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  OT: Best wishes for Elizabeth Stefan Mauerhofer <smauerhofer@androsoft.ch> - 2014-05-26 11:44 -0700
    Re: OT: Best wishes for Elizabeth "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-05-26 09:30 -1000
      Re: OT: Best wishes for Elizabeth Jerry Petrey <gpetrey@earthlink.net> - 2014-06-07 10:59 -0700
        Re: OT: Best wishes for Elizabeth "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-06-07 09:01 -1000
    Re: OT: Best wishes for Elizabeth Roger Levy <roger.levy@gmail.com> - 2014-06-07 23:36 -0700
      Re: OT: Best wishes for Elizabeth "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-06-07 20:47 -1000
        Re: OT: Best wishes for Elizabeth krishna.myneni@ccreweb.org - 2014-06-10 20:20 -0700
          Re: OT: Best wishes for Elizabeth Elizabeth D Rather <erather@forth.com> - 2014-06-10 17:45 -1000
            Re: OT: Best wishes for Elizabeth Paul E Bennett <Paul_E.Bennett@topmail.co.uk> - 2014-06-11 09:50 +0100
            Re: OT: Best wishes for Elizabeth Leo Wong <Mary.Leo@gmail.com> - 2014-07-01 19:37 -0700
              Re: OT: Best wishes for Elizabeth "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-07-01 19:24 -1000
                Re: OT: Best wishes for Elizabeth Brad Eckert <hwfwguy@gmail.com> - 2014-07-07 06:08 -0700
                  Re: OT: Best wishes for Elizabeth "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-07-07 07:54 -1000
    Re: OT: Best wishes for Elizabeth mfanyikazi@gmail.com - 2014-07-08 02:10 -0700
      Re: OT: Best wishes for Elizabeth Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2014-07-09 01:48 -0700
        Re: OT: Best wishes for Elizabeth barrym95838@yahoo.com - 2014-07-09 08:07 -0700
        Re: OT: Best wishes for Elizabeth hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-07-09 23:05 -0700
          Re: Best wishes for Elizabeth "Greg Bailey" <greg@greenarraychips.com> - 2014-07-23 15:33 -0600
            Re: Best wishes for Elizabeth "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-07-23 13:08 -1000
              Re: Best wishes for Elizabeth Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2014-07-24 04:18 +0200
                Re: Best wishes for Elizabeth "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-07-23 17:32 -1000
              Re: Best wishes for Elizabeth rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-07-24 04:44 -0400
              Re: Best wishes for Elizabeth Paul E Bennett <Paul_E.Bennett@topmail.co.uk> - 2014-07-24 10:59 +0100
              Re: Best wishes for Elizabeth hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-07-24 17:30 -0700
              Re: Best wishes for Elizabeth hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-07-27 21:21 -0700
                Re: Best wishes for Elizabeth awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2014-07-28 14:15 +0200
                  Re: Best wishes for Elizabeth JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com> - 2014-07-28 05:54 -0700
                    Re: Best wishes for Elizabeth hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-07-28 15:25 -0700
                      Re: Best wishes for Elizabeth awegel@arcor.de (Alexander Wegel) - 2014-07-29 06:03 +0200
                  Re: Best wishes for Elizabeth albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-07-28 13:20 +0000
                  Re: Best wishes for Elizabeth "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2014-07-28 14:26 +0100
                    Re: Best wishes for Elizabeth rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-07-28 10:52 -0400
                    Re: Best wishes for Elizabeth JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com> - 2014-07-28 10:59 -0700
                      Re: Best wishes for Elizabeth rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-07-28 14:33 -0400
                        Re: Best wishes for Elizabeth JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com> - 2014-07-28 11:44 -0700
                          Re: Best wishes for Elizabeth rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-07-28 14:56 -0400
                            Re: Best wishes for Elizabeth JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com> - 2014-07-28 12:04 -0700
                              Re: Best wishes for Elizabeth rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-07-28 18:16 -0400
                                Re: Best wishes for Elizabeth "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-07-28 22:44 +0000
                                  Re: Best wishes for Elizabeth hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-07-28 17:06 -0700
                          Re: Best wishes for Elizabeth JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com> - 2014-07-28 12:00 -0700
                          Re: Best wishes for Elizabeth Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2014-07-29 07:08 +0300
                            Re: Best wishes for Elizabeth mfanyikazi@gmail.com - 2014-07-30 07:27 -0700
                              Re: Best wishes for Elizabeth rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-07-30 11:49 -0400
            Re: Best wishes for Elizabeth hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2014-07-23 16:52 -0700
              Re: Best wishes for Elizabeth rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-07-24 04:47 -0400
    Re: OT: Best wishes for Elizabeth gavino_himself <visploveslisp@gmail.com> - 2014-07-30 13:27 -0700
      Re: OT: Best wishes for Elizabeth Jason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com> - 2014-07-31 10:11 -0700
        Re: OT: Best wishes for Elizabeth Jason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com> - 2014-07-31 10:15 -0700

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#32598 — Re: Best wishes for Elizabeth

On 7/23/14 4:18 PM, Bernd Paysan wrote:
...
> Great to hear, have a nice trip!  And remember: Iceland and Greenland are
> called the way they are, because some idiot a long time ago swapped labels
> on a map ;-).

I always assumed it was an act of genius marketing on the part of Eric 
the Red.

Cheers,
Elizabeth

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#32608 — Re: Best wishes for Elizabeth

On 7/23/2014 7:08 PM, Elizabeth D. Rather wrote:
>
> I am about 90% recovered, and leaving tomorrow for Iceland, Greenland,
> and the Northwest Passage. I win.

I don't know much about Iceland, but Greenland is very big on kayaking 
in spite of the fact that it almost died out in the last century due to 
the use of power boats and rifles rather than kayaks and spears for 
sealing.  Thanks to the Danes it was reinvigorated not long before the 
last of the experts would have died off.

Kayaking is an amazing sport arising out of necessity for survival. 
They have a rolling competition with some 30 odd different rolls each 
named for the nature of the roll or the reason it was used.  They also 
compete in rope balancing competitions where two ropes are tied between 
two trees and the athlete performs the equivalent of rolling moves in 
different ways.  I once saw a local athlete attempt to perform all the 
moves in sequence without mistake, but he made an error at about move 
25.  :(

-- 

Rick

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#32612 — Re: Best wishes for Elizabeth

Elizabeth D. Rather wrote:

> FWIW, to no one's surprise Jill's atty has filed intent to pursue an
> insanity defense. So, there'll be at least 6 mos.' psychiatric exams,
> challenges, re-exams, etc. Meanwhile, she's in jail with no bail.
> 
> I am about 90% recovered, and leaving tomorrow for Iceland, Greenland,
> and the Northwest Passage. I win.
> 
> Aloha,
> Elizabeth


It is good to hear that you are nearly physically recovered. The emotional 
recovery will be a while yet I fear. May you find the calm resolve to allow 
that emotional recovery to continue.

Have a pleasant trip North. Having enjoyed being within the Arctic Circle on 
my trip to Norway three years ago, I know you will find it a magical time. 

Best wishes my friend.

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#32631 — Re: Best wishes for Elizabeth

On Wednesday, July 23, 2014 4:08:36 PM UTC-7, Elizabeth D. Rather wrote:
> FWIW, to no one's surprise Jill's atty has filed intent to pursue an 
> insanity defense. So, there'll be at least 6 mos.' psychiatric exams, 
> challenges, re-exams, etc. Meanwhile, she's in jail with no bail.

She is also still in the ASP (I checked, and they haven't kicked her out). Most likely, the deal that she made was that if she did the crime, she would get into the ASP, then her "high-powered attorney" father would see to it that she only gets a couple of years of R&R in a psychiatric facility, and that when she is released she would still be in the ASP. If so, that plan seems to be on track...

> I win.

So, how can you prevent her plan from coming to fruition, so that you do actually win?

Her insanity plea depends entirely upon the attack being without cause, and just a spur-of-the-moment psychotic episode. If it were shown that she had been paid to do the crime however, then her insanity plea would fail --- this would imply rational thinking in the sense of weighing what she was offered (getting accepted into the ASP) against what she had to do (vehicular assault) and deciding to accept the deal. So, if you want to win, show the jury that she was paid to do what she did. But, if you are willing to lose, continue describing the whole thing as being a psychotic episode unrelated to yourself --- don't tell the jury that you make money by selling your customers bug-ridden software and by hitting deep-pocket targets with unjustified lawsuits.

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#32724 — Re: Best wishes for Elizabeth

On Wednesday, July 23, 2014 4:08:36 PM UTC-7, Elizabeth D. Rather wrote:
> I am about 90% recovered, and leaving tomorrow for Iceland, Greenland, 
> and the Northwest Passage. I win.
> 
> Aloha,
> Elizabeth

You don't actually live in Hawaii, do you? I'm guessing that you have a time-share condo deal --- one of the plumbers that I work with has one, and was telling me about the point system that they use --- so you are going to finish off your year's points somewhere else.

Does the fact that you are getting out of Dodge imply that you think whoever tried to kill you is an Hawaiian resident? So far, I have been assuming that it was somebody that you hit with an unjustified lawsuit:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.lang.forth/0mEA2lSLiCE
Or that it was a Forth Inc. customer that you refused to give a refund to.

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#32730 — Re: Best wishes for Elizabeth

Could someone please kill Hugh?

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#32732 — Re: Best wishes for Elizabeth

On Monday, July 28, 2014 1:15:05 PM UTC+1, Alexander Wegel wrote:
> Could someone please kill Hugh?

does anybody know what his full name and address is?

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#32759 — Re: Best wishes for Elizabeth

On Monday, July 28, 2014 5:54:03 AM UTC-7, JUERGEN wrote:
> On Monday, July 28, 2014 1:15:05 PM UTC+1, Alexander Wegel wrote:
> > Could someone please kill Hugh?
> 
> does anybody know what his full name and address is?

I myself have never said that I wanted Elizabeth Rather killed. I am actually trying to save her life by encouraging her to drop her unjustified lawsuit(s). 

I seems obvious that when an attempt is made on one's life, that the person should back off on his or her adventures in cheating and stealing. Remarkably, most people in this situation don't do it. They are in denial about what happened. They refuse to come to grips with the fact that their own wickedness has brought trouble down upon them. They fabricate a story to the effect that it was a purely random attack that has nothing to do with them. Invariably, the person needs two messages before the message sinks in. If the attacks are against property, such as burning the person's car, then the person ends up losing two cars rather than just one, before he or she realizes that the situation is serious and that this is a message that can't be ignored. If the attack has already progressed to the level of putting the person in the hospital, then the second message is very likely going to be fatal --- it is not going to be a bimbo in a Toyota next time. I'm trying to save "Lizzie" from this.

Elizabeth Rather has said that she has left Hawaii. If the attack came from somebody outside of Hawaii however, then this is not going to be good enough! Most likely, the reason why she left Hawaii is because the police there strongly encouraged her to leave, because the whole thing is a huge embarrassment for the Hawaiian tourist industry (murders are not something that the Chamber of Commerce wants to discuss). Elizabeth is not taking the situation seriously though with her arrogant "I win" statement. Also, on the thread regarding Apple, she is continuing to solicit people who will claim that they were confused between Apple's Swift language and Forth Inc.'s SwiftForth language. She is in denial.

I think that Elizabeth Rather lives in a fantasy world; she has spent her whole life telling lies, and she no longer distinguishes between reality and fantasy at all. That whole story about working for NASA was just a big lie. So was the story about hob-nobbing with Barrack Obama. Also, consider this thread:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.lang.forth/1y4khh5VZBc%5B1-25-false%5D
On Monday, May 5, 2014 11:52:25 PM UTC-7, Elizabeth D. Rather wrote:
> [SwiftForth is] a tool for a "Marine Corps" (which, at least in the US, implies a 
> fairly elite, small team of very highly trained and motivated people, 
> who are expected to undertake difficult challenges over a short time 
> frame) as opposed to an Army (large mass of people of all skill levels, 
> many "average Joes" who can take and hold a position). Both kinds of 
> projects exist. Personally, I have always preferred the first kind.

This is extremely offensive to anybody who has served in the Marine Corp or the Army. This indicates delusions of grandeur on Elizabeth Rather's part --- this goes way beyond typical puffed-up salesperson trumpeting. Elizabeth Rather just doesn't understand that people take pride in their accomplishments --- this is why she casually compares herself to the Marine Corp, and why she casually tells lies about my MFX not working and me getting fired for it, and why she claims to be the "leading expert" on Forth without having ever written a Forth program --- she has really got to stop spouting lies on a daily basis, before she ends up getting killed.

Anyway, both of you are on my twit list forever. Making death threats on the internet is symptomatic of serious mental illness --- get help! Elizabeth Rather herself has never threatened my life. All that she wants from me is that I stop programming in Forth --- that is the whole point of saying that my novice package "sucks." In that thread that I mentioned earlier, I told Stephen Pelc that all he had to do was publicly agree with one of Elizabeth Rather's lies, and I would stop posting on comp.lang.forth forever --- but he refused to do it --- in like a lion, and out like a lamb.

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#32763 — Re: Best wishes for Elizabeth

<hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> wrote:

> second message is very likely going to be fatal --- it is not going
> to be a bimbo in a Toyota next time.

> I'm trying to save "Lizzie" from this.

Do you? The way you don't miss a chance to insert your usual insults,
lies and even subliminal threats in what you write looked more like you
just continue your (declared) vendetta.

I don't think you have any clue what happened, but -as usual- try to
bend the facts into your favorite theory. This won't help.

For a start: it seems that JH wouldn't have stopped from alone - bang,
there goes the "first message" theory.

I do apologize for my stupid "Kill.." post, though: I sure don't want
anyone killing someone.

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#32736 — Re: Best wishes for Elizabeth

In article <1lphtug.1h7ukpr5bfa70N%awegel@arcor.de>,
Alexander Wegel <awegel@arcor.de> wrote:
>Could someone please kill Hugh?

You can do that yourself by putting him in your kill file.

To stay on topic:
   as on of the last ones to comment on this topic,
   I wish Elizabeth Rather a complete and swift recovery.

Groetjes Albert
-- 
Albert van der Horst, UTRECHT,THE NETHERLANDS
Economic growth -- being exponential -- ultimately falters.
albert@spe&ar&c.xs4all.nl &=n http://home.hccnet.nl/a.w.m.van.der.horst

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#32737 — Re: Best wishes for Elizabeth

on 28/07/2014 13:15:01,  wrote:
> Could someone please kill Hugh?

Killing Hugh outside of your newsreader is probably illegal. The death
penalty is normally reserved to the state for crimes of a serious nature,
although legislatures vary as to what they consider a apital crime. In
the US I don't think Hugh could be found guilty of any more than
stupidity, rudeness and paranoia combined with unfettered access to the
internet. First amendment and all that.

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#32742 — Re: Best wishes for Elizabeth

On 7/28/2014 9:26 AM, Alex McDonald wrote:
> on 28/07/2014 13:15:01,  wrote:
>> Could someone please kill Hugh?
>
> Killing Hugh outside of your newsreader is probably illegal. The death
> penalty is normally reserved to the state for crimes of a serious nature,
> although legislatures vary as to what they consider a apital crime. In
> the US I don't think Hugh could be found guilty of any more than
> stupidity, rudeness and paranoia combined with unfettered access to the
> internet. First amendment and all that.

We have means of dealing with the criminally insane...

-- 

Rick

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#32747 — Re: Best wishes for Elizabeth

On Monday, July 28, 2014 2:26:09 PM UTC+1, Alex McDonald wrote:
> on 28/07/2014 13:15:01,  wrote:
> 
> > Could someone please kill Hugh?
> 
> 
> 
> Killing Hugh outside of your newsreader is probably illegal. The death
> 
> penalty is normally reserved to the state for crimes of a serious nature,
> 
> although legislatures vary as to what they consider a apital crime. In
> 
> the US I don't think Hugh could be found guilty of any more than
> 
> stupidity, rudeness and paranoia combined with unfettered access to the
> 
> internet. First amendment and all that.

I wonder if there are any lawyers present: how much to break his arms so we have at least a holiday of 4 to 6 weeks.

Or less agressive: send the collection of his shit to his wife, his children, his relatives and if he is not a pensioner - what the confused and agressive behaviour implies - inform his employer, this did shut down the last troll I had to deal with.

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#32751 — Re: Best wishes for Elizabeth

On 7/28/2014 1:59 PM, JUERGEN wrote:
> On Monday, July 28, 2014 2:26:09 PM UTC+1, Alex McDonald wrote:
>> on 28/07/2014 13:15:01,  wrote:
>>
>>> Could someone please kill Hugh?
>>
>>
>>
>> Killing Hugh outside of your newsreader is probably illegal. The death
>>
>> penalty is normally reserved to the state for crimes of a serious nature,
>>
>> although legislatures vary as to what they consider a apital crime. In
>>
>> the US I don't think Hugh could be found guilty of any more than
>>
>> stupidity, rudeness and paranoia combined with unfettered access to the
>>
>> internet. First amendment and all that.
>
> I wonder if there are any lawyers present: how much to break his arms so we have at least a holiday of 4 to 6 weeks.
>
> Or less agressive: send the collection of his shit to his wife, his children, his relatives and if he is not a pensioner - what the confused and agressive behaviour implies - inform his employer, this did shut down the last troll I had to deal with.

Uh, don't you guys think this has gone far enough?  We know we are 
kidding, but it can't be a very nice feeling having people talk about 
having you killed or injured.  Hugh may be a PITA, but that is only 
because we respond to him.  I'm very uncomfortable participating in a 
group that talks about killing or harming one of its members, even in jest.

-- 

Rick

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#32752 — Re: Best wishes for Elizabeth

On Monday, July 28, 2014 7:33:37 PM UTC+1, rickman wrote:
> On 7/28/2014 1:59 PM, JUERGEN wrote:
> 
> > On Monday, July 28, 2014 2:26:09 PM UTC+1, Alex McDonald wrote:
> 
> >> on 28/07/2014 13:15:01,  wrote:
> 
> >>
> 
> >>> Could someone please kill Hugh?
> 
> >>
> 
> >>
> 
> >>
> 
> >> Killing Hugh outside of your newsreader is probably illegal. The death
> 
> >>
> 
> >> penalty is normally reserved to the state for crimes of a serious nature,
> 
> >>
> 
> >> although legislatures vary as to what they consider a apital crime. In
> 
> >>
> 
> >> the US I don't think Hugh could be found guilty of any more than
> 
> >>
> 
> >> stupidity, rudeness and paranoia combined with unfettered access to the
> 
> >>
> 
> >> internet. First amendment and all that.
> 
> >
> 
> > I wonder if there are any lawyers present: how much to break his arms so we have at least a holiday of 4 to 6 weeks.
> 
> >
> 
> > Or less agressive: send the collection of his shit to his wife, his children, his relatives and if he is not a pensioner - what the confused and agressive behaviour implies - inform his employer, this did shut down the last troll I had to deal with.
> 
> 
> 
> Uh, don't you guys think this has gone far enough?  We know we are 
> 
> kidding, but it can't be a very nice feeling having people talk about 
> 
> having you killed or injured.  Hugh may be a PITA, but that is only 
> 
> because we respond to him.  I'm very uncomfortable participating in a 
> 
> group that talks about killing or harming one of its members, even in jest.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> 
> 
> Rick

For how many years does he p... all over you all, and you feel comfortable with it - sorry but it stinks - sorry for the pun.

There was a similar idiot on Forth-ev, his personality has been deleted. 
Where is the link on comp-lang-forth to achieve the same thing? I would not assume that google supports such a behaviour.

If nothing is done, I have to assume people like such a behaviour - accepted.
As said before: For how many years does he p... all over you all, and you feel comfortable with it - sorry but it stinks - sorry for the pun.


The internet allows them to hehave like this - ok. If you sit next to him in a Forth meeting in the real world with a beer in your hand - this might fly in his direction - a standard procedure at the Oktoberfest - except that the glasses migth do him harm - which I would regret as the glass mighr not be reused.

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#32753 — Re: Best wishes for Elizabeth

On 7/28/2014 2:44 PM, JUERGEN wrote:
> On Monday, July 28, 2014 7:33:37 PM UTC+1, rickman wrote:
>> On 7/28/2014 1:59 PM, JUERGEN wrote:
>>
>>> On Monday, July 28, 2014 2:26:09 PM UTC+1, Alex McDonald wrote:
>>
>>>> on 28/07/2014 13:15:01,  wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>> Could someone please kill Hugh?
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> Killing Hugh outside of your newsreader is probably illegal. The death
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> penalty is normally reserved to the state for crimes of a serious nature,
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> although legislatures vary as to what they consider a apital crime. In
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> the US I don't think Hugh could be found guilty of any more than
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> stupidity, rudeness and paranoia combined with unfettered access to the
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> internet. First amendment and all that.
>>
>>>
>>
>>> I wonder if there are any lawyers present: how much to break his arms so we have at least a holiday of 4 to 6 weeks.
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Or less agressive: send the collection of his shit to his wife, his children, his relatives and if he is not a pensioner - what the confused and agressive behaviour implies - inform his employer, this did shut down the last troll I had to deal with.
>>
>>
>>
>> Uh, don't you guys think this has gone far enough?  We know we are
>>
>> kidding, but it can't be a very nice feeling having people talk about
>>
>> having you killed or injured.  Hugh may be a PITA, but that is only
>>
>> because we respond to him.  I'm very uncomfortable participating in a
>>
>> group that talks about killing or harming one of its members, even in jest.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>> Rick
>
> For how many years does he p... all over you all, and you feel comfortable with it - sorry but it stinks - sorry for the pun.
>
> There was a similar idiot on Forth-ev, his personality has been deleted.
> Where is the link on comp-lang-forth to achieve the same thing? I would not assume that google supports such a behaviour.
>
> If nothing is done, I have to assume people like such a behaviour - accepted.
> As said before: For how many years does he p... all over you all, and you feel comfortable with it - sorry but it stinks - sorry for the pun.
>
>
> The internet allows them to hehave like this - ok. If you sit next to him in a Forth meeting in the real world with a beer in your hand - this might fly in his direction - a standard procedure at the Oktoberfest - except that the glasses migth do him harm - which I would regret as the glass mighr not be reused.

There is a saying, "Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words can 
never hurt me".  So nothing Hugh says rises to the level of 
contemplating killing him.  It is just very poor taste to discuss 
killing him or condoning it.

Let's just end this conversation, ok?

-- 

Rick

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#32755 — Re: Best wishes for Elizabeth

On Monday, July 28, 2014 7:56:33 PM UTC+1, rickman wrote:
> On 7/28/2014 2:44 PM, JUERGEN wrote:
> 
> > On Monday, July 28, 2014 7:33:37 PM UTC+1, rickman wrote:
> 
> >> On 7/28/2014 1:59 PM, JUERGEN wrote:
> 
> >>
> 
> >>> On Monday, July 28, 2014 2:26:09 PM UTC+1, Alex McDonald wrote:
> 
> >>
> 
> >>>> on 28/07/2014 13:15:01,  wrote:
> 
> >>
> 
> >>>>
> 
> >>
> 
> >>>>> Could someone please kill Hugh?
> 
> >>
> 
> >>>>
> 
> >>
> 
> >>>>
> 
> >>
> 
> >>>>
> 
> >>
> 
> >>>> Killing Hugh outside of your newsreader is probably illegal. The death
> 
> >>
> 
> >>>>
> 
> >>
> 
> >>>> penalty is normally reserved to the state for crimes of a serious nature,
> 
> >>
> 
> >>>>
> 
> >>
> 
> >>>> although legislatures vary as to what they consider a apital crime. In
> 
> >>
> 
> >>>>
> 
> >>
> 
> >>>> the US I don't think Hugh could be found guilty of any more than
> 
> >>
> 
> >>>>
> 
> >>
> 
> >>>> stupidity, rudeness and paranoia combined with unfettered access to the
> 
> >>
> 
> >>>>
> 
> >>
> 
> >>>> internet. First amendment and all that.
> 
> >>
> 
> >>>
> 
> >>
> 
> >>> I wonder if there are any lawyers present: how much to break his arms so we have at least a holiday of 4 to 6 weeks.
> 
> >>
> 
> >>>
> 
> >>
> 
> >>> Or less agressive: send the collection of his shit to his wife, his children, his relatives and if he is not a pensioner - what the confused and agressive behaviour implies - inform his employer, this did shut down the last troll I had to deal with.
> 
> >>
> 
> >>
> 
> >>
> 
> >> Uh, don't you guys think this has gone far enough?  We know we are
> 
> >>
> 
> >> kidding, but it can't be a very nice feeling having people talk about
> 
> >>
> 
> >> having you killed or injured.  Hugh may be a PITA, but that is only
> 
> >>
> 
> >> because we respond to him.  I'm very uncomfortable participating in a
> 
> >>
> 
> >> group that talks about killing or harming one of its members, even in jest.
> 
> >>
> 
> >>
> 
> >>
> 
> >> --
> 
> >>
> 
> >>
> 
> >>
> 
> >> Rick
> 
> >
> 
> > For how many years does he p... all over you all, and you feel comfortable with it - sorry but it stinks - sorry for the pun.
> 
> >
> 
> > There was a similar idiot on Forth-ev, his personality has been deleted.
> 
> > Where is the link on comp-lang-forth to achieve the same thing? I would not assume that google supports such a behaviour.
> 
> >
> 
> > If nothing is done, I have to assume people like such a behaviour - accepted.
> 
> > As said before: For how many years does he p... all over you all, and you feel comfortable with it - sorry but it stinks - sorry for the pun.
> 
> >
> 
> >
> 
> > The internet allows them to hehave like this - ok. If you sit next to him in a Forth meeting in the real world with a beer in your hand - this might fly in his direction - a standard procedure at the Oktoberfest - except that the glasses migth do him harm - which I would regret as the glass mighr not be reused.
> 
> 
> 
> There is a saying, "Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words can 
> 
> never hurt me".  So nothing Hugh says rises to the level of 
> 
> contemplating killing him.  It is just very poor taste to discuss 
> 
> killing him or condoning it.
> 
> 
> 
> Let's just end this conversation, ok?
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> 
> 
> Rick

Are you his supporter now? Ok if he stops I will, no problem. 
I do still have some pride.
It just wastes everybody's time anyway.

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#32757 — Re: Best wishes for Elizabeth

On 7/28/2014 3:04 PM, JUERGEN wrote:
> On Monday, July 28, 2014 7:56:33 PM UTC+1, rickman wrote:
>> On 7/28/2014 2:44 PM, JUERGEN wrote:
>>
>>> The internet allows them to hehave like this - ok. If you sit next to him in a Forth meeting in the real world with a beer in your hand - this might fly in his direction - a standard procedure at the Oktoberfest - except that the glasses migth do him harm - which I would regret as the glass mighr not be reused.
>>
>>
>>
>> There is a saying, "Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words can
>>
>> never hurt me".  So nothing Hugh says rises to the level of
>>
>> contemplating killing him.  It is just very poor taste to discuss
>>
>> killing him or condoning it.
>>
>>
>>
>> Let's just end this conversation, ok?
>>
>
> Are you his supporter now? Ok if he stops I will, no problem.

Because I don't want to discuss killing anyone I am a supporter???  I 
can tell you right now that nothing you say or do will stop anyone from 
posting here.  So don't expect anyone's behavior to change.  I guess I 
should take my own advice and stop bother the people who want to bother 
him...


> I do still have some pride.
> It just wastes everybody's time anyway.

EXACTLY!!!

-- 

Rick

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#32760 — Re: Best wishes for Elizabeth

On 7/28/14 10:16 PM, rickman wrote:
> On 7/28/2014 3:04 PM, JUERGEN wrote:
>> On Monday, July 28, 2014 7:56:33 PM UTC+1, rickman wrote:
>>> On 7/28/2014 2:44 PM, JUERGEN wrote:
>>>
>>>> The internet allows them to hehave like this - ok. If you sit next
>>>> to him in a Forth meeting in the real world with a beer in your hand
>>>> - this might fly in his direction - a standard procedure at the
>>>> Oktoberfest - except that the glasses migth do him harm - which I
>>>> would regret as the glass mighr not be reused.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> There is a saying, "Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words can
>>>
>>> never hurt me".  So nothing Hugh says rises to the level of
>>>
>>> contemplating killing him.  It is just very poor taste to discuss
>>>
>>> killing him or condoning it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Let's just end this conversation, ok?
>>>
>>
>> Are you his supporter now? Ok if he stops I will, no problem.
>
> Because I don't want to discuss killing anyone I am a supporter???  I
> can tell you right now that nothing you say or do will stop anyone from
> posting here.  So don't expect anyone's behavior to change.  I guess I
> should take my own advice and stop bother the people who want to bother
> him...
>
>
>> I do still have some pride.
>> It just wastes everybody's time anyway.
>
> EXACTLY!!!
>

You're all acting like small boys. Cut it out.


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#32761 — Re: Best wishes for Elizabeth

On Monday, July 28, 2014 3:44:44 PM UTC-7, Elizabeth D. Rather wrote:
> You're all acting like small boys. Cut it out.

My very first programming job was doing C/C++. I soon discovered that the company had some issues (which is likely why they hired me, with no education or experience). The owner of the company would sometimes visit my office and tell me weird stories, like how he had invented the micro-processor, and how he had been in the Special Forces in the Army, and how he had turned down a professional football career to focus on computers, etc. --- I would just grin and nod. There were also "funny" stories told in the break room by the employees. Like about how they had made a video demonstrating their industrial robot, but all of the programmers had stood around the machine outside of the camera's view operating it with fishing line. They sold another machine to several large chip manufacturers (I won't describe what the machine did, as that will give away who I'm describing). The machine (this was what I was brought in to work on) had a lot of bugs...

We were in a big "crunch," meaning that we were working a lot of hours trying to get the machine to work, with the bosses breathing down our necks. The customers were breathing down their necks, demanding a refund. The bosses were known among the employees for doing the "xxx Shuffle" (xxx being our company name). This was a reference to how Mohammed Ali would do the "Ali Shuffle" to dodge punches, but our bosses would dodge questions --- when they were asked a question they would say one thing, then say another, and go on like this for 10 minutes, and afterward it seemed like they had said a lot --- but the questioner would be left baffled as to what the answer was, although it had been a straight-forward question.

Then the owner of the company disappeared for two weeks. When he returned, he was in a wheelchair. His story was that he had gone on a skiing trip and had twisted his knee. His knee had, in fact, been turned around backwards so that his foot was oriented such that he could kick himself in the ass if he felt so inspired. Nobody actually believed that he would go on a skiing trip in the middle of a "crunch." And, the boss had a brand new plan! We weren't in a crunch anymore, as the project had been dropped. He was going to lay-off over half of his employees, and he was going to give the customers a refund. 

The boss did eventually recover well enough that he could walk with a cane. For him, only one message was adequate --- he didn't need a second message, which would have been fatal. This was my first programming job, so this is where I learned how the business works.

Anyway, my point is that not everybody in the world acts like little boys --- some people are serious --- and lying to them has consequences. Just a word to the wise!

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