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"Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> wrote in message
news:f97ed3c4-f52f-4aaa-b64c-75fbf8ff4095@o8g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
> On Oct 6, 3:03 pm, "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_h...@notemailnotz.cmm>
> wrote:
...

> > > As a software engineer, [...]
> >
> > We've been over this before. There is no such thing as a software
> > engineer.  You're misusing the term "engineer". The engineering
> > college of a university grants engineering degrees, including
> > electrical and mechanical engineering. The liberal science and arts
> > college of a university grants science degrees, including mathematics
> > and computer science. Programming is part of the LSA college
> > degree program. Engineers must be licensed by the state for every
> > engineering field or work under a licensed engineer. Are you licensed
> > by the state? Is your immediate manager? If you answered
> > "No." to both, then you're not an engineer.
>
> The company I work for invests heavily in software engineers; over
> four thousand of them. That's how they describe themselves, what we
> call them and what the wider software industry calls them. We don't
> advertise for programmers, but for software engineers.
>

In most states, it's illegal to claim you're an engineer when you're not.
It's generally a part of the State licensing laws of engineers.  Check your
State's laws.

> As to your division of university colleges, how does that make a
> difference?

The college determines which degree you can earn.  Engineering degrees come
from the engineering college at a university.  That explanation reiterated
what was already said by me and is still quoted above.  Please read before
replying.

> See again the job advert; "A Bachelor of Science Degree in
> Electrical Engineering or Computer Science, a Master Degree, or a
> PhD". Doesn't say anything about "LSA".

Mathematics and physics majors have been known to become programmers too.
So, you should probably allow those degrees too...

It says a Computer Science degree is one of the degrees accepted for the
job.  That's an LSA degree.  It's not an engineering degree.  Someone with a
CS, cannot validly claim to be an engineer.  It may be illegal too.  As for
an MD or PHD, it depends on the degree.  Can they all do the job?  Probably,
but only one is formally trained in programming.


Rod Pemberton

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STATEless Forths Brad Eckert <hwfwguy@gmail.com> - 2012-10-03 13:15 -0700
  Re: STATEless Forths Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2012-10-03 15:32 -0700
  Re: STATEless Forths Hugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> - 2012-10-03 17:56 -0700
  Re: STATEless Forths Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2012-10-03 18:11 -0700
  Re: STATEless Forths anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-10-04 13:10 +0000
    Re: STATEless Forths Hugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> - 2012-10-04 14:17 -0700
  Re: STATEless Forths "Charles Childers" <crc@retroforth.org> - 2012-10-04 09:44 -0400
  Re: STATEless Forths Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2012-10-04 10:56 -0500
    Re: STATEless Forths Hugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> - 2012-10-04 14:33 -0700
      Re: STATEless Forths John Passaniti <john.passaniti@gmail.com> - 2012-10-06 10:21 -0700
        Re: STATEless Forths "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@notemailnotz.cmm> - 2012-10-06 18:06 -0400
          Re: STATEless Forths Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2012-10-06 16:05 -0700
            Re: STATEless Forths "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2012-10-06 13:56 -1000
              Re: STATEless Forths Hugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> - 2012-10-06 18:48 -0700
          Re: STATEless Forths Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2012-10-07 04:21 -0700
            Re: STATEless Forths "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@notemailnotz.cnm> - 2012-10-07 19:07 -0400
              Re: STATEless Forths "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2012-10-07 13:42 -1000
                Re: STATEless Forths Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2012-10-08 02:29 -0700
              Re: STATEless Forths Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2012-10-08 02:41 -0700
          Re: STATEless Forths Brad Eckert <hwfwguy@gmail.com> - 2012-10-08 08:18 -0700
          Re: STATEless Forths John Passaniti <john.passaniti@gmail.com> - 2012-10-08 16:11 -0700
            Re: STATEless Forths Mark Wills <forthfreak@gmail.com> - 2012-10-09 02:09 -0700
              Re: STATEless Forths Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2012-10-09 04:39 -0700
                Re: STATEless Forths Mark Wills <forthfreak@gmail.com> - 2012-10-09 05:13 -0700
                Re: STATEless Forths Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2012-10-09 05:37 -0700
              Re: STATEless Forths John Passaniti <john.passaniti@gmail.com> - 2012-10-09 11:59 -0700
                Re: STATEless Forths Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2012-10-09 12:31 -0700
                Re: STATEless Forths "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2012-10-09 09:45 -1000
                Re: STATEless Forths "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@notemailnotz.cnm> - 2012-10-10 04:00 -0400
              Re: STATEless Forths mhx@iae.nl (Marcel Hendrix) - 2012-10-09 21:07 +0200
                Re: STATEless Forths Hugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> - 2012-10-10 19:09 -0700
            Re: STATEless Forths Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2012-10-09 16:44 +0200
              Re: STATEless Forths John Passaniti <john.passaniti@gmail.com> - 2012-10-09 12:13 -0700
            Re: STATEless Forths Brad Eckert <hwfwguy@gmail.com> - 2012-10-09 12:03 -0700
              Re: STATEless Forths John Passaniti <john.passaniti@gmail.com> - 2012-10-09 12:22 -0700
            Re: STATEless Forths "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@notemailnotz.cnm> - 2012-10-10 03:53 -0400

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