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How Computer Scientists Would Design a Toaster

Started byJason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com>
First post2015-07-10 10:30 -0700
Last post2015-07-13 10:59 -0700
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  How Computer Scientists Would Design a Toaster Jason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-10 10:30 -0700
    Re: How Computer Scientists Would Design a Toaster Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-10 11:40 -0700
      Re: How Computer Scientists Would Design a Toaster Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2015-07-10 20:15 +0100
    Re: How Computer Scientists Would Design a Toaster humptydumpty <ouatubi@gmail.com> - 2015-07-11 10:32 -0700
    Re: How Computer Scientists Would Design a Toaster hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-07-12 19:58 -0700
    Re: How Computer Scientists Would Design a Toaster hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-07-12 20:12 -0700
      Re: How Computer Scientists Would Design a Toaster Jason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-13 10:59 -0700

#40499 — How Computer Scientists Would Design a Toaster

FromJason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com>
Date2015-07-10 10:30 -0700
SubjectHow Computer Scientists Would Design a Toaster
Message-ID<fd63ca2e-6449-41c0-84fc-e4dd1a7bb4f1@googlegroups.com>
How Computer Scientists Would Design a Toaster

http://www.fiction.net/tidbits/computer/computer_cs_toaster.html

It has a happy ending

Jason

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#40503

FromPaul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid>
Date2015-07-10 11:40 -0700
Message-ID<87io9r6el9.fsf@jester.gateway.sonic.net>
In reply to#40499
Jason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com> writes:
> How Computer Scientists Would Design a Toaster
> http://www.fiction.net/tidbits/computer/computer_cs_toaster.html

Cute but I remember seeing that story back in the day, and realizing
that even a 4-bit microcontroller would have been "computer science"
overkill.  A real toaster (even today) just uses a bimetallic strip as a
thermostat, to release the pop-up spring and shut off the toaster when
the temperature reaches a given level.

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#40505

FromGerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk>
Date2015-07-10 20:15 +0100
Message-ID<mnp5i5$ks2$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#40503
On 10/07/2015 19:40, Paul Rubin wrote:
> Jason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com> writes:
>> How Computer Scientists Would Design a Toaster
>> http://www.fiction.net/tidbits/computer/computer_cs_toaster.html
>
> Cute but I remember seeing that story back in the day, and realizing
> that even a 4-bit microcontroller would have been "computer science"
> overkill.  A real toaster (even today) just uses a bimetallic strip as a
> thermostat, to release the pop-up spring and shut off the toaster when
> the temperature reaches a given level.
>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRq_SAuQDec

-- 
Gerry

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#40531

Fromhumptydumpty <ouatubi@gmail.com>
Date2015-07-11 10:32 -0700
Message-ID<fd2a2276-b314-4868-b1b7-188a4bac314d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#40499
On Friday, July 10, 2015 at 8:30:46 PM UTC+3, Jason Damisch wrote:
> How Computer Scientists Would Design a Toaster
> 
> http://www.fiction.net/tidbits/computer/computer_cs_toaster.html
> 
> It has a happy ending
> 
> Jason

Hi!

What a frightening "top-down approach" at the end ...

Have a nice day,
humptydumpty

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#40557

Fromhughaguilar96@gmail.com
Date2015-07-12 19:58 -0700
Message-ID<7f646f9f-af7f-4b8e-b337-ce0b3f48f6ba@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#40499
On Friday, July 10, 2015 at 10:30:46 AM UTC-7, Jason Damisch wrote:
> How Computer Scientists Would Design a Toaster
> 
> http://www.fiction.net/tidbits/computer/computer_cs_toaster.html
> 
> It has a happy ending
> 
> Jason

This reminds me of a cartoon I saw once about how computer scientists would design a child's swing hanging from a tree branch.

The tree has two branches sticking out in opposite directions. They tied one rope to one branch and the other rope to the other branch, so the seat was  leaning against the truck.

The second cartoon showed how the field techs implemented the design at the customer's site. They have propped up each branch with a wooden A-frame, then sawed the trunk removing about 6 feet --- now the child can swing where the trunk used to be --- the tree is suspended in the air by the A-frames.

The third cartoon showed what the customer actually requested --- a single rope tied to a tree branch with an old tire hanging from it.

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#40558

Fromhughaguilar96@gmail.com
Date2015-07-12 20:12 -0700
Message-ID<9707699f-8bda-43bc-8877-7593dfff3aa1@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#40499
On Friday, July 10, 2015 at 10:30:46 AM UTC-7, Jason Damisch wrote:
> How Computer Scientists Would Design a Toaster
> 
> http://www.fiction.net/tidbits/computer/computer_cs_toaster.html
> 
> It has a happy ending
> 
> Jason

It has been said that if airplane technology advanced as fast as computer hardware, we would have been too the Moon 10 years after the Wright Brothers.

Some smart-aleck then said that if airplane technology advanced in the same way as computer software, jet planes would crash 10% of the time and would be used for hauling garbage.

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#40578

FromJason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com>
Date2015-07-13 10:59 -0700
Message-ID<629d343c-bb77-499f-a438-eef2127db2b4@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#40558
On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 8:12:51 PM UTC-7, hughag...@gmail.com wrote:

> Some smart-aleck then said that if airplane technology 
> advanced in the same way as computer software, jet planes 
> would crash 10% of the time and would be used for hauling garbage.

Every super-power has its down side.  

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