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| Started by | anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) |
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| First post | 2015-09-20 08:45 +0000 |
| Last post | 2015-11-09 13:21 -0800 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 191 — 29 participants |
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EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-09-20 08:45 +0000
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Matthias Trute <matthias.trute@gmail.com> - 2015-09-20 06:34 -0700
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-09-21 20:11 +0200
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Matthias Trute <matthias.trute@gmail.com> - 2015-09-23 11:29 -0700
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-09-23 21:03 +0200
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Matthias Trute <matthias.trute@gmail.com> - 2015-09-27 03:02 -0700
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-09-21 01:13 -0700
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-09-21 09:26 +0000
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com> - 2015-10-03 03:46 -0700
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-10-03 22:56 -0700
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-10-04 02:44 -0400
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com> - 2015-10-04 01:14 -0700
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-10-04 05:08 -0400
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com> - 2015-10-04 04:06 -0700
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2015-10-04 07:25 -0500
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com> - 2015-10-04 06:49 -0700
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-10-04 09:21 -0700
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-10-09 13:24 -0700
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-08 22:18 +0000
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-10-08 06:59 +0000
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Mikael Nordman <oh2aun@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 04:24 -0700
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 05:08 -0700
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-10-08 13:57 +0000
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Mikael Nordman <oh2aun@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 13:36 -0700
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-10-08 13:50 -1000
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Jason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-10 12:10 -0700
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-08 18:10 -0700
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-10-10 14:10 +0000
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-10-10 23:12 -0700
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2015-10-12 10:18 -0700
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-10-12 14:02 -0400
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-10-12 08:03 -1000
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-10-12 14:58 -0700
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2015-10-13 01:25 +0200
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-10-12 17:38 -0700
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-10-12 16:39 -1000
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-10-10 19:12 -0400
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com> - 2015-10-08 07:31 -0700
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-10-17 22:44 +0200
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-10-17 21:47 -0700
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-10-18 01:51 -0400
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-10-17 20:26 -1000
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-10-18 21:34 +0200
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-10-19 17:00 +0000
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-10-20 01:51 +0200
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-10-19 16:24 -1000
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-10-20 02:44 -0700
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-10-20 13:01 +0000
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-10-20 22:59 -0700
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-10-20 23:57 -0700
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-10-21 10:58 -0700
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching krishna.myneni@ccreweb.org - 2015-11-11 14:06 -0800
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com> - 2015-11-11 14:48 -0800
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-11 14:59 -0800
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com> - 2015-11-12 05:28 -0800
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-12 18:18 -0800
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching krishna.myneni@ccreweb.org - 2015-11-11 15:12 -0800
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com> - 2015-11-12 05:35 -0800
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching krishna.myneni@ccreweb.org - 2015-11-12 06:24 -0800
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2015-11-12 14:44 +0000
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-11 15:18 -0800
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-10-20 12:36 +0000
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com> - 2015-10-18 12:54 -0700
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-10-19 02:47 +0200
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com> - 2015-10-08 07:24 -0700
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-10-08 15:10 +0000
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com> - 2015-10-08 09:15 -0700
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-02 20:35 +0000
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2015-10-13 17:30 -0700
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-10-13 19:36 -0700
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching lehs <skydda.barnen@gmail.com> - 2015-10-13 23:54 -0700
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching lehs <skydda.barnen@gmail.com> - 2015-10-14 00:04 -0700
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching lehs <skydda.barnen@gmail.com> - 2015-10-14 00:09 -0700
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-10-14 09:45 +0000
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Hannu Vuolasaho <vuokkosetae@gmail.com> - 2015-10-14 14:54 +0300
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Brad Eckert <hwfwguy@gmail.com> - 2015-10-28 10:13 -0700
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-10-28 11:38 -0700
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Brad Eckert <hwfwguy@gmail.com> - 2015-10-30 22:03 -0700
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com> - 2015-10-31 02:10 -0700
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-10-31 02:50 -0700
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-10-31 18:58 +0100
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com> - 2015-10-31 14:18 -0700
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-10-31 23:43 +0100
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com> - 2015-11-07 10:44 -0800
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-11-07 23:02 +0100
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-10-31 14:48 -0700
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 01:03 -0800
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-02 01:44 -0800
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 01:59 -0800
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 02:19 -0800
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-11-02 17:32 -0800
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 02:14 -0800
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-11-02 12:10 -1000
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-11-02 16:45 -0800
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-11-02 10:26 +0000
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-02 02:57 -0800
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-11-02 16:06 +0000
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-02 09:36 -0800
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> - 2015-11-02 21:18 +0100
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-11-03 11:56 +0000
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2015-11-03 18:16 +0000
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-11-04 10:53 +0000
16-bit Forth for Linux Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> - 2015-11-20 11:13 +0100
Re: 16-bit Forth for Linux Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2015-11-20 15:08 +0000
Re: 16-bit Forth for Linux Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> - 2015-11-20 20:11 +0100
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 11:10 -0800
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-02 12:43 -0800
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Howerd <howerdo@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-11-03 03:05 -0800
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-03 11:11 -0800
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Howerd <howerdo@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-11-03 03:07 -0800
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-03 11:15 -0800
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-11-02 12:18 -1000
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-11-02 12:07 -1000
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-02 15:41 -0800
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-11-02 20:27 -1000
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-11-03 11:00 +0000
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-11-03 11:28 +0000
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-11-03 12:18 +0000
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-11-03 17:03 +0000
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-11-03 19:29 +0000
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-11-04 14:47 +0000
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching "Rod Pemberton" <boo@fasdfrewar.cdm> - 2015-11-04 21:15 -0500
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2015-11-05 03:19 +0100
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-11-04 16:37 -1000
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-11-04 20:54 -0800
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-11-05 06:32 +0000
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching "Rod Pemberton" <boo@fasdfrewar.cdm> - 2015-11-04 21:17 -0500
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-11-04 16:44 -1000
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-11-05 01:24 -0800
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-11-05 14:50 +0000
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-11-05 12:49 -0800
CMFORTH Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> - 2015-11-06 08:43 +0100
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2015-11-02 10:46 +0000
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 05:52 -0800
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-11-02 14:52 +0000
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 08:06 -0800
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 08:32 -0800
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2015-11-02 20:04 +0000
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 22:31 -0800
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-11-03 18:49 -0800
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-11-03 12:24 +0000
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2015-11-03 19:45 +0000
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-11-03 22:30 +0100
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-11-04 10:42 +0000
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-11-04 14:08 +0100
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2015-11-04 14:07 +0000
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-11-04 14:34 +0000
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-11-04 17:32 +0000
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-11-05 23:00 +0100
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-11-06 07:27 +0000
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-11-06 22:04 +0100
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-11-07 16:07 +0000
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2015-11-04 13:58 +0000
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-11-04 15:04 +0100
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-11-04 14:30 +0000
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2015-11-04 11:57 -0800
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-11-04 12:06 -1000
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-11-04 14:53 -0800
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2015-11-07 14:44 -0800
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-11-08 00:02 +0100
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2015-11-08 15:22 -0800
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-11-09 01:15 +0100
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2015-11-08 17:06 -0800
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-11-08 22:12 -0800
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2015-11-10 16:17 -0800
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-11-11 02:57 +0100
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-11-10 19:56 -0800
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2015-11-11 10:13 -0800
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-11-12 01:53 +0100
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-11-12 09:19 -0800
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2015-11-13 17:30 -0800
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-11-14 20:31 -0800
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2015-11-15 14:50 -0800
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Alfred Singlestone <vitonis@gmail.com> - 2015-11-17 05:07 -0800
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2015-11-18 22:20 -0800
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-11-02 09:27 +0000
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-11-02 10:51 +0000
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-11-02 14:37 +0100
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching franck.bensusan@gmail.com - 2015-11-02 23:20 -0800
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2015-11-03 10:01 +0000
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-11-03 02:30 -0800
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2015-11-03 18:08 +0000
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching franck.bensusan@gmail.com - 2015-11-03 06:05 -0800
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-11-03 19:35 +0100
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching franck.bensusan@gmail.com - 2015-11-03 12:27 -0800
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-11-03 22:37 +0100
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching franck.bensusan@gmail.com - 2015-11-03 14:39 -0800
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-11-04 14:54 +0100
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-11-04 06:21 -0800
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-10-31 15:00 -0700
Re: EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching Brad Eckert <hwfwguy@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 13:21 -0800
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| From | anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) |
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| Date | 2015-09-20 08:45 +0000 |
| Subject | EuroForth 2015 paper deadline approaching |
| Message-ID | <2015Sep20.104537@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> |
The deadline for non-refereed papers for EuroForth 2015 is on Tuesday,
September 22nd, so it's time to start finishing your paper and get it
ready to submit. Call for papers and submission instructions:
<http://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/anton/euroforth/ef15/cfp.html>
- anton
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New standard: http://www.forth200x.org/forth200x.html
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| From | Matthias Trute <matthias.trute@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-20 06:34 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <d8bbf124-33dc-417f-8b25-5cb47c138513@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #42092 |
> The deadline for non-refereed papers for EuroForth 2015 is on Tuesday, > September 22nd, so it's time to start finishing your paper and get it > ready to submit. Its not a paper but I worked on the recognizer RFD based on the discussions we've had so far. The new document is available at http://amforth.sourceforge.net/pr/Recognizer-rfc-B.pdf via http://amforth.sourceforge.net/Recognizers.html The 2nd version of the RFD adds the ' and ['] to the normative section. This a more formal addition, I think it's obvious to do so. The extended rationale should make some things clear and give reason *why* I choosed the proposed recognizer design. And why I left out some things like the search order replacement. It is technically possible, no doubt. But too much for a little RFD. Thanks to all who participated, I highly appreciate your feedback and contributions. Matthias
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| From | Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> |
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| Date | 2015-09-21 20:11 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <mtph57$tmi$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #42093 |
Matthias Trute wrote: >> The deadline for non-refereed papers for EuroForth 2015 is on Tuesday, >> September 22nd, so it's time to start finishing your paper and get it >> ready to submit. > > Its not a paper but I worked on the recognizer RFD based on > the discussions we've had so far. > > The new document is available at > http://amforth.sourceforge.net/pr/Recognizer-rfc-B.pdf > via http://amforth.sourceforge.net/Recognizers.html > > The 2nd version of the RFD adds the ' and ['] to the normative > section. This a more formal addition, I think it's obvious to do > so. > > The extended rationale should make some things clear and give > reason *why* I choosed the proposed recognizer design. And why > I left out some things like the search order replacement. It > is technically possible, no doubt. But too much for a little > RFD. > > Thanks to all who participated, I highly appreciate your > feedback and contributions. Concerning the postpone action and ' and ['] using recognizers: IMHO, there's not much point in generating a super-efficient postpone, but you can use ' and ['] together with literals, if the postpone method is modified to *only* contain the work to save the i*x part of the recognizer output into the dictionary. The remaining action of postpone is generic. So POSTPONE executes the literal-append part of the r:table and then appends the r:table as literal and the compilation part of the r:table. ' and ['] can check if the literal-append part is empty (a noop), and if not, create a quotation that contains that literal, and appends the _r>int part of the table. I.e. ['] 3 becomes something like [: 3 noop ;], with an easy opportunity to optimize away the noop. This is not mandatory, but I'd like to implement it that way. And that means the postpone part has to be changed to the essential core (the handling of the recognizer-specific i*x), and the rest is done by POSTPONE. That means r:num is defined as : lit, postpone literal ; ' noop ' lit, ' lit, recognizer r:num and POSTPONE is defined as : postpone ( "name" -- ) parse-name do-recognizer >r r@ _r>lit execute r> _r>comp compile, ; following your reference implementations. This also makes the simple two-part table easier to implement, as *only* the compilation part (perform literal part+append interpretation part) needs to be generated. -- Bernd Paysan "If you want it done right, you have to do it yourself" net2o ID: kQusJzA;7*?t=uy@X}1GWr!+0qqp_Cn176t4(dQ* http://bernd-paysan.de/
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| From | Matthias Trute <matthias.trute@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-23 11:29 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <e35431a1-b480-4e57-b5c0-e070cdb60f1f@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #42103 |
> > That means r:num is defined as > > : lit, postpone literal ; > ' noop ' lit, ' lit, recognizer r:num That is the proposed definition, with 3 methods. The 3rd element is essentially not used any longer, right? (I suppose, you mean recognizer: instead of recognizer). > > and POSTPONE is defined as > > : postpone ( "name" -- ) > parse-name do-recognizer >r > r@ _r>lit execute r> _r>comp compile, ; What does _r>lit do? I tried _r>int but that crashed at the first test from https://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/forth/postponetest.fs so I'm pretty sure your _r>lit does something else. Mathias
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| From | Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> |
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| Date | 2015-09-23 21:03 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <mtusv2$l3n$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #42142 |
Matthias Trute wrote: >> >> That means r:num is defined as >> >> : lit, postpone literal ; >> ' noop ' lit, ' lit, recognizer r:num > > That is the proposed definition, with 3 methods. > The 3rd element is essentially not used any longer, > right? Of course it's used, for POSTPONE and to create a quotation for ['] 5 or other ticked literals. > (I suppose, you mean recognizer: instead of recognizer). Yes. >> >> and POSTPONE is defined as >> >> : postpone ( "name" -- ) >> parse-name do-recognizer >r >> r@ _r>lit execute r> _r>comp compile, ; > > What does _r>lit do? I tried _r>int but that > crashed at the first test from > https://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/forth/postponetest.fs > so I'm pretty sure your _r>lit does something else. _r>lit is the replacement for _r>postpone, renamed, as the purpose of the third field is now different. -- Bernd Paysan "If you want it done right, you have to do it yourself" net2o ID: kQusJzA;7*?t=uy@X}1GWr!+0qqp_Cn176t4(dQ* http://bernd-paysan.de/
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| From | Matthias Trute <matthias.trute@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-27 03:02 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <2f221c78-57c6-434c-ac2d-62d724edab0d@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #42145 |
> _r>lit is the replacement for _r>postpone, renamed, as the purpose of the > third field is now different. If I understand you correctly, your POSTPONE action is simply compile the data returned from the parsing word verbatim to the dictionary as literal(s) and appending the compile action to be executed later. that way r:word turns into ' _r>int ( i*x xt flag -- j*y) ' _r>comp ( xt flag -- ) :noname postpone 2litetal ; ( xt flag -- ) recognizer: r:word without any further modification. A quick test with the postponetester.fs indicate that this may work indeed even for immediate words. wrt the name: _r>lit sounds more like a single cell literal which is definitely wrong. I'd keep the name and change the semantics. Matthias PS: it seems, that version 3 is starting sooner than expected. :)
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| From | Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-21 01:13 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <b4a278a3-9975-4077-928f-8a3731a587b5@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #42092 |
On Sunday, 20 September 2015 09:49:41 UTC+1, Anton Ertl wrote: > The deadline for non-refereed papers for EuroForth 2015 is on Tuesday, > September 22nd, so it's time to start finishing your paper and get it > ready to submit. Call for papers and submission instructions: > > <http://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/anton/euroforth/ef15/cfp.html> > > - anton > -- > M. Anton Ertl http://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/anton/home.html > comp.lang.forth FAQs: http://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/forth/faq/toc.html > New standard: http://www.forth200x.org/forth200x.html > EuroForth 2015: http://www.rigwit.co.uk/EuroForth2015/ Was going to submit one but out of time. Maybe next year.
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| From | anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) |
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| Date | 2015-09-21 09:26 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <2015Sep21.112627@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> |
| In reply to | #42099 |
Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> writes:
>On Sunday, 20 September 2015 09:49:41 UTC+1, Anton Ertl wrote:
>> The deadline for non-refereed papers for EuroForth 2015 is on Tuesday,
>> September 22nd, so it's time to start finishing your paper and get it
>> ready to submit. Call for papers and submission instructions:
>>
>> <http://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/anton/euroforth/ef15/cfp.html>
>>
>> - anton
>> --
>> M. Anton Ertl http://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/anton/home.html
>> comp.lang.forth FAQs: http://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/forth/faq/toc.html
>> New standard: http://www.forth200x.org/forth200x.html
>> EuroForth 2015: http://www.rigwit.co.uk/EuroForth2015/
>
>Was going to submit one but out of time. Maybe next year.
If you miss this deadline, but manage to have the paper ready at the
conference, I can include it as late paper in the online proceedings;
if you look at the proceedings of the last few years, there are always
a few such cases:-).
- anton
--
M. Anton Ertl http://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/anton/home.html
comp.lang.forth FAQs: http://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/forth/faq/toc.html
New standard: http://www.forth200x.org/forth200x.html
EuroForth 2015: http://www.rigwit.co.uk/EuroForth2015/
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| From | JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com> |
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| Date | 2015-10-03 03:46 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <77e8a12f-61a0-43f0-b378-ade50bc22b9f@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #42100 |
On Monday, September 21, 2015 at 10:28:50 AM UTC+1, Anton Ertl wrote: > Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> writes: > >On Sunday, 20 September 2015 09:49:41 UTC+1, Anton Ertl wrote: > >> The deadline for non-refereed papers for EuroForth 2015 is on Tuesday, > >> September 22nd, so it's time to start finishing your paper and get it > >> ready to submit. Call for papers and submission instructions: > >> > >> <http://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/anton/euroforth/ef15/cfp.html> > >> > >> - anton > >> -- > >> M. Anton Ertl http://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/anton/home.html > >> comp.lang.forth FAQs: http://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/forth/faq/toc.html > >> New standard: http://www.forth200x.org/forth200x.html > >> EuroForth 2015: http://www.rigwit.co.uk/EuroForth2015/ > > > >Was going to submit one but out of time. Maybe next year. > > If you miss this deadline, but manage to have the paper ready at the > conference, I can include it as late paper in the online proceedings; > if you look at the proceedings of the last few years, there are always > a few such cases:-). > > - anton > -- > M. Anton Ertl http://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/anton/home.html > comp.lang.forth FAQs: http://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/forth/faq/toc.html > New standard: http://www.forth200x.org/forth200x.html > EuroForth 2015: http://www.rigwit.co.uk/EuroForth2015/ EUROFORTH in BATH Spent a day there yesterday - quite an experience to see and meet some of the people that you see on CLF. As well I had the opportunity to sit in on part of the Standards Committee Meeting as I arrived early - and participate, give my input. And saw the effort they put in. Preparing, discussing, continue after the meeting. It seems all of this effort is not even appreciated by the rest of the community - at least I have not read it anywhere on CLF yet. It is definitely not a "closed club" as some people try to paint it here to rant on and piss everybody else off. And new people can join and participate in many ways - as I did. A standard is by definition never as good as an optimized implementation - if you do not want to be compatible - just don't and live with the optimized version. If you have valuable input do it. And if you do not understand what a standard is - well ... It was quite a different experience to see this work compared to wasting my time on a thread here this morning where a lot of people just rant - but seem not to have had read the standard and the open options. And the thread started very positively by somebody new to Forth. It probably reflects the way they will treat a new colleague starting at their employer. My summary is very simple: Change the name to Commercial Forth Language Definitions rather than ANS Forth. Then the commercial progression of Forth is not hindered, - and by the same people as now - and the rest of the Forth community could either support this effort, or for example implement in the same way - or do what they like to do differently - so not much different to how the Forth Community works now, but giving the Commercial Vendors the opportunity to steer their product to more success of the Forth Language. - my 2 cents. PS: there was a very nice presentation about comparing Forth to Python and how changes / modifications are handled: Every suggestion is allowed and can be discussed One person decides - the owner of Python From Wikipedia: Van Rossum is Python's principal author, and his continuing central role in deciding the direction of Python is reflected in the title given to him by the Python community, benevolent dictator for life (BDFL). I suggest the same for Forth - but 2 people - Steve and Leon - alternating year by year. It would not change much, but decisions could be taken more quickly and all of the rants about a closed group would disappear. The supporters would still do the same work to help. And the rest of the community as well, having all of the freedom they love and want.
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| From | hughaguilar96@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2015-10-03 22:56 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <6165b5c7-f844-47ac-b843-9cf6b84eb9fb@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #42336 |
On Saturday, October 3, 2015 at 3:46:44 AM UTC-7, JUERGEN wrote: > It is definitely not a "closed club" as some people try to paint it here to rant on and piss everybody else off. > And new people can join and participate in many ways - as I did. The fact that you work as a salesman for MPE helps to grease the slide --- they don't want me though! > My summary is very simple: > Change the name to Commercial Forth Language Definitions rather than ANS Forth. I would support this name change --- it is more honest, as it reflects that this is a joint effort from Forth Inc. and MPE. > PS: there was a very nice presentation about comparing Forth to Python > and how changes / modifications are handled: > > Every suggestion is allowed and can be discussed > One person decides - the owner of Python > > From Wikipedia: > Van Rossum is Python's principal author, and his continuing central role in deciding the direction of Python is reflected in the title given to him by the Python community, benevolent dictator for life (BDFL). > > I suggest the same for Forth - but 2 people - Steve and Leon - alternating year by year. > It would not change much, but decisions could be taken more quickly and all of the rants about a closed group would disappear. I would support this too --- more honest, as that is the way it actually is anyway. Forth Inc. and MPE have done "joint projects" according to Elizabeth Rather. I think what this means, is that Forth Inc. (mostly Elizabeth Rather) sells a job (having the company name Forth Inc. convinces most customers that they own the Forth language) --- Forth Inc. lacks any programming talent however, so they then out-source the work to MPE where Stephen Pelc does the actual programming. I don't know what the point is of having Leon Wagner and Stephen Pelc alternate yearly as BDFL (Benevolent Dictator For Life) because Stephen Pelc is essentially an employee of Leon Wagner --- just declare Leon Wagner the BDFL --- this is how Forth-200x works already. All in all, I think Juergen has made good suggestions --- I recommend that Juergen be given some kind of title, such as Chief Courtier --- it can be his job to screen the supplicants so they don't waste too much of the BDFL's time --- it will also be his job to explain to everybody that Forth-200x is not a closed group, so nobody rants on comp.lang.forth. As a final note, let me say that I have a great deal of respect for van Rossum because he invented the Python programming language --- he really earned his BDFL position in the Python community!
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| From | rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-10-04 02:44 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <muqhnp$iu8$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #42349 |
On 10/4/2015 1:56 AM, hughaguilar96@gmail.com wrote: > On Saturday, October 3, 2015 at 3:46:44 AM UTC-7, JUERGEN wrote: >> It is definitely not a "closed club" as some people try to paint it here to rant on and piss everybody else off. >> And new people can join and participate in many ways - as I did. > > The fact that you work as a salesman for MPE helps to grease the slide --- they don't want me though! That is Hugh spin for, "I'm too f**king rude and argumentative to work with anyone to achieve any results in a group setting." ...lots of ranting snipped... > As a final note, let me say that I have a great deal of respect for van Rossum because he invented the Python programming language --- he really earned his BDFL position in the Python community! I'm sure he doesn't hold that against you. -- Rick
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| From | JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com> |
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| Date | 2015-10-04 01:14 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <342bd9bf-8a01-4b96-84c3-081b5ad565b7@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #42349 |
On Sunday, October 4, 2015 at 6:56:30 AM UTC+1, hughag...@gmail.com wrote: > On Saturday, October 3, 2015 at 3:46:44 AM UTC-7, JUERGEN wrote: > > It is definitely not a "closed club" as some people try to paint it here to rant on and piss everybody else off. > > And new people can join and participate in many ways - as I did. > > The fact that you work as a salesman for MPE helps to grease the slide --- they don't want me though! > > > My summary is very simple: > > Change the name to Commercial Forth Language Definitions rather than ANS Forth. > > I would support this name change --- it is more honest, as it reflects that this is a joint effort from Forth Inc. and MPE. > > > PS: there was a very nice presentation about comparing Forth to Python > > and how changes / modifications are handled: > > > > Every suggestion is allowed and can be discussed > > One person decides - the owner of Python > > > > From Wikipedia: > > Van Rossum is Python's principal author, and his continuing central role in deciding the direction of Python is reflected in the title given to him by the Python community, benevolent dictator for life (BDFL). > > > > I suggest the same for Forth - but 2 people - Steve and Leon - alternating year by year. > > It would not change much, but decisions could be taken more quickly and all of the rants about a closed group would disappear. > > I would support this too --- more honest, as that is the way it actually is anyway. > > Forth Inc. and MPE have done "joint projects" according to Elizabeth Rather. I think what this means, is that Forth Inc. (mostly Elizabeth Rather) sells a job (having the company name Forth Inc. convinces most customers that they own the Forth language) --- Forth Inc. lacks any programming talent however, so they then out-source the work to MPE where Stephen Pelc does the actual programming. > > I don't know what the point is of having Leon Wagner and Stephen Pelc alternate yearly as BDFL (Benevolent Dictator For Life) because Stephen Pelc is essentially an employee of Leon Wagner --- just declare Leon Wagner the BDFL --- this is how Forth-200x works already. > > All in all, I think Juergen has made good suggestions --- I recommend that Juergen be given some kind of title, such as Chief Courtier --- it can be his job to screen the supplicants so they don't waste too much of the BDFL's time --- it will also be his job to explain to everybody that Forth-200x is not a closed group, so nobody rants on comp.lang.forth. > > As a final note, let me say that I have a great deal of respect for van Rossum because he invented the Python programming language --- he really earned his BDFL position in the Python community! As I do not know you enough I cannot tell if you are taking the piss or actually mean it as you write it. For the sake of it let's assume the positive. Hugh, There are a few comments to be added to my suggestions and your response. And to connect to business reality: I would waste my time if I try to sell MPE here on CLF. They know better what Stephen has to offer than I could do. You might not have realized that my consultancy is ExMark - and I do consultancy for MPE and for other companies as you can read on my LinkedIN. As most of what I wrote here was for Forth, you could argue that I did a very bad job for MPE - a sales pitch for FORTH INC as well - actually this was as well including you and many others that would profit from a better acceptance of Forth - so shit, I should probably not have done it. I would appreciate if in the future you could cut out the bullshit about sales men. If you get screwed by bad salesmen - your problem. Everybody is buying or selling - even if you want a warm night with your partner. Which is different from doing it professionally. Do you critizise as well my engineering degree as Dipl.-Ing., my electronics design experience, my PR and marketing experience. What counts is works ethics - the rest reflects the success of the work you do - as employee or independently. What you cannot admit to yourself is the fact that you are your own salesman - if you cannot sell yourself - your fridge will be empty soon. Regarding any joint projects MPE and FORTH Inc: I am not privy to any details, but I do know about common business practice: If a project is too big to handle on your own - you share work and profit. Else the project goes elsewhere. The same applies to other aspects of a project: special knowledge, location, if your load is 120% already and other factors - not much different to how you would handle it, as otherwise you would lose out completely. There is as well this other factor - Give and Take, so there might not be money involved at all. IF Forth Inc were to lack the programming talent - which I strongly negate, but just for the sake of it - even then I see no issue. Any serious distribution company works this way - selling products they do not make themselves. And if you could please stop the Elizabeth Rather Bullshit. I can understand that you are handicapped in both hands and cannot pick up the phone to clarify it with her - but HEY, there is skype nowadays to have a chat - sort it and forget it. And if there are is any tool missing or you cannot talk - Stephen Hawkings got help to solve that one - HEY we got a complete CLF here and we could easily start a project to have this tool programmed. At least you must own a PC - or a similar means to do the posts. Leon and Stephen - The market is 100% - independent of size. So there is Stephen, Leon and others to split the pie chart. In the end they are competitors, as only one of them can sell the tool set or do the consultancy job. So every other year they could push for their followers if they were different. So adding a bit of democracy. And grow Forth.
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| From | rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-10-04 05:08 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <muqq7g$cqe$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #42351 |
On 10/4/2015 4:14 AM, JUERGEN wrote: > > As I do not know you enough I cannot tell if you are taking the piss or actually mean it as you write it. For the sake of it let's assume the positive. I've always liked that expression, "taking the piss". Very British. Like a lot of British expressions, I don't know *exactly* what it means, but I gather it is either kidding or possibly just what we would call "talking out of your hat" or bullshitting. There is a show called "Hustle" that uses tons of very British expressions and even though I don't get them entirely, they are fun. <snipped a bunch of stuff that has no value since even if Hugh reads it, no impact will be made> > I would appreciate if in the future you could cut out the bullshit about sales men. As if anything will change what Hugh does or posts here. Maybe some people feel the need to defend their honor. But anyone who reads Hugh's stuff more than twice learns that he is really just ranting for the most part. No need to defend yourself against a crazy person. That's one of the differences on the Internet. We feel empowered to post things we would never say in person. I try to take that into account when someone like Hugh posts his insanities. > And if you could please stop the Elizabeth Rather Bullshit. Again, ain't going to happen. Whatever problem Hugh has, it isn't going to be cured by the sort of "talk therapy" he gets in this group. He needs the kind that costs $125 an hour. > I can understand that you are handicapped in both hands and cannot pick up the phone to clarify it with her - but HEY, there is skype nowadays to have a chat - sort it and forget it. > > And if there are is any tool missing or you cannot talk - Stephen Hawkings got help to solve that one > - HEY we got a complete CLF here and we could easily start a project to have this tool programmed. At least you must own a PC - or a similar means to do the posts. He doesn't want to "forget" it. I don't know the real basis for his problems, but I know they are far beyond his ability to cope with or he would have done that years ago. At least he isn't driving a cab anymore. I am truly sorry that we have to deal with this particular person. But the world is what it is. :) -- Rick
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| From | JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com> |
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| Date | 2015-10-04 04:06 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <68e077cc-aa57-4f36-9b5f-d69b745ce496@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #42352 |
On Sunday, October 4, 2015 at 10:08:59 AM UTC+1, rickman wrote: > On 10/4/2015 4:14 AM, JUERGEN wrote: > > > > As I do not know you enough I cannot tell if you are taking the piss or actually mean it as you write it. For the sake of it let's assume the positive. > > I've always liked that expression, "taking the piss". Very British. > Like a lot of British expressions, I don't know *exactly* what it means, > but I gather it is either kidding or possibly just what we would call > "talking out of your hat" or bullshitting. > > There is a show called "Hustle" that uses tons of very British > expressions and even though I don't get them entirely, they are fun. > > <snipped a bunch of stuff that has no value since even if Hugh reads it, > no impact will be made> > > > > I would appreciate if in the future you could cut out the bullshit about sales men. > > As if anything will change what Hugh does or posts here. Maybe some > people feel the need to defend their honor. But anyone who reads Hugh's > stuff more than twice learns that he is really just ranting for the most > part. No need to defend yourself against a crazy person. > > That's one of the differences on the Internet. We feel empowered to > post things we would never say in person. I try to take that into > account when someone like Hugh posts his insanities. > > > > And if you could please stop the Elizabeth Rather Bullshit. > > Again, ain't going to happen. Whatever problem Hugh has, it isn't going > to be cured by the sort of "talk therapy" he gets in this group. He > needs the kind that costs $125 an hour. > > > > I can understand that you are handicapped in both hands and cannot pick up the phone to clarify it with her - but HEY, there is skype nowadays to have a chat - sort it and forget it. > > > > And if there are is any tool missing or you cannot talk - Stephen Hawkings got help to solve that one > > - HEY we got a complete CLF here and we could easily start a project to have this tool programmed. At least you must own a PC - or a similar means to do the posts. > > He doesn't want to "forget" it. I don't know the real basis for his > problems, but I know they are far beyond his ability to cope with or he > would have done that years ago. At least he isn't driving a cab anymore. > > I am truly sorry that we have to deal with this particular person. But > the world is what it is. :) > > -- > > Rick Thanks Rick, and here what Wikipedia explains https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taking_the_piss And I go for the colloquial usage - rather than the explanations Another example of having overlapping word sets ...
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| From | Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> |
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| Date | 2015-10-04 07:25 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <PPGdnU1IFuRNh4zLnZ2dnUU7-b_46u6z@supernews.com> |
| In reply to | #42353 |
JUERGEN wrote: >[snip] > > Thanks Rick, and here what Wikipedia explains > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taking_the_piss > And I go for the colloquial usage - rather than the explanations > Another example of having overlapping word sets ... > Was it Shaw or Churchill who said something like "The British and Americans are two people separated by a common language." ;}
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| From | JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com> |
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| Date | 2015-10-04 06:49 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ad2b201c-89c2-40a7-a8b0-8526677bb069@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #42354 |
On Sunday, October 4, 2015 at 1:25:54 PM UTC+1, Richard Owlett wrote: > JUERGEN wrote: > >[snip] > > > > Thanks Rick, and here what Wikipedia explains > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taking_the_piss > > And I go for the colloquial usage - rather than the explanations > > Another example of having overlapping word sets ... > > > > Was it Shaw or Churchill who said something like "The British and > Americans are two people separated by a common language." ;} I sat in meetings that proved this point exactly - was quite an advantage for me as I have to do word hopping in both anyway - apart from the dictionary search - to add a bit of Forth.
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| From | Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-10-04 09:21 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <e2bfa196-ff1b-4e88-aa09-2da3475c8a70@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #42354 |
I think it was George Bernard Shaw. Could be wrong.
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| From | hughaguilar96@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2015-10-09 13:24 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <0206abf7-25af-4280-bfe2-707719ece73b@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #42351 |
On Sunday, October 4, 2015 at 1:14:58 AM UTC-7, JUERGEN wrote: > You might not have realized that my consultancy is ExMark - and I do consultancy for MPE and for other companies as you can read on my LinkedIN. You are Juergen Pintaske right? According to this, (http://www.mpeforth.com/about.htm): "Juergen is our marketing and sales person promoting MPE Forth and MPE Consultancy Services."
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| From | "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2015-10-08 22:18 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mv6q2u$ki7$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #42349 |
hughaguilar wrote: > I don't know what the point is of having Leon Wagner and > Stephen Pelc alternate yearly as BDFL (Benevolent Dictator For > Life) because Stephen Pelc is essentially an employee of Leon > Wagner --- just declare Leon Wagner the BDFL --- this is how > Forth-200x works already. > > All in all, I think Juergen has made good suggestions --- I > recommend that Juergen be given some kind of title, such as > Chief Courtier I would prefer M.L.L. or M.B.T. (Most Loathsome Lickspittle or Most Beslubbered Toadeater). > --- it can be his job to screen the supplicants > so they don't waste too much of the BDFL's time -- The report card by the American Society of Civil Engineers showed the national infrastructure a single grade above failure, a step from declining to the point where everyday things simply stop working the way people expect them to. --- washingtonpost.com/local/trafficandcommuting/us-infrastructure-gets-d-in-annual-report/2013/03/19/c48cb010-900b-11e2-9cfd-36d6c9b5d7ad_story.html
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| From | anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) |
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| Date | 2015-10-08 06:59 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <2015Oct8.085929@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> |
| In reply to | #42336 |
JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com> writes:
>My summary is very simple:
>Change the name to Commercial Forth Language Definitions rather than ANS Forth.
It is called "Forth Standard 2012", and it does not just reflect
commercial systems and commercial programmers.
>PS: there was a very nice presentation about comparing Forth to Python
>and how changes / modifications are handled:
>
>Every suggestion is allowed and can be discussed
>One person decides - the owner of Python
You can have the same thing in Forth, actually in each Forth system.
Buy iForth, and one person decides what gets in. Or buy VFX, and one
person decides. Or buy SwiftForth, and one person has the final say.
Or get colorForth, where one person decides; or Reva or RetroForth
etc.
One difference from Python is that in Python one implementation
dominates, while in Forth there is no dominating implementation.
Another difference is that Python has lots of libraries and programs
that are shared among programmers while in Forth there are few.
These two differences are connected: Because there are few portable
Forth programs, there are few incentives for systems to converge. And
because systems are so different and the standard is weak, few
programs and libraries are written to be portable. Plus there is an
anti-library attitude frequently advocated in Forth, while the
attitude in Python is quite pro-libraries.
[Benevolent dictator]
>I suggest the same for Forth - but 2 people - Steve and Leon - alternating year by year.
It seems that they think that that won't fly, or they would have gone
that way already.
- anton
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