Re: Make Forth Great Again!

From	Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.forth
Subject	Re: Make Forth Great Again!
Date	2017-03-10 13:59 -0600
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On 3/10/2017 3:10 AM, Wolf Wejgaard wrote:
> Am Mittwoch, 15. Februar 2017 22:47:18 UTC+1 schrieb djc:
>> In the 70ies, Forth was absolute top, leading edge, lots of features and capabilities missing elsewhere, such as
>> * self compiling
>> * multitasking
>> * interpreter AND compiler
>> * vectored I/O
>> * create-does to give user data types a behaviour
>> * fast AND small
>> * internal DSLs (domain specific languages)
>>
>> Now today, other languages have taken the technical lead, Haskell, Ruby etc. These keep impressing people with Lambdas, Closures, modifiable class memberships, effective protection mechanisms etc.
>>
>> Ok, so back to the drawing board and bringing up crazy new capabilities which no other language can do...
>>
>> That is not about copy-catting features like lambdas and closures (some attempts were seen here), but bringing in novelty.
>>
>> Why not have easy defining and training words for neural net elements? Why not use the multitasker for a pulsed and parallel neural net? Why not come up with something totally crazy and unseen?
>>
>>    Daniel
>
> You might enjoy a look at holonforth.com/holon86.html - Crazy and still unseen, it seems, just a great way of programming Forth since 1990. Direct action, immediate responses, clear presentation of the project source. Holon86 rips away the classical white blanket with its reassuring "ok" and shows you what lurks below: a great under-explored database known as the dictionary. You have source text browser and code directly accessible without resorting to incantations like LOCATE. And forget about files, the source is included in the DB like the code. A complete IDE. Unbelievably efficient!
>
> HOLON86 is on Github. - You can study its source in HOST86, a Holon86 project that creates (new) versions of Holon86.
>
> But it is not ANS.
> So what?
>
> Wolf Wejgaard
>
>
HolonForth has a very nice IDE, I like how it keeps the Source in pieces 
that one can easily browse through it easily.

I want to make sure I got it right on Git is the various Holon Forth 
versions with its source so one could modify it and create a totally new 
version? I would be interested in using it to port to a new CPU if the 
source to Holon86 is complete and one could generate a new version for a 
different CPU.
-- 
Cecil - k5nwa

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Make Forth Great Again! djc <ciesinger@gmx.net> - 2017-02-15 13:47 -0800
  Re: Make Forth Great Again! Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-02-15 22:34 +0000
  Re: Make Forth Great Again! "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2017-02-15 13:11 -1000
    Re: Make Forth Great Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-02-17 10:54 -0800
      Re: Make Forth Great Again! Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-02-17 13:09 -0600
        Re: Make Forth Great Again! minforth@arcor.de - 2017-02-17 13:55 -0800
          Re: Make Forth Great Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-02-17 16:37 -0800
    Re: Make Forth Great Again! "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2017-02-18 11:54 +1100
      Re: Make Forth Great Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-02-17 18:19 -0800
        Re: Make Forth Great Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-02-17 19:27 -0800
    Re: Make Forth Great Again! gavino himself <jackvanc3@gmail.com> - 2017-03-14 05:06 -0700
  Re: Make Forth Great Again! Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2017-02-15 15:51 -0800
    Re: Make Forth Great Again! Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-15 15:56 -0800
      Re: Make Forth Great Again! Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2017-02-15 16:14 -0800
        Re: Make Forth Great Again! lehs <skydda.barnen@gmail.com> - 2017-02-16 02:03 -0800
          Re: Make Forth Great Again! minforth@arcor.de - 2017-02-16 02:55 -0800
          Re: Make Forth Great Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-02-17 10:25 -0800
            Re: Make Forth Great Again! Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-02-17 12:55 -0600
              Re: Make Forth Great Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-02-17 11:31 -0800
                Re: Make Forth Great Again! hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2017-02-17 16:32 -0800
              Re: Make Forth Great Again! rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 16:09 -0500
                Re: Make Forth Great Again! Rod Pemberton <NeedNotReplyHere@xrsevnneqk.cem> - 2017-02-17 19:39 -0500
      Re: Make Forth Great Again! minforth@arcor.de - 2017-02-16 01:00 -0800
  Re: Make Forth Great Again! Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-02-16 06:21 -0600
    Re: Make Forth Great Again! john <anon@example.com> - 2017-02-16 15:45 +0000
      Re: Make Forth Great Again! Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-02-16 10:12 -0600
        Re: Make Forth Great Again! Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-02-16 16:36 +0000
          Re: Make Forth Great Again! Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2017-02-16 12:03 -0600
            Re: Make Forth Great Again! john <anon@example.com> - 2017-02-16 23:08 +0000
            Re: Make Forth Great Again! gavino himself <jackvanc3@gmail.com> - 2017-03-14 05:08 -0700
  Re: Make Forth Great Again! Whammo <sidciavic@gmail.com> - 2017-02-16 08:14 -0800
  Re: Make Forth Great Again! Igor Maznitsa <rrg4400@gmail.com> - 2017-02-16 13:43 -0800
    Re: Make Forth Great Again! Elliott Chapin <elliott.chapin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 07:26 -0800
  Re: Make Forth Great Again! mentificium@gmail.com - 2017-02-16 15:22 -0800
  Re: Make Forth Great Again! Brad Eckert <hwfwguy@gmail.com> - 2017-03-03 13:31 -0800
  Re: Make Forth Great Again! Wolf Wejgaard <wejgaard@holonforth.com> - 2017-03-10 01:10 -0800
    Re: Make Forth Great Again! JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com> - 2017-03-10 09:33 -0800
      Re: Make Forth Great Again! Wolf Wejgaard <wejgaard@holonforth.com> - 2017-03-12 09:00 -0700
        Re: Make Forth Great Again! stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2017-03-12 20:50 +0000
        Re: Make Forth Great Again! rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-03-12 19:19 -0400
    Re: Make Forth Great Again! Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2017-03-10 13:59 -0600
      Re: Make Forth Great Again! Wolf Wejgaard <wejgaard@holonforth.com> - 2017-03-11 01:14 -0800
  Re: Make Forth Great Again! polymorph self <jackvanc3@gmail.com> - 2017-03-10 14:20 -0800

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