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OT: Looking for a programming job in Phoenix, AZ?

Started byRod Pemberton <NeedNotReplyHere@xrsevnneqk.cem>
First post2017-05-21 03:05 -0400
Last post2017-05-26 23:17 -0400
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  OT: Looking for a programming job in Phoenix, AZ? Rod Pemberton <NeedNotReplyHere@xrsevnneqk.cem> - 2017-05-21 03:05 -0400
    Re: OT: Looking for a programming job in Phoenix, AZ? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-21 03:21 -0400
      Re: OT: Looking for a programming job in Phoenix, AZ? Rod Pemberton <NeedNotReplyHere@xrsevnneqk.cem> - 2017-05-22 05:08 -0400
        Re: OT: Looking for a programming job in Phoenix, AZ? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-05-22 10:07 -0700
          Re: OT: Looking for a programming job in Phoenix, AZ? Rod Pemberton <NeedNotReplyHere@xrsevnneqk.cem> - 2017-05-23 02:48 -0400
            Re: OT: Looking for a programming job in Phoenix, AZ? Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2017-05-23 00:50 -0700
              Re: OT: Looking for a programming job in Phoenix, AZ? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-05-24 12:11 -0700
                Re: OT: Looking for a programming job in Phoenix, AZ? lehs <skydda.barnen@gmail.com> - 2017-05-24 13:28 -0700
                  Re: OT: Looking for a programming job in Phoenix, AZ? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-24 16:52 -0400
                    Re: OT: Looking for a programming job in Phoenix, AZ? lehs <skydda.barnen@gmail.com> - 2017-05-24 14:06 -0700
                  Re: OT: Looking for a programming job in Phoenix, AZ? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-05-24 19:02 -0700
                    Re: OT: Looking for a programming job in Phoenix, AZ? lehs <skydda.barnen@gmail.com> - 2017-05-24 21:37 -0700
                      Re: OT: Looking for a programming job in Phoenix, AZ? Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2017-05-25 01:49 -0700
                        Re: OT: Looking for a programming job in Phoenix, AZ? lehs <skydda.barnen@gmail.com> - 2017-05-25 02:08 -0700
                          Re: OT: Looking for a programming job in Phoenix, AZ? Rod Pemberton <NeedNotReplyHere@xrsevnneqk.cem> - 2017-05-25 05:40 -0400
                            Re: OT: Looking for a programming job in Phoenix, AZ? lehs <skydda.barnen@gmail.com> - 2017-05-25 03:01 -0700
                Re: OT: Looking for a programming job in Phoenix, AZ? Rod Pemberton <NeedNotReplyHere@xrsevnneqk.cem> - 2017-05-25 05:41 -0400
                  Re: OT: Looking for a programming job in Phoenix, AZ? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-05-25 13:06 -0400
        Re: OT: Looking for a programming job in Phoenix, AZ? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-05-23 16:44 -0700
          Re: OT: Looking for a programming job in Phoenix, AZ? Rod Pemberton <NeedNotReplyHere@xrsevnneqk.cem> - 2017-05-23 23:39 -0400
            Re: OT: Looking for a programming job in Phoenix, AZ? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-05-24 11:27 -0700
              Re: OT: Looking for a programming job in Phoenix, AZ? Rod Pemberton <NeedNotReplyHere@xrsevnneqk.cem> - 2017-05-25 05:50 -0400
                Re: OT: Looking for a programming job in Phoenix, AZ? Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2017-05-25 03:55 -0700
                  Re: OT: Looking for a programming job in Phoenix, AZ? Rod Pemberton <NeedNotReplyHere@xrsevnneqk.cem> - 2017-05-26 06:25 -0400
                    Re: OT: Looking for a programming job in Phoenix, AZ? Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2017-05-26 05:32 -0700
                      Re: OT: Looking for a programming job in Phoenix, AZ? Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-05-26 14:34 +0100
                      Re: OT: Looking for a programming job in Phoenix, AZ? Rod Pemberton <NeedNotReplyHere@xrsevnneqk.cem> - 2017-05-26 23:17 -0400

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#59784

Fromhughaguilar96@gmail.com
Date2017-05-24 11:27 -0700
Message-ID<6ce5e59f-11a6-4bd4-9999-b3008a051a2a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#59764
On Tuesday, May 23, 2017 at 8:38:36 PM UTC-7, Rod Pemberton wrote:
> On Tue, 23 May 2017 16:44:49 -0700 (PDT)
> hughaguilar96@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> > Why do you want me to go to 515 E Grant St.?
> > What is going to happen to me when I get there? 
> 
> Your life improves?  

A person's life doesn't typically improve in that part of town. If I got murdered though, that would significantly improve the lives of the ANS-Forth enthusiasts. The word "disambiguifier" would never be mentioned again!

All in all, this thread has been very creepy!

It has also been quite puzzling. You couldn't have realistically expected your clumsy lure to actually induce me to go to 515 E. Grant St. and knock on their door asking for a job. So, what did you expect to accomplish with this?

I think that you were trying to hint that you have some connection to the Hells Angels. You didn't want to just come right out and tell me this, so instead you hinted at this indirectly with your goofy encouragement for me to go to an address that is a short distance from their clubhouse and is in an area well known to be under their control. 

I think that you are bluffing. You don't have any connection to the Hells Angels. You are just an internet troll and a stalker --- you spend a lot of time trying to figure out people's home addresses, but you aren't very good at this (you said that my IP address indicated that I live in California, but I don't) --- the Hells Angels would not associate with you because they would consider you to be an over-grown amoeba.

BTW: I noticed that Brian left comp.lang.forth shortly after you posted a satellite photo of his home to post on the comp.lang.forth. I don't know anything about the guy. Would he have been a positive contributor to comp.lang.forth? Well, he couldn't have been any worse that what we have now!

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#59815

FromRod Pemberton <NeedNotReplyHere@xrsevnneqk.cem>
Date2017-05-25 05:50 -0400
Message-ID<20170525055057.7adfae88@_>
In reply to#59784
On Wed, 24 May 2017 11:27:36 -0700 (PDT)
hughaguilar96@gmail.com wrote:

> A person's life doesn't typically improve in that part of town.

Yet, you've indirectly claimed that you managed to enter into (claimed)
gang controlled territory to eat and you survived the (supposed)
hostile presence of the Hells Angels.  Well, look everyone, it's Hugh
the bad-ass.  Since you're such a bad-ass, what did you get locked up
for?  Public urination?  Graffiti?  Keying a car?  Steeling a radio?
You can't be a bad-ass without being locked up, forced into a gang,
and getting tattooed.  What's your gang affiliation OG?

> If I got murdered though,

I'd guess that it was likely your own fault.  Good guess?

Some here might wonder why you stopped posting.  Your family would
care (maybe).  No one here would.  Although, some here might politely
express remorse for the loss of life and say a kind word even if
undeserved, or not.  That's life.

> All in all, this thread has been very creepy!

Well, since you're clearly off your medication or on drugs, and
currently delusional or paranoid, I would wonder why everything you
see isn't creepy in some way.  How do the walls look?  Your lawn?  Dog?
I can't see you as being a cat guy.  You're not compassionate enough.

> You couldn't have realistically expected your clumsy lure to actually
> induce me to go to 515 E. Grant St.

But, how can you turn down free locally sourced coffee?  It's not like
the ground in urban environments isn't contaminated with lead.

> It has also been quite puzzling. ...  So, what did you expect to
> accomplish with this?

This isn't hard to comprehend.  They supposedly rent office space for
tech companies.  There are 48 of them at that location to be exact.
What else would they have, if not jobs?  Do you really think the Hells
Angels started a tech company?  That must really be some expensive
stuff you smoke.  Or, did you manage to piss them off in some way?  Are
they after you?  That's why you're afraid, isn't it?

> I think that you were trying to hint that you have some connection to
> the Hells Angels.

This non-sense is entirely off-the-chandelier.  I provided the website
from which the address came, and you can search for articles yourself
about them, if you're interested in tech companies in Phoenix in any
way.  They have an email address too.  Feel free to ask them about their
supposed gang affiliations, if you think that's appropriate, or why
they bought the building there.  They have a phone number too.  Ask
about your safety in that neighborhood.

contact info
https://www.galvanize.com/phoenix/campus

> Would he have been a positive contributor to comp.lang.forth? 

Do you seriously consider yourself to be a positive contributor here?
In what way exactly, are you a _positive_ contributor?

: POSITIVE NEGATIVE ; IMMEDIATE

Now, that's disambiguified or whatever ...

If you do believe that you're a positive contributor, I'd argue that
you're exceptionally delusional.  No one cares for your rants, or
personal attacks or assaults on others.  Your code is apparently always
useless or broken (according to many others here).

Has your Forth code managed to change or improve Forth in some way?  In
the decade or so I've been here, the answer to that is a solid: "No."
Are you a loser or worthless?  You're still not finished with your
Forth.  Yet, it supposedly only took you a few years to code a Forth at
Testra from scratch.  What is taking you so long?  Is this because you
waste time/life here by harassing and threatening others?

> Well, he couldn't have been any worse that what we have now!

That's ironic.  You're still here.  You're the worst now.

Even Bernd has been quiet for a long time.  He still doesn't understand
that the "Big 3" means General Motors, Ford, and Fiat Chrysler,
though.  Alex is only being mildly "fussy" on occasion.

Also, don't take a vacation in Hawaii.  They probably (still) have a
standing warrant out for your arrest.  That's if you're even allowed to
fly there.


Rod Pemberton
-- 
"Well, many people are really f---ing stupid too.  Should we just adopt
all their standards?" - George Carlin

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#59820

FromRaimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com>
Date2017-05-25 03:55 -0700
Message-ID<6657a150-ab01-435c-8aba-5be68a0dff1b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#59815
I've seen that Phoenix is the least expensive place Galvanize has.
Doing a little math, an $1500 room for 3-13 persons and suppose
it's for a 3 persons, lets say 15 square meters, that's $100/sqm/mo
Just curious, is it cheap?

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#59849

FromRod Pemberton <NeedNotReplyHere@xrsevnneqk.cem>
Date2017-05-26 06:25 -0400
Message-ID<20170526062520.77cf841c@_>
In reply to#59820
On Thu, 25 May 2017 03:55:14 -0700 (PDT)
Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> wrote:

> I've seen that Phoenix is the least expensive place Galvanize has.
> Doing a little math, an $1500 room for 3-13 persons and suppose
> it's for a 3 persons, lets say 15 square meters, that's $100/sqm/mo
> Just curious, is it cheap?

Most cities in the U.S. are not as expensive as New York or San
Francisco.  Even for New York or San Francisco, moving away from the
prime locations just a short distance can dramatically lower prices.

High-end office space runs $20 USD to $40 USD or more per square foot
per month, depending on the city, location, and building quality or
features.  This varies widely throughout the U.S. and even within the
cities.

So, you can figure you'll pay at least $10 USD/sq-ft/mo for basic
office space in most larger U.S. cities, and most likely much more than
that.  $10/sq-ft/mo would be about $107.7/sqm/mo.

While that arbitrary $10 rate seems very reasonable to me, Arizona is
not an expensive state.  That rate might actually be a rather high rate
given the city of Phoenix, Arizona or location within it.  Land costs
in Arizona are just 10% (1/10th) of those in New York state.  And, New
York state land costs are substantially lower than New York city land
costs.

Arizona state ranks quite low on per capita income at 39th (i.e.,
relatively poor state as compared to most of the U.S.).  City of
Phoenix's per capita income is only 60% of the state level (i.e., even
poorer).  The per capita in their suburbs is probably higher than
the state level.  Poverty in Arizona is high, around 17%. Poverty in
Phoenix is very high, around 22%.  Our national average is %13.5. Small
towns in the U.S. which are very rural and extremely poor are around
23%.  So, you have the largest city in the state with a poverty level
comparable to a small town 1/200th of the size.  Arizona is basically
known as a state where people live when retired, i.e., for the
temperature and weather.

Since landlords usually charge double what one would expect to pay, my
guess is that rate is expensive for the area.  If you want to know
their local prices, you need to find a realtor that handles commercial
real estate for the local area.


Rod Pemberton
-- 
"Well, many people are really f---ing stupid too.  Should we just adopt
all their standards?" - George Carlin

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#59857

FromRaimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com>
Date2017-05-26 05:32 -0700
Message-ID<4a95fc1a-60e2-471f-838a-42898e3756bf@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#59849
Thank you for your long answer.
Their open office aproach is not new I suppose, but until now I didn't
see such a thing for different companies together. One company alone in an
open office, yes.
It seems americans are very social people :-)

Anyway, my bussiness is much more practical, they seem to want
"cloud" bussinesses, web development, etc. You take your laptop with
you and that's it. I would need probably an entire desk only for me 
and my equipments... Oh, and I would have to take them home at the end
of the day... LOL

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#59867

FromAlex <alex@rivadpm.com>
Date2017-05-26 14:34 +0100
Message-ID<og9aml$k0h$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#59857
On 5/26/2017 13:32, Raimond Dragomir wrote:
> Thank you for your long answer.
> Their open office aproach is not new I suppose, but until now I didn't
> see such a thing for different companies together. One company alone in an
> open office, yes.
> It seems americans are very social people :-)
> 
> Anyway, my bussiness is much more practical, they seem to want
> "cloud" bussinesses, web development, etc. You take your laptop with
> you and that's it. I would need probably an entire desk only for me
> and my equipments... Oh, and I would have to take them home at the end
> of the day... LOL
> 
> 

Coffee.

-- 
Alex

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#59888

FromRod Pemberton <NeedNotReplyHere@xrsevnneqk.cem>
Date2017-05-26 23:17 -0400
Message-ID<20170526231717.4834ada1@_>
In reply to#59857
On Fri, 26 May 2017 05:32:44 -0700 (PDT)
Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> wrote:

> Anyway, my bussiness is much more practical, they seem to want
> "cloud" bussinesses, web development, etc. You take your laptop with
> you and that's it. I would need probably an entire desk only for me 
> and my equipments... Oh, and I would have to take them home at the end
> of the day... LOL

Weld a hand truck to server rack.  That's the device with wheels you
use to move refrigerators etc.  It'd be similar to luggage with wheels,
but bigger. Do you think I'm joking?  Simple. Cheap. Easy.

Even easier, musicians have horizontal racks with wheels on them for
easy setup at concerts.  Musical rack mount equipment is the same size
as for computer equipment such as servers.  The only difference is
their cases can be horizontal instead of vertical, and sometimes they
have wheels.  Some are shorter.  Those are easier to roll around.  Find
yourself a good musician supply shop or catalog that carries musician
audio equipment.

E.g., Google found a website called Musician's Friend.  They have a
couple listed as "rackmount cases with wheels."  I would probably search
for other websites.  Sweetwater lists them as "Portable Rack Cases"
either "w/Casters" or "w/Wheels".  The "w/" is shorthand for "with".
They have lots of portable rack mount cases on their website.

https://www.sweetwater.com


Rod Pemberton
-- 
"Well, many people are really f---ing stupid too.  Should we just adopt
all their standards?" - George Carlin

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