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  Binaries for 64 bit gforth for Windows 8? Celeros <kerneels@gmail.com> - 2014-03-19 21:49 +0200
    Re: Binaries for 64 bit gforth for Windows 8? Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2014-03-19 21:45 +0100
      Re: Binaries for 64 bit gforth for Windows 8? Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2014-03-19 21:55 +0100
        Re: Binaries for 64 bit gforth for Windows 8? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2014-03-19 22:35 +0100
          Re: Binaries for 64 bit gforth for Windows 8? Celeros <kerneels@gmail.com> - 2014-03-20 15:01 +0200
            Re: Binaries for 64 bit gforth for Windows 8? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2014-03-20 22:25 +0100

#29082 — Binaries for 64 bit gforth for Windows 8?

Hi.

Where can I find this? I recall there was a MSI installer for a previous 
version of gforth, but it's not obvious where it's at now.

I've had a look on: http://www.gnu.org/software/gforth/

and on: http://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/forth/gforth/

Thanks in advance!

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#29083

Op Wed, 19 Mar 2014 21:49:57 +0200 schreef Celeros:

> Hi.
> 
> Where can I find this? I recall there was a MSI installer for a previous 
> version of gforth, but it's not obvious where it's at now.
> 
> I've had a look on: http://www.gnu.org/software/gforth/
> 
I used gforth-0.7.0.exe in this directory.
As far as I know there is no 'native windows' gforth 0.7.1 or 0.7.2

Cygwin accepts gforth-0.7.2.tar.gz

> and on: http://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/forth/gforth/
> 
> Thanks in advance!


-- 
Coos

CHForth, 16 bit DOS applications
http://home.hccnet.nl/j.j.haak/forth.html 

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#29084

Op Wed, 19 Mar 2014 21:45:41 +0100 schreef Coos Haak:

> Op Wed, 19 Mar 2014 21:49:57 +0200 schreef Celeros:
> 
>> Hi.
>> 
>> Where can I find this? I recall there was a MSI installer for a previous 
>> version of gforth, but it's not obvious where it's at now.
>> 
>> I've had a look on: http://www.gnu.org/software/gforth/
>> 
> I used gforth-0.7.0.exe in this directory.
> As far as I know there is no 'native windows' gforth 0.7.1 or 0.7.2
> 
> Cygwin accepts gforth-0.7.2.tar.gz
> 
>> and on: http://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/forth/gforth/
>> 
>> Thanks in advance!

Sorry, although 0.7.0.exe runs on both 32 and 64 bit windows, it's still 32
bit.
I had installed 2.tar.gz in cygwin under windows-64 but, alas cygwin is 32
bits, so gforth stays 32 bit.

No problem with linux

-- 
Coos

CHForth, 16 bit DOS applications
http://home.hccnet.nl/j.j.haak/forth.html 

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#29086

Coos Haak wrote:
> Sorry, although 0.7.0.exe runs on both 32 and 64 bit windows, it's still
> 32 bit.
> I had installed 2.tar.gz in cygwin under windows-64 but, alas cygwin is 32
> bits, so gforth stays 32 bit.

Recently, Cygwin went 64 bit.  Last time I tried it did compile and worked, 
but there were still some rough edges.

-- 
Bernd Paysan
"If you want it done right, you have to do it yourself"
http://bernd-paysan.de/

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#29098

On 2014-03-19 11:35 PM, Bernd Paysan wrote:
> Coos Haak wrote:
>> Sorry, although 0.7.0.exe runs on both 32 and 64 bit windows, it's still
>> 32 bit.
>> I had installed 2.tar.gz in cygwin under windows-64 but, alas cygwin is 32
>> bits, so gforth stays 32 bit.
>
> Recently, Cygwin went 64 bit.  Last time I tried it did compile and worked,
> but there were still some rough edges.
>

That is nice to know, but a stand alone build of gforth for 64 bit 
Windows 8.x would be very nice and lower the barrier to entry for 
curious folk.

Cygwin IMO is a heavy weight solution that most people on Windows won't 
put up with.  Personally I think it's great.

A nice MSI package that will install the latest gforth for Windows 
including documentation and a direct download link on the gforth home 
page would make it nice and easy for anyone to get started.

The build for Windows should also be recent, and not the 2008 / 2007 one 
of 0.7.0 - people will just think it's old, non maintained stuff.

My 2 cents anyways.

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#29101

Celeros wrote:
> That is nice to know, but a stand alone build of gforth for 64 bit
> Windows 8.x would be very nice and lower the barrier to entry for
> curious folk.

I distribute all the cygwin DLLs you need with the setup.exe.  Or let's say 
"most you need", because writing your own bindings with libcc.fs requires 
GCC.

> Cygwin IMO is a heavy weight solution that most people on Windows won't
> put up with.  Personally I think it's great.

Yes, that's why the setup.exe is self-containing, and you don't need to 
install Cygwin.  We use Cygwin to build it, and to get POSIX compatibility.

> A nice MSI package that will install the latest gforth for Windows
> including documentation and a direct download link on the gforth home
> page would make it nice and easy for anyone to get started.

We have a setup.exe.  I've not looked at MSI installer package generators.  
Any suggestions?  Best if it is free as in free software (the Inno Setup I 
use to generate setup.exe is).

> The build for Windows should also be recent, and not the 2008 / 2007 one
> of 0.7.0 - people will just think it's old, non maintained stuff.

To be honest, the Gforth team doesn't use Windows.  Once or twice in a 
decade we do a full release including the packaging on Windows.  If a 
volunteer steps up and builds snapshots releases, we will certainly publish 
them.  We won't release slightly buggy snapshots of the current development 
system once per week just to keep those happy who want "latest and greatest" 
stuff just for the sake of it.

-- 
Bernd Paysan
"If you want it done right, you have to do it yourself"
http://bernd-paysan.de/

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