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  pbforth for the Lego RCX Bill Gunshannon <bill.gunshannon@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 20:47 -0500
    Re: pbforth for the Lego RCX mentificium@gmail.com - 2016-03-01 22:09 -0800
      Re: pbforth for the Lego RCX Bill Gunshannon <bill.gunshannon@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 09:20 -0500
        Re: pbforth for the Lego RCX Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2016-03-02 17:16 +0000
          Re: pbforth for the Lego RCX Bill Gunshannon <bill.gunshannon@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 16:46 -0500
    Re: pbforth for the Lego RCX Howerd <howerdo@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-03-04 09:52 -0800
      Re: pbforth for the Lego RCX Bill Gunshannon <bill.gunshannon@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 18:55 -0500

#45768 — pbforth for the Lego RCX

Does anyone still have a copy of this?  I spoke with Ralph Hempel and
while he is looking he does not think he even has a copy of it left
in his archives. I have bunch of RCX's and would love to give this a
shot.

bill

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#45772

On Tuesday, March 1, 2016 at 5:47:31 PM UTC-8, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
> Does anyone still have a copy of this?  I spoke with Ralph Hempel and
> while he is looking he does not think he even has a copy of it left
> in his archives. I have bunch of RCX's and would love to give this a
> shot.
> 
> bill

ISTR (I seem to recall) that when Lego Mindstorms went to 
Lego RCX about ten years ago, Mr. Ralph Hempel chose not 
to update his pbForth to the new system. 

http://hempeldesigngroup.com 

indicates that Mr. Hempel now offers 

http://hempeldesigngroup.com/lego/pbLua/ 

i.e., "pbLua for LEGO MINDSTORMS NXT".

I also STR that the "b" in pbForth stood for "brick."

http://mind.sourceforge.net/motorium.html 

is a page from which I was hoping to link 
to pbForth for the Lego RCX, but -- no luck!

http://ai.neocities.org/P6AI_FAQ is my newer work. 

You might ask the question in comp.robotics.misc on Usenet. 

Bottom line -- Ralph maybe never created pbForth for RCX. 

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#45782

On 3/2/16 1:09 AM, mentificium@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 1, 2016 at 5:47:31 PM UTC-8, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>> Does anyone still have a copy of this?  I spoke with Ralph Hempel and
>> while he is looking he does not think he even has a copy of it left
>> in his archives. I have bunch of RCX's and would love to give this a
>> shot.
>>
>> bill
>
> ISTR (I seem to recall) that when Lego Mindstorms went to
> Lego RCX about ten years ago, Mr. Ralph Hempel chose not
> to update his pbForth to the new system.

RCX was the first.  The second one was the NXT.

>
> http://hempeldesigngroup.com
>
> indicates that Mr. Hempel now offers
>
> http://hempeldesigngroup.com/lego/pbLua/
>

Yes, LUA for the NXT.  I am going to look at that as well as I have a
handful of NXT's, too.

> i.e., "pbLua for LEGO MINDSTORMS NXT".
>

Which would be fine if I wanted LUA but at this point I would
really like to try programing the Lego bricks with Forth.  If I
can find all the stuff from his original work other than using it
in the RCX I would like to look at porting it to the NXT and even
the EV3.

> I also STR that the "b" in pbForth stood for "brick."

Yes, my understanding is that pbforth was an embeded system for
the RCX brick.

>
> http://mind.sourceforge.net/motorium.html
>
> is a page from which I was hoping to link
> to pbForth for the Lego RCX, but -- no luck!

Ralph's pbforth page just returns a blank screen.  I contacted him
but he said he does not think he even has a copy.  I was hoping someone
might have all the old stuff sitting around somewhere.

>
> http://ai.neocities.org/P6AI_FAQ is my newer work.

Don't know what your work is, but I will definitely take a look to
see if it meets any of my interests.

>
> You might ask the question in comp.robotics.misc on Usenet.

I have looked there but I don't remember seeing anything about
Lego bricks there.  I'll look again.

>
> Bottom line -- Ralph maybe never created pbForth for RCX.
>
No, definitely did.  RCX was the first Lego brick.  I think you
may have the order reversed.

bill

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#45783

>Ralph's pbforth page just returns a blank screen.  I contacted him
>but he said he does not think he even has a copy.  I was hoping someone
>might have all the old stuff sitting around somewhere.

Did you try the wayback machine?


>bill

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#45790

On 3/2/16 12:16 PM, Albert van der Horst wrote:
>> Ralph's pbforth page just returns a blank screen.  I contacted him
>> but he said he does not think he even has a copy.  I was hoping someone
>> might have all the old stuff sitting around somewhere.
>
> Did you try the wayback machine?
>
>
>> bill
>
> Groetjes Albert
>

Actually, no.  I had never used it although I had heard of it.
Interesting. I was able to grab a bunch of stuff and now I will
need to look at it and see if I can use it.

Dank u vel.

bill

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#45832

On Wednesday, 2 March 2016 01:47:31 UTC, Bill Gunshannon  wrote:
> Does anyone still have a copy of this?  I spoke with Ralph Hempel and
> while he is looking he does not think he even has a copy of it left
> in his archives. I have bunch of RCX's and would love to give this a
> shot.
> 
> bill

Hi Bill,

I found a copy of pbForth2.zip in my Forth archives - I've uploaded it here :

www.inventio.co.uk/pbForth2.zip

in case its useful. I'm not sure what the 2 in the name signifies.
No idea where I got it from...

Best regards,
Howerd

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#45844

On 3/4/16 12:52 PM, Howerd wrote:
> On Wednesday, 2 March 2016 01:47:31 UTC, Bill Gunshannon  wrote:
>> Does anyone still have a copy of this?  I spoke with Ralph Hempel and
>> while he is looking he does not think he even has a copy of it left
>> in his archives. I have bunch of RCX's and would love to give this a
>> shot.
>>
>> bill
>
> Hi Bill,
>
> I found a copy of pbForth2.zip in my Forth archives - I've uploaded it here :
>
> www.inventio.co.uk/pbForth2.zip
>
> in case its useful. I'm not sure what the 2 in the name signifies.
> No idea where I got it from...
>
> Best regards,
> Howerd
>

When I get a chance I will grab it. (Very limited INTERNET access
where I now live.) I have a version I found on the wayback machine
running but much of it doesn't seem to work too well.  I was able
to get pbforth loaded on the brick but have  not gotten any forth
programs downloaded.  But I am definitely closer.  Now, if I could
just find forth for the NXT and the EV3 as well.  :-)

bill

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