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Re: C.H.I.P - The World's First Nine Dollar Computer - Forth not mentioned. Another chance or already lost?

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On 6/7/2015 10:49 PM, Paul Rubin wrote:
> rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> writes:
>> On 5/13/2015 5:07 PM, Paul Rubin wrote:
>>> The pi has an HDMI port but I wonder how many people actually use it.  I
>>> don't even own any standalone monitors,
>
>> How many rPis do you have?  None?  I rest my case.
>
> No rPis but I do have a Beaglebone Black.
>
>> The vast majority of rPi purchases are by those who are *learning*
>> about computers, much like the Arduino.
>
> Well specifically (in the case of the Arduino, and I think also of the
> rPi though that's more questionable) about hardware control, i.e. doing
> things with the gpio pins rather than just computing stuff.
>
>> The big advantage of the rPi is that you can connect a TV, a keyboard
>> and a mouse making it the development system as well as the target.
>> That was the intended market and they have done extremely well with
>> it.
>
> But, if all you want is computation, web browsing, etc., for about the
> same expenditure as an Rpi with keyboard, mouse, monitor/tv, etc. you
> can get a cheap laptop that's much more useful (portable,
> self-contained, faster, has mass storage).

Not sure what you are referring to.  Both the rPi and any laptop you can 
get for $100 is pretty much pointless for web surfing.  Maybe the new 
rPi 2 will do better, but browsers don't do well on low end hardware.  I 
don't know of any laptops you can get for anywhere near that price.


>>>     https://www.fitvps.com/members/cart.php?a=confproduct&i=0
>> Really?  Renting a pi?  It is the size of a deck of cards.  The cables
>> take up more space.
>
> Well the rental cost is also for the network connection and hosting,
> plus it pays off the hardware cost at the other end.

Yes, this is absurdly expensive for what you can have 100% for well 
under $100.  And as you said yourself, an rPi is mostly about what you 
can connect to it.


>> If you have a TV,
>
> My family had one when I was a kid and I remember watching Star Trek on
> it, but I've never personally owned one.
>
>> Uh, you would pay for storage of your own rPi?  Heck, I will work on
>> this a bit and let you use mine for free.
>
> Thanks!  I might take you up on that at some point.

You'll need to figure out how to find the way past my modem and router. 
  But otherwise I'm happy to share.


>> But if you can use it remotely, why do you need it at all?  Can't you
>> write the software for *any* linux box and have it work where you
>> want?
>
> Compatibility testing, benchmarks, that sort of thing.  Also in the case
> of the fitvps or colo hosting, it's a way to have a small and very cheap
> dedicated server, which has some advantages over a VPS since nobody else
> is on the machine.

If you say so.  I have been using mine as a remote access point for a TI 
MCU board.  The TI board plugs into the rPi USB and I SSH into it from 
my PC in the other room where it is more comfortable.  To learn how to 
control it, I connected an HC-05 Bluetooth module via a USB serial port 
on the rPi.  But the durn thing gives fits and does all sorts of flaky 
stuff.  I may have to go right off the PC to get it to work at all.

-- 

Rick

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C.H.I.P - The World's First Nine Dollar Computer - Forth not mentioned. Another chance or already lost? visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2015-05-12 17:50 -0700
  Re: C.H.I.P - The World's First Nine Dollar Computer - Forth not mentioned. Another chance or already lost? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-05-12 19:20 -0700
  Re: C.H.I.P - The World's First Nine Dollar Computer - Forth not mentioned. Another chance or already lost? Julian Fondren <ayrnieu@gmail.com> - 2015-05-12 19:48 -0700
    Re: C.H.I.P - The World's First Nine Dollar Computer - Forth not mentioned. Another chance or already lost? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-05-12 21:44 -0700
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        Re: C.H.I.P - The World's First Nine Dollar Computer - Forth not mentioned. Another chance or already lost? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-05-13 17:23 -0400
          Re: C.H.I.P - The World's First Nine Dollar Computer - Forth not mentioned. Another chance or already lost? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-06-07 19:49 -0700
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