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Forth News from Europe - Video - Olimex - ARM - VFX - Mecrisp and the question: Which other Forths - ANS or not - will run on this NXP LPC1114 platform?

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#45818 — Re: Forth News from Europe ...

From	Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid>
Date	2016-03-04 00:23 -0800
Subject	Re: Forth News from Europe ...
Message-ID	<8737s6zm6y.fsf@nightsong.com>
In reply to	#45758

rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> writes:
>> Matthias, are you working on a Mecrisp for this chip already?
> If someone is working on a Forth for the OSHchip I would be very
> interested in helping.  I need exactly this device for a project. 

Thinking about it further, there might be some snags due to the need to
multitask the user application and Forth interpreter with the Bluetooth
stack on the MCU.  The Bluetooth stack has some hard realtime
requirements to transfer bits to and from the air interface on schedule.
There is some kind of callback-based(?) API for C applications so it
might be easier to hook in something like PForth or the C version of
eForth, than a fancier Forth that expects the whole cpu to itself.  I
haven't looked into it yet though.

If you want add-on Bluetooth for a small board, RF Digital (of rfduino)
now has a very tiny (10*7*2.2 mm) SMT module:
   https://www.sparkfun.com/products/13808

If you can stand something bigger, there are Adafruit Feather ARM M0 and
Atmega 32U4 BLE boards:

  https://www.adafruit.com/products/2995
  https://www.adafruit.com/products/2829

These have a cpu and a separate bluetooth module on the same board,
along with a built-in lipo charger and other creature comforts, plus a
stacking connector with various add-on boards available.  It's pretty
impressive: https://www.adafruit.com/feather

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#44161 — Re: Forth News from Europe - Video - Olimex - ARM - VFX - Mecrisp and the question: Which other Forths - ANS or not - will run on this NXP LPC1114 platform?

From	"Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1>
Date	2015-12-09 14:34 -0100
Subject	Re: Forth News from Europe - Video - Olimex - ARM - VFX - Mecrisp and the question: Which other Forths - ANS or not - will run on this NXP LPC1114 platform?
Message-ID	<op.x9duu10pmsr2db@anyhost.anywhere>
In reply to	#43944

On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 21:15:28 -0100, JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com> wrote:

[]>
> We just found at the ARM HITEX conference a new candidate
> INFINEON 1100   60 Flash USB chip on the little  board, about $6,  small  
> - fits into the TicTac Box with batteries - brilliant - let's see when a  
> first Forth will be available - see www.Forth-ev.de

Pi zero is $5, IIRC
-- 
Bah, and indeed, Humbug

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#44179 — Re: Forth News from Europe - Video - Olimex - ARM - VFX - Mecrisp and the question: Which other Forths - ANS or not - will run on this NXP LPC1114 platform?

From	JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com>
Date	2015-12-10 07:00 -0800
Subject	Re: Forth News from Europe - Video - Olimex - ARM - VFX - Mecrisp and the question: Which other Forths - ANS or not - will run on this NXP LPC1114 platform?
Message-ID	<1ac1325f-fd37-4936-bc63-a7eccec9d6a8@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#44161

On Wednesday, December 9, 2015 at 3:32:43 PM UTC, Kerr Mudd-John wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 21:15:28 -0100, JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com> wrote:
> 
> []>
> > We just found at the ARM HITEX conference a new candidate
> > INFINEON 1100   60 Flash USB chip on the little  board, about $6,  small  
> > - fits into the TicTac Box with batteries - brilliant - let's see when a  
> > first Forth will be available - see www.Forth-ev.de
> 
> Pi zero is $5, IIRC
> -- 
> Bah, and indeed, Humbug

Can you explain what you mean with your comment?

This is the first Infineon ARM board with Forth on it. 
If you are not interested - fine. 

But  you get the USB to Serial for free anyway.

This is NOT a sales forum I thouht and we do not sell this board anyway.

And if I look at the cost of the Pi for me it is not $5 but $2005, which might cover the additional time it costs to learn Linux, otherwise the Pi  is for me just for the bin even it it were free.

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#45759 — Re: Forth News from Europe - Video - Olimex - ARM - VFX - Mecrisp and the question: Which other Forths - ANS or not - will run on this NXP LPC1114 platform?

From	rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com>
Date	2016-03-01 09:48 -0500
Subject	Re: Forth News from Europe - Video - Olimex - ARM - VFX - Mecrisp and the question: Which other Forths - ANS or not - will run on this NXP LPC1114 platform?
Message-ID	<nb49tq$59n$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#44161

On 12/9/2015 10:34 AM, Kerr Mudd-John wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 21:15:28 -0100, JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com> wrote:
>
> []>
>> We just found at the ARM HITEX conference a new candidate
>> INFINEON 1100   60 Flash USB chip on the little  board, about $6,
>> small - fits into the TicTac Box with batteries - brilliant - let's
>> see when a first Forth will be available - see www.Forth-ev.de
>
> Pi zero is $5, IIRC

The Pi Zero is a great little device, but good luck trying to run it on 
batteries very long.  How often do you need to charge your smart phone 
vs. replacing your watch battery?  Also I've been trying to buy one, but 
they seem to be made of unobtanium-235.  Microcenter never has them in 
stock long enough to buy one.

-- 

Rick

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#45786 — Re: Forth News from Europe - Video - Olimex - ARM - VFX - Mecrisp and the question: Which other Forths - ANS or not - will run on this NXP LPC1114 platform?

From	stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc)
Date	2016-03-02 18:38 +0000
Subject	Re: Forth News from Europe - Video - Olimex - ARM - VFX - Mecrisp and the question: Which other Forths - ANS or not - will run on this NXP LPC1114 platform?
Message-ID	<56d7325c.83714504@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to	#45759

On Tue, 1 Mar 2016 09:48:16 -0500, rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 12/9/2015 10:34 AM, Kerr Mudd-John wrote:
>> On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 21:15:28 -0100, JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> []>
>>> We just found at the ARM HITEX conference a new candidate
>>> INFINEON 1100   60 Flash USB chip on the little  board, about $6,
>>> small - fits into the TicTac Box with batteries - brilliant - let's
>>> see when a first Forth will be available - see www.Forth-ev.de

The MPE cross compilers, including the Lite version, support the 
little XMC2Go board.

>The Pi Zero is a great little device, but good luck trying to run it on 
>batteries very long.  How often do you need to charge your smart phone 
>vs. replacing your watch battery?  Also I've been trying to buy one, but 
>they seem to be made of unobtanium-235.  Microcenter never has them in 
>stock long enough to buy one.

See 
  http://www.mpeforth.com/vfxlinux.htm
The ARM version runs on all Raspberry Pis that we have tested. I'll
report on the RPi 3 when it arrives ...

Stephen

-- 
Stephen Pelc, stephenXXX@mpeforth.com
MicroProcessor Engineering Ltd - More Real, Less Time
133 Hill Lane, Southampton SO15 5AF, England
tel: +44 (0)23 8063 1441, fax: +44 (0)23 8033 9691
web: http://www.mpeforth.com - free VFX Forth downloads

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#44161 — Re: Forth News from Europe - Video - Olimex - ARM - VFX - Mecrisp and the question: Which other Forths - ANS or not - will run on this NXP LPC1114 platform?

#44179 — Re: Forth News from Europe - Video - Olimex - ARM - VFX - Mecrisp and the question: Which other Forths - ANS or not - will run on this NXP LPC1114 platform?

#45759 — Re: Forth News from Europe - Video - Olimex - ARM - VFX - Mecrisp and the question: Which other Forths - ANS or not - will run on this NXP LPC1114 platform?

#45786 — Re: Forth News from Europe - Video - Olimex - ARM - VFX - Mecrisp and the question: Which other Forths - ANS or not - will run on this NXP LPC1114 platform?