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clusterFORTH by Greg Bailey, Dean Sanderson and Elizabeth D. Rather

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  clusterFORTH by Greg Bailey, Dean Sanderson and Elizabeth D. Rather mfanyikazi@gmail.com - 2015-07-11 04:54 -0700
    Re: clusterFORTH by Greg Bailey, Dean Sanderson and Elizabeth D. Rather Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-15 20:34 -0700
      Re: clusterFORTH by Greg Bailey, Dean Sanderson and Elizabeth D. Rather "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-07-15 18:47 -1000
        Re: clusterFORTH by Greg Bailey, Dean Sanderson and Elizabeth D. Rather mfanyikazi@gmail.com - 2015-07-15 23:01 -0700
        Re: clusterFORTH by Greg Bailey, Dean Sanderson and Elizabeth D. Rather Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 01:08 -0700
          Re: clusterFORTH by Greg Bailey, Dean Sanderson and Elizabeth D. Rather Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 01:52 -0700

#40521 — clusterFORTH by Greg Bailey, Dean Sanderson and Elizabeth D. Rather

Frommfanyikazi@gmail.com
Date2015-07-11 04:54 -0700
SubjectclusterFORTH by Greg Bailey, Dean Sanderson and Elizabeth D. Rather
Message-ID<22d3799e-c940-4820-8370-c8f74a64373b@googlegroups.com>
Does anyone have this document?

clusterFORTH, A High-Level Network Protocol, by Greg Bailey, Dean
Sanderson and Elizabeth D. Rather

Many thanks for your assist :)

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#40672

FromPaul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid>
Date2015-07-15 20:34 -0700
Message-ID<87twt4zsfa.fsf@jester.gateway.sonic.net>
In reply to#40521
mfanyikazi@gmail.com writes:
> clusterFORTH, A High-Level Network Protocol, by Greg Bailey, Dean
> Sanderson and Elizabeth D. Rather

This came up a while back and someone claimed that it actually referred
to Elizabeth's JFAR paper about the Saudi airport.

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#40673

From"Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com>
Date2015-07-15 18:47 -1000
Message-ID<gJmdndqQtN75qjrInZ2dnUU7-UWdnZ2d@supernews.com>
In reply to#40672
On 7/15/15 5:34 PM, Paul Rubin wrote:
> mfanyikazi@gmail.com writes:
>> clusterFORTH, A High-Level Network Protocol, by Greg Bailey, Dean
>> Sanderson and Elizabeth D. Rather
>
> This came up a while back and someone claimed that it actually referred
> to Elizabeth's JFAR paper about the Saudi airport.
>

Yes, it went into more detail about the actual network protocol, whereas 
the other paper was an overview. I have looked, but I haven't been able 
to find a copy that isn't at a "cob-web" site.

I'm not sure it's really relevant nowadays, though, because anyone would 
use TCP-IP.

Cheers,
Elizabeth

-- 
==================================================
Elizabeth D. Rather   (US & Canada)   800-55-FORTH
FORTH Inc.                         +1 310.999.6784
5959 West Century Blvd. Suite 700
Los Angeles, CA 90045
http://www.forth.com

"Forth-based products and Services for real-time
applications since 1973."
==================================================

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#40674

Frommfanyikazi@gmail.com
Date2015-07-15 23:01 -0700
Message-ID<def422f6-74b2-4992-81d0-9bcb698701e1@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#40673
On Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 7:47:34 AM UTC+3, Elizabeth D. Rather wrote:
> On 7/15/15 5:34 PM, Paul Rubin wrote:
> > mfanyikazi@gmail.com writes:
> >> clusterFORTH, A High-Level Network Protocol, by Greg Bailey, Dean
> >> Sanderson and Elizabeth D. Rather
> >
> > This came up a while back and someone claimed that it actually referred
> > to Elizabeth's JFAR paper about the Saudi airport.
> >
> 
> Yes, it went into more detail about the actual network protocol, whereas 
> the other paper was an overview. I have looked, but I haven't been able 
> to find a copy that isn't at a "cob-web" site.
> 
> I'm not sure it's really relevant nowadays, though, because anyone would 
> use TCP-IP.
> 
> Cheers,
> Elizabeth
> 
> -- 
> ==================================================
> Elizabeth D. Rather   (US & Canada)   800-55-FORTH
> FORTH Inc.                         +1 310.999.6784
> 5959 West Century Blvd. Suite 700
> Los Angeles, CA 90045
> http://www.forth.com
> 
> "Forth-based products and Services for real-time
> applications since 1973."
> ==================================================

So if you don't mind my asking , which paper is more complete?  The JFAR reference or the original?

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#40676

FromMark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com>
Date2015-07-16 01:08 -0700
Message-ID<6185f402-904d-4a3f-ac2b-36b430a9b808@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#40673
On Thursday, 16 July 2015 05:47:34 UTC+1, Elizabeth D. Rather  wrote:
> On 7/15/15 5:34 PM, Paul Rubin wrote:
> > mfanyikazi@gmail.com writes:
> >> clusterFORTH, A High-Level Network Protocol, by Greg Bailey, Dean
> >> Sanderson and Elizabeth D. Rather
> >
> > This came up a while back and someone claimed that it actually referred
> > to Elizabeth's JFAR paper about the Saudi airport.
> >
> 
> Yes, it went into more detail about the actual network protocol, whereas 
> the other paper was an overview. I have looked, but I haven't been able 
> to find a copy that isn't at a "cob-web" site.
> 
> I'm not sure it's really relevant nowadays, though, because anyone would 
> use TCP-IP.
> 
> Cheers,
> Elizabeth
> 
> -- 
> ==================================================
> Elizabeth D. Rather   (US & Canada)   800-55-FORTH
> FORTH Inc.                         +1 310.999.6784
> 5959 West Century Blvd. Suite 700
> Los Angeles, CA 90045
> http://www.forth.com
> 
> "Forth-based products and Services for real-time
> applications since 1973."
> ==================================================

I'd really like to see this paper. From what I had understood
from the Saudi paper (IIRC) the clusterForth protocol was more
powerful, and more forthy than TCP/IP because it integrated
nodes at the Forth level. I could be thinking of something else,
but that's what I think was going on.

It would be lovely to find it. A lot of the JFAR papers are 
online at MPE:

http://soton.mpeforth.com/flag/jfar/

The papers were made available by Forth, Inc. However, reading
the abstract summaries, it seems not all the papers are present.

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#40677

FromMark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com>
Date2015-07-16 01:52 -0700
Message-ID<a6940917-7461-4e2c-a7f5-c61f1128fd63@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#40676
On Thursday, 16 July 2015 09:08:09 UTC+1, Mark Wills  wrote:
> On Thursday, 16 July 2015 05:47:34 UTC+1, Elizabeth D. Rather  wrote:
> > On 7/15/15 5:34 PM, Paul Rubin wrote:
> > > mfanyikazi@gmail.com writes:
> > >> clusterFORTH, A High-Level Network Protocol, by Greg Bailey, Dean
> > >> Sanderson and Elizabeth D. Rather
> > >
> > > This came up a while back and someone claimed that it actually referred
> > > to Elizabeth's JFAR paper about the Saudi airport.
> > >
> > 
> > Yes, it went into more detail about the actual network protocol, whereas 
> > the other paper was an overview. I have looked, but I haven't been able 
> > to find a copy that isn't at a "cob-web" site.
> > 
> > I'm not sure it's really relevant nowadays, though, because anyone would 
> > use TCP-IP.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Elizabeth
> > 
> > -- 
> > ==================================================
> > Elizabeth D. Rather   (US & Canada)   800-55-FORTH
> > FORTH Inc.                         +1 310.999.6784
> > 5959 West Century Blvd. Suite 700
> > Los Angeles, CA 90045
> > http://www.forth.com
> > 
> > "Forth-based products and Services for real-time
> > applications since 1973."
> > ==================================================
> 
> I'd really like to see this paper. From what I had understood
> from the Saudi paper (IIRC) the clusterForth protocol was more
> powerful, and more forthy than TCP/IP because it integrated
> nodes at the Forth level. I could be thinking of something else,
> but that's what I think was going on.
> 
> It would be lovely to find it. A lot of the JFAR papers are 
> online at MPE:
> 
> http://soton.mpeforth.com/flag/jfar/
> 
> The papers were made available by Forth, Inc. However, reading
> the abstract summaries, it seems not all the papers are present.

The JFAR papers are also available on Forth, Incs website:

http://www.forth.com/archive/jfar/index.html

Elizabeth's paper about the Saudi Airport project is there.
http://www.forth.com/archive/jfar/vol3/no2/article4.pdf

It contains some useful insight into the clusterFORTH protocol.

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