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  Literature from C. H. Ting Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2016-05-16 12:47 -0500
    Re: Literature from C. H. Ting Rod Pemberton <NoHaveNotOne@bcczxcfre.cmm> - 2016-05-16 17:38 -0400
      Re: Literature from C. H. Ting Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2016-05-16 17:14 -0500
      Re: Literature from C. H. Ting Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2016-05-16 20:51 -0500
        Re: Literature from C. H. Ting Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-05-16 19:39 -0700
          Re: Literature from C. H. Ting Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2016-05-16 23:39 -0500
            Re: Literature from C. H. Ting Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-05-16 23:11 -0700
        Re: Literature from C. H. Ting Rod Pemberton <NoHaveNotOne@bcczxcfre.cmm> - 2016-05-17 05:33 -0400
          Re: Literature from C. H. Ting Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2016-05-17 04:55 -0500
    Re: Literature from C. H. Ting visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2016-05-16 18:51 -0700
      Re: Literature from C. H. Ting Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2016-05-16 21:26 -0500

#47209 — Literature from C. H. Ting

Dr Ting had some literature for sale on his website on how various Forth 
system worked, I'm particularly interested on eForth.

Since now his website is gone and he doesn't intend to bring up the 
business again, is there some arrangement being made to either someone 
else sell the literature or make it available to the public?

I own a domain www.forthlang.org it's not currently in use so if need be 
I can volunteer to host the data, or even sell the data on commission 
for whomever owns the rights.

I been getting back lately back into Forth and it is a shame that so 
many sites that had Forth documents are now gone, I been thinking of 
storing documentation there from old sites to help keep the history, and 
documentation alive, but then there are all sorts of copyright issues to 
deal with so I'm not sure how viable the project would be.
-- 
Cecil - k5nwa

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#47218

On Mon, 16 May 2016 12:47:41 -0500
Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> wrote:

> Dr Ting had some literature for sale on his website on how various
> Forth system worked, I'm particularly interested on eForth.
> 
> Since now his website is gone and he doesn't intend to bring up the 
> business again, is there some arrangement being made to either
> someone else sell the literature or make it available to the public?
> 
> I own a domain www.forthlang.org it's not currently in use so if need
> be I can volunteer to host the data, or even sell the data on
> commission for whomever owns the rights.
> 
> I been getting back lately back into Forth and it is a shame that so 
> many sites that had Forth documents are now gone, I been thinking of 
> storing documentation there from old sites to help keep the history,
> and documentation alive, but then there are all sorts of copyright
> issues to deal with so I'm not sure how viable the project would be.

Do you mean Offete?  Wayback Archive has it archived.  What is missing?

http://web.archive.org/web/20071026103628/http://www.offete.com/


Rod Pemberton

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#47223

On 5/16/2016 4:38 PM, Rod Pemberton wrote:
> On Mon, 16 May 2016 12:47:41 -0500
> Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> wrote:
>
>> Dr Ting had some literature for sale on his website on how various
>> Forth system worked, I'm particularly interested on eForth.
>>
>> Since now his website is gone and he doesn't intend to bring up the
>> business again, is there some arrangement being made to either
>> someone else sell the literature or make it available to the public?
>>
>> I own a domain www.forthlang.org it's not currently in use so if need
>> be I can volunteer to host the data, or even sell the data on
>> commission for whomever owns the rights.
>>
>> I been getting back lately back into Forth and it is a shame that so
>> many sites that had Forth documents are now gone, I been thinking of
>> storing documentation there from old sites to help keep the history,
>> and documentation alive, but then there are all sorts of copyright
>> issues to deal with so I'm not sure how viable the project would be.
>
> Do you mean Offete?  Wayback Archive has it archived.  What is missing?
>
> http://web.archive.org/web/20071026103628/http://www.offete.com/
>
>
> Rod Pemberton
>
What is missing is that those products were not free so the website had 
no access to them, once purchased you would receive a link to download 
the item. No website to buy means no link to download.

-- 
Cecil - k5nwa

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#47230

On 5/16/2016 4:38 PM, Rod Pemberton wrote:
> On Mon, 16 May 2016 12:47:41 -0500
> Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> wrote:
>
>> Dr Ting had some literature for sale on his website on how various
>> Forth system worked, I'm particularly interested on eForth.
>>
>> Since now his website is gone and he doesn't intend to bring up the
>> business again, is there some arrangement being made to either
>> someone else sell the literature or make it available to the public?
>>
>> I own a domain www.forthlang.org it's not currently in use so if need
>> be I can volunteer to host the data, or even sell the data on
>> commission for whomever owns the rights.
>>
>> I been getting back lately back into Forth and it is a shame that so
>> many sites that had Forth documents are now gone, I been thinking of
>> storing documentation there from old sites to help keep the history,
>> and documentation alive, but then there are all sorts of copyright
>> issues to deal with so I'm not sure how viable the project would be.
>
> Do you mean Offete?  Wayback Archive has it archived.  What is missing?
>
> http://web.archive.org/web/20071026103628/http://www.offete.com/
>
>
> Rod Pemberton
>
I went to the link and was able to find a couple of useful pages and 
documentation but a lot is missing. But I found some to the articles I 
want at the UltraTechnology web site. They have some of the manuals I 
was interested in for sale there.

http://www.ultratechnology.com/offete.html

-- 
Cecil - k5nwa

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#47232

Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> writes:
> at the UltraTechnology web site. They have some of the manuals I
> was interested in for sale there.

Sadly, UltraTechnology was Jeff Fox's site, and we lost him a few years
ago.

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#47235

On 5/16/2016 9:39 PM, Paul Rubin wrote:
> Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> writes:
>> at the UltraTechnology web site. They have some of the manuals I
>> was interested in for sale there.
>
> Sadly, UltraTechnology was Jeff Fox's site, and we lost him a few years
> ago.
>
I wondered about that, I knew he dies some time back, so it's sitting 
there with no one in charge, he must have paid up in advance for the 
hosting of the site. I know on my sites I pay for two years at a time so 
I get a big discount.

Sad some many sites are gone or have bad links, so much information lost.

-- 
Cecil - k5nwa

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#47236

Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> writes:
>> UltraTechnology was Jeff Fox's site
> I knew he dies some time back, so it's sitting there with no one in
> charge, he must have paid up in advance for the hosting of the site.

I think someone else is looking after it now, not updating it, but
making sure the existing content stays available.

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#47243

On Mon, 16 May 2016 20:51:59 -0500
Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> wrote:

> On 5/16/2016 4:38 PM, Rod Pemberton wrote:
> > On Mon, 16 May 2016 12:47:41 -0500
> > Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> wrote:

> >> Dr Ting had some literature for sale on his website on how various
> >> Forth system worked, I'm particularly interested on eForth.
> >>
> >> Since now his website is gone and he doesn't intend to bring up the
> >> business again, is there some arrangement being made to either
> >> someone else sell the literature or make it available to the
> >> public?
> >>
> >> I own a domain www.forthlang.org it's not currently in use so if
> >> need be I can volunteer to host the data, or even sell the data on
> >> commission for whomever owns the rights.
> >>
> >> I been getting back lately back into Forth and it is a shame that
> >> so many sites that had Forth documents are now gone, I been
> >> thinking of storing documentation there from old sites to help
> >> keep the history, and documentation alive, but then there are all
> >> sorts of copyright issues to deal with so I'm not sure how viable
> >> the project would be.  
> >
> > Do you mean Offete?  Wayback Archive has it archived.  What is
> > missing?
> >
> > http://web.archive.org/web/20071026103628/http://www.offete.com/
> >
> I went to the link and was able to find a couple of useful pages and 
> documentation but a lot is missing. But I found some to the articles
> I want at the UltraTechnology web site. They have some of the manuals
> I was interested in for sale there.
> 
> http://www.ultratechnology.com/offete.html
> 

I'm not sure about all of that stuff, but some of it is out there.


Bill Muench's eForths are available from Muench's website.  C.H. Ting's
eForth variants are generally available too.  Tom Zimmer's F-PC, TCOM,
Win32Forth and others are available in DOS and Forth archives.

Bill Muench websites via Wayback
http://web.archive.org/web/20150816231946/http://www.calcentral.com/~forth/forth/
http://web.archive.org/web/20070406042128/http://www.baymoon.com/~bimu/forth/

Various eForth's via Forth.org
http://www.forth.org/eforth.html

Other Forths via Taygeta, including those by Tom Zimmer and other
eForth variants
https://www.taygeta.com/forthcomp.html

Tom Zimmer blogs
http://tomzimmer.blogspot.com/
https://photobubba.com/


Rod Pemberton

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#47245

On 5/17/2016 4:33 AM, Rod Pemberton wrote:
> On Mon, 16 May 2016 20:51:59 -0500
> Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> wrote:
>
>> On 5/16/2016 4:38 PM, Rod Pemberton wrote:
>>> On Mon, 16 May 2016 12:47:41 -0500
>>> Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> wrote:
>
>>>> Dr Ting had some literature for sale on his website on how various
>>>> Forth system worked, I'm particularly interested on eForth.
>>>>
>>>> Since now his website is gone and he doesn't intend to bring up the
>>>> business again, is there some arrangement being made to either
>>>> someone else sell the literature or make it available to the
>>>> public?
>>>>
>>>> I own a domain www.forthlang.org it's not currently in use so if
>>>> need be I can volunteer to host the data, or even sell the data on
>>>> commission for whomever owns the rights.
>>>>
>>>> I been getting back lately back into Forth and it is a shame that
>>>> so many sites that had Forth documents are now gone, I been
>>>> thinking of storing documentation there from old sites to help
>>>> keep the history, and documentation alive, but then there are all
>>>> sorts of copyright issues to deal with so I'm not sure how viable
>>>> the project would be.
>>>
>>> Do you mean Offete?  Wayback Archive has it archived.  What is
>>> missing?
>>>
>>> http://web.archive.org/web/20071026103628/http://www.offete.com/
>>>
>> I went to the link and was able to find a couple of useful pages and
>> documentation but a lot is missing. But I found some to the articles
>> I want at the UltraTechnology web site. They have some of the manuals
>> I was interested in for sale there.
>>
>> http://www.ultratechnology.com/offete.html
>>
>
> I'm not sure about all of that stuff, but some of it is out there.
>
>
> Bill Muench's eForths are available from Muench's website.  C.H. Ting's
> eForth variants are generally available too.  Tom Zimmer's F-PC, TCOM,
> Win32Forth and others are available in DOS and Forth archives.
>
> Bill Muench websites via Wayback
> http://web.archive.org/web/20150816231946/http://www.calcentral.com/~forth/forth/
> http://web.archive.org/web/20070406042128/http://www.baymoon.com/~bimu/forth/
>
> Various eForth's via Forth.org
> http://www.forth.org/eforth.html
>
> Other Forths via Taygeta, including those by Tom Zimmer and other
> eForth variants
> https://www.taygeta.com/forthcomp.html
>
> Tom Zimmer blogs
> http://tomzimmer.blogspot.com/
> https://photobubba.com/
>
>
> Rod Pemberton
>
Thanks, I'll be very busy tomorrow looking up the links. It's 5:00AM and 
I'm sitting here instead of going to bed, tomorrow is already here.


-- 
Cecil - k5nwa

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#47229

On Monday, May 16, 2016 at 1:47:43 PM UTC-4, Cecil - k5nwa wrote:
> Dr Ting had some literature for sale on his website on how various Forth 
> system worked, I'm particularly interested on eForth.
> 
> Since now his website is gone and he doesn't intend to bring up the 
> business again, is there some arrangement being made to either someone 
> else sell the literature or make it available to the public?
> 
> I own a domain www.forthlang.org it's not currently in use so if need be 
> I can volunteer to host the data, or even sell the data on commission 
> for whomever owns the rights.
> 
> I been getting back lately back into Forth and it is a shame that so 
> many sites that had Forth documents are now gone, I been thinking of 
> storing documentation there from old sites to help keep the history, and 
> documentation alive, but then there are all sorts of copyright issues to 
> deal with so I'm not sure how viable the project would be.
> -- 
> Cecil - k5nwa

There is a website www.forth-lang.org - are these related?

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#47231

On 5/16/2016 8:51 PM, visualforth@rocketmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, May 16, 2016 at 1:47:43 PM UTC-4, Cecil - k5nwa wrote:
>> Dr Ting had some literature for sale on his website on how various Forth
>> system worked, I'm particularly interested on eForth.
>>
>> Since now his website is gone and he doesn't intend to bring up the
>> business again, is there some arrangement being made to either someone
>> else sell the literature or make it available to the public?
>>
>> I own a domain www.forthlang.org it's not currently in use so if need be
>> I can volunteer to host the data, or even sell the data on commission
>> for whomever owns the rights.
>>
>> I been getting back lately back into Forth and it is a shame that so
>> many sites that had Forth documents are now gone, I been thinking of
>> storing documentation there from old sites to help keep the history, and
>> documentation alive, but then there are all sorts of copyright issues to
>> deal with so I'm not sure how viable the project would be.
>> --
>> Cecil - k5nwa
>
> There is a website www.forth-lang.org - are these related?
>
I don't think so, the site you mentioned gets re-directed to 
theforth.net which contains some packages for Forth. Funny I own 
www.forthlang.org but so far I'm doing nothing with it but I will in the 
future.

-- 
Cecil - k5nwa

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