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  Chuck's new Forth astrobefr <fdubois76@gmail.com> - 2014-11-16 03:03 -0800
    Re: Chuck's new Forth Jason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com> - 2014-11-16 10:34 -0800
      Re: Chuck's new Forth Paul E Bennett <Paul_E.Bennett@topmail.co.uk> - 2014-11-16 19:54 +0000
        Re: Chuck's new Forth Jason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com> - 2014-11-16 11:59 -0800
          Re: Chuck's new Forth Jason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com> - 2014-11-16 12:02 -0800
            Re: Chuck's new Forth Jason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com> - 2014-11-16 12:03 -0800
            Re: Chuck's new Forth Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2014-11-16 12:26 -0800

#34432 — Chuck's new Forth

Chuck Moore has announced he've been working on a new incarnation of Forth, which is actually a decompiler. It looks like a follow-up to the OK experiment. The description of it is partial as we lose audio on the last part of his talk at Forth FIG. Does anyone has more about it?

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#34443

I was there yesterday and I did jot down a few notes.  

As far as watching the road, and not using a map but seeing the territory, this would seem to be the way to go.  

[ in my opinion, this approach may not work well for a Megaforth.  It would be more appropriate to a Microforth. That would be because when you have a few megabytes of Forth object code, and then you have to update that many addresses when you insert something near the beginning of your program, it would take a long time to update those addresses.  Multiply that by hundreds or even thousands of times during the course of the development phase, and it may be pokey.  But, I have not tried it. ]

Actually, in comparing my notes with the video, about where it cuts out is where Chuck stops talking about Forth 46.0  Afterwards he talks about the GA144 a little bit.  He wants to continue to develop that technology. 

Thanks for watching.

Jason

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Jason Damisch wrote:

> I was there yesterday and I did jot down a few notes.
> 
> As far as watching the road, and not using a map but seeing the territory,
> this would seem to be the way to go.
> 
> [ in my opinion, this approach may not work well for a Megaforth.  It
> [ would be more appropriate to a Microforth. That would be because when
> [ you have a few megabytes of Forth object code, and then you have to
> [ update that many addresses when you insert something near the beginning
> [ of your program, it would take a long time to update those addresses. 
> [ Multiply that by hundreds or even thousands of times during the course
> [ of the development phase, and it may be pokey.  But, I have not tried
> [ it. ]
> 
> Actually, in comparing my notes with the video, about where it cuts out is
> where Chuck stops talking about Forth 46.0  Afterwards he talks about the
> GA144 a little bit.  He wants to continue to develop that technology.
> 
> Thanks for watching.
> 
> Jason

I gather that the microphone batteries died at that point and no-one there 
noticed you weren't streaming audio any more.

Although the de-compiler only with an "edit/run" cycle might appeal to some 
but there would be difficulty in getting that sort of practice accpted in 
the High Integrity Systems market-place, where they insist there is a design 
and decent documentation before you get to coding.

I am sue the GA144 stuff would have been interesting to hear but sadly I was 
one of those denied hearing his words on that. Did they have any other 
cameras on for Chuck's talk that may have recorded his entire talk?

Anyway, now going to watch the special "Sky at Night" on BBC4 in a few 
minutes. This is on the Rosetta mission and more about the Philae Lander 
(which I didn't hear Chuck mention).

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#34448

On Sunday, November 16, 2014 11:54:46 AM UTC-8, Paul E Bennett wrote:

> Anyway, now going to watch the special "Sky at Night" on BBC4 in a few 
> minutes. This is on the Rosetta mission and more about the Philae Lander 
> (which I didn't hear Chuck mention).


Looking for a link to that myself.  I want to watch!!!!

Jason

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#34449

On Sunday, November 16, 2014 11:59:04 AM UTC-8, Jason Damisch wrote:

> Looking for a link to that myself.  I want to watch!!!!

I get to the BBC 4 site and click on the live link to watch 
and get this message.


BBC iPlayer TV programmes are available to play in the UK only. 
Find out why.

If you are in the UK and see this message please read this advice.

:^/

Jason

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#34450

I got to congratulate Chuck personally for landing on a Comet!

:^)

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#34452

If you have a VPN where you can pop out in the UK then you can watch it. 

Apparently ;-)

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