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  How to write a compile documentation Cecil - k5nwa <cecil.bayona@k5nwa.com> - 2016-04-26 08:40 -0700
    Re: How to write a compile documentation foxaudioresearch@gmail.com - 2016-04-27 11:47 -0700
      Re: How to write a compile documentation Cecil - k5nwa <cecil.bayona@k5nwa.com> - 2016-04-27 14:02 -0700
        Re: How to write a compile documentation Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-27 17:05 -0700
        Re: How to write a compile documentation Albert van der Horst <albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2016-04-28 12:12 +0000
          Re: How to write a compile documentation Mikael Nordman <oh2aun@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 06:54 -0700
          Re: How to write a compile documentation Cecil - k5nwa <cecil.bayona@k5nwa.com> - 2016-04-28 20:10 -0700
          Re: How to write a compile documentation Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2016-05-10 12:20 -0500
            Re: How to write a compile documentation Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2016-05-10 20:51 -0500
              Re: How to write a compile documentation Mikael Nordman <oh2aun@gmail.com> - 2016-05-10 20:32 -0700
              Re: How to write a compile documentation Mikael Nordman <oh2aun@gmail.com> - 2016-05-10 20:32 -0700
                Re: How to write a compile documentation Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2016-05-11 00:11 -0500
                  Re: How to write a compile documentation Mikael Nordman <oh2aun@gmail.com> - 2016-05-10 22:39 -0700
                Re: How to write a compile documentation Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2016-05-12 12:23 -0500
                  Re: How to write a compile documentation Mikael Nordman <oh2aun@gmail.com> - 2016-05-12 12:50 -0700
                    Re: How to write a compile documentation Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2016-05-12 16:19 -0500
                      Re: How to write a compile documentation Mikael Nordman <oh2aun@gmail.com> - 2016-05-13 06:36 -0700
                        Re: How to write a compile documentation Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2016-05-13 09:44 -0500
                          Re: How to write a compile documentation Mikael Nordman <oh2aun@gmail.com> - 2016-05-13 08:01 -0700
                            Re: How to write a compile documentation Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2016-05-13 13:00 -0500
                              Re: How to write a compile documentation Mikael Nordman <oh2aun@gmail.com> - 2016-05-13 12:51 -0700
                                Re: How to write a compile documentation Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2016-05-13 17:15 -0500
                                  Re: How to write a compile documentation Mikael Nordman <oh2aun@gmail.com> - 2016-05-13 21:31 -0700
                                    Re: How to write a compile documentation Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2016-05-14 10:19 -0500
                        Re: How to write a compile documentation Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2016-05-21 19:29 -0500
      Re: How to write a compile documentation "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2016-04-28 12:34 +1000
        Re: How to write a compile documentation foxaudioresearch@gmail.com - 2016-04-28 06:14 -0700
    Re: How to write a compile documentation Cecil - k5nwa <cecil.bayona@k5nwa.com> - 2016-05-02 13:36 -0700
      Re: How to write a compile documentation Jan Coombs <jenfhaomndgfwutc@murmic.plus.com> - 2016-05-02 22:25 +0100
        Re: How to write a compile documentation Cecil - k5nwa <cecil.bayona@k5nwa.com> - 2016-05-02 16:00 -0700
          Re: How to write a compile documentation Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-05-02 17:48 -0700
            Re: How to write a compile documentation Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2016-05-02 21:16 -0500
              Re: How to write a compile documentation Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2016-05-02 21:24 -0500

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#47093

On Friday, May 13, 2016 at 9:00:58 PM UTC+3, Cecil - k5nwa wrote:

> I stock ATMEGA329P in my small store, and make programming available. I 
> you don't mind I will make the Arduinos available with FF flashed in, 
> and the chips also, right now persons can select one of several Arduino 
> software versions.
> 
> -- 
> Cecil - k5nwa

Sure, I don't mind. The more FF the better :-)

If you make your own version of FlashForth and distribute it you need to 
follow the license and modify the name and publish the source on 
for example github.

Mikael


I hope you mean ATMEGA328 not 329.

BR Mikael

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#47099

On 5/13/2016 2:51 PM, Mikael Nordman wrote:
> On Friday, May 13, 2016 at 9:00:58 PM UTC+3, Cecil - k5nwa wrote:
>
>> I stock ATMEGA329P in my small store, and make programming available. I
>> you don't mind I will make the Arduinos available with FF flashed in,
>> and the chips also, right now persons can select one of several Arduino
>> software versions.
>>
>> --
>> Cecil - k5nwa
>
> Sure, I don't mind. The more FF the better :-)
>
> If you make your own version of FlashForth and distribute it you need to
> follow the license and modify the name and publish the source on
> for example github.
>
> Mikael
>
>
> I hope you mean ATMEGA328 not 329.
>
> BR Mikael
>
No changes will be made to FF initially, eventually I might add some 
optional libraries, I don't know if you have them, I guess I will figure 
it out over the next few days as I read the documentation,  but I want 
I2C, SPI, and several common Arduino peripherals such as keyboard, 16x2 
display, relays, etc, eventually additional devices.

I meant ATMEGA328P, sorry a typo.

I'm kind of annoyed with Mouser, I ordered some stuff yesterday and they 
still have not shipped the items even though they are all in stock, but 
they took my money yesterday.

Have you considered supporting other CPUs such as ARM? You cover a few 
CPUs so you might be sick of re-writing the software.


Thanks


-- 
Cecil - k5nwa

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#47108

On Saturday, May 14, 2016 at 1:15:24 AM UTC+3, Cecil - k5nwa wrote:

> Have you considered supporting other CPUs such as ARM? You cover a few 
> CPUs so you might be sick of re-writing the software.
>

Considered, yes. 
Do, not. 

There are too many other interesting things in my backlog.
Like the IF-SDR RX with dsPIC that I have not done yet.

For all my stuff these simpler controllers are powerful enough.
And simpler to master also.

> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> -- 
> Cecil - k5nwa

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#47121

On 5/13/2016 11:31 PM, Mikael Nordman wrote:
> On Saturday, May 14, 2016 at 1:15:24 AM UTC+3, Cecil - k5nwa wrote:
>
>> Have you considered supporting other CPUs such as ARM? You cover a few
>> CPUs so you might be sick of re-writing the software.
>>
>
> Considered, yes.
> Do, not.
>
> There are too many other interesting things in my backlog.
> Like the IF-SDR RX with dsPIC that I have not done yet.
>
> For all my stuff these simpler controllers are powerful enough.
> And simpler to master also.
>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>> --
>> Cecil - k5nwa
>
That is interesting, the most difficult project on my list once I'm 
familiar with the tools is also a SDR radio controlled by a dsPIC or an 
ARM CPU, either one could do it. The dsPIC could do it easily with 
assembler written DSP routines. the ARM is more powerful and could do it 
all in Forth. Most other projects many which are Ham Radio related could 
be easily done by the dsPIC, some even with an AVR Arduino.

I'm working on getting a PC setup for AVR development today, next a 
dsPIC development PC, then an ARM Development PC. The first project I 
want to work on is a Oven Controller for soldering SMT boards, I already 
have a solution using a PIC but would like to make a fancier version 
with something more powerful.
-- 
Cecil - k5nwa

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#47410

On 5/13/2016 8:36 AM, Mikael Nordman wrote:

>
> A 32-bit FF could access all flash.
> A 16-bit FF where flash addresses would be two cells long could be another approach.
> But one point with FF was to keep things simple and concise for the user and as similar as possible  over the different architectures.
> Therefore I have stayed with the 16-bit data and code space, and the mapping of the memory spaces.
>
> OTOH you can fit a lot of code into the available flash space.
> My applications have never been so large, that I would have run out of code space.
>
>
>
> Also on the Atmega the memory is mapped into 16-bit address space.
> So on the ATMEGA328P all the memory can be used.
> On the 2560 approx 50 Kbyte of flash can be used for code and constants.
> The X@ X! can be used for fetching and storing in the whole flash memory.
>
> Mikael
>
I'm in the process of setting up several Virtual VMware PCs with Windows 
7 for use in keeping the development software for various Embedded CPUs 
and development hardware from interfering with one another. I've setup 
one for AVR, MSP430, PIC/dsPIC, ARM, and Lattice FPGA, the generic 
software is setup an all virtual machines, and I'm almost finished with 
the PIC/dsPIC version. When I finish with the PIC/dsPIC, and the AVR 
versions I will setup some test boards with FF and see how they work out.

-- 
Cecil - k5nwa

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#46822

foxaudioresearch@gmail.com wrote:
> ...
> I would happily share my work with you but I must tell you the memory model is for a
> segmented DOS system called HsForth.

For those who remember it.  According to Google, James T. Callahan of Harvard
Softworks and author of HS-Forth passed away in 2011 aged 61.

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#46828

On Wednesday, April 27, 2016 at 10:34:01 PM UTC-4, HAA wrote:
> foxaudioresearch@gmail.com wrote:
> > ...
> > I would happily share my work with you but I must tell you the memory model is for a
> > segmented DOS system called HsForth.
> 
> For those who remember it.  According to Google, James T. Callahan of Harvard
> Softworks and author of HS-Forth passed away in 2011 aged 61.

Thank you for telling us. I did not know that. 

I was a contributor in the nineties to some add-ons for HsForth and spoke to Jim but we never met in person.

He wrote a very big Forth system single-handedly and it came with comprehensive documentation, something not commonly found.

I am sad to hear that he is gone and at such an early age.


BF

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#46876

So my question is is there a free newsgroup server that will allow replies to the list?
Google will not limit lines to 72 characters.

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#46880

On Mon, 2 May 2016 13:36:36 -0700 (PDT)
Cecil - k5nwa <cecil.bayona@k5nwa.com> wrote:

> 
> So my question is is there a free newsgroup server that will
> allow replies to the list? Google will not limit lines to 72
> characters.


My provider seemed too restrictive, so I'm currently using 

news.eternal-september.org

Jan Coombs. 

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#46883

On Monday, May 2, 2016 at 4:25:16 PM UTC-5, Jan Coombs wrote:
> On Mon, 2 May 2016 13:36:36 -0700 (PDT)
> Cecil - k5nwa wrote:
> 
> > 
> > So my question is is there a free newsgroup server that will
> > allow replies to the list? Google will not limit lines to 72
> > characters.
> 
> 
> My provider seemed too restrictive, so I'm currently using 
> 
> news.eternal-september.org
> 
> Jan Coombs.

Is that a free group? it doesn't list any of the computer or other groups.

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#46885

Cecil - k5nwa <cecil.bayona@k5nwa.com> writes:
>> news.eternal-september.org
> Is that a free group? it doesn't list any of the computer or other groups.

It's a usenet server.  You can sign up at www.eternal-september.org .

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#46889

On 5/2/2016 7:48 PM, Paul Rubin wrote:
> Cecil - k5nwa <cecil.bayona@k5nwa.com> writes:
>>> news.eternal-september.org
>> Is that a free group? it doesn't list any of the computer or other groups.
>
> It's a usenet server.  You can sign up at www.eternal-september.org .
>
Trouble in Paradise, sending messages to the Usenet group with 
Thunderbird yields no errors but no message either.


-- 
Cecil - k5nwa

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#46890

On 5/2/2016 9:16 PM, Cecil Bayona wrote:
> On 5/2/2016 7:48 PM, Paul Rubin wrote:
>> Cecil - k5nwa <cecil.bayona@k5nwa.com> writes:
>>>> news.eternal-september.org
>>> Is that a free group? it doesn't list any of the computer or other
>>> groups.
>>
>> It's a usenet server.  You can sign up at www.eternal-september.org .
>>
> Trouble in Paradise, sending messages to the Usenet group with
> Thunderbird yields no errors but no message either.
>
>
Looks like it's all setup now, I am using Thunderbird and a Usenet 
server to send so it should keep my lines at 72 characters.

Although I wonder what fossil software some are using that can't handle 
more than 72 characters on a line.

-- 
Cecil - k5nwa

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