper "M. Simon" <msimon6808@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-24 01:24 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper "M. Simon" <msimon6808@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-24 01:32 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper "M. Simon" <msimon6808@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-22 12:39 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Jason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-22 13:00 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-05-24 09:18 -1000
Re: Go Forth And Prosper rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-05-24 18:46 -0400
Re: Go Forth And Prosper "Clyde W. Phillips Jr." <cwpjr02@gmail.com> - 2014-05-24 19:12 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper "M. Simon" <msimon6808@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-24 19:36 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper "M. Simon" <msimon6808@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-24 19:42 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Assad Ebrahim <assad.ebrahim@alum.swarthmore.edu> - 2014-05-27 23:13 +0100
Re: Go Forth And Prosper rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-05-27 19:19 -0400
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Assad Ebrahim <assad.ebrahim@alum.swarthmore.edu> - 2014-05-28 20:52 +0100
Re: Go Forth And Prosper rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-05-28 22:12 -0400
Re: Go Forth And Prosper albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-05-29 12:41 +0000
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2014-05-28 01:47 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-05-28 05:20 -0400
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Assad Ebrahim <assad.ebrahim@alum.swarthmore.edu> - 2014-05-28 21:03 +0100
Re: Go Forth And Prosper rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-05-28 22:13 -0400
Re: Go Forth And Prosper "M. Simon" <msimon6808@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-28 06:41 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper HaveANiceDay <HaveANiceDay@NoSpam.invalid> - 2014-05-28 16:44 +0200
Re: Go Forth And Prosper "M. Simon" <msimon6808@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-28 07:49 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper HaveANiceDay <HaveANiceDay@NoSpam.invalid> - 2014-05-28 17:01 +0200
Re: Go Forth And Prosper anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-05-28 15:01 +0000
Re: Go Forth And Prosper "M. Simon" <msimon6808@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-28 08:40 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper HaveANiceDay <HaveANiceDay@NoSpam.invalid> - 2014-05-28 20:45 +0200
Re: Go Forth And Prosper rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-05-28 14:53 -0400
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Assad Ebrahim <assad.ebrahim@alum.swarthmore.edu> - 2014-05-28 21:10 +0100
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Hannu Vuolasaho <vuokkosetae@gmail.com> - 2014-05-28 23:28 +0300
Re: Go Forth And Prosper "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-05-28 17:54 -0400
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Assad Ebrahim <assad.ebrahim@alum.swarthmore.edu> - 2014-05-28 21:01 +0100
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Andy Valencia <vandys@vsta.org> - 2014-05-28 08:00 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Howerd <howerdo@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-05-24 21:50 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Hannu Vuolasaho <vuokkosetae@gmail.com> - 2014-05-25 14:52 +0300
Re: Go Forth And Prosper "M. Simon" <msimon6808@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-25 17:45 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-05-25 23:47 -0400
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Hannu Vuolasaho <vuokkosetae@gmail.com> - 2014-05-26 19:41 +0300
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Mikael Nordman <oh2aun@gmail.com> - 2014-05-26 02:35 -0700
Ms Rather attacked, was [Re: Go Forth And Prosper] "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-05-24 21:24 -0400
Re: Ms Rather attacked, was [Re: Go Forth And Prosper] "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-05-24 17:02 -1000
Re: Ms Rather attacked, was [Re: Go Forth And Prosper] Howerd <howerdo@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-05-24 21:21 -0700
Re: Ms Rather attacked, was [Re: Go Forth And Prosper] Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-24 22:16 -0700
Re: Ms Rather attacked, was [Re: Go Forth And Prosper] "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-05-24 21:02 -1000
Re: Ms Rather attacked, was [Re: Go Forth And Prosper] "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2014-05-25 11:39 +0100
Re: Ms Rather attacked, was [Re: Go Forth And Prosper] Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2014-05-25 15:24 +0200
Re: Ms Rather attacked, was [Re: Go Forth And Prosper] mhx@iae.nl - 2014-05-25 09:07 -0700
Re: Ms Rather attacked, was [Re: Go Forth And Prosper] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-05-25 14:15 +0000
Re: Ms Rather attacked, was [Re: Go Forth And Prosper] all2001@spambog.com (Wolfgang Allinger) - 2014-05-25 12:48 -0400
Re: Ms Rather attacked, was [Re: Go Forth And Prosper] Assad Ebrahim <assad.ebrahim@alum.swarthmore.edu> - 2014-05-27 23:27 +0100
Re: Ms Rather attacked, was [Re: Go Forth And Prosper] Rob Sciuk <rob@controlq.com> - 2014-05-26 13:08 -0400
Re: Ms Rather attacked, was [Re: Go Forth And Prosper] "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-05-26 07:41 -1000
Re: Go Forth And Prosper "M. Simon" <msimon6808@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-24 19:31 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-05-25 04:05 -0400
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Alexander Skobelev <al.skobelev@gmail.com> - 2014-05-25 12:42 +0400
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2014-05-25 07:50 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Mikael Nordman <oh2aun@gmail.com> - 2014-05-22 22:09 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-05-23 05:08 -0400
Re: Go Forth And Prosper visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-05-23 09:46 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-05-23 13:32 -0400
Re: Go Forth And Prosper visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-05-23 14:26 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper "M. Simon" <msimon6808@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-24 01:20 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-24 08:31 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Howerd <howerdo@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-05-24 08:40 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-24 09:50 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Howerd <howerdo@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-05-24 21:35 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-05-25 11:25 +0000
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-26 16:20 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2014-05-27 06:04 -0500
Re: Go Forth And Prosper "M. Simon" <msimon6808@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-24 19:01 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper "Clyde W. Phillips Jr." <cwpjr02@gmail.com> - 2014-05-24 19:24 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-05-24 10:12 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper "M. Simon" <msimon6808@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-24 01:29 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper "M. Simon" <msimon6808@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-24 01:37 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-05-24 12:08 -0400
Re: Go Forth And Prosper "Clyde W. Phillips Jr." <cwpjr02@gmail.com> - 2014-05-25 13:21 -0700
Re: Go Forth And Prosper "Clyde W. Phillips Jr." <cwpjr02@gmail.com> - 2014-05-25 13:27 -0700
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| From | "M. Simon" <msimon6808@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-24 01:32 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <38ac4252-224b-49f5-8dbb-a75f9640e847@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #30593 |
On Thursday, May 22, 2014 8:58:17 PM UTC, Paul Rubin wrote: > No it's not a Google group--it's a Usenet group which some people access > > through a godawful Google web interface. The Google interface messes up > > the posts of people who use it, so they are messy and hard to read. You > > can get non-Google Usenet access for free at eternal-september.org . > > Others can probably give better suggestions than I can about what client > > software is best to use. The only thing I know is Google is the worst. I haven't been on USENET for 15 or 20 years. It is a trip to be back.
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| From | "M. Simon" <msimon6808@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-22 12:39 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <d9bcbc01-2f80-46d7-a163-dff99f319880@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #30581 |
On Thursday, May 22, 2014 7:23:00 PM UTC, rickman wrote: > On 5/22/2014 3:12 PM, M. Simon wrote: > > > On Thursday, May 22, 2014 6:53:50 PM UTC, rickman wrote: > > Ok, NONE of what you have posted here has shown up in your Indigogo > > page. Your Indigogo page says it is all about promoting Forth. > > According to what you have posted here, it is about providing reliable, > > commercial, embedded hardware. > > > > If you want to have a successful project you need to be a salesman and a > > marketeer as well as an engineer. You need to have well defined goals > > and be able to fully explain them to your potential customers. You > > might want to address the differences in what you have posted here and > > what you posted on Indigogo. > > > > I hope you get your funding. > > Rick Thanks! We are a very low cost operation. ( I AM retired ) So it doesn't take a lot of funding to keep us going. We ( I have some compatriots ) intend to keep building our Forths and peripheral and processor boards until we break through. This is not a one shot. It is a FIRST shot.
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| From | Jason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-22 13:00 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <7fd2cfab-4cce-4f27-8782-af3ca3f07ce0@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #30584 |
On Thursday, May 22, 2014 12:39:40 PM UTC-7, M. Simon wrote: > This is not a one shot. It is a FIRST shot. Thank you for your determination. Jason
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| From | "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-24 09:18 -1000 |
| Message-ID | <h7udnf6o3s0CbR3OnZ2dnUVZ_jidnZ2d@supernews.com> |
| In reply to | #30581 |
On 5/22/14 9:23 AM, rickman wrote: > On 5/22/2014 3:12 PM, M. Simon wrote: >> On Thursday, May 22, 2014 6:53:50 PM UTC, rickman wrote: >>> >>> The Mecrisp project is going for the existing hardware. Why not work to >>> support that? Riscy Pigness is another one that exists and can use more >>> support. >>> >>> Rick >> >> I'm not impressed with existing hardware. >> >> This is not another Forth. This is another SYSTEM. We are transaction >> based as opposed to processor based. >> >> A daunting task? To be sure. Difficult? Yes indeed. None the less we >> intend to succeed. >> >> This all started as a project and got out of hand. Heh. I couldn't >> find a board with the specs I needed. And I do software in Forth. >> >> BTW I'm retired aerospace - with some commercial and industrial thrown >> in. I'm not a marketing guy who decided he could do electronics design >> - Arduino. > > Ok, NONE of what you have posted here has shown up in your Indigogo > page. Your Indigogo page says it is all about promoting Forth. > According to what you have posted here, it is about providing reliable, > commercial, embedded hardware. > > If you want to have a successful project you need to be a salesman and a > marketeer as well as an engineer. You need to have well defined goals > and be able to fully explain them to your potential customers. You > might want to address the differences in what you have posted here and > what you posted on Indigogo. > > I hope you get your funding. > > btw, it would be really nice if you used something other than Google to > access newsgroups. Google is rather disruptive to posting here. Sorry to be coming late to this discussion. I have been out of action for the last 10 days (maybe you saw something in the news about the attack of the crazy surfer girl). I have a lot of problems with what I've seen of this project so far, and Rickman highlights several of them. To make any Indi-funded project work it is essential to have a sound marketing plan. That means you have: * Identified something that a lot of people need or want. * Designed your product to meet that need in ways that are demonstrable and obvious to your target customer. * Produced a written development plan that includes the hardware and software to meet those goals, and * Developed a plan to publicize your project in the publications (paper or electronic) that members of your target audience follow. As Rick points out, your Indi page is all about promoting Forth. Although Forth has a loyal core of users, the vast majority of engineers out there either never heard of Forth or associate it with amateurish hobbyists. If your board designs are really superior, your need to address your presentation to people who want boards that are superior in that particular way, and devote your page to explaining that superiority. Sell something people *outside* the Forth community want to buy. Also: don't forget that Arduino (for example) was supported by a substantial marketing budget. They have a nice, professional-looking web page that is focused directly on advantages their target audience understands. Finally, your product will have to have software of the highest quality (well-documented, easy-to-use for Forth newbies) and easy-to-use drivers for all the devices it supports. Once you have all that, you need to publicize it not just on Indi but in places that will send people to Indi to learn more! I wish you luck, but you do not have a winning project yet. Cheers, Elizabeth -- ================================================== Elizabeth D. Rather (US & Canada) 800-55-FORTH FORTH Inc. +1 310.999.6784 5959 West Century Blvd. Suite 700 Los Angeles, CA 90045 http://www.forth.com "Forth-based products and Services for real-time applications since 1973." ==================================================
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| From | rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-24 18:46 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <llr7fr$uap$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #30651 |
On 5/24/2014 3:18 PM, Elizabeth D. Rather wrote: > On 5/22/14 9:23 AM, rickman wrote: >> >> I hope you get your funding. > > I wish you luck, ... > > Cheers, > Elizabeth A lot has been said about this project, but pro and con. I hope Simon realizes we are just talking here. None of us want to see his project fail. We are engineers and on being handed a clock we want to open it up and see what makes it tick... then try to see if we can improve it. That's all we are doing, trying to be helpful in our awkward, engineer's way. Simon, please don't take any of this personally. -- Rick
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| From | "Clyde W. Phillips Jr." <cwpjr02@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-24 19:12 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <f8bec4de-8e0b-41bb-bb28-1c48837d2ab1@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #30656 |
On Saturday, May 24, 2014 5:46:18 PM UTC-5, rickman wrote: > On 5/24/2014 3:18 PM, Elizabeth D. Rather wrote: > > > On 5/22/14 9:23 AM, rickman wrote: > > >> > > >> I hope you get your funding. > > > > > > I wish you luck, ... > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Elizabeth > > > > A lot has been said about this project, but pro and con. I hope Simon > > realizes we are just talking here. None of us want to see his project > > fail. We are engineers and on being handed a clock we want to open it > > up and see what makes it tick... then try to see if we can improve it. > > That's all we are doing, trying to be helpful in our awkward, engineer's > > way. > > > > Simon, please don't take any of this personally. > > > > -- > > > > Rick Right on. Evil genius can easily exploit ignorance. In all things that matter don't be ignorant. AND: Regarding Artificial Intelligence: Computers that don't think have become far more dangerous. BIG meta data that can correlate to an individual and their group participation activity and habits can by real-time and parallel multivariate analysis be programmed to disrupt, control or defeat any individuals, social groups, business ventures, governmental and political activity. This is here and now. oops
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| From | "M. Simon" <msimon6808@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-24 19:36 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <7769c3a7-ec81-496e-9932-9864f49996a3@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #30656 |
On Saturday, May 24, 2014 10:46:18 PM UTC, rickman wrote: > We are engineers and on being handed a clock we want to open it > > up and see what makes it tick... then try to see if we can improve it. > > That's all we are doing, trying to be helpful in our awkward, engineer's > > way. > > Simon, please don't take any of this personally. > Rick Rick, I'm an old hand at design reviews. This is mild compared to what I have seen. Nothing that has been said daunts me. We don't have to be an overnight success. We just have to continue. We ARE continuing.
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| From | "M. Simon" <msimon6808@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-24 19:42 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <0e91d3ba-e48b-4321-a42c-c924b6b1f584@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #30668 |
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat." -- Theodore Roosevelt
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| From | Assad Ebrahim <assad.ebrahim@alum.swarthmore.edu> |
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| Date | 2014-05-27 23:13 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <0b3ao9993c3tjjntqgcuprbe5b7t1mrbac@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #30669 |
On Sat, 24 May 2014 19:42:01 -0700 (PDT), "M. Simon" <msimon6808@yahoo.com> wrote: > >"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat." > >-- Theodore Roosevelt Great quote. Suggestion on posting using Google: As long as you take care not to write lines that exceed 80 characters, then most people reading your posts will not find it too bothersome. If you don't do this, then your posts scroll off into the sunset... For example, your lovely quote above shows up as *one* loooong line. Hope that helps. Assad
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| From | rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-27 19:19 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <lm36i0$t5t$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #30852 |
On 5/27/2014 6:13 PM, Assad Ebrahim wrote: > On Sat, 24 May 2014 19:42:01 -0700 (PDT), "M. Simon" > <msimon6808@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> >> "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat." >> >> -- Theodore Roosevelt > > > Great quote. > > Suggestion on posting using Google: > As long as you take care not to write lines that exceed 80 characters, > then most people reading your posts will not find it too bothersome. > If you don't do this, then your posts scroll off into the sunset... > For example, your lovely quote above shows up as *one* loooong line. Isn't your newsreader capable of displaying that properly? Thunderbird wraps when for reading, but when typing a reply shows it as one long line. So I often have to refer back to the read pane to know what I am replying to, lol. -- Rick
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| From | Assad Ebrahim <assad.ebrahim@alum.swarthmore.edu> |
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| Date | 2014-05-28 20:52 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <ihfco9lkf04dstjgbv7f2ai9r1diopgugm@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #30856 |
On Tue, 27 May 2014 19:19:32 -0400, rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> wrote: >On 5/27/2014 6:13 PM, Assad Ebrahim wrote: >> On Sat, 24 May 2014 19:42:01 -0700 (PDT), "M. Simon" >> <msimon6808@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat." >>> >>> -- Theodore Roosevelt >> >> >> Great quote. >> >> Suggestion on posting using Google: >> As long as you take care not to write lines that exceed 80 characters, >> then most people reading your posts will not find it too bothersome. >> If you don't do this, then your posts scroll off into the sunset... >> For example, your lovely quote above shows up as *one* loooong line. > >Isn't your newsreader capable of displaying that properly? Thunderbird >wraps when for reading, but when typing a reply shows it as one long >line. So I often have to refer back to the read pane to know what I am >replying to, lol. I'm using Agent Forte as my newsreader and unfortunately no it doesn't wrap lines that were entered without line breaks. So if someone uses Google as an interface, I see a very long line.
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| From | rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-28 22:12 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <lm6534$eav$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #30921 |
On 5/28/2014 3:52 PM, Assad Ebrahim wrote: > On Tue, 27 May 2014 19:19:32 -0400, rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 5/27/2014 6:13 PM, Assad Ebrahim wrote: >>> >>> Suggestion on posting using Google: >>> As long as you take care not to write lines that exceed 80 characters, >>> then most people reading your posts will not find it too bothersome. >>> If you don't do this, then your posts scroll off into the sunset... >>> For example, your lovely quote above shows up as *one* loooong line. >> >> Isn't your newsreader capable of displaying that properly? Thunderbird >> wraps when for reading, but when typing a reply shows it as one long >> line. So I often have to refer back to the read pane to know what I am >> replying to, lol. > > I'm using Agent Forte as my newsreader and unfortunately no it doesn't > wrap lines that were entered without line breaks. > > So if someone uses Google as an interface, I see a very long line. I would look to see if there is a control for that. This seems a very basic function that should be provided. Or you could change newsreaders. We can ask people not to use google groups, but I think we are pretty much stuck with it. -- Rick
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| From | albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) |
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| Date | 2014-05-29 12:41 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <53872b13$0$4914$e4fe514c@dreader35.news.xs4all.nl> |
| In reply to | #30935 |
In article <lm6534$eav$2@dont-email.me>, rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> wrote: >On 5/28/2014 3:52 PM, Assad Ebrahim wrote: >> On Tue, 27 May 2014 19:19:32 -0400, rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> On 5/27/2014 6:13 PM, Assad Ebrahim wrote: >>>> >>>> Suggestion on posting using Google: >>>> As long as you take care not to write lines that exceed 80 characters, >>>> then most people reading your posts will not find it too bothersome. >>>> If you don't do this, then your posts scroll off into the sunset... >>>> For example, your lovely quote above shows up as *one* loooong line. >>> >>> Isn't your newsreader capable of displaying that properly? Thunderbird >>> wraps when for reading, but when typing a reply shows it as one long >>> line. So I often have to refer back to the read pane to know what I am >>> replying to, lol. >> >> I'm using Agent Forte as my newsreader and unfortunately no it doesn't >> wrap lines that were entered without line breaks. >> >> So if someone uses Google as an interface, I see a very long line. > >I would look to see if there is a control for that. This seems a very >basic function that should be provided. Or you could change >newsreaders. We can ask people not to use google groups, but I think we >are pretty much stuck with it. My newsreader is wrapping long lines. That doesn't make those posts readable and the availability of such newsreaders must not be a pretext to break RFC protocols. If you must post through google, format your posts by hand. > >-- > >Rick Groetjes Albert -- Albert van der Horst, UTRECHT,THE NETHERLANDS Economic growth -- being exponential -- ultimately falters. albert@spe&ar&c.xs4all.nl &=n http://home.hccnet.nl/a.w.m.van.der.horst
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| From | Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-28 01:47 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <f5b167b4-b35c-414a-a407-f6ea437a5c1c@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #30852 |
On Tuesday, 27 May 2014 23:13:03 UTC+1, Assad Ebrahim wrote: > For example, your lovely quote above shows up as *one* loooong line. Your reader can't wrap lines?
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| From | "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> |
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| Date | 2014-05-28 05:20 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <op.xgkb7zlq6zenlw@localhost> |
| In reply to | #30875 |
On Wed, 28 May 2014 04:47:18 -0400, Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> wrote: > On Tuesday, 27 May 2014 23:13:03 UTC+1, Assad Ebrahim wrote: >> For example, your lovely quote above shows up as *one* loooong line. > > Your reader can't wrap lines? It's not an issue on our side. It's an issue on your side and Rick's side, i.e., Google Groups. Posts from Google Groups are not Usenet compliant. "Limit line length to fewer than 65 characters and end a line with a carriage return." RFC 1855 RFC 1855 "Netiquette Guidelines" http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1855 Rod Pemberton
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| From | Assad Ebrahim <assad.ebrahim@alum.swarthmore.edu> |
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| Date | 2014-05-28 21:03 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <v5gco956eljmr59dtk4otk5qjlcgaee316@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #30875 |
On Wed, 28 May 2014 01:47:18 -0700 (PDT), Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> wrote: >On Tuesday, 27 May 2014 23:13:03 UTC+1, Assad Ebrahim wrote: >> For example, your lovely quote above shows up as *one* loooong line. > >Your reader can't wrap lines? Hm, now you've made we wonder whether I've not got a setting right... And yes! Default for Agent Forte apparently is NOT to wrap lines. Have changed that now. Cheers :) Assad
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| From | rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-28 22:13 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <lm6548$eav$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #30924 |
On 5/28/2014 4:03 PM, Assad Ebrahim wrote: > On Wed, 28 May 2014 01:47:18 -0700 (PDT), Mark Wills > <markwills1970@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Tuesday, 27 May 2014 23:13:03 UTC+1, Assad Ebrahim wrote: >>> For example, your lovely quote above shows up as *one* loooong line. >> >> Your reader can't wrap lines? > > Hm, now you've made we wonder whether I've not got a setting right... > > And yes! Default for Agent Forte apparently is NOT to wrap lines. > Have changed that now. > > Cheers :) Well, good. I guess you can ignore my other post. lol -- Rick
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| From | "M. Simon" <msimon6808@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-28 06:41 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <a0be8384-bf01-4a2a-a5de-126cb56f2b04@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #30852 |
On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 10:13:03 PM UTC, Assad Ebrahim wrote: > Suggestion on posting using Google: > > As long as you take care not to write lines that exceed 80 characters, > > then most people reading your posts will not find it too bothersome. > > If you don't do this, then your posts scroll off into the sunset... > > For example, your lovely quote above shows up as *one* loooong line. > > Hope that helps. > > Assad Thanks! I have Thunderbird loaded but can't figure out how to get this newsgroup. I'm using Eternal-September for the feed. When I look at the list of feeds Eternal-September provides none of Usenet shows up.
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| From | HaveANiceDay <HaveANiceDay@NoSpam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-05-28 16:44 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <lm4sok$8sr$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #30888 |
"M. Simon" <msimon6808@yahoo.com> wrote: > On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 10:13:03 PM UTC, Assad Ebrahim wrote: > > Suggestion on posting using Google: > > > > As long as you take care not to write lines that exceed 80 characters, > > > > then most people reading your posts will not find it too bothersome. > > > > If you don't do this, then your posts scroll off into the sunset... > > > > For example, your lovely quote above shows up as *one* loooong line. > > > > Hope that helps. > > > > Assad > > Thanks! > > I have Thunderbird loaded but can't figure out how to get this newsgroup. > I'm using Eternal-September for the feed. When I look at the list of feeds > Eternal-September provides none of Usenet shows up. Maybe because on eternal-september it's ALL usenet? Look for "comp.lang.forth" and you'll find it.
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| From | "M. Simon" <msimon6808@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-28 07:49 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <9f3d5533-938e-481e-8838-e14f489ec72b@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #30890 |
On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 2:44:36 PM UTC, HaveANiceDay wrote: > "M. Simon" <msimon6808@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 10:13:03 PM UTC, Assad Ebrahim wrote: > > > > Suggestion on posting using Google: > > > > > > > > As long as you take care not to write lines that exceed 80 characters, > > > > > > > > then most people reading your posts will not find it too bothersome. > > > > > > > > If you don't do this, then your posts scroll off into the sunset... > > > > > > > > For example, your lovely quote above shows up as *one* loooong line. > > > > > > > > Hope that helps. > > > > > > > > Assad > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > I have Thunderbird loaded but can't figure out how to get this newsgroup. > > > I'm using Eternal-September for the feed. When I look at the list of feeds > > > Eternal-September provides none of Usenet shows up. > > > > Maybe because on eternal-september it's ALL usenet? > > Look for "comp.lang.forth" and you'll find it. Well I looked. It didn't show up. All I got was the Eternal-September groups. But maybe I was looking in the wrong place. Any suggestions?
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