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Re: Open source CPU+open source toolchain

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From "Rod Pemberton" <boo@fasdfrewar.cdm>
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Subject Re: Open source CPU+open source toolchain
Date Thu, 30 Jul 2015 22:05:05 -0400
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On Thu, 30 Jul 2015 21:56:55 -0400, Elizabeth D. Rather <erather@forth.com> wrote:

> On 7/30/15 8:22 PM, Rod Pemberton wrote:
>> On Thu, 30 Jul 2015 01:40:11 -0400, rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> wrote:

>>> Not intending to rain on anyone's parade, just asking a question.
>>
>> So, you're willing to reign on the people's parade? ...  ;-)
>>
>>> Why does the forth community care if the FPGA development tools are
>>> open source?
>>
>> No ...  It's not open source that the Forth community wants.  It's free.
>> Not "free" as in "free" beer like open-source software, but "free" as
>> in truly free.  No cost.  No money.  No license.  No encumbrances.
>>
>> Why?  Because, that's the way the Forth community has always done it.
>> Historically, they never copyrighted anything and gave everything they
>> created away for free.
>>
>> You don't have to believe me.  Go look for yourself.
>
> "Always done it"? FORTH, Inc was founded in 1973. FIG didn't come along
> until 1977-8, largely inspired by the success of FORTH, Inc. (figFORTH
> was based on FORTH, Inc.'s microFORTH, which was introduced in 1977). In
> the 1980's, there was a thriving market in commercial Forths, with a
> number of vendors producing products of varying quality, including MPE.
> MPE and FORTH, Inc. are the only remaining commercial vendors, but our
> roots go way back.
>

Yes, but, unfortunately, those are insignificant percentage of the
overall Forth community over time.  fig-Forth took over.  fig-Forth
code and interpreters are still working to this day.  Most of the
commercial programs from 1970's and 1980's disappeared when their
companies went bankrupt.


RP

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  Re: Open source CPU+open source toolchain rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-07-30 01:40 -0400
    Re: Open source CPU+open source toolchain foxaudioresearch@gmail.com - 2015-07-30 07:11 -0700
    Re: Open source CPU+open source toolchain Jecel <jecel@merlintec.com> - 2015-07-30 09:39 -0700
    Re: Open source CPU+open source toolchain "Rod Pemberton" <boo@fasdfrewar.cdm> - 2015-07-30 21:22 -0400
      Re: Open source CPU+open source toolchain "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-07-30 20:56 -0500
        Re: Open source CPU+open source toolchain "Rod Pemberton" <boo@fasdfrewar.cdm> - 2015-07-30 22:05 -0400
          Re: Open source CPU+open source toolchain "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-07-31 09:47 -0500
            Re: Open source CPU+open source toolchain "Rod Pemberton" <boo@fasdfrewar.cdm> - 2015-07-31 23:57 -0400
              Re: Open source CPU+open source toolchain anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-08-01 13:07 +0000
              Re: Open source CPU+open source toolchain "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-08-01 10:37 -0500
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    Re: Open source CPU+open source toolchain foxaudioresearch@gmail.com - 2015-08-02 07:55 -0700
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              Re: Open source CPU+open source toolchain rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 18:24 -0400
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