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From "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnohavenotit.cnm>
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Subject Re: Hayes tester fails
Date Wed, 15 Jan 2014 02:40:28 -0500
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On Tue, 14 Jan 2014 18:29:25 -0500, Ed <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
> Anton Ertl wrote:
>> "Ed" <invalid@invalid.com> writes:

>>> which will obviously show a positive outcome?
>>
>> What do you mean by that?
>
> What is says.  You ask proposers to supply the tests and the cases to be  
> tested and you are expecting something other than a successful result?
> This is no test but a fait accompli.

I think you've assumed too much.

A test may be successful by design for one group of proposers, and even
another or another, but not necessarily succeed for some others.  That
could indicate an issue with 1) the implementation 2) the test or
3) undefined boundary conditions (etc).

When implementing some of my "sanity" tests, I ran into differences in
boundary issues in a number of Forths.  Did that mean a Forth was incorrect
or my test?  I assumed the latter, although it could've been that Forth.
If the issue is with the Forth, the author should have some way to
encourage him/her/them to ask whether the behavior is correct or not.
A set of tests can do that.


Rod Pemberton

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Hayes tester fails "Ed" <invalid@invalid.com> - 2014-01-08 02:20 +1100
  Re: Hayes tester fails "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2014-01-07 21:15 +0000
  Re: Hayes tester fails "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2014-01-07 21:20 +0000
  Re: Hayes tester fails anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-01-08 14:58 +0000
    Re: Hayes tester fails "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnohavenotit.cnm> - 2014-01-08 19:53 -0500
    Re: Hayes tester fails "Ed" <invalid@invalid.com> - 2014-01-09 21:49 +1100
      Re: Hayes tester fails anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-01-09 12:57 +0000
        Re: Hayes tester fails "Ed" <invalid@invalid.com> - 2014-01-11 16:06 +1100
          Re: Hayes tester fails "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnohavenotit.cnm> - 2014-01-11 10:28 -0500
          Re: Hayes tester fails anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-01-13 16:18 +0000
            Re: Hayes tester fails "Ed" <invalid@invalid.com> - 2014-01-15 10:29 +1100
              Re: Hayes tester fails "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2014-01-15 00:00 +0000
                Re: Hayes tester fails AKK <akk@nospam.org> - 2014-01-15 02:06 +0100
                Re: Hayes tester fails "Ed" <invalid@invalid.com> - 2014-01-19 01:33 +1100
                Re: Hayes tester fails anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-01-18 16:58 +0000
                Re: Hayes tester fails "Ed" <invalid@invalid.com> - 2014-01-21 00:09 +1100
                Re: Hayes tester fails "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2014-01-20 14:36 +0000
                Re: Hayes tester fails "Ed" <invalid@invalid.com> - 2014-01-25 22:53 +1100
                Re: Hayes tester fails "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2014-01-25 23:21 +0000
                Re: Hayes tester fails anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-01-21 14:50 +0000
              Re: Hayes tester fails "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnohavenotit.cnm> - 2014-01-15 02:40 -0500
                Re: Hayes tester fails "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-01-14 21:52 -1000
                Re: Hayes tester fails "Ed" <invalid@invalid.com> - 2014-01-19 00:10 +1100
              Re: Hayes tester fails Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2014-01-15 03:28 -0600
      Re: Hayes tester fails "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnohavenotit.cnm> - 2014-01-11 10:30 -0500
        Re: Hayes tester fails "Ed" <invalid@invalid.com> - 2014-01-13 10:45 +1100
  Re: Hayes tester fails Howerd <howerdo@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-01-09 02:51 -0800
    Re: Hayes tester fails "Ed" <invalid@invalid.com> - 2014-01-09 22:12 +1100
      Re: Hayes tester fails Howerd <howerdo@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-01-09 06:44 -0800
        Re: Hayes tester fails "Ed" <invalid@invalid.com> - 2014-01-11 16:14 +1100
          Re: Hayes tester fails Howerd <howerdo@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-01-11 02:35 -0800
          Re: Hayes tester fails Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2014-01-11 13:46 +0100
            Re: Hayes tester fails "Ed" <invalid@invalid.com> - 2014-01-13 11:16 +1100

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