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Re: can forth do an in memory multi machien data base?

From rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.forth
Subject Re: can forth do an in memory multi machien data base?
Date 2015-08-07 13:08 -0400
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On 8/7/2015 12:10 AM, Rod Pemberton wrote:
> On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 21:28:10 -0400, rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 8/5/2015 8:44 PM, Rod Pemberton wrote:
>>> On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 12:25:30 -0400, rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 8/5/2015 3:53 AM, Mark Wills wrote:
>>>>> On Wednesday, 5 August 2015 08:23:16 UTC+1, polymorph self  wrote:
>>>>>> On Friday, July 31, 2015 at 3:42:00 PM UTC-4, rickman wrote:
>>>>>>> On 7/31/2015 2:13 PM, Jason Damisch wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 4:38:11 PM UTC-7, polymorph self
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>>> check youtube for thorium atomic power, its the answer to all
>>>>>>>>> energy needs,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [link]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> About 6:40
>>>>>>>> "they had to have something that was so slick,
>>>>>>>>    that was so safe, that was so simple"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm 14 minutes into the video and I still haven't seen an
>>>>>>> explanation of
>>>>>>> it.  My concerns are not just for the inherent safety of operating a
>>>>>>> reactor without creating a disaster.  The real problem with nuclear
>>>>>>> power is the generation of waste products.  Interesting also is
>>>>>>> that the
>>>>>>> video is about a molten salt reactor, but not a thorium salt
>>>>>>> reactor...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "As only two liquid-core fluoride salt reactors have been built (the
>>>>>>> ORNL ARE and MSRE) and neither have used thorium, it is hard to
>>>>>>> validate
>>>>>>> the exact benefits.[4]As only two liquid-core fluoride salt reactors
>>>>>>> have been built (the ORNL ARE and MSRE) and neither have used
>>>>>>> thorium,
>>>>>>> it is hard to validate the exact benefits.[4]"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [link]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> [link]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> oil and wind and other bullshit are obsolete
>>>>>>
>>>>>> separate seawater into ox n hyd using atomic and runfuel cells that
>>>>>> output water
>>>>>>
>>>>>> capitalism if unregulated woulda had this long ago
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the reactor shuts itself down if problem, unliek dangerous high
>>>>>> pressure ones now
>>>>>>
>>>>>> india and china are making them, USA needs to de regulate and get
>>>>>> this going
>>>>>>
>>>>>> get hacks like obama and geither away from the wheel
>>>>>
>>>>> Yep. Molten salt reators are inherently "safe" requiring no human
>>>>> intervention to prevent a meltdown. I spent a while about a year
>>>>> ago watching numerous videos and presentations about MSR and I must
>>>>> admit that it did convince me to the point that I thought someone
>>>>> should just go ahead and build one.
>>>>>
>>>>> And that's exactly what China is doing right now.
>>>>>
>>>>> US helping China to build MSR:
>>>>> [link]
>>>>>
>>>>> Chinese going for broke on thorium nuclear power:
>>>>> [link]
>>>>>
>>>>> Lots of coverage of this on the internet. Just do a google.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Thorium genie is now well and truly out of the bottle.
>>>>
>>>> And what does China do with the nuclear waste?
>>>> Perhaps we can send ours to let them dispose of?
>>>>
>>>
>>> With all the food contamination and other scandals from China,
>>> do you seriously have to ask?
>>>
>>> E.g., pulled from the Internet, the Chinese supposedly have:
>>>
>>> sold noodles made with pond water used to wash feet and clothes,
>>> sold meat injected with brine from bacteria infested pond water,
>>> sold fake condoms,
>>> sold fake sanitary napkins which were poisonous,
>>> sold fake cooking oil made from sewer waste,
>>> sold drinking straws contaminated with soluble poisons,
>>> sold meat from domestic cats as rabbit meat,
>>> sold meat from rats, minks, foxes as lamb,
>>> sold imported meat from the 1980's which had thawed and rotted,
>>> sold rice contaminated with cadmium,
>>> sold milk contaminated with melamine,
>>> sold toothpaste contaminated with melamine,
>>> sold dog food with an unknown poison lethal to dogs,
>>> sold fake chocolates contaminated with insects or moths,
>>> sold numerous products contaminated with lead paint,
>>> counterfeited anything and everything,
>>> etc.
>>>
>>> While some of that may be internet myths and lies, all of it
>>> can't be.  The list goes on and on and is too overwhelming.
>>> So, using history as a guide, i.e., former Soviet republics
>>> that sold radioactive furniture, and the fact that there is
>>> no rule of law in China, they'll likely mix it with something
>>> and sell it ... to you and others.  They'll give it to their
>>> uneducated and unprotected citizens, in a recycling city,
>>> perhaps Guiyu, who'll likely mix it with scrap metal, recycle
>>> the metal, make furniture or children's swing sets out of
>>> the metal, and then sell the radioactive product.  They seem
>>> to like selling radioactive products to France ... according
>>> to the internet.
>>>
>>> Don't forget, there have been numerous metal products found
>>> to contain Cobalt-60, which is only made in nuclear reactors,
>>> i.e., most likely waste sourced from Russia ...
>>
>> Wow!  I thought our resident madman was someone else...
>>
>
> Said the guy who wants China to take our nuclear waste ...
> Everyone knows it's the Italians who take hazardous waste
> and bury it illegally for profit, i.e., the triangle of death.
>
>
> For those of you who don't know what I was talking
> about in my prior post of this one, here are links to
> Wikipedia pages on the issues:
>
> Triangolo della morte  (Italian triangle of death)
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triangle_of_death_(Italy)
>
> Food safety incidents in China  (36 major incidents)
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_safety_incidents_in_China
>
> Chinese milk scandal 2008
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Chinese_milk_scandal
>
> Illegal cooking oil made from sewer waste
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gutter_oil
>
> Radioactive scrap metal
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radioactive_scrap_metal
>
> Cobalt-60  (scrap metal contamination under "Safety")
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cobalt-60
>
> Guiyu, Guandong  (e-waste city)
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guiyu_%28town%29
>
> Ferrero Rocher wins legal battle against
> counterfeit chocolatier from China 2010
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-557869/Chocolate-giant-Ferrero-wins-year-battle-Chinese-counterfeiters.html
>
>
> And, of course, Youtube has numerous videos of "Ferrero
> Rocher" chocolates, which are actually counterfeit Chinese
> chocolates, infested with maggots, insects, and worms ...
>
>
> Rod Pemberton

Clearly we have found a hot button...

-- 

Rick

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can forth do an in memory multi machien data base? polymorph self <jackvanc3@gmail.com> - 2015-07-24 22:59 -0700
  Re: can forth do an in memory multi machien data base? Jason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-25 09:12 -0700
  Re: can forth do an in memory multi machien data base? Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-07-27 00:46 -0700
    Re: can forth do an in memory multi machien data base? polymorph self <jackvanc3@gmail.com> - 2015-07-27 22:47 -0700
      Re: can forth do an in memory multi machien data base? Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-07-28 01:14 -0700
        Re: can forth do an in memory multi machien data base? polymorph self <jackvanc3@gmail.com> - 2015-07-30 16:26 -0700
      Re: can forth do an in memory multi machien data base? Jason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-28 10:36 -0700
        Re: can forth do an in memory multi machien data base? polymorph self <jackvanc3@gmail.com> - 2015-07-30 12:34 -0700
          Re: can forth do an in memory multi machien data base? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-07-30 17:33 -0400
            Re: can forth do an in memory multi machien data base? polymorph self <jackvanc3@gmail.com> - 2015-07-30 16:38 -0700
              Re: can forth do an in memory multi machien data base? Jason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-31 11:13 -0700
                Re: can forth do an in memory multi machien data base? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-07-31 15:41 -0400
                Re: can forth do an in memory multi machien data base? polymorph self <jackvanc3@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 00:23 -0700
                Re: can forth do an in memory multi machien data base? Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 00:53 -0700
                Re: can forth do an in memory multi machien data base? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 12:25 -0400
                Re: can forth do an in memory multi machien data base? "Rod Pemberton" <boo@fasdfrewar.cdm> - 2015-08-05 20:44 -0400
                Re: can forth do an in memory multi machien data base? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 21:28 -0400
                Re: can forth do an in memory multi machien data base? "Rod Pemberton" <boo@fasdfrewar.cdm> - 2015-08-07 00:10 -0400
                Re: can forth do an in memory multi machien data base? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 13:08 -0400
                Re: can forth do an in memory multi machien data base? "Rod Pemberton" <boo@fasdfrewar.cdm> - 2015-08-08 13:54 -0400
                Re: can forth do an in memory multi machien data base? polymorph self <jackvanc3@gmail.com> - 2015-08-20 22:52 -0700
                Re: can forth do an in memory multi machien data base? "Rod Pemberton" <boo@fasdfrewar.cdm> - 2015-08-21 06:55 -0400
                Re: can forth do an in memory multi machien data base? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-21 09:25 -0400
                Re: can forth do an in memory multi machien data base? Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 00:38 -0700
                Re: can forth do an in memory multi machien data base? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 13:12 -0400
                Re: can forth do an in memory multi machien data base? Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-08-07 16:40 -0700
                Re: can forth do an in memory multi machien data base? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-08-21 09:18 -0400
                Re: can forth do an in memory multi machien data base? polymorph self <jackvanc3@gmail.com> - 2015-08-06 22:09 -0700
                Re: can forth do an in memory multi machien data base? djc <ciesinger@gmx.net> - 2015-08-07 08:59 -0700
  Re: can forth do an in memory multi machien data base? Jason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-21 12:33 -0700

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