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  yourforth malware? foxaudioresearch@gmail.com - 2016-10-14 09:59 -0700
    Re: yourforth malware? albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2016-10-14 21:02 +0200
      Re: yourforth malware? lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-10-14 14:40 -0700
        Re: yourforth malware? "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2016-10-14 14:47 -1000
          Re: yourforth malware? Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2016-10-14 21:35 -0500
            Re: yourforth malware? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-14 19:40 -0700
              Re: yourforth malware? Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2016-10-14 23:09 -0500
                Re: yourforth malware? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-14 23:21 -0700
                  Re: yourforth malware? Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2016-10-15 09:53 -0500
                Re: yourforth malware? Mikael Nordman <oh2aun@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 01:00 -0700

#51862 — yourforth malware?

I wanted to review Albert's Yourforth project and did a Google search and lot of links like this one
came up.

http://malwarefixes.com/how-to-remove-yourforth/

Albert were you aware of this malware for Mac OS with the same name as your system?

Or has someone used your Forth to create OS X malware?

BF

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#51866

In article <6efee378-7a0f-4641-b90a-49075021a33f@googlegroups.com>,
 <foxaudioresearch@gmail.com> wrote:
>I wanted to review Albert's Yourforth project and did a Google search and lot of links like this one
>came up.
>
>http://malwarefixes.com/how-to-remove-yourforth/
>
>Albert were you aware of this malware for Mac OS with the same name
>as your system?

I wasn't. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.

>
>Or has someone used your Forth to create OS X malware?

It is unlikely that one would use yourforth to
create such a sophisticated malware.
Also yourforth is primarily intended for Linux not PC and OSX.
It is an other matter if criminals were looking for a very
simple Forth to tuck onto a malware system to make it look
legit. That is not totally unthinkable.

With so many programs floating around clashes are inevitable.
There is an advantage. I will probably not receive a court order
to stop using the name, because of registered trademarks.

>
>BF
-- 
Albert van der Horst, UTRECHT,THE NETHERLANDS
Economic growth -- being exponential -- ultimately falters.
albert@spe&ar&c.xs4all.nl &=n http://home.hccnet.nl/a.w.m.van.der.horst

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#51867

On Saturday, October 15, 2016 at 7:53:40 AM UTC+13, Albert van der Horst wrote:

> Also yourforth is primarily intended for Linux not PC and OSX.

Is “PC” an OS now?

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#51870

On 10/14/16 11:40 AM, lawrencedo99@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, October 15, 2016 at 7:53:40 AM UTC+13, Albert van der Horst wrote:
>
>> Also yourforth is primarily intended for Linux not PC and OSX.
>
> Is “PC” an OS now?

Shorthand for the W-word.

Cheers,
Elizabeth

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#51871

On 10/14/2016 7:47 PM, Elizabeth D. Rather wrote:
> On 10/14/16 11:40 AM, lawrencedo99@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Saturday, October 15, 2016 at 7:53:40 AM UTC+13, Albert van der
>> Horst wrote:
>>
>>> Also yourforth is primarily intended for Linux not PC and OSX.
>>
>> Is “PC” an OS now?
>
> Shorthand for the W-word.
>
> Cheers,
> Elizabeth
>
That is giving the wonderful evil corporation in Redmond too much 
credit, is that the only choice if one has a PC? I use Windows 10 but 
I'm reaching my limit with all the problems that Windows has, I'm 
seriously thinking about dumping Windows.

-- 
Cecil - k5nwa

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#51872

Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> writes:
> seriously thinking about dumping Windows.

Reverse defenestration: throwing Windows out of a computer.  (h/t Eric Smith)

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#51873

On 10/14/2016 9:40 PM, Paul Rubin wrote:
> Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> writes:
>> seriously thinking about dumping Windows.
>
> Reverse defenestration: throwing Windows out of a computer.  (h/t Eric Smith)
>
I have a PC with Mint Linux 18.0, and a virtual Partition with the same 
on several computers, they from way back just work fine, I upgrade the 
OS, many patches and everything stays working, I can't say the same for 
Windows.

My current issues with Windows is that I made a mistake on several key 
PCs and signed up for the Insider Versions, then they go an make it that 
  you have to keep upgrading it or Windows will cease working, but if 
you upgrade it the same can happen or you have many bugs.

The current version has some serious problems but my PCs will not 
upgrade to the new version, and once it starts trying to upgrade, it's 
non-stop download 3GB, say goodbye to your PC for several hours, only to 
fail and start doing it again. I figured out how to stop that but, I 
have some serious problems with the current version of Windows but I 
can't install the latest version either.

I can get off this merry go round once they release the next non-Insider 
Version, at that point I can turn off the Insider process but not until 
then or the PC will in a couple of month stop booting.

I have one PC that on the attempt to upgrade got corrupted and now will 
not boot at all, I'm tempted to make that PC a Linux machine It's a 
decent machine for Linux it has an I5 3.4GHz Processor and 8GB of RAM, I 
do have an image from way back before I had it joined the Insider merry 
go round.

-- 
Cecil - k5nwa

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#51874

Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> writes:
> I'm tempted to make that PC a Linux machine

What are you waiting for?

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#51878

On 10/15/2016 1:21 AM, Paul Rubin wrote:
> Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> writes:
>> I'm tempted to make that PC a Linux machine
>
> What are you waiting for?
>
It will take a little bit of time to test all my software and make sure 
they run correctly. I've accumulated a lot of paid software over the 
years and it's all Windows software.

I came close to flipping away from Windows a couple of years back and I 
tested about 70% of my software and they seemed to work fine under Wine, 
specially the older software. My main concern is Photoshop, Adobe 
LightRoom, and Adobe Elements, I use those quite a bit. I'm  also 
concerned abut my FPGA software, I've read that it's a bear to install 
the Linux version of Lattice Diamond, and Vivado and get it to work.

I could keep a PC or two still running Windows, I bought while on sale 4 
120GB SSD drives that I could use to install Mint Linux and still keep 
Windows in a multi-boot environment.

But yes I will install Windows on that PC that crashed and burned with 
the Windows 10 upgrade this evening, it's one of those tiny HP PCs so 
8GB RAM is all it can take, and it only has one HD, before I added an 
external USB 1GB external drive for bulk storage.

I hesitate to convert the whole lot,only because I paid a lot of money 
for Windows, I have 4 laptops and 13 desktops, I was in the PC business 
and I accumulated a lot of gear over the years, all my desktops have 
Quad Core CPUs as a minimum, 7 of them are I7 CPUs so that is quite an 
investment in Software. I saved some money by buying used HP hardware, I 
went on eBay and bought the DVDs from HP to install Windows 7 for free, 
then upgraded to Windows 10, still I ended buying quite a few copies of 
Windows 7 and Windows 8 for the other CPUs, all were upgraded to Windows 10.

-- 
Cecil - k5nwa

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#51876

On Saturday, October 15, 2016 at 7:09:33 AM UTC+3, Cecil - k5nwa wrote:

> I have one PC that on the attempt to upgrade got corrupted and now will 
> not boot at all, I'm tempted to make that PC a Linux machine It's a 
> decent machine for Linux it has an I5 3.4GHz Processor and 8GB of RAM, I 
> do have an image from way back before I had it joined the Insider merry 
> go round.
> 
> -- 
> Cecil - k5nwa

I am running Xubuntu 16.04.
If I need to run a windows program like avrasm2.exe I can use Wine for that.
And I can run various Windows versions in Virtualbox if really needed.
I have a WindowsXP Virtualbox for running some older programs.

I am really happy happy to have Linux as my main operating system !

Mikael - OH2AUN

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