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  Philae Lander - What Next? Jason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com> - 2014-11-24 09:02 -0800
    Re: Philae Lander - What Next? the_gavino_himself <visphatesjava@gmail.com> - 2014-11-24 19:37 -0800
      Re: Philae Lander - What Next? Jason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com> - 2014-11-25 09:39 -0800
        Re: Philae Lander - What Next? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-11-25 14:55 -0500
    Re: Philae Lander - What Next? Paul E Bennett <Paul_E.Bennett@topmail.co.uk> - 2014-11-25 18:45 +0000
    Re: Philae Lander - What Next? visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-12-17 16:24 -0800
      Re: Philae Lander - What Next? Jason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com> - 2014-12-18 08:56 -0800
        Re: Philae Lander - What Next? Jason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com> - 2014-12-18 09:51 -0800

#34607 — Philae Lander - What Next?

Philae Lander - What Next?


British Company Announces Crowdfunded Lunar Mission

http://www.spacenews.com/article/civil-space/42598british-company-announces-crowdfunded-lunar-mission

Now, the proposition that launch costs are able to be greatly reduced is not an absurd one.  If Elon Musk can reliable reuse his first stage rocket, then it may happen.  If SpaceX are not fiddling around with their numbers too much, it might cost only $7 million dollars to launch a probe or a lander or a rover to the Moon.  That would just be the cost of the launcher, not including the lander and other costs involved.  There is some potential revenue to be had with this.  I think that the three billion dollars touted by Lunar Mission One for their potential revenue sounds quite high, but I certainly think that it is possible that if successful, they may not loose their shirts on this one.

Elon Musk is already putting pressure on the global launch industry.  Both in the United States and overseas.

http://www.spacenews.com/article/launch-report/42610europe%E2%80%99s-satellite-operators-urge-swift-development-of-ariane-6

Lunar Mission One appears to be well on track to achieving their Kickstarter goal.

http://www.lunarmissionone.com/

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/lunarmissionone/lunar-mission-one-a-new-lunar-mission-for-everyone

I would like to encourage anybody who was involved with the Philae mission to keep abreast of this.  I would also like to encourage anybody involved with Forth for the Philae lander to contact Lunar Mission One, or any other company which would like to take advantage of the new lower launch costs offered by SpaceX.  This is because a certain rad-hardened Forth microprocessor may be the lowest cost, most reliable, and lowest power alternative for a range of privately funded space missions.

Jason

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#34621

On Monday, November 24, 2014 12:02:27 PM UTC-5, Jason Damisch wrote:
> Philae Lander - What Next?
> 
> 
> British Company Announces Crowdfunded Lunar Mission
> 
> http://www.spacenews.com/article/civil-space/42598british-company-announces-crowdfunded-lunar-mission
> 
> Now, the proposition that launch costs are able to be greatly reduced is not an absurd one.  If Elon Musk can reliable reuse his first stage rocket, then it may happen.  If SpaceX are not fiddling around with their numbers too much, it might cost only $7 million dollars to launch a probe or a lander or a rover to the Moon.  That would just be the cost of the launcher, not including the lander and other costs involved.  There is some potential revenue to be had with this.  I think that the three billion dollars touted by Lunar Mission One for their potential revenue sounds quite high, but I certainly think that it is possible that if successful, they may not loose their shirts on this one.
> 
> Elon Musk is already putting pressure on the global launch industry.  Both in the United States and overseas.
> 
> http://www.spacenews.com/article/launch-report/42610europe%E2%80%99s-satellite-operators-urge-swift-development-of-ariane-6
> 
> Lunar Mission One appears to be well on track to achieving their Kickstarter goal.
> 
> http://www.lunarmissionone.com/
> 
> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/lunarmissionone/lunar-mission-one-a-new-lunar-mission-for-everyone
> 
> I would like to encourage anybody who was involved with the Philae mission to keep abreast of this.  I would also like to encourage anybody involved with Forth for the Philae lander to contact Lunar Mission One, or any other company which would like to take advantage of the new lower launch costs offered by SpaceX.  This is because a certain rad-hardened Forth microprocessor may be the lowest cost, most reliable, and lowest power alternative for a range of privately funded space missions.
> 
> Jason

elon musk is a crony communist who will soak up tons of tax money while not giving the patent rights to the taxpeyer

sad

what a leech

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#34638

On Monday, November 24, 2014 7:37:47 PM UTC-8, the_gavino_himself wrote:

> what a leech

Well, if you yourself could gain access to potentially billions of dollars from the government, wouldn't you take it as well?  Or, perhaps you are one of those rare people who would forgo personal gain for their principles?  If the government handed you a check, would you refuse?

Elon Musk has create perhaps thousands of jobs, or more.  How many jobs have you created Gavino?

I wanted this thread to be a serious discussion about the future possibilities afforded by reduced access to outer space, but I suppose that this will be another flame-fest.  :^)

So much for the experiment of unlimited communication without barriers, boundaries, or borders.  A tragedy of the commons?

I suppose that most people don't take (ab)Usenet very seriously for this reason.

Jason

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#34643

On 11/25/2014 12:39 PM, Jason Damisch wrote:
> On Monday, November 24, 2014 7:37:47 PM UTC-8, the_gavino_himself wrote:
>
>> what a leech
>
> Well, if you yourself could gain access to potentially billions of dollars from the government, wouldn't you take it as well?  Or, perhaps you are one of those rare people who would forgo personal gain for their principles?  If the government handed you a check, would you refuse?
>
> Elon Musk has create perhaps thousands of jobs, or more.  How many jobs have you created Gavino?
>
> I wanted this thread to be a serious discussion about the future possibilities afforded by reduced access to outer space, but I suppose that this will be another flame-fest.  :^)
>
> So much for the experiment of unlimited communication without barriers, boundaries, or borders.  A tragedy of the commons?
>
> I suppose that most people don't take (ab)Usenet very seriously for this reason.

Or some of us just ignore the crap.  When I see dog poo on the sidewalk, 
I don't get upset and complain out loud that people should curb their 
dogs.  I either kick it to the gutter (if it's not overly fresh) or just 
keep walking...

-- 

Rick

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#34640

Jason Damisch wrote:

> Philae Lander - What Next?
> 
> 
> British Company Announces Crowdfunded Lunar Mission
> 
> http://www.spacenews.com/article/civil-space/42598british-company-announces-crowdfunded-lunar-mission
> 
> Now, the proposition that launch costs are able to be greatly reduced is
> not an absurd one.  If Elon Musk can reliable reuse his first stage
> rocket, then it may happen.  If SpaceX are not fiddling around with their
> numbers too much, it might cost only $7 million dollars to launch a probe
> or a lander or a rover to the Moon.  That would just be the cost of the
> launcher, not including the lander and other costs involved.  There is
> some potential revenue to be had with this.  I think that the three
> billion dollars touted by Lunar Mission One for their potential revenue
> sounds quite high, but I certainly think that it is possible that if
> successful, they may not loose their shirts on this one.
> 
> Elon Musk is already putting pressure on the global launch industry.  Both
> in the United States and overseas.
> 
> http://www.spacenews.com/article/launch-report/42610europe%E2%80%99s-satellite-operators-urge-swift-development-of-ariane-6
> 
> Lunar Mission One appears to be well on track to achieving their
> Kickstarter goal.
> 
> http://www.lunarmissionone.com/
> 
> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/lunarmissionone/lunar-mission-one-a-new-lunar-mission-for-everyone
> 
> I would like to encourage anybody who was involved with the Philae mission
> to keep abreast of this.  I would also like to encourage anybody involved
> with Forth for the Philae lander to contact Lunar Mission One, or any
> other company which would like to take advantage of the new lower launch
> costs offered by SpaceX.  This is because a certain rad-hardened Forth
> microprocessor may be the lowest cost, most reliable, and lowest power
> alternative for a range of privately funded space missions.
> 
> Jason

Thanks for the heads-up Jason.

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#35003

On Monday, November 24, 2014 12:02:27 PM UTC-5, Jason Damisch wrote:
> Philae Lander - What Next?
> 
> 
> British Company Announces Crowdfunded Lunar Mission
> 
> http://www.spacenews.com/article/civil-space/42598british-company-announces-crowdfunded-lunar-mission
> 
> Now, the proposition that launch costs are able to be greatly reduced is not an absurd one.  If Elon Musk can reliable reuse his first stage rocket, then it may happen.  If SpaceX are not fiddling around with their numbers too much, it might cost only $7 million dollars to launch a probe or a lander or a rover to the Moon.  That would just be the cost of the launcher, not including the lander and other costs involved.  There is some potential revenue to be had with this.  I think that the three billion dollars touted by Lunar Mission One for their potential revenue sounds quite high, but I certainly think that it is possible that if successful, they may not loose their shirts on this one.
> 
> Elon Musk is already putting pressure on the global launch industry.  Both in the United States and overseas.
> 
> http://www.spacenews.com/article/launch-report/42610europe%E2%80%99s-satellite-operators-urge-swift-development-of-ariane-6
> 
> Lunar Mission One appears to be well on track to achieving their Kickstarter goal.
> 
> http://www.lunarmissionone.com/
> 
> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/lunarmissionone/lunar-mission-one-a-new-lunar-mission-for-everyone
> 
> I would like to encourage anybody who was involved with the Philae mission to keep abreast of this.  I would also like to encourage anybody involved with Forth for the Philae lander to contact Lunar Mission One, or any other company which would like to take advantage of the new lower launch costs offered by SpaceX.  This is because a certain rad-hardened Forth microprocessor may be the lowest cost, most reliable, and lowest power alternative for a range of privately funded space missions.
> 
> Jason

This is next now:

Comet landing named Physics World 2014 Breakthrough of the Year !
http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/2014/dec/12/comet-landing-named-physics-world-2014-breakthrough-of-the-year

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#35010

Lunar Mission One meets its Kickstarter goal

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/lunarmissionone/lunar-mission-one-a-new-lunar-mission-for-everyone

Jason

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#35011

Smallest Cheapest Satellites 

http://www.gizmag.com/build-your-own-satellite-pocketqube/35217/

Jason

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