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Re: Jazelle?

From rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.sys.raspberry-pi, comp.lang.forth
Subject Re: Jazelle?
Date 2016-07-22 09:05 -0400
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <nmt5md$e56$1@dont-email.me> (permalink)
References (8 earlier) <nmq8vk$b52$1@dont-email.me> <2016Jul21.144416@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <nmrgjd$p6b$1@dont-email.me> <2016Jul22.084236@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <nmsuhg$lq6$1@dont-email.me>

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On 7/22/2016 7:03 AM, gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 wrote:
> "Anton Ertl" <anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> wrote in message
> news:2016Jul22.084236@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at...
>>
>> Programming in Forth has the following advantages over programming in
>> assembly language:
>
>
> But programming in Forth _IS_ programming in assembly languge, a simulation
> of the assembly language of the English Electric KDF9 which was published as
> prior art when Forth was first conceived.

It is clear that you don't know much about Forth.  You are zeroed in on 
the fact that the language appears to emulate a stack machine.  It is 
also odd that you are solely focused on the KDF9 which is a machine that 
Chuck Moore is unlikely to have ever seen while the Burroughs B5500 was 
a machine he specifically talks about.

http://worrydream.com/refs/Moore%20-%20Forth%20-%20The%20Early%20Years.pdf

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burroughs_large_systems

http://www.forth.org/fd/FD-V01N6.pdf

https://uwaterloo.ca/independent-studies/sites/ca.independent-studies/files/uploads/files/eric_laforest_thesis.pdf

This last one is particularly interesting in that it specifically says 
there is *no* connection between Moore's work on Forth and the KDF9 or


> As to the characteristics that you listed, all apply equally well to a
> number
> of other interpreted environments such as Python and TCL.

Yes, so you agree Forth is not assembly language?

-- 

Rick C

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Re: Jazelle? "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-07-20 10:31 +0100
  Re: Jazelle? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-07-20 10:14 +0000
    Re: Jazelle? Chris Curl <ccurl609@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 05:37 -0700
      Re: Jazelle? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-07-20 13:36 +0000
    Re: Jazelle? "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-20 13:06 +0000
    Re: Jazelle? "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-07-20 14:49 +0100
      Re: Jazelle? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-07-20 08:48 -0700
      Re: Jazelle? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-07-20 14:35 +0000
        Re: Jazelle? mm0fmf <none@invalid.com> - 2016-07-20 17:39 +0100
        Re: Jazelle? "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-07-20 20:30 +0100
          Re: Jazelle? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 15:35 -0400
            Re: Jazelle? mhx@iae.nl - 2016-07-20 13:27 -0700
              Re: Jazelle? "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-21 09:41 +0000
            Re: Jazelle? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-07-21 17:24 -0700
        Re: Jazelle? "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-21 10:43 +0000
          Re: Jazelle? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-07-21 12:44 +0000
            Re: Jazelle? "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-07-21 22:59 +0100
              Re: Jazelle? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-07-22 06:42 +0000
                Re: Jazelle? "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-07-22 12:03 +0100
                Re: Jazelle? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 09:05 -0400
                Re: Jazelle? Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2016-07-22 10:09 -0500
                Re: Jazelle? Tauno Voipio <tauno.voipio@notused.fi.invalid> - 2016-07-22 19:20 +0300
                Re: Jazelle? Brad Eckert <hwfwguy@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 09:35 -0700
          Re: Jazelle? "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-25 10:43 +0000
            Re: Jazelle? "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-07-26 11:41 +0100
              Re: Jazelle? Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 04:26 -0700
                Re: Jazelle? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 11:20 -0400
  Re: Jazelle? Doug Hoffman <glidedog@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 06:44 -0400
    Re: Jazelle? "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-07-20 14:52 +0100
      Re: Jazelle? "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-20 14:33 +0000
      Re: Jazelle? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 10:52 -0400
        Re: Jazelle? alister <alister.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2016-07-20 15:40 +0000
          Re: Jazelle? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 11:46 -0400
          Re: Jazelle? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-07-20 09:25 -0700
    Re: Jazelle? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-07-20 09:22 -0700
      Re: Jazelle? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 13:14 -0400
        Re: Jazelle? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-07-20 21:44 -0700
          Re: Jazelle? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-21 01:32 -0400
            Re: Jazelle? Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2016-07-21 02:21 -0500
          Re: Jazelle? Brad Eckert <hwfwguy@gmail.com> - 2016-07-21 17:13 -0700
            Re: Jazelle? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-07-21 17:42 -0700
            Re: Jazelle? humptydumpty <ouatubi@gmail.com> - 2016-07-23 10:08 -0700
              Re: Jazelle? hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-07-23 13:55 -0700
                Re: Jazelle? humptydumpty <ouatubi@gmail.com> - 2016-07-24 02:22 -0700
  Re: Jazelle? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 10:56 -0400
  Re: Jazelle? Brad Eckert <hwfwguy@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 10:54 -0700
    Re: Jazelle? Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2016-07-20 13:33 -0500
      Re: Jazelle? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 16:51 -0400
        Re: Jazelle? Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2016-07-20 17:09 -0500
          Re: Jazelle? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 18:12 -0400
            Re: Jazelle? Cecil Bayona <cbayona@cbayona.com> - 2016-07-20 18:41 -0500
              Re: Jazelle? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 21:01 -0400

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