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Tim Hentlass - Real Time Forth ( for F-PC ) - the Forth Bookshelf has been extended

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  Tim Hentlass - Real Time Forth  ( for F-PC ) - the Forth Bookshelf has been extended JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com> - 2017-04-12 01:09 -0700
    Re: Tim Hentlass - Real Time Forth  ( for F-PC ) - the Forth Bookshelf has been extended Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2017-04-12 01:31 -0700
      Re: Tim Hentlass - Real Time Forth  ( for F-PC ) - the Forth Bookshelf has been extended JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com> - 2017-04-12 01:47 -0700
        Re: Tim Hentlass - Real Time Forth  ( for F-PC ) - the Forth Bookshelf has been extended Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2017-04-12 02:04 -0700
          Re: Tim Hentlass - Real Time Forth  ( for F-PC ) - the ForthBookshelf has been extended "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2017-04-13 11:00 +1000
            Re: Tim Hentlass - Real Time Forth ( for F-PC ) - the ForthBookshelf has been extended rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-04-12 23:13 -0400
              Re: Tim Hentlass - Real Time Forth ( for F-PC ) - the ForthBookshelfhas been extended "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2017-04-13 13:26 +1000
                Re: Tim Hentlass - Real Time Forth ( for F-PC ) - the ForthBookshelfhas been extended Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-12 21:17 -0700
                Re: Tim Hentlass - Real Time Forth ( for F-PC ) - the ForthBookshelfhas been extended rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-04-13 02:52 -0400
              Re: Tim Hentlass - Real Time Forth ( for F-PC ) - the ForthBookshelf has been extended Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-04-13 00:24 -0500
          Re: Tim Hentlass - Real Time Forth  ( for F-PC ) - the Forth Bookshelf has been extended JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com> - 2017-04-13 02:46 -0700

#57119 — Tim Hentlass - Real Time Forth ( for F-PC ) - the Forth Bookshelf has been extended

FromJUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com>
Date2017-04-12 01:09 -0700
SubjectTim Hentlass - Real Time Forth ( for F-PC ) - the Forth Bookshelf has been extended
Message-ID<e06e5635-3074-4fa7-aff6-e20b5c80f869@googlegroups.com>
Another Gem made available for people who are interested.  
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Real-Time-Forth-Tim-Hendtlass-ebook/dp/B06Y6FYPN1/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1491977288&sr=8-1&keywords=kindle+Store+real+time+Forth

Tim Hendtlass, the author of Real Time Forth, obtained a PhD in Ionospheric Physics in 1974 working at Massey University, New Zealand, and then worked at RMIT and Swinburne University of Technology, both in Melbourne, Australia where he currently resides.
Discovered Forth in 1979 and used it as his primary programming language until the mid-1980’s. His first AI applications were written in Forth and he earned notoriety by teaching introductory digital electronics by taking his students through the design of a stack oriented processor with Forth as its native language.
This design operated successfully when realised using an FPGA and was demonstrated to the students at the end of the subject. Still uses Forth today as the problem definition language in his population based optimisation work. His current Forth engine (written in Pascal) has a data stack that can concurrently hold integers, floats, strings, arrays and matrices.
The book Real Time Forth was written in 1993, and contains a vast amount of Forth code to go through and understand; and this gem has now been saved and made available as part of the Forth Bookshelf at https://www.amazon.co.uk/Juergen-Pintaske/e/B00N8HVEZM .
The book is based on F-PC, a DOS based Forth, which was very much in use at the time. Additional information from the Preamble: This book has been written to provide information about using a computer with the real world so the two may work cooperatively together. In many situations in which a computer is used, the main constraint is getting the job done, usually as quickly as possible. The exact time each part of the task takes is not of great significance and the job proceeds with timing to suit, and dictated by, the computer.

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#57123

FromMark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com>
Date2017-04-12 01:31 -0700
Message-ID<b3b88b51-e732-43a5-a1f6-9127a2e39e6a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#57119
On Wednesday, 12 April 2017 09:09:36 UTC+1, JUERGEN  wrote:
> Another Gem made available for people who are interested.  
> https://www.amazon.co.uk/Real-Time-Forth-Tim-Hendtlass-ebook/dp/B06Y6FYPN1/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1491977288&sr=8-1&keywords=kindle+Store+real+time+Forth
> 

It's not showing up at the link you provided. I'll try again later.
It might take a little time if you've only just added it.

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#57128

FromJUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com>
Date2017-04-12 01:47 -0700
Message-ID<f85b1b94-acb5-495d-92ea-89913024e02a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#57123
On Wednesday, April 12, 2017 at 9:31:16 AM UTC+1, Mark Wills wrote:
> On Wednesday, 12 April 2017 09:09:36 UTC+1, JUERGEN  wrote:
> > Another Gem made available for people who are interested.  
> > https://www.amazon.co.uk/Real-Time-Forth-Tim-Hendtlass-ebook/dp/B06Y6FYPN1/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1491977288&sr=8-1&keywords=kindle+Store+real+time+Forth
> > 
> 
> It's not showing up at the link you provided. I'll try again later.
> It might take a little time if you've only just added it.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B06Y6FYPN1   just looked at it, sorry not clear why

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#57130

FromMark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com>
Date2017-04-12 02:04 -0700
Message-ID<d8f78aa7-295f-4e60-8a20-9fa9b75a5d9d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#57128
On Wednesday, 12 April 2017 09:47:46 UTC+1, JUERGEN  wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 12, 2017 at 9:31:16 AM UTC+1, Mark Wills wrote:
> > On Wednesday, 12 April 2017 09:09:36 UTC+1, JUERGEN  wrote:
> > > Another Gem made available for people who are interested.  
> > > https://www.amazon.co.uk/Real-Time-Forth-Tim-Hendtlass-ebook/dp/B06Y6FYPN1/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1491977288&sr=8-1&keywords=kindle+Store+real+time+Forth
> > > 
> > 
> > It's not showing up at the link you provided. I'll try again later.
> > It might take a little time if you've only just added it.
> 
> https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B06Y6FYPN1   just looked at it, sorry not clear why

Thank you, Juergen.

Just bought the book :-)

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#57197 — Re: Tim Hentlass - Real Time Forth ( for F-PC ) - the ForthBookshelf has been extended

From"HAA" <someone@microsoft.com>
Date2017-04-13 11:00 +1000
SubjectRe: Tim Hentlass - Real Time Forth ( for F-PC ) - the ForthBookshelf has been extended
Message-ID<ocmikt$dd$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#57130
Mark Wills wrote:
> On Wednesday, 12 April 2017 09:47:46 UTC+1, JUERGEN  wrote:
> > On Wednesday, April 12, 2017 at 9:31:16 AM UTC+1, Mark Wills wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, 12 April 2017 09:09:36 UTC+1, JUERGEN  wrote:
> > > > Another Gem made available for people who are interested.
> > > >
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Real-Time-Forth-Tim-Hendtlass-ebook/dp/B06Y6FYPN1/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qi
d=1491977288&sr=8-1&keywords=kindle+Store+real+time+Forth
> > > >
> > >
> > > It's not showing up at the link you provided. I'll try again later.
> > > It might take a little time if you've only just added it.
> >
> > https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B06Y6FYPN1   just looked at it, sorry not clear why
>
> Thank you, Juergen.
>
> Just bought the book :-)

Original postscript and pdf versions available from Taygeta Forth archive
& mirrors.  Some chapters appeared as articles in FD.

ftp://ftp.taygeta.com/pub/Forth/Literature/

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#57205 — Re: Tim Hentlass - Real Time Forth ( for F-PC ) - the ForthBookshelf has been extended

Fromrickman <gnuarm@gmail.com>
Date2017-04-12 23:13 -0400
SubjectRe: Tim Hentlass - Real Time Forth ( for F-PC ) - the ForthBookshelf has been extended
Message-ID<ocmq64$od6$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#57197
On 4/12/2017 9:00 PM, HAA wrote:
> Mark Wills wrote:
>> On Wednesday, 12 April 2017 09:47:46 UTC+1, JUERGEN  wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, April 12, 2017 at 9:31:16 AM UTC+1, Mark Wills wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, 12 April 2017 09:09:36 UTC+1, JUERGEN  wrote:
>>>>> Another Gem made available for people who are interested.
>>>>>
> https://www.amazon.co.uk/Real-Time-Forth-Tim-Hendtlass-ebook/dp/B06Y6FYPN1/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qi
> d=1491977288&sr=8-1&keywords=kindle+Store+real+time+Forth
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's not showing up at the link you provided. I'll try again later.
>>>> It might take a little time if you've only just added it.
>>>
>>> https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B06Y6FYPN1   just looked at it, sorry not clear why
>>
>> Thank you, Juergen.
>>
>> Just bought the book :-)
>
> Original postscript and pdf versions available from Taygeta Forth archive
> & mirrors.  Some chapters appeared as articles in FD.
>
> ftp://ftp.taygeta.com/pub/Forth/Literature/

Seems to require a login.

-- 

Rick C

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#57207 — Re: Tim Hentlass - Real Time Forth ( for F-PC ) - the ForthBookshelfhas been extended

From"HAA" <someone@microsoft.com>
Date2017-04-13 13:26 +1000
SubjectRe: Tim Hentlass - Real Time Forth ( for F-PC ) - the ForthBookshelfhas been extended
Message-ID<ocmr6m$c04$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#57205
rickman wrote:
> On 4/12/2017 9:00 PM, HAA wrote:
> > Mark Wills wrote:
> >> On Wednesday, 12 April 2017 09:47:46 UTC+1, JUERGEN  wrote:
> >>> On Wednesday, April 12, 2017 at 9:31:16 AM UTC+1, Mark Wills wrote:
> >>>> On Wednesday, 12 April 2017 09:09:36 UTC+1, JUERGEN  wrote:
> >>>>> Another Gem made available for people who are interested.
> >>>>>
> >
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Real-Time-Forth-Tim-Hendtlass-ebook/dp/B06Y6FYPN1/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qi
> > d=1491977288&sr=8-1&keywords=kindle+Store+real+time+Forth
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> It's not showing up at the link you provided. I'll try again later.
> >>>> It might take a little time if you've only just added it.
> >>>
> >>> https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B06Y6FYPN1   just looked at it, sorry not clear why
> >>
> >> Thank you, Juergen.
> >>
> >> Just bought the book :-)
> >
> > Original postscript and pdf versions available from Taygeta Forth archive
> > & mirrors.  Some chapters appeared as articles in FD.
> >
> > ftp://ftp.taygeta.com/pub/Forth/Literature/
>
> Seems to require a login.

The archive has always been public.  Works directly with my web browser
and ftp using 'anonymous'.  Otherwise try googling 'rtfv5.pdf'

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#57209 — Re: Tim Hentlass - Real Time Forth ( for F-PC ) - the ForthBookshelfhas been extended

FromPaul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid>
Date2017-04-12 21:17 -0700
SubjectRe: Tim Hentlass - Real Time Forth ( for F-PC ) - the ForthBookshelfhas been extended
Message-ID<87vaq9hrgh.fsf@nightsong.com>
In reply to#57207
"HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> writes:
> The archive has always been public.  Works directly with my web browser
> and ftp using 'anonymous'.  Otherwise try googling 'rtfv5.pdf'

Thanks.  Anonymous login worked and the book looks good.  Nice resource
for us non-Kindle users.

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#57215 — Re: Tim Hentlass - Real Time Forth ( for F-PC ) - the ForthBookshelfhas been extended

Fromrickman <gnuarm@gmail.com>
Date2017-04-13 02:52 -0400
SubjectRe: Tim Hentlass - Real Time Forth ( for F-PC ) - the ForthBookshelfhas been extended
Message-ID<ocn726$mpp$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#57207
On 4/12/2017 11:26 PM, HAA wrote:
> rickman wrote:
>> On 4/12/2017 9:00 PM, HAA wrote:
>>> Mark Wills wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, 12 April 2017 09:47:46 UTC+1, JUERGEN  wrote:
>>>>> On Wednesday, April 12, 2017 at 9:31:16 AM UTC+1, Mark Wills wrote:
>>>>>> On Wednesday, 12 April 2017 09:09:36 UTC+1, JUERGEN  wrote:
>>>>>>> Another Gem made available for people who are interested.
>>>>>>>
>>>
> https://www.amazon.co.uk/Real-Time-Forth-Tim-Hendtlass-ebook/dp/B06Y6FYPN1/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qi
>>> d=1491977288&sr=8-1&keywords=kindle+Store+real+time+Forth
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's not showing up at the link you provided. I'll try again later.
>>>>>> It might take a little time if you've only just added it.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B06Y6FYPN1   just looked at it, sorry not clear why
>>>>
>>>> Thank you, Juergen.
>>>>
>>>> Just bought the book :-)
>>>
>>> Original postscript and pdf versions available from Taygeta Forth archive
>>> & mirrors.  Some chapters appeared as articles in FD.
>>>
>>> ftp://ftp.taygeta.com/pub/Forth/Literature/
>>
>> Seems to require a login.
>
> The archive has always been public.  Works directly with my web browser
> and ftp using 'anonymous'.  Otherwise try googling 'rtfv5.pdf'

Strange, I can get to the documents with no login now.

-- 

Rick C

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#57211 — Re: Tim Hentlass - Real Time Forth ( for F-PC ) - the ForthBookshelf has been extended

FromCecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com>
Date2017-04-13 00:24 -0500
SubjectRe: Tim Hentlass - Real Time Forth ( for F-PC ) - the ForthBookshelf has been extended
Message-ID<ocn1sv$a3n$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#57205
On 4/12/2017 10:13 PM, rickman wrote:
> On 4/12/2017 9:00 PM, HAA wrote:
>> Mark Wills wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, 12 April 2017 09:47:46 UTC+1, JUERGEN  wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, April 12, 2017 at 9:31:16 AM UTC+1, Mark Wills wrote:
>>>>> On Wednesday, 12 April 2017 09:09:36 UTC+1, JUERGEN  wrote:
>>>>>> Another Gem made available for people who are interested.
>>>>>>
>> https://www.amazon.co.uk/Real-Time-Forth-Tim-Hendtlass-ebook/dp/B06Y6FYPN1/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qi 
>>
>> d=1491977288&sr=8-1&keywords=kindle+Store+real+time+Forth
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It's not showing up at the link you provided. I'll try again later.
>>>>> It might take a little time if you've only just added it.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B06Y6FYPN1   just looked at it, sorry 
>>>> not clear why
>>>
>>> Thank you, Juergen.
>>>
>>> Just bought the book :-)
>>
>> Original postscript and pdf versions available from Taygeta Forth archive
>> & mirrors.  Some chapters appeared as articles in FD.
>>
>> ftp://ftp.taygeta.com/pub/Forth/Literature/
> 
> Seems to require a login.
> 

No problem here, copy and pasted into Chrome browser, no login required.


-- 
Cecil - k5nwa

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#57221

FromJUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com>
Date2017-04-13 02:46 -0700
Message-ID<8b800d6a-77e7-4fdc-9473-cc7dab27fec0@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#57130
On Wednesday, April 12, 2017 at 10:04:30 AM UTC+1, Mark Wills wrote:
> On Wednesday, 12 April 2017 09:47:46 UTC+1, JUERGEN  wrote:
> > On Wednesday, April 12, 2017 at 9:31:16 AM UTC+1, Mark Wills wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, 12 April 2017 09:09:36 UTC+1, JUERGEN  wrote:
> > > > Another Gem made available for people who are interested.  
> > > > https://www.amazon.co.uk/Real-Time-Forth-Tim-Hendtlass-ebook/dp/B06Y6FYPN1/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1491977288&sr=8-1&keywords=kindle+Store+real+time+Forth
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > It's not showing up at the link you provided. I'll try again later.
> > > It might take a little time if you've only just added it.
> > 
> > https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B06Y6FYPN1   just looked at it, sorry not clear why
> 
> Thank you, Juergen.
> 
> Just bought the book :-)

Thanks Mark, just to add to what has been said later: This PDF was freely available for more than 20 years now - but it seems to be relatively unknown. This pdf was my starting point as well. The page numbers in the eBook of the Contents and as well in the Index are intentionally exactly left the same as in the original, so you can read on the Tablet/PC, and if you want to know more or scribble - use the PDF. Either way Tim get's a lot more recognition now as both are available. And I wonder how much of the code can still be used or updated to existing Forths.

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