Re: How efficient are locals? How portable?

From	"Rod Pemberton" <bork@lllljunkqwer.cpm>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.forth
Subject	Re: How efficient are locals? How portable?
Date	2015-04-26 23:04 -0400
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On Sun, 26 Apr 2015 18:08:36 -0400, <hughaguilar96@gmail.com> wrote:

[Hey, I wrapped your lines for you.]

> On a related matter, I consider TO to be a mistake in itself. In my
> language, I will get rid of VALUE (formally known as ITEM) as useless
> cruft. It doesn't provide any functionality that wasn't already
> available with variables; it actually provides less functionality
> because it is limited to cell-size variables and it doesn't allow the
> address to be passed around or used in calculations. I will also make
> local variables provide their address, so they can be accessed with !
> and @ getting rid of TO there also. The local variables will be big
> enough, so they can store either single-cell or double-cell values or
> floats (they don't have to be declared to be of any type, like in the
> overly-complicated Forth-200x system).

Then, your Forth won't be useful or ANS.  If it's not ANS, who is going
to use it?  If it's not useful, won't they decide to forgo it's use too?
ISTM, that no one will use it except for you.  Is that acceptable to you?
If not, what then is your reason for coding yet another Forth that no one
is going to use?   It won't replace gForth.  You'll refuse to sell it,
like VFX.  You'll come to hate that your name is associated with it, like
Bernd.  My advice is that you stop where you currently are: at the planning
and rambling thought stage.  You've been talking about this for almost a
decade with no action on your end, so far.  I can't see how this will ever
be a win-win for you.  Since you know Forth and claim you've implemented
a Forth, you'd probably learn more by attempting to implement a C compiler.

Seriously, Hugh, do you think about what you write prior to posting it?
It seems like I'm always commenting on the logic failures in your chaotic
ramblings, yet you make no attempt to improve.

> I remember when TO was first introduced in "Forth Dimensions" in the
> late 1980s. It originally worked with CONSTANT values. I thought it was
> a dumb idea then too --- people treat Forth like a science-fair project,
> coming up with these goofy extensions, but they have little or no
> interest in writing programs in Forth so they don't care if any of these
> extensions have any practical value or not.

Aren't you placing the blame on the wrong people or person?  What about
Forth allows people to "[come] up with these goofy extensions" in the
first place?  Isn't it the lack of syntax in Forth, the lack of language
structure, the one thing about Forth that is *praised* by just about
everyone here?  If Forth was C, just what "goofy extensions" would be
allowed in Forth?  You regularly criticize Anton Ertl for using C to
implement Forth, but then you turn around and describe numerous ways
to capture the essence of C as Forth, or it's implementation.  It's this
that I recognize as a contradiction.

> [...] Alex's howling and gnashing of teeth [...]

Did you just call Alex a hell hound?  ...

Rod Pemberton

-- 
Cars kill more people than guns in the U.S.
Yet, no one is trying to take away your car.

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How efficient are locals? How portable? lehs <skydda.barnen@gmail.com> - 2015-04-11 01:16 -0700
  Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-04-11 15:56 +0000
    Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? lehs <skydda.barnen@gmail.com> - 2015-04-11 15:48 -0700
      Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-04-11 17:43 -0700
      Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2015-04-14 18:40 +1000
      Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? empty-buffers <empty.buffersYOU-DONT-WANT-THIS@gmail.NEITHER-THIS.com> - 2015-04-22 19:23 +0000
        Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? lehs <skydda.barnen@gmail.com> - 2015-04-22 13:28 -0700
          Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? empty-buffers <empty.buffersYOU-DONT-WANT-THIS@gmail.NEITHER-THIS.com> - 2015-04-22 22:29 +0000
            Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? lehs <skydda.barnen@gmail.com> - 2015-04-22 16:01 -0700
              Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? empty-buffers <empty.buffersYOU-DONT-WANT-THIS@gmail.NEITHER-THIS.com> - 2015-04-22 23:20 +0000
                Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? lehs <skydda.barnen@gmail.com> - 2015-04-23 00:28 -0700
                Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? lehs <skydda.barnen@gmail.com> - 2015-04-23 02:30 -0700
                Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-04-23 09:57 +0000
                Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2015-04-23 11:28 +0000
                Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? Doug Hoffman <glidedog@gmail.com> - 2015-04-23 09:31 -0400
                Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-04-23 13:32 +0000
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                Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? lehs <skydda.barnen@gmail.com> - 2015-04-23 11:12 -0700
                Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2015-04-23 22:44 +0200
                Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? lehs <skydda.barnen@gmail.com> - 2015-04-23 23:24 -0700
                Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-04-24 09:21 +0000
                Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2015-04-24 11:44 +0000
                Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? lehs <skydda.barnen@gmail.com> - 2015-04-24 08:35 -0700
                Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-04-24 15:40 +0000
                Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? mhx@iae.nl - 2015-04-24 10:28 -0700
                Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-04-24 17:43 +0000
                Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? mhx@iae.nl - 2015-04-24 22:44 -0700
                Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? empty-buffers <empty.buffersYOU-DONT-WANT-THIS@gmail.NEITHER-THIS.com> - 2015-04-24 15:00 +0000
                Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-24 09:07 -0700
                Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-04-23 07:30 -0700
                Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? Doug Hoffman <glidedog@gmail.com> - 2015-04-23 11:02 -0400
                Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-04-23 16:30 +0100
                Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-04-23 09:38 -0700
                Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-04-24 15:57 +0100
                Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? empty-buffers <empty.buffersYOU-DONT-WANT-THIS@gmail.NEITHER-THIS.com> - 2015-04-24 15:14 +0000
            Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-04-23 06:58 -0400
              Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2015-04-23 14:47 +0200
              Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-04-23 08:34 -1000
  Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-04-13 12:32 +0000
    Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-04-13 21:57 -0400
      Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-13 19:25 -0700
      Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-04-14 01:43 -0700
        Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-04-14 01:45 -0700
          Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-04-14 10:12 -0700
            Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-04-14 13:09 -0700
        Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? lehs <skydda.barnen@gmail.com> - 2015-04-15 14:18 -0700
          Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-04-15 22:13 -0700
            Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? lehs <skydda.barnen@gmail.com> - 2015-04-15 23:14 -0700
          Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-04-16 01:12 -0700
            Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-04-16 01:23 -0700
            Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-04-16 14:28 -0400
              Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-04-16 14:37 -0400
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      Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-04-14 14:53 +0000
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      Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-04-16 12:22 +0000
        Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? lehs <skydda.barnen@gmail.com> - 2015-04-16 08:32 -0700
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                Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2015-04-17 20:46 +0000
                Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-04-18 06:54 +0000
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                Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-04-18 22:14 -0700
                Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2015-04-19 08:46 +0000
                Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? Doug Hoffman <glidedog@gmail.com> - 2015-04-19 06:04 -0400
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                Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-04-19 16:48 -0700
                Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-04-20 09:51 +0000
                Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? Doug Hoffman <glidedog@gmail.com> - 2015-04-20 06:27 -0400
                Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2015-04-20 13:04 +0000
                Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-04-20 14:09 +0000
                Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? Doug Hoffman <glidedog@gmail.com> - 2015-04-21 07:17 -0400
                Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2015-04-21 16:50 +0000
                Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? Doug Hoffman <glidedog@gmail.com> - 2015-04-21 16:35 -0400
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                Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? Doug Hoffman <glidedog@gmail.com> - 2015-04-22 06:23 -0400
                Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-04-21 17:18 +0000
                Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? Doug Hoffman <glidedog@gmail.com> - 2015-04-21 16:38 -0400
                Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-04-22 10:12 +0000
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              Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-04-17 02:37 -0700
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              Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-04-17 09:38 -0700
                Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-04-17 21:25 +0100
            Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2015-04-18 07:51 +0000
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                Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-04-19 09:58 -0700
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                Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-04-19 19:42 +0000
                Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-04-19 13:49 -0700
                Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-04-20 09:39 +0000
                Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? Doug Hoffman <glidedog@gmail.com> - 2015-04-19 17:59 -0400
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                Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-04-20 08:52 -0700
                Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-04-20 18:04 +0100
                Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-04-20 19:05 +0100
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                Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-04-24 22:03 +0100
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                Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? mhx@iae.nl - 2015-04-29 10:14 -0700
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                Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? "Rod Pemberton" <bork@lllljunkqwer.cpm> - 2015-04-26 23:04 -0400
                Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-04-26 20:51 -0700
                Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-04-27 09:38 +0000
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                Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? "Rod Pemberton" <bork@lllljunkqwer.cpm> - 2015-04-28 03:19 -0400
                Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-04-27 12:33 +0100
                Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-04-27 23:31 -0700
                Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-04-28 08:07 +0100
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        Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? lehs <skydda.barnen@gmail.com> - 2015-04-17 13:44 -0700
          Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2015-04-18 00:31 +0200
          Re: How efficient are locals? How portable? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-04-18 14:22 +0000
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