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BBC MicroBit has arrived - which Forth in Python is recommended for now?

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#49844

From	rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com>
Date	2016-08-07 12:30 -0400
Message-ID	<no7nmm$kkp$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#49837

On 8/7/2016 6:39 AM, JUERGEN wrote:
> On Saturday, August 6, 2016 at 6:32:35 PM UTC+1, rickman wrote:
>> On 8/6/2016 7:13 AM, JUERGEN wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, April 6, 2016 at 8:14:43 AM UTC+1, JUERGEN wrote:
>>>> A MicroBit has arrived on my desk, but no Forth yet available. Until a real Forth is running, and as Python is a supported language - is there a Forth out there in Python I could load and run? Speed is not the issue for now nor is completeness. I mainly want to control the IOs, and the 25 LEDs are just enough to display ok, or a 4 Bit INPUT value, a 4 bit OUTPUT value - and 3 levels of Stack ...
>>>> Any help appreciated. http://microbit-micropython.readthedocs.org/en/latest/.
>>>> Picture and video you can find at https://www.facebook.com/groups/PROGRAMMINGFORTH/?fref=ts. Has anybody re-written JonesForth in Python?
>>>
>>> 2 ARMs and a MicroBit https://www.techwillsaveus.com/shop/microbit-bundle/?utm_source=Technology+Will+Save+Us+Newsletter&utm_campaign=f559a7a865-Micro%3Abit+mb+lovers&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_a0c875b17f-f559a7a865-346130093
>>> £15 to £25 depending on Kit contents - has anybody bought one yet and is running Mecrisp Forth?
>>
>> I'm seeing much higher prices in the US, $50 and $75 for the "BBC
>> micro:bit Activity Kit" and the "BBC micro:bit" respectively.  Any idea
>> why the difference?  Exactly which products are you seeing?
>>
>> --
>>
>> Rick C
>
> look at the shipping page: https://www.techwillsaveus.com/home/shipping/

That only shows the shipping costs.  I don't see the products you seem 
to be seeing.

The UK Pound is currently around $1.30 while not too long ago it was 
more like $1.50.  But even at $1.50 the £25 price you mention would only 
be $37.50.

What products do you see for £15 to £25?  Can you just tell me the names 
so I can see if they are the same ones I see?

-- 

Rick C

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#49906

From	JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com>
Date	2016-08-09 08:20 -0700
Message-ID	<2567deb8-b318-4f30-8490-8665323a67b0@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#49844

On Sunday, August 7, 2016 at 5:30:16 PM UTC+1, rickman wrote:
> On 8/7/2016 6:39 AM, JUERGEN wrote:
> > On Saturday, August 6, 2016 at 6:32:35 PM UTC+1, rickman wrote:
> >> On 8/6/2016 7:13 AM, JUERGEN wrote:
> >>> On Wednesday, April 6, 2016 at 8:14:43 AM UTC+1, JUERGEN wrote:
> >>>> A MicroBit has arrived on my desk, but no Forth yet available. Until a real Forth is running, and as Python is a supported language - is there a Forth out there in Python I could load and run? Speed is not the issue for now nor is completeness. I mainly want to control the IOs, and the 25 LEDs are just enough to display ok, or a 4 Bit INPUT value, a 4 bit OUTPUT value - and 3 levels of Stack ...
> >>>> Any help appreciated. http://microbit-micropython.readthedocs.org/en/latest/.
> >>>> Picture and video you can find at https://www.facebook.com/groups/PROGRAMMINGFORTH/?fref=ts. Has anybody re-written JonesForth in Python?
> >>>
> >>> 2 ARMs and a MicroBit https://www.techwillsaveus.com/shop/microbit-bundle/?utm_source=Technology+Will+Save+Us+Newsletter&utm_campaign=f559a7a865-Micro%3Abit+mb+lovers&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_a0c875b17f-f559a7a865-346130093
> >>> £15 to £25 depending on Kit contents - has anybody bought one yet and is running Mecrisp Forth?
> >>
> >> I'm seeing much higher prices in the US, $50 and $75 for the "BBC
> >> micro:bit Activity Kit" and the "BBC micro:bit" respectively.  Any idea
> >> why the difference?  Exactly which products are you seeing?
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Rick C
> >
> > look at the shipping page: https://www.techwillsaveus.com/home/shipping/
> 
> That only shows the shipping costs.  I don't see the products you seem 
> to be seeing.
> 
> The UK Pound is currently around $1.30 while not too long ago it was 
> more like $1.50.  But even at $1.50 the £25 price you mention would only 
> be $37.50.
> 
> What products do you see for £15 to £25?  Can you just tell me the names 
> so I can see if they are the same ones I see?
> 
> -- 
> 
> Rick C

£25 for the kit at https://www.techwillsaveus.com/shop/microbit-bundle/?utm_source=Technology+Will+Save+Us+Newsletter&utm_campaign=f559a7a865-Micro%3Abit+mb+lovers&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_a0c875b17f-f559a7a865-346130093
The ultimate pack contains

    BBC micro:bit
    20× electronic components to build projects and activities
    USB cable to connect it to your laptop
    Battery holder to make it mobile
    No other tools required

and
£15 at https://www.techwillsaveus.com/shop/microbit/ just the MicroBit; the USB cable you probably have and use it on your mobile. I actually used 5 countersunk screws and wires to connect it to a solderless breadboard

Shipping at https://www.techwillsaveus.com/home/shipping/
US
US shipping
FREE Standard Delivery on all orders over $50
US Standard Delivery – 3 to 7 days – $5.00 
Did this help and you can see it now - 3 Microbits or kits and shipment is free

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#49909

From	rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com>
Date	2016-08-09 13:52 -0400
Message-ID	<nod58j$7vj$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#49906

On 8/9/2016 11:20 AM, JUERGEN wrote:
> On Sunday, August 7, 2016 at 5:30:16 PM UTC+1, rickman wrote:
>> On 8/7/2016 6:39 AM, JUERGEN wrote:
>>> On Saturday, August 6, 2016 at 6:32:35 PM UTC+1, rickman wrote:
>>>> On 8/6/2016 7:13 AM, JUERGEN wrote:
>>>>> On Wednesday, April 6, 2016 at 8:14:43 AM UTC+1, JUERGEN wrote:
>>>>>> A MicroBit has arrived on my desk, but no Forth yet available. Until a real Forth is running, and as Python is a supported language - is there a Forth out there in Python I could load and run? Speed is not the issue for now nor is completeness. I mainly want to control the IOs, and the 25 LEDs are just enough to display ok, or a 4 Bit INPUT value, a 4 bit OUTPUT value - and 3 levels of Stack ...
>>>>>> Any help appreciated. http://microbit-micropython.readthedocs.org/en/latest/.
>>>>>> Picture and video you can find at https://www.facebook.com/groups/PROGRAMMINGFORTH/?fref=ts. Has anybody re-written JonesForth in Python?
>>>>>
>>>>> 2 ARMs and a MicroBit https://www.techwillsaveus.com/shop/microbit-bundle/?utm_source=Technology+Will+Save+Us+Newsletter&utm_campaign=f559a7a865-Micro%3Abit+mb+lovers&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_a0c875b17f-f559a7a865-346130093
>>>>> £15 to £25 depending on Kit contents - has anybody bought one yet and is running Mecrisp Forth?
>>>>
>>>> I'm seeing much higher prices in the US, $50 and $75 for the "BBC
>>>> micro:bit Activity Kit" and the "BBC micro:bit" respectively.  Any idea
>>>> why the difference?  Exactly which products are you seeing?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Rick C
>>>
>>> look at the shipping page: https://www.techwillsaveus.com/home/shipping/
>>
>> That only shows the shipping costs.  I don't see the products you seem
>> to be seeing.
>>
>> The UK Pound is currently around $1.30 while not too long ago it was
>> more like $1.50.  But even at $1.50 the £25 price you mention would only
>> be $37.50.
>>
>> What products do you see for £15 to £25?  Can you just tell me the names
>> so I can see if they are the same ones I see?
>>
>> --
>>
>> Rick C
>
> £25 for the kit at https://www.techwillsaveus.com/shop/microbit-bundle/?utm_source=Technology+Will+Save+Us+Newsletter&utm_campaign=f559a7a865-Micro%3Abit+mb+lovers&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_a0c875b17f-f559a7a865-346130093
> The ultimate pack contains
>
>     BBC micro:bit
>     20× electronic components to build projects and activities
>     USB cable to connect it to your laptop
>     Battery holder to make it mobile
>     No other tools required
>
> and
> £15 at https://www.techwillsaveus.com/shop/microbit/ just the MicroBit; the USB cable you probably have and use it on your mobile. I actually used 5 countersunk screws and wires to connect it to a solderless breadboard
>
> Shipping at https://www.techwillsaveus.com/home/shipping/
> US
> US shipping
> FREE Standard Delivery on all orders over $50
> US Standard Delivery – 3 to 7 days – $5.00
> Did this help and you can see it now - 3 Microbits or kits and shipment is free

Yes, something is wrong with their web site I suspect.  The prices for 
the units you provide links to are $50 US and $75 US with the Microbit 
board being the $75 item.  I expect they are giving US vs. UK pricing 
based on my IP address.

I think $50 for the kit is not a bad price.  $75 for the board is pretty 
high.  If the mistake they made was switching the prices, the £15 board 
would be $50 and the £25 kit would be $75.  This is still pretty high 
with a 3:1 exchange rate which is more than twice the going rate. 
Something has gone awry with their currency conversion and/or web site 
creation.

-- 

Rick C

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#49947

From	JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com>
Date	2016-08-11 03:41 -0700
Message-ID	<670ad00a-590e-43b3-98e9-22b7351f5c37@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#49909

On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 6:52:21 PM UTC+1, rickman wrote:
> On 8/9/2016 11:20 AM, JUERGEN wrote:
> > On Sunday, August 7, 2016 at 5:30:16 PM UTC+1, rickman wrote:
> >> On 8/7/2016 6:39 AM, JUERGEN wrote:
> >>> On Saturday, August 6, 2016 at 6:32:35 PM UTC+1, rickman wrote:
> >>>> On 8/6/2016 7:13 AM, JUERGEN wrote:
> >>>>> On Wednesday, April 6, 2016 at 8:14:43 AM UTC+1, JUERGEN wrote:
> >>>>>> A MicroBit has arrived on my desk, but no Forth yet available. Until a real Forth is running, and as Python is a supported language - is there a Forth out there in Python I could load and run? Speed is not the issue for now nor is completeness. I mainly want to control the IOs, and the 25 LEDs are just enough to display ok, or a 4 Bit INPUT value, a 4 bit OUTPUT value - and 3 levels of Stack ...
> >>>>>> Any help appreciated. http://microbit-micropython.readthedocs.org/en/latest/.
> >>>>>> Picture and video you can find at https://www.facebook.com/groups/PROGRAMMINGFORTH/?fref=ts. Has anybody re-written JonesForth in Python?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2 ARMs and a MicroBit https://www.techwillsaveus.com/shop/microbit-bundle/?utm_source=Technology+Will+Save+Us+Newsletter&utm_campaign=f559a7a865-Micro%3Abit+mb+lovers&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_a0c875b17f-f559a7a865-346130093
> >>>>> £15 to £25 depending on Kit contents - has anybody bought one yet and is running Mecrisp Forth?
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm seeing much higher prices in the US, $50 and $75 for the "BBC
> >>>> micro:bit Activity Kit" and the "BBC micro:bit" respectively.  Any idea
> >>>> why the difference?  Exactly which products are you seeing?
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>>
> >>>> Rick C
> >>>
> >>> look at the shipping page: https://www.techwillsaveus.com/home/shipping/
> >>
> >> That only shows the shipping costs.  I don't see the products you seem
> >> to be seeing.
> >>
> >> The UK Pound is currently around $1.30 while not too long ago it was
> >> more like $1.50.  But even at $1.50 the £25 price you mention would only
> >> be $37.50.
> >>
> >> What products do you see for £15 to £25?  Can you just tell me the names
> >> so I can see if they are the same ones I see?
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Rick C
> >
> > £25 for the kit at https://www.techwillsaveus.com/shop/microbit-bundle/?utm_source=Technology+Will+Save+Us+Newsletter&utm_campaign=f559a7a865-Micro%3Abit+mb+lovers&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_a0c875b17f-f559a7a865-346130093
> > The ultimate pack contains
> >
> >     BBC micro:bit
> >     20× electronic components to build projects and activities
> >     USB cable to connect it to your laptop
> >     Battery holder to make it mobile
> >     No other tools required
> >
> > and
> > £15 at https://www.techwillsaveus.com/shop/microbit/ just the MicroBit; the USB cable you probably have and use it on your mobile. I actually used 5 countersunk screws and wires to connect it to a solderless breadboard
> >
> > Shipping at https://www.techwillsaveus.com/home/shipping/
> > US
> > US shipping
> > FREE Standard Delivery on all orders over $50
> > US Standard Delivery – 3 to 7 days – $5.00
> > Did this help and you can see it now - 3 Microbits or kits and shipment is free
> 
> Yes, something is wrong with their web site I suspect.  The prices for 
> the units you provide links to are $50 US and $75 US with the Microbit 
> board being the $75 item.  I expect they are giving US vs. UK pricing 
> based on my IP address.
> 
> I think $50 for the kit is not a bad price.  $75 for the board is pretty 
> high.  If the mistake they made was switching the prices, the £15 board 
> would be $50 and the £25 kit would be $75.  This is still pretty high 
> with a 3:1 exchange rate which is more than twice the going rate. 
> Something has gone awry with their currency conversion and/or web site 
> creation.
> 
> -- 
> 
> Rick C

Well, there are the proven old methods if you really want one: call or email
https://www.facebook.com/techwillsaveus/app/100265896690345/
and the relevant data from there: 
Founded on January 1, 2012
Short Description:
We create DIY gadget kits that encourage everyone to make, play code and invent with technology.
Mission:
Technology Will Save Us is one of the UK's most exciting design-led, technology start-ups focused on learning. We are on a m... See More
Phone: 020 3004 8843
Email: info@techwillsaveus.com
Website: http://www.techwillsaveus.com
I do not think there is anything more I can do for you

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#49961

From	rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com>
Date	2016-08-11 17:56 -0400
Message-ID	<noisb8$vup$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#49947

On 8/11/2016 6:41 AM, JUERGEN wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 6:52:21 PM UTC+1, rickman wrote:
>> On 8/9/2016 11:20 AM, JUERGEN wrote:
>>> On Sunday, August 7, 2016 at 5:30:16 PM UTC+1, rickman wrote:
>>>> On 8/7/2016 6:39 AM, JUERGEN wrote:
>>>>> On Saturday, August 6, 2016 at 6:32:35 PM UTC+1, rickman wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/6/2016 7:13 AM, JUERGEN wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, April 6, 2016 at 8:14:43 AM UTC+1, JUERGEN wrote:
>>>>>>>> A MicroBit has arrived on my desk, but no Forth yet available. Until a real Forth is running, and as Python is a supported language - is there a Forth out there in Python I could load and run? Speed is not the issue for now nor is completeness. I mainly want to control the IOs, and the 25 LEDs are just enough to display ok, or a 4 Bit INPUT value, a 4 bit OUTPUT value - and 3 levels of Stack ...
>>>>>>>> Any help appreciated. http://microbit-micropython.readthedocs.org/en/latest/.
>>>>>>>> Picture and video you can find at https://www.facebook.com/groups/PROGRAMMINGFORTH/?fref=ts. Has anybody re-written JonesForth in Python?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2 ARMs and a MicroBit https://www.techwillsaveus.com/shop/microbit-bundle/?utm_source=Technology+Will+Save+Us+Newsletter&utm_campaign=f559a7a865-Micro%3Abit+mb+lovers&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_a0c875b17f-f559a7a865-346130093
>>>>>>> £15 to £25 depending on Kit contents - has anybody bought one yet and is running Mecrisp Forth?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm seeing much higher prices in the US, $50 and $75 for the "BBC
>>>>>> micro:bit Activity Kit" and the "BBC micro:bit" respectively.  Any idea
>>>>>> why the difference?  Exactly which products are you seeing?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rick C
>>>>>
>>>>> look at the shipping page: https://www.techwillsaveus.com/home/shipping/
>>>>
>>>> That only shows the shipping costs.  I don't see the products you seem
>>>> to be seeing.
>>>>
>>>> The UK Pound is currently around $1.30 while not too long ago it was
>>>> more like $1.50.  But even at $1.50 the £25 price you mention would only
>>>> be $37.50.
>>>>
>>>> What products do you see for £15 to £25?  Can you just tell me the names
>>>> so I can see if they are the same ones I see?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Rick C
>>>
>>> £25 for the kit at https://www.techwillsaveus.com/shop/microbit-bundle/?utm_source=Technology+Will+Save+Us+Newsletter&utm_campaign=f559a7a865-Micro%3Abit+mb+lovers&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_a0c875b17f-f559a7a865-346130093
>>> The ultimate pack contains
>>>
>>>     BBC micro:bit
>>>     20× electronic components to build projects and activities
>>>     USB cable to connect it to your laptop
>>>     Battery holder to make it mobile
>>>     No other tools required
>>>
>>> and
>>> £15 at https://www.techwillsaveus.com/shop/microbit/ just the MicroBit; the USB cable you probably have and use it on your mobile. I actually used 5 countersunk screws and wires to connect it to a solderless breadboard
>>>
>>> Shipping at https://www.techwillsaveus.com/home/shipping/
>>> US
>>> US shipping
>>> FREE Standard Delivery on all orders over $50
>>> US Standard Delivery – 3 to 7 days – $5.00
>>> Did this help and you can see it now - 3 Microbits or kits and shipment is free
>>
>> Yes, something is wrong with their web site I suspect.  The prices for
>> the units you provide links to are $50 US and $75 US with the Microbit
>> board being the $75 item.  I expect they are giving US vs. UK pricing
>> based on my IP address.
>>
>> I think $50 for the kit is not a bad price.  $75 for the board is pretty
>> high.  If the mistake they made was switching the prices, the £15 board
>> would be $50 and the £25 kit would be $75.  This is still pretty high
>> with a 3:1 exchange rate which is more than twice the going rate.
>> Something has gone awry with their currency conversion and/or web site
>> creation.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Rick C
>
> Well, there are the proven old methods if you really want one: call or email
> https://www.facebook.com/techwillsaveus/app/100265896690345/
> and the relevant data from there:
> Founded on January 1, 2012
> Short Description:
> We create DIY gadget kits that encourage everyone to make, play code and invent with technology.
> Mission:
> Technology Will Save Us is one of the UK's most exciting design-led, technology start-ups focused on learning. We are on a m... See More
> Phone: 020 3004 8843
> Email: info@techwillsaveus.com
> Website: http://www.techwillsaveus.com
> I do not think there is anything more I can do for you

I'm not all that excited by this device to be honest.  It's interesting, 
but it's not being marketed to me.  I'm not in education.

-- 

Rick C

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#49976

From	JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com>
Date	2016-08-11 22:50 -0700
Message-ID	<6e1e92b1-7d67-49ea-9e4e-352efefa4b9a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#49961

On Thursday, August 11, 2016 at 10:57:00 PM UTC+1, rickman wrote:
> On 8/11/2016 6:41 AM, JUERGEN wrote:
> > On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 6:52:21 PM UTC+1, rickman wrote:
> >> On 8/9/2016 11:20 AM, JUERGEN wrote:
> >>> On Sunday, August 7, 2016 at 5:30:16 PM UTC+1, rickman wrote:
> >>>> On 8/7/2016 6:39 AM, JUERGEN wrote:
> >>>>> On Saturday, August 6, 2016 at 6:32:35 PM UTC+1, rickman wrote:
> >>>>>> On 8/6/2016 7:13 AM, JUERGEN wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Wednesday, April 6, 2016 at 8:14:43 AM UTC+1, JUERGEN wrote:
> >>>>>>>> A MicroBit has arrived on my desk, but no Forth yet available. Until a real Forth is running, and as Python is a supported language - is there a Forth out there in Python I could load and run? Speed is not the issue for now nor is completeness. I mainly want to control the IOs, and the 25 LEDs are just enough to display ok, or a 4 Bit INPUT value, a 4 bit OUTPUT value - and 3 levels of Stack ...
> >>>>>>>> Any help appreciated. http://microbit-micropython.readthedocs.org/en/latest/.
> >>>>>>>> Picture and video you can find at https://www.facebook.com/groups/PROGRAMMINGFORTH/?fref=ts. Has anybody re-written JonesForth in Python?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 2 ARMs and a MicroBit https://www.techwillsaveus.com/shop/microbit-bundle/?utm_source=Technology+Will+Save+Us+Newsletter&utm_campaign=f559a7a865-Micro%3Abit+mb+lovers&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_a0c875b17f-f559a7a865-346130093
> >>>>>>> £15 to £25 depending on Kit contents - has anybody bought one yet and is running Mecrisp Forth?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I'm seeing much higher prices in the US, $50 and $75 for the "BBC
> >>>>>> micro:bit Activity Kit" and the "BBC micro:bit" respectively.  Any idea
> >>>>>> why the difference?  Exactly which products are you seeing?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Rick C
> >>>>>
> >>>>> look at the shipping page: https://www.techwillsaveus.com/home/shipping/
> >>>>
> >>>> That only shows the shipping costs.  I don't see the products you seem
> >>>> to be seeing.
> >>>>
> >>>> The UK Pound is currently around $1.30 while not too long ago it was
> >>>> more like $1.50.  But even at $1.50 the £25 price you mention would only
> >>>> be $37.50.
> >>>>
> >>>> What products do you see for £15 to £25?  Can you just tell me the names
> >>>> so I can see if they are the same ones I see?
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>>
> >>>> Rick C
> >>>
> >>> £25 for the kit at https://www.techwillsaveus.com/shop/microbit-bundle/?utm_source=Technology+Will+Save+Us+Newsletter&utm_campaign=f559a7a865-Micro%3Abit+mb+lovers&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_a0c875b17f-f559a7a865-346130093
> >>> The ultimate pack contains
> >>>
> >>>     BBC micro:bit
> >>>     20× electronic components to build projects and activities
> >>>     USB cable to connect it to your laptop
> >>>     Battery holder to make it mobile
> >>>     No other tools required
> >>>
> >>> and
> >>> £15 at https://www.techwillsaveus.com/shop/microbit/ just the MicroBit; the USB cable you probably have and use it on your mobile. I actually used 5 countersunk screws and wires to connect it to a solderless breadboard
> >>>
> >>> Shipping at https://www.techwillsaveus.com/home/shipping/
> >>> US
> >>> US shipping
> >>> FREE Standard Delivery on all orders over $50
> >>> US Standard Delivery – 3 to 7 days – $5.00
> >>> Did this help and you can see it now - 3 Microbits or kits and shipment is free
> >>
> >> Yes, something is wrong with their web site I suspect.  The prices for
> >> the units you provide links to are $50 US and $75 US with the Microbit
> >> board being the $75 item.  I expect they are giving US vs. UK pricing
> >> based on my IP address.
> >>
> >> I think $50 for the kit is not a bad price.  $75 for the board is pretty
> >> high.  If the mistake they made was switching the prices, the £15 board
> >> would be $50 and the £25 kit would be $75.  This is still pretty high
> >> with a 3:1 exchange rate which is more than twice the going rate.
> >> Something has gone awry with their currency conversion and/or web site
> >> creation.
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Rick C
> >
> > Well, there are the proven old methods if you really want one: call or email
> > https://www.facebook.com/techwillsaveus/app/100265896690345/
> > and the relevant data from there:
> > Founded on January 1, 2012
> > Short Description:
> > We create DIY gadget kits that encourage everyone to make, play code and invent with technology.
> > Mission:
> > Technology Will Save Us is one of the UK's most exciting design-led, technology start-ups focused on learning. We are on a m... See More
> > Phone: 020 3004 8843
> > Email: info@techwillsaveus.com
> > Website: http://www.techwillsaveus.com
> > I do not think there is anything more I can do for you
> 
> I'm not all that excited by this device to be honest.  It's interesting, 
> but it's not being marketed to me.  I'm not in education.
> 
> -- 
> 
> Rick C

Why do you waste my time then - frustrating. All the indications where yes I am interested and now this

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#49977

From	Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid>
Date	2016-08-11 23:13 -0700
Message-ID	<87shuay0o0.fsf@jester.gateway.pace.com>
In reply to	#49976

JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com> writes:
> Why do you waste my time then - frustrating. All the indications where
> yes I am interested and now this

It was more interesting when it was going to cost $5 or something like
that.  Right now it's just another relatively expensive dev board,
compared to other boards with equally or more capable hardware.

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#49992

From	Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com>
Date	2016-08-12 03:43 -0500
Message-ID	<nok26s$8rf$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#49977


On 8/12/2016 1:13 AM, Paul Rubin wrote:
> JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com> writes:
>> Why do you waste my time then - frustrating. All the indications where
>> yes I am interested and now this
>
> It was more interesting when it was going to cost $5 or something like
> that.  Right now it's just another relatively expensive dev board,
> compared to other boards with equally or more capable hardware.
>

A $11 Nucleo is far more powerful for a heck of a lot less money, extra 
components, a couple of dollars will get you there so the whole thing 
will be less than 1/3 the cost. They should have used an already 
existing board rather than their expensive one.
-- 
Cecil - k5nwa

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#49980

From	hughaguilar96@gmail.com
Date	2016-08-11 23:29 -0700
Message-ID	<b42a430b-2f72-4ae9-92bb-c1417f3f509d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#49976

On Thursday, August 11, 2016 at 10:50:49 PM UTC-7, JUERGEN wrote:
> On Thursday, August 11, 2016 at 10:57:00 PM UTC+1, rickman wrote:
> > I'm not all that excited by this device to be honest.  It's interesting, 
> > but it's not being marketed to me.  I'm not in education.
> > 
> > Rick C
> 
> Why do you waste my time then - frustrating. All the indications where yes I am interested and now this

Oh no! Somebody is wasting somebody else's time on the internet! Arg!!! Somebody got his feelings hurt on the internet! Double-Arg!!!

Don't you guys know that the internet is supposed to boost productivity and save time? If you don't believe me, then lets ask the millions of people on Twitter what their opinion is.

!!!MEDICAL ALERT!!! If you roll your eyes every time you read something stupid on the internet, they may get stuck pointing backwards, and all you will see of the world is your own empty head!

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#49981

From	rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com>
Date	2016-08-12 02:48 -0400
Message-ID	<nojrfm$fpv$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#49976

On 8/12/2016 1:50 AM, JUERGEN wrote:
> On Thursday, August 11, 2016 at 10:57:00 PM UTC+1, rickman wrote:
>> On 8/11/2016 6:41 AM, JUERGEN wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 6:52:21 PM UTC+1, rickman wrote:
>>>> On 8/9/2016 11:20 AM, JUERGEN wrote:
>>>>> On Sunday, August 7, 2016 at 5:30:16 PM UTC+1, rickman wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/7/2016 6:39 AM, JUERGEN wrote:
>>>>>>> On Saturday, August 6, 2016 at 6:32:35 PM UTC+1, rickman wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 8/6/2016 7:13 AM, JUERGEN wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, April 6, 2016 at 8:14:43 AM UTC+1, JUERGEN wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> A MicroBit has arrived on my desk, but no Forth yet available. Until a real Forth is running, and as Python is a supported language - is there a Forth out there in Python I could load and run? Speed is not the issue for now nor is completeness. I mainly want to control the IOs, and the 25 LEDs are just enough to display ok, or a 4 Bit INPUT value, a 4 bit OUTPUT value - and 3 levels of Stack ...
>>>>>>>>>> Any help appreciated. http://microbit-micropython.readthedocs.org/en/latest/.
>>>>>>>>>> Picture and video you can find at https://www.facebook.com/groups/PROGRAMMINGFORTH/?fref=ts. Has anybody re-written JonesForth in Python?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2 ARMs and a MicroBit https://www.techwillsaveus.com/shop/microbit-bundle/?utm_source=Technology+Will+Save+Us+Newsletter&utm_campaign=f559a7a865-Micro%3Abit+mb+lovers&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_a0c875b17f-f559a7a865-346130093
>>>>>>>>> £15 to £25 depending on Kit contents - has anybody bought one yet and is running Mecrisp Forth?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm seeing much higher prices in the US, $50 and $75 for the "BBC
>>>>>>>> micro:bit Activity Kit" and the "BBC micro:bit" respectively.  Any idea
>>>>>>>> why the difference?  Exactly which products are you seeing?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Rick C
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> look at the shipping page: https://www.techwillsaveus.com/home/shipping/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That only shows the shipping costs.  I don't see the products you seem
>>>>>> to be seeing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The UK Pound is currently around $1.30 while not too long ago it was
>>>>>> more like $1.50.  But even at $1.50 the £25 price you mention would only
>>>>>> be $37.50.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What products do you see for £15 to £25?  Can you just tell me the names
>>>>>> so I can see if they are the same ones I see?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rick C
>>>>>
>>>>> £25 for the kit at https://www.techwillsaveus.com/shop/microbit-bundle/?utm_source=Technology+Will+Save+Us+Newsletter&utm_campaign=f559a7a865-Micro%3Abit+mb+lovers&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_a0c875b17f-f559a7a865-346130093
>>>>> The ultimate pack contains
>>>>>
>>>>>     BBC micro:bit
>>>>>     20× electronic components to build projects and activities
>>>>>     USB cable to connect it to your laptop
>>>>>     Battery holder to make it mobile
>>>>>     No other tools required
>>>>>
>>>>> and
>>>>> £15 at https://www.techwillsaveus.com/shop/microbit/ just the MicroBit; the USB cable you probably have and use it on your mobile. I actually used 5 countersunk screws and wires to connect it to a solderless breadboard
>>>>>
>>>>> Shipping at https://www.techwillsaveus.com/home/shipping/
>>>>> US
>>>>> US shipping
>>>>> FREE Standard Delivery on all orders over $50
>>>>> US Standard Delivery – 3 to 7 days – $5.00
>>>>> Did this help and you can see it now - 3 Microbits or kits and shipment is free
>>>>
>>>> Yes, something is wrong with their web site I suspect.  The prices for
>>>> the units you provide links to are $50 US and $75 US with the Microbit
>>>> board being the $75 item.  I expect they are giving US vs. UK pricing
>>>> based on my IP address.
>>>>
>>>> I think $50 for the kit is not a bad price.  $75 for the board is pretty
>>>> high.  If the mistake they made was switching the prices, the £15 board
>>>> would be $50 and the £25 kit would be $75.  This is still pretty high
>>>> with a 3:1 exchange rate which is more than twice the going rate.
>>>> Something has gone awry with their currency conversion and/or web site
>>>> creation.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Rick C
>>>
>>> Well, there are the proven old methods if you really want one: call or email
>>> https://www.facebook.com/techwillsaveus/app/100265896690345/
>>> and the relevant data from there:
>>> Founded on January 1, 2012
>>> Short Description:
>>> We create DIY gadget kits that encourage everyone to make, play code and invent with technology.
>>> Mission:
>>> Technology Will Save Us is one of the UK's most exciting design-led, technology start-ups focused on learning. We are on a m... See More
>>> Phone: 020 3004 8843
>>> Email: info@techwillsaveus.com
>>> Website: http://www.techwillsaveus.com
>>> I do not think there is anything more I can do for you
>>
>> I'm not all that excited by this device to be honest.  It's interesting,
>> but it's not being marketed to me.  I'm not in education.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Rick C
>
> Why do you waste my time then - frustrating. All the indications where yes I am interested and now this

If it were a reasonable price so that would be competitive and popular 
then it would be interesting.  But a $75 board with a $2 CPU is not 
interesting.  If that displeases you, take it up with Microbit, not me.

I'm not in education.  I am an engineer and an experimenter.  I like low 
priced stuff that I can use without thinking about the cost.  The 
Microbit is not targeted to that market.  It is targeted to the 
education market where they provide educational materials and charge a 
correspondingly higher price.  I didn't know that until I saw the prices.

-- 

Rick C

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#49994

From	JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com>
Date	2016-08-12 05:17 -0700
Message-ID	<d050a4e8-e3dd-40cc-b406-344103f3c5e4@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#49981

On Friday, August 12, 2016 at 7:48:24 AM UTC+1, rickman wrote:
> On 8/12/2016 1:50 AM, JUERGEN wrote:
> > On Thursday, August 11, 2016 at 10:57:00 PM UTC+1, rickman wrote:
> >> On 8/11/2016 6:41 AM, JUERGEN wrote:
> >>> On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 6:52:21 PM UTC+1, rickman wrote:
> >>>> On 8/9/2016 11:20 AM, JUERGEN wrote:
> >>>>> On Sunday, August 7, 2016 at 5:30:16 PM UTC+1, rickman wrote:
> >>>>>> On 8/7/2016 6:39 AM, JUERGEN wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Saturday, August 6, 2016 at 6:32:35 PM UTC+1, rickman wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On 8/6/2016 7:13 AM, JUERGEN wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, April 6, 2016 at 8:14:43 AM UTC+1, JUERGEN wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> A MicroBit has arrived on my desk, but no Forth yet available. Until a real Forth is running, and as Python is a supported language - is there a Forth out there in Python I could load and run? Speed is not the issue for now nor is completeness. I mainly want to control the IOs, and the 25 LEDs are just enough to display ok, or a 4 Bit INPUT value, a 4 bit OUTPUT value - and 3 levels of Stack ...
> >>>>>>>>>> Any help appreciated. http://microbit-micropython.readthedocs.org/en/latest/.
> >>>>>>>>>> Picture and video you can find at https://www.facebook.com/groups/PROGRAMMINGFORTH/?fref=ts. Has anybody re-written JonesForth in Python?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> 2 ARMs and a MicroBit https://www.techwillsaveus.com/shop/microbit-bundle/?utm_source=Technology+Will+Save+Us+Newsletter&utm_campaign=f559a7a865-Micro%3Abit+mb+lovers&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_a0c875b17f-f559a7a865-346130093
> >>>>>>>>> £15 to £25 depending on Kit contents - has anybody bought one yet and is running Mecrisp Forth?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I'm seeing much higher prices in the US, $50 and $75 for the "BBC
> >>>>>>>> micro:bit Activity Kit" and the "BBC micro:bit" respectively.  Any idea
> >>>>>>>> why the difference?  Exactly which products are you seeing?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Rick C
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> look at the shipping page: https://www.techwillsaveus.com/home/shipping/
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> That only shows the shipping costs.  I don't see the products you seem
> >>>>>> to be seeing.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The UK Pound is currently around $1.30 while not too long ago it was
> >>>>>> more like $1.50.  But even at $1.50 the £25 price you mention would only
> >>>>>> be $37.50.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> What products do you see for £15 to £25?  Can you just tell me the names
> >>>>>> so I can see if they are the same ones I see?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Rick C
> >>>>>
> >>>>> £25 for the kit at https://www.techwillsaveus.com/shop/microbit-bundle/?utm_source=Technology+Will+Save+Us+Newsletter&utm_campaign=f559a7a865-Micro%3Abit+mb+lovers&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_a0c875b17f-f559a7a865-346130093
> >>>>> The ultimate pack contains
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     BBC micro:bit
> >>>>>     20× electronic components to build projects and activities
> >>>>>     USB cable to connect it to your laptop
> >>>>>     Battery holder to make it mobile
> >>>>>     No other tools required
> >>>>>
> >>>>> and
> >>>>> £15 at https://www.techwillsaveus.com/shop/microbit/ just the MicroBit; the USB cable you probably have and use it on your mobile. I actually used 5 countersunk screws and wires to connect it to a solderless breadboard
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Shipping at https://www.techwillsaveus.com/home/shipping/
> >>>>> US
> >>>>> US shipping
> >>>>> FREE Standard Delivery on all orders over $50
> >>>>> US Standard Delivery – 3 to 7 days – $5.00
> >>>>> Did this help and you can see it now - 3 Microbits or kits and shipment is free
> >>>>
> >>>> Yes, something is wrong with their web site I suspect.  The prices for
> >>>> the units you provide links to are $50 US and $75 US with the Microbit
> >>>> board being the $75 item.  I expect they are giving US vs. UK pricing
> >>>> based on my IP address.
> >>>>
> >>>> I think $50 for the kit is not a bad price.  $75 for the board is pretty
> >>>> high.  If the mistake they made was switching the prices, the £15 board
> >>>> would be $50 and the £25 kit would be $75.  This is still pretty high
> >>>> with a 3:1 exchange rate which is more than twice the going rate.
> >>>> Something has gone awry with their currency conversion and/or web site
> >>>> creation.
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>>
> >>>> Rick C
> >>>
> >>> Well, there are the proven old methods if you really want one: call or email
> >>> https://www.facebook.com/techwillsaveus/app/100265896690345/
> >>> and the relevant data from there:
> >>> Founded on January 1, 2012
> >>> Short Description:
> >>> We create DIY gadget kits that encourage everyone to make, play code and invent with technology.
> >>> Mission:
> >>> Technology Will Save Us is one of the UK's most exciting design-led, technology start-ups focused on learning. We are on a m... See More
> >>> Phone: 020 3004 8843
> >>> Email: info@techwillsaveus.com
> >>> Website: http://www.techwillsaveus.com
> >>> I do not think there is anything more I can do for you
> >>
> >> I'm not all that excited by this device to be honest.  It's interesting,
> >> but it's not being marketed to me.  I'm not in education.
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Rick C
> >
> > Why do you waste my time then - frustrating. All the indications where yes I am interested and now this
> 
> If it were a reasonable price so that would be competitive and popular 
> then it would be interesting.  But a $75 board with a $2 CPU is not 
> interesting.  If that displeases you, take it up with Microbit, not me.
> 
> I'm not in education.  I am an engineer and an experimenter.  I like low 
> priced stuff that I can use without thinking about the cost.  The 
> Microbit is not targeted to that market.  It is targeted to the 
> education market where they provide educational materials and charge a 
> correspondingly higher price.  I didn't know that until I saw the prices.
> 
> -- 
> 
> Rick C

Actually I give a shit about the prices. All of these details were asked here. As STEM Ambassador I got them for free anyway to work with - and made Mecrisp MicroBit  possible by sending one to Matthias so he had a hardware basis to work on.

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#49996

From	rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com>
Date	2016-08-12 11:11 -0400
Message-ID	<nokout$h5v$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#49994

On 8/12/2016 8:17 AM, JUERGEN wrote:
> On Friday, August 12, 2016 at 7:48:24 AM UTC+1, rickman wrote:
>> On 8/12/2016 1:50 AM, JUERGEN wrote:
>>> On Thursday, August 11, 2016 at 10:57:00 PM UTC+1, rickman wrote:
>>>> On 8/11/2016 6:41 AM, JUERGEN wrote:
>>>>> On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 6:52:21 PM UTC+1, rickman wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/9/2016 11:20 AM, JUERGEN wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sunday, August 7, 2016 at 5:30:16 PM UTC+1, rickman wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 8/7/2016 6:39 AM, JUERGEN wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, August 6, 2016 at 6:32:35 PM UTC+1, rickman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 8/6/2016 7:13 AM, JUERGEN wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, April 6, 2016 at 8:14:43 AM UTC+1, JUERGEN wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> A MicroBit has arrived on my desk, but no Forth yet available. Until a real Forth is running, and as Python is a supported language - is there a Forth out there in Python I could load and run? Speed is not the issue for now nor is completeness. I mainly want to control the IOs, and the 25 LEDs are just enough to display ok, or a 4 Bit INPUT value, a 4 bit OUTPUT value - and 3 levels of Stack ...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Any help appreciated. http://microbit-micropython.readthedocs.org/en/latest/.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Picture and video you can find at https://www.facebook.com/groups/PROGRAMMINGFORTH/?fref=ts. Has anybody re-written JonesForth in Python?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2 ARMs and a MicroBit https://www.techwillsaveus.com/shop/microbit-bundle/?utm_source=Technology+Will+Save+Us+Newsletter&utm_campaign=f559a7a865-Micro%3Abit+mb+lovers&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_a0c875b17f-f559a7a865-346130093
>>>>>>>>>>> £15 to £25 depending on Kit contents - has anybody bought one yet and is running Mecrisp Forth?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm seeing much higher prices in the US, $50 and $75 for the "BBC
>>>>>>>>>> micro:bit Activity Kit" and the "BBC micro:bit" respectively.  Any idea
>>>>>>>>>> why the difference?  Exactly which products are you seeing?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Rick C
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> look at the shipping page: https://www.techwillsaveus.com/home/shipping/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That only shows the shipping costs.  I don't see the products you seem
>>>>>>>> to be seeing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The UK Pound is currently around $1.30 while not too long ago it was
>>>>>>>> more like $1.50.  But even at $1.50 the £25 price you mention would only
>>>>>>>> be $37.50.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What products do you see for £15 to £25?  Can you just tell me the names
>>>>>>>> so I can see if they are the same ones I see?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Rick C
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> £25 for the kit at https://www.techwillsaveus.com/shop/microbit-bundle/?utm_source=Technology+Will+Save+Us+Newsletter&utm_campaign=f559a7a865-Micro%3Abit+mb+lovers&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_a0c875b17f-f559a7a865-346130093
>>>>>>> The ultimate pack contains
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     BBC micro:bit
>>>>>>>     20× electronic components to build projects and activities
>>>>>>>     USB cable to connect it to your laptop
>>>>>>>     Battery holder to make it mobile
>>>>>>>     No other tools required
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> £15 at https://www.techwillsaveus.com/shop/microbit/ just the MicroBit; the USB cable you probably have and use it on your mobile. I actually used 5 countersunk screws and wires to connect it to a solderless breadboard
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Shipping at https://www.techwillsaveus.com/home/shipping/
>>>>>>> US
>>>>>>> US shipping
>>>>>>> FREE Standard Delivery on all orders over $50
>>>>>>> US Standard Delivery – 3 to 7 days – $5.00
>>>>>>> Did this help and you can see it now - 3 Microbits or kits and shipment is free
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, something is wrong with their web site I suspect.  The prices for
>>>>>> the units you provide links to are $50 US and $75 US with the Microbit
>>>>>> board being the $75 item.  I expect they are giving US vs. UK pricing
>>>>>> based on my IP address.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think $50 for the kit is not a bad price.  $75 for the board is pretty
>>>>>> high.  If the mistake they made was switching the prices, the £15 board
>>>>>> would be $50 and the £25 kit would be $75.  This is still pretty high
>>>>>> with a 3:1 exchange rate which is more than twice the going rate.
>>>>>> Something has gone awry with their currency conversion and/or web site
>>>>>> creation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rick C
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, there are the proven old methods if you really want one: call or email
>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/techwillsaveus/app/100265896690345/
>>>>> and the relevant data from there:
>>>>> Founded on January 1, 2012
>>>>> Short Description:
>>>>> We create DIY gadget kits that encourage everyone to make, play code and invent with technology.
>>>>> Mission:
>>>>> Technology Will Save Us is one of the UK's most exciting design-led, technology start-ups focused on learning. We are on a m... See More
>>>>> Phone: 020 3004 8843
>>>>> Email: info@techwillsaveus.com
>>>>> Website: http://www.techwillsaveus.com
>>>>> I do not think there is anything more I can do for you
>>>>
>>>> I'm not all that excited by this device to be honest.  It's interesting,
>>>> but it's not being marketed to me.  I'm not in education.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Rick C
>>>
>>> Why do you waste my time then - frustrating. All the indications where yes I am interested and now this
>>
>> If it were a reasonable price so that would be competitive and popular
>> then it would be interesting.  But a $75 board with a $2 CPU is not
>> interesting.  If that displeases you, take it up with Microbit, not me.
>>
>> I'm not in education.  I am an engineer and an experimenter.  I like low
>> priced stuff that I can use without thinking about the cost.  The
>> Microbit is not targeted to that market.  It is targeted to the
>> education market where they provide educational materials and charge a
>> correspondingly higher price.  I didn't know that until I saw the prices.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Rick C
>
> Actually I give a shit about the prices. All of these details were asked here. As STEM Ambassador I got them for free anyway to work with - and made Mecrisp MicroBit  possible by sending one to Matthias so he had a hardware basis to work on.

Great!  Problem solved.  You should have mentioned that you would 
provide the hardware.

-- 

Rick C

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#50043

From	endlessboomcapitalism@gmail.com
Date	2016-08-13 09:53 -0700
Message-ID	<90653e8b-bc7f-434c-87eb-fa4baa7dc388@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#46543

On Wednesday, April 6, 2016 at 3:14:43 AM UTC-4, JUERGEN wrote:
> A MicroBit has arrived on my desk, but no Forth yet available. Until a real Forth is running, and as Python is a supported language - is there a Forth out there in Python I could load and run? Speed is not the issue for now nor is completeness. I mainly want to control the IOs, and the 25 LEDs are just enough to display ok, or a 4 Bit INPUT value, a 4 bit OUTPUT value - and 3 levels of Stack ...
> Any help appreciated. http://microbit-micropython.readthedocs.org/en/latest/.
> Picture and video you can find at https://www.facebook.com/groups/PROGRAMMINGFORTH/?fref=ts. Has anybody re-written JonesForth in Python?

python is just diet java dsinged to hrd ya toward oracle cancer

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#50054

From	JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com>
Date	2016-08-13 11:39 -0700
Message-ID	<1d730c35-2fa5-4c22-b88b-5a46bbcd9c0f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#50043

On Saturday, August 13, 2016 at 5:53:39 PM UTC+1, endlessboo...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 6, 2016 at 3:14:43 AM UTC-4, JUERGEN wrote:
> > A MicroBit has arrived on my desk, but no Forth yet available. Until a real Forth is running, and as Python is a supported language - is there a Forth out there in Python I could load and run? Speed is not the issue for now nor is completeness. I mainly want to control the IOs, and the 25 LEDs are just enough to display ok, or a 4 Bit INPUT value, a 4 bit OUTPUT value - and 3 levels of Stack ...
> > Any help appreciated. http://microbit-micropython.readthedocs.org/en/latest/.
> > Picture and video you can find at https://www.facebook.com/groups/PROGRAMMINGFORTH/?fref=ts. Has anybody re-written JonesForth in Python?
> 
> python is just diet java dsinged to hrd ya toward oracle cancer

ENDLESS POO is just a troll it seems - drunk?  annot typ

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#50056

From	endlessboomcapitalism@gmail.com
Date	2016-08-13 11:54 -0700
Message-ID	<0981fe5a-c7f1-4f32-a729-31e3817ac774@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#50054

On Saturday, August 13, 2016 at 2:39:49 PM UTC-4, JUERGEN wrote:
> On Saturday, August 13, 2016 at 5:53:39 PM UTC+1, endlessboo...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Wednesday, April 6, 2016 at 3:14:43 AM UTC-4, JUERGEN wrote:
> > > A MicroBit has arrived on my desk, but no Forth yet available. Until a real Forth is running, and as Python is a supported language - is there a Forth out there in Python I could load and run? Speed is not the issue for now nor is completeness. I mainly want to control the IOs, and the 25 LEDs are just enough to display ok, or a 4 Bit INPUT value, a 4 bit OUTPUT value - and 3 levels of Stack ...
> > > Any help appreciated. http://microbit-micropython.readthedocs.org/en/latest/.
> > > Picture and video you can find at https://www.facebook.com/groups/PROGRAMMINGFORTH/?fref=ts. Has anybody re-written JonesForth in Python?
> > 
> > python is just diet java dsinged to hrd ya toward oracle cancer
> 
> ENDLESS POO is just a troll it seems - drunk?  annot typ

oracle twitter apple google are cancer

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#50057

From	JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com>
Date	2016-08-13 12:04 -0700
Message-ID	<572d38c1-1499-4e2e-926f-d063e6555e11@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#50056

On Saturday, August 13, 2016 at 7:54:16 PM UTC+1, endlessboo...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, August 13, 2016 at 2:39:49 PM UTC-4, JUERGEN wrote:
> > On Saturday, August 13, 2016 at 5:53:39 PM UTC+1, endlessboo...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, April 6, 2016 at 3:14:43 AM UTC-4, JUERGEN wrote:
> > > > A MicroBit has arrived on my desk, but no Forth yet available. Until a real Forth is running, and as Python is a supported language - is there a Forth out there in Python I could load and run? Speed is not the issue for now nor is completeness. I mainly want to control the IOs, and the 25 LEDs are just enough to display ok, or a 4 Bit INPUT value, a 4 bit OUTPUT value - and 3 levels of Stack ...
> > > > Any help appreciated. http://microbit-micropython.readthedocs.org/en/latest/.
> > > > Picture and video you can find at https://www.facebook.com/groups/PROGRAMMINGFORTH/?fref=ts. Has anybody re-written JonesForth in Python?
> > > 
> > > python is just diet java dsinged to hrd ya toward oracle cancer
> > 
> > ENDLESS POO is just a troll it seems - drunk?  annot typ
> 
> oracle twitter apple google are cancer

ENDLESS POO is just a troll it seems - drunk?  annot typ -  repeated idiotic garbage just shows the mental status

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#50734

From	Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com>
Date	2016-09-07 11:24 -0500
Message-ID	<nqpf0b$6f4$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#46543

On 4/6/2016 2:14 AM, JUERGEN wrote:
> A MicroBit has arrived on my desk, but no Forth yet available. Until a real Forth is running, and as Python is a supported language - is there a Forth out there in Python I could load and run? Speed is not the issue for now nor is completeness. I mainly want to control the IOs, and the 25 LEDs are just enough to display ok, or a 4 Bit INPUT value, a 4 bit OUTPUT value - and 3 levels of Stack ...
> Any help appreciated. http://microbit-micropython.readthedocs.org/en/latest/.
> Picture and video you can find at https://www.facebook.com/groups/PROGRAMMINGFORTH/?fref=ts. Has anybody re-written JonesForth in Python?
>

I'm not sure it's worth the effort of dealing with Forth written in an 
interpretive language, I would think it would be slow.

Are you sure that something like the MPE Lite version of their compiler 
would not be usable with minimum effort? It targets the ARM M0 as part 
of it's capabilities, you might have to copy and change the CPU file to 
define where the Flash, and RAM are and define a couple of words to do 
IO but it should not be a horrible amount of work. You will be limited 
to 64K of FLASH, and 16K of RAM, but Forth can do an awful lot with 
that. It has a tethered version available to minimize the resources used 
in the target while staying interactive

There are other free versions of Forth for M0 CPUs such as Mecrisp.

-- 
Cecil - k5nwa

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#50755

From	JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com>
Date	2016-09-08 11:57 -0700
Message-ID	<a0e2702c-4f04-419e-b547-443309a59dd2@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#50734

On Wednesday, September 7, 2016 at 5:24:46 PM UTC+1, Cecil - k5nwa wrote:
> On 4/6/2016 2:14 AM, JUERGEN wrote:
> > A MicroBit has arrived on my desk, but no Forth yet available. Until a real Forth is running, and as Python is a supported language - is there a Forth out there in Python I could load and run? Speed is not the issue for now nor is completeness. I mainly want to control the IOs, and the 25 LEDs are just enough to display ok, or a 4 Bit INPUT value, a 4 bit OUTPUT value - and 3 levels of Stack ...
> > Any help appreciated. http://microbit-micropython.readthedocs.org/en/latest/.
> > Picture and video you can find at https://www.facebook.com/groups/PROGRAMMINGFORTH/?fref=ts. Has anybody re-written JonesForth in Python?
> >
> 
> I'm not sure it's worth the effort of dealing with Forth written in an 
> interpretive language, I would think it would be slow.
> 
> Are you sure that something like the MPE Lite version of their compiler 
> would not be usable with minimum effort? It targets the ARM M0 as part 
> of it's capabilities, you might have to copy and change the CPU file to 
> define where the Flash, and RAM are and define a couple of words to do 
> IO but it should not be a horrible amount of work. You will be limited 
> to 64K of FLASH, and 16K of RAM, but Forth can do an awful lot with 
> that. It has a tethered version available to minimize the resources used 
> in the target while staying interactive
> 
> There are other free versions of Forth for M0 CPUs such as Mecrisp.
> 
> -- 
> Cecil - k5nwa

I got hold of a Microbit sent it to Germany to Matthias, he adapted Mecisp, it runs under Linux, 
no solution yet for Windows. And this is what I want. 12 year olds normally do not have Linux.
For me speed is no issue, actually it does not matter it will be the fastest Forth on microbit until there is a better implementation - 
I want to see how it can be implemented. 
There are enough DevBoards from ST around and I have MPE VFX LITE running on it now.

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#50788

From	lawrencedo99@gmail.com
Date	2016-09-09 13:48 -0700
Message-ID	<19d3a78e-e9c5-4ea4-bf5a-883b7f9b27cf@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#50755

On Friday, September 9, 2016 at 6:57:51 AM UTC+12, JUERGEN wrote:
> 12 year olds normally do not have Linux.

Why not? It’s easy to get hold of.

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#50799

From	JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com>
Date	2016-09-10 00:19 -0700
Message-ID	<51208094-3484-441d-8f95-04927b760e57@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#50788

On Friday, September 9, 2016 at 9:48:20 PM UTC+1, lawren...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, September 9, 2016 at 6:57:51 AM UTC+12, JUERGEN wrote:
> > 12 year olds normally do not have Linux.
> 
> Why not? It’s easy to get hold of.

what do you mean?

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