Re: who really use Forth ?

From	"Rod Pemberton" <too@zxcvfeqad.cdm>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.forth
Subject	Re: who really use Forth ?
Date	2015-11-02 02:32 -0500
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On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 06:57:05 -0400, WJ <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Pablo Hugo Reda wrote:

>> handwrite recognition, octree rendering, wireframe rendering all
>> only with integer operations (or fixed point), not garbage colector,
>
> By failing to use the computer's floating-point processor, you have
> made the programs run much more slowly.
>
> That wasn't smart.

Now, wait a minute.

That depends on what machine.  Even on early x86 they used integers
instead of floats for faster programs, especially accounting and
fast graphics.

> In addition, it took longer to write the programs, and the software
> is harder to maintain.
>
> That wasn't smart.

Now, wait a minute.

Floating point has many issues which can be difficult to resolve.
AFAIR, floating point is only natively supported on the x86 platform.
So, floating point is not portable.  That means each implementation
of floating point is different and therfore floating point can be
harder to maintain.

> I hope that nobody was so foolish as to pay you for doing that.
>
> Not having a garbage collector makes the code more difficult to
> write, increasing the amount of programmer time required, and
> increasing the likelihood of bugs.  I hope that nobody paid you
> to work so inefficiently.
>

Now, wait a minute.

A garbage collector is usually only used for interpreted languages,
but not for Forth.  Except for Jacob Navia implementing a garbage
collector for C, specifically LCC-Win32, I doubt you'll find a
high-level language with one in it.

Rod Pemberton

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who really use Forth ? François <francois.ganza@wanadoo.fr> - 2015-10-30 16:12 -0700
  Re: who really use Forth ? lehs <skydda.barnen@gmail.com> - 2015-10-30 16:27 -0700
    Re: who really use Forth ? François <francois.ganza@wanadoo.fr> - 2015-10-30 16:53 -0700
      Re: who really use Forth ? lehs <skydda.barnen@gmail.com> - 2015-10-31 09:16 -0700
        Re: who really use Forth ? François <francois.ganza@wanadoo.fr> - 2015-10-31 12:49 -0700
  Re: who really use Forth ? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-10-31 01:27 +0100
  Re: who really use Forth ? "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-31 00:26 +0000
    Re: who really use Forth ? "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-31 10:46 +0000
      Re: who really use Forth ? "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-18 01:35 +0000
  Re: who really use Forth ? Pablo Hugo Reda <pabloreda@gmail.com> - 2015-10-30 18:34 -0700
    Re: who really use Forth ? "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-31 10:57 +0000
      Re: who really use Forth ? François <francois.ganza@wanadoo.fr> - 2015-10-31 13:13 -0700
        Re: who really use Forth ? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-10-31 17:22 -0400
      Re: who really use Forth ? "Rod Pemberton" <too@zxcvfeqad.cdm> - 2015-11-02 02:32 -0500
        Re: who really use Forth ? Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> - 2015-11-02 09:04 +0100
  Re: who really use Forth ? "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-10-30 18:35 -1000
  Re: who really use Forth ? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-10-31 02:51 -0400
  Re: who really use Forth ? Chris Curl <ccurl609@gmail.com> - 2015-10-30 23:52 -0700
  Re: who really use Forth ? François <francois.ganza@wanadoo.fr> - 2015-10-31 00:04 -0700
    Re: who really use Forth ? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-10-31 03:16 -0400
    Re: who really use Forth ? Pablo Hugo Reda <pabloreda@gmail.com> - 2015-10-31 06:00 -0700
    Re: who really use Forth ? Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2015-10-31 08:35 -0500
      Re: who really use Forth ? François <francois.ganza@wanadoo.fr> - 2015-10-31 13:08 -0700
      Re: who really use Forth ? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-31 13:40 -0700
        Re: who really use Forth ? François <francois.ganza@wanadoo.fr> - 2015-10-31 13:55 -0700
    Re: who really use Forth ? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-10-31 14:10 -0700
      Re: who really use Forth ? "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-01 11:15 +0000
        Re: who really use Forth ? Alfred Singlestone <vitonis@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 05:37 -0800
          Re: who really use Forth ? Chris Curl <ccurl609@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 05:59 -0800
  Re: who really use Forth ? stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-10-31 10:17 +0000
    Re: who really use Forth ? stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-10-31 16:53 +0000
  Re: who really use Forth ? Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2015-10-31 14:04 -0700
    Re: who really use Forth ? Roelf Toxopeus <rt4all@notthis.hetnet.nl> - 2015-11-02 10:57 +0100
  Re: who really use Forth ? lehs <skydda.barnen@gmail.com> - 2015-10-31 21:23 -0700
  Re: who really use Forth ? François <francois.ganza@wanadoo.fr> - 2015-11-02 06:05 -0800
    Re: who really use Forth ? Chris Curl <ccurl609@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 07:43 -0800
    Re: who really use Forth ? Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 08:02 -0800
  Re: who really use Forth ? Chris Curl <ccurl609@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 08:53 -0800
    Re: who really use Forth ? Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 09:05 -0800
      Re: who really use Forth ? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-11-02 09:48 -0800
      Re: who really use Forth ? "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-11-02 08:11 -1000
  Re: who really use Forth ? Chris Curl <ccurl609@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 10:39 -0800
    Re: who really use Forth ? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-11-02 16:37 -0800
      Re: who really use Forth ? Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 22:59 -0800
        Re: who really use Forth ? "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-11-02 21:16 -1000
          Re: who really use Forth ? stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-11-03 11:04 +0000
            Re: who really use Forth ? "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-11-03 08:17 -1000
              Re: who really use Forth ? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-11-03 18:20 -0800
                Re: who really use Forth ? François <francois.ganza@wanadoo.fr> - 2015-11-03 22:26 -0800
                Re: who really use Forth ? lehs <skydda.barnen@gmail.com> - 2015-11-03 23:21 -0800
              Re: who really use Forth ? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-11-04 09:33 +0000
          Re: who really use Forth ? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-11-03 11:07 +0000
            Re: who really use Forth ? Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-11-03 03:23 -0800
              Re: who really use Forth ? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-11-03 22:24 +0100
        Re: who really use Forth ? Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-11-03 01:35 -0800
        Re: who really use Forth ? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-11-03 11:18 -0500
        Re: who really use Forth ? "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-04 00:07 +0000
        Re: who really use Forth ? Alfred Singlestone <vitonis@gmail.com> - 2015-11-03 17:01 -0800
  Re: who really use Forth ? Chris Curl <ccurl609@gmail.com> - 2015-11-03 10:59 -0800
    Re: who really use Forth ? "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-11-03 10:00 -1000
      Re: who really use Forth ? Chris Curl <ccurl609@gmail.com> - 2015-11-03 13:31 -0800

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