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Re: Umm...help?

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Elizabeth D. Rather wrote:
> SEE shows what is compiled; in interpreted Forths, that's pointers to
> the words that comprise a definition. For Forths that generate machine
> code, that's only displayable as a disassembly. Use LOCATE to see the
> source. A system that doesn't have either is, IMO, below the "usability"
> standard.

How good compiled systems do SEE depends on the effort the implementer made.  
bigForth's SEE usually can reconstruct the source code; the peephole 
optimizer is relatively easy to revert.  SwiftForth should be able to do the 
same (the native code compiler of SwiftForth is not that complicated), VFX 
and iForth with their analytical compilers create code that is not that easy 
to decompile.

-- 
Bernd Paysan
"If you want it done right, you have to do it yourself"
http://bernd-paysan.de/

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Umm...help? David J <skamolex@gmail.com> - 2014-04-29 18:46 -0700
  Re: Umm...help? Julian Fondren <ayrnieu@gmail.com> - 2014-04-29 19:32 -0700
    Re: Umm...help? albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-04-30 10:21 +0000
      Re: Umm...help? David J <skamolex@gmail.com> - 2014-05-01 15:39 -0700
        Re: Umm...help? Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2014-05-02 10:13 +0200
        Re: Umm...help? Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2014-05-02 02:06 -0700
          Re: Umm...help? David J <skamolex@gmail.com> - 2014-05-08 16:04 -0700
          Re: Umm...help? David J <skamolex@gmail.com> - 2014-05-08 16:10 -0700
            Re: Umm...help? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-05-09 14:18 -0400
              Re: Umm...help? David J <skamolex@gmail.com> - 2014-05-19 14:20 -0700
  Re: Umm...help? "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-04-29 16:51 -1000
    Re: Umm...help? David J <skamolex@gmail.com> - 2014-04-29 20:03 -0700
      Re: Umm...help? "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-04-29 17:41 -1000
        Re: Umm...help? David J <skamolex@gmail.com> - 2014-05-01 15:29 -0700
  Re: Umm...help? David J <skamolex@gmail.com> - 2014-04-29 19:51 -0700
  Re: Umm...help? stephenXXX@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2014-04-30 08:49 +0000
    Re: Umm...help? David J <skamolex@gmail.com> - 2014-05-01 15:32 -0700
      Re: Umm...help? stephenXXX@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2014-05-02 09:03 +0000
      Re: Umm...help? Torfinn Ingolfsen <tingo@home.no> - 2014-05-02 13:33 +0200
        Re: Umm...help? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2014-05-04 15:11 -0400
          Re: Umm...help? David J <skamolex@gmail.com> - 2014-05-08 16:15 -0700
        Re: Umm...help? David J <skamolex@gmail.com> - 2014-05-08 16:11 -0700
  Re: Umm...help? David Hume <David.Hume@example.com> - 2014-05-04 20:35 +0100
    Re: Umm...help? "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-05-04 12:47 -1000
      Re: Umm...help? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2014-05-05 01:59 +0200
        Re: Umm...help? "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-05-04 15:05 -1000
          Re: Umm...help? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2014-05-05 13:06 +0200
            Re: Umm...help? "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-05-05 08:07 -1000
              SEE (was: Umm...help?) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-05-06 16:30 +0000
                Re: SEE "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-05-06 09:24 -1000
                Re: SEE Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2014-05-06 21:53 +0200
                no more ASS cracks? (was Re: SEE) all2001@spambog.com (Wolfgang Allinger) - 2014-05-06 19:48 -0400
                Re: SEE anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2014-05-10 17:11 +0000
            Re: Umm...help? Assad Ebrahim <assad.ebrahim@alum.swarthmore.edu> - 2014-05-10 15:47 +0100
              Re: Umm...help? Assad Ebrahim <assad.ebrahim@alum.swarthmore.edu> - 2014-05-10 16:06 +0100

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