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Re: Julian Noble's Scientific Forth

Started byPaul E Bennett <Paul_E.Bennett@topmail.co.uk>
First post2014-01-06 11:34 +0000
Last post2014-01-13 10:32 -0800
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  Re: Julian Noble's Scientific Forth Paul E Bennett <Paul_E.Bennett@topmail.co.uk> - 2014-01-06 11:34 +0000
    Re: Julian Noble's Scientific Forth Paul E Bennett <Paul_E.Bennett@topmail.co.uk> - 2014-01-06 12:36 +0000
      Re: Julian Noble's Scientific Forth stephenXXX@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2014-01-06 14:03 +0000
    Re: Julian Noble's Scientific Forth visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-01-06 17:17 -0800
    Re: Julian Noble's Scientific Forth Ed Falat <efalat%ieee.org@gtempaccount.com> - 2014-01-13 09:32 -0800
      Re: Julian Noble's Scientific Forth Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-13 10:32 -0800

#27699 — Re: Julian Noble's Scientific Forth

FromPaul E Bennett <Paul_E.Bennett@topmail.co.uk>
Date2014-01-06 11:34 +0000
SubjectRe: Julian Noble's Scientific Forth
Message-ID<bivimnF48f4U1@mid.individual.net>
As it had already slipped into the depths from my newsreader I figured I 
would have to start a new thread.

I have had a response from Graham Dunbar who suggested that the Forth 
Bibliography links should be trawled if we are going to do any worthwhile 
saving. Not just Julians book but also the other material that is not yet 
on-line anywhere (like older versions of Forthwrite and other private 
papers). EuroForml has some of the historical content online already. There 
are, however, some of the earlier proceedings not in electronic format.

The link Graham Dunbar provided (with a note) is:-
I’m not sure how many online Forth bibliographies there are, but this one 
looks like it is on the verge of extinction:
<http://web.archive.org/web/20000618103317/http:/cis.paisley.ac.uk/forth/search.html>

I tried the link but if someone knows their way around that archive it might 
help if they could ensure a grab of what is there.

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#27700

FromPaul E Bennett <Paul_E.Bennett@topmail.co.uk>
Date2014-01-06 12:36 +0000
Message-ID<bivma0F50iuU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#27699
Paul E Bennett wrote:

> As it had already slipped into the depths from my newsreader I figured I
> would have to start a new thread.
> 
> I have had a response from Graham Dunbar who suggested that the Forth
> Bibliography links should be trawled if we are going to do any worthwhile
> saving. Not just Julians book but also the other material that is not yet
> on-line anywhere (like older versions of Forthwrite and other private
> papers). EuroForml has some of the historical content online already.
> There are, however, some of the earlier proceedings not in electronic
> format.
> 
> The link Graham Dunbar provided (with a note) is:-
> I’m not sure how many online Forth bibliographies there are, but this one
> looks like it is on the verge of extinction:
> 
<http://web.archive.org/web/20000618103317/http:/cis.paisley.ac.uk/forth/search.html>
> 
> I tried the link but if someone knows their way around that archive it
> might help if they could ensure a grab of what is there.
> 

Another link with a bibliography is:-
http://dec.bournemouth.ac.uk/forth/search.html

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Paul E. Bennett IEng MIET.....<email://Paul_E.Bennett@topmail.co.uk>
Forth based HIDECS Consultancy.............<http://www.hidecs.co.uk>
Mob: +44 (0)7811-639972
Tel: +44 (0)1235-510979
Going Forth Safely ..... EBA. www.electric-boat-association.org.uk..
********************************************************************

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#27701

FromstephenXXX@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc)
Date2014-01-06 14:03 +0000
Message-ID<52cab786.1131813024@news.demon.co.uk>
In reply to#27700
On Mon, 06 Jan 2014 12:36:16 +0000, Paul E Bennett
<Paul_E.Bennett@topmail.co.uk> wrote:

><http://web.archive.org/web/20000618103317/http:/cis.paisley.ac.uk/forth/search.html>

>Another link with a bibliography is:-
>http://dec.bournemouth.ac.uk/forth/search.html

Both of those were originated by Peter Knaggs.

Stephen


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#27705

Fromvisualforth@rocketmail.com
Date2014-01-06 17:17 -0800
Message-ID<5c55aa4b-7224-452a-a8ac-f7a13a568ef7@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#27699
On Monday, January 6, 2014 6:34:46 AM UTC-5, Paul E Bennett wrote:
> As it had already slipped into the depths from my newsreader I figured I 
> would have to start a new thread.
> 

I hope it doesn't need to start a new thread to complain about Forth missing in the official Scientific Programming league:

Ten Good Practices in Scientific Programming
by Paul F. Dubois, Published by the IEEE Computer Society 
JANUARY-FEBRUARY 1999 (Vol. 1, No. 1) pp. 7-11 © 1999 IEEE 

Just came by email a few minutes ago:
http://www.computer.org/portal/web/computingnow/content?g=53319&type=article&urlTitle=ten-good-practices-in-scientific-programming

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#27874

FromEd Falat <efalat%ieee.org@gtempaccount.com>
Date2014-01-13 09:32 -0800
Message-ID<cc09a8ae-a0d6-433b-a637-fb64f8b168ca@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#27699
On Monday, January 6, 2014 6:34:46 AM UTC-5, Paul E Bennett wrote:

> I have had a response from Graham Dunbar who suggested that the Forth 
> 
> Bibliography links should be trawled if we are going to do any worthwhile 
> 
> saving. Not just Julians book but also the other material that is not yet 
> 
> on-line anywhere (like older versions of Forthwrite and other private 
> 
> papers). EuroForml has some of the historical content online already. There 
> 
> are, however, some of the earlier proceedings not in electronic format.
> 
> 
> 
> The link Graham Dunbar provided (with a note) is:-
> 
> I’m not sure how many online Forth bibliographies there are, but this one 
> 
> looks like it is on the verge of extinction:

I was looking for a forth implementation on github and noticed that a couple of kind souls have started collections of forth documents. This might be a more enduring spot for some of Julian's works. I'll have to see if I have anything worth adding. 

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#27876

FromPaul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid>
Date2014-01-13 10:32 -0800
Message-ID<7xob3fivh1.fsf@ruckus.brouhaha.com>
In reply to#27874
Ed Falat <efalat%ieee.org@gtempaccount.com> writes:
> I was looking for a forth implementation on github and noticed that a
> couple of kind souls have started collections of forth documents. This
> might be a more enduring spot for some of Julian's works. I'll have to
> see if I have anything worth adding.

Github?  Yikes ;-).  Try archive.org which is intended for that sort of
thing.

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