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Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories

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Paul Rubin wrote:

> Paul E Bennett <Paul_E.Bennett@topmail.co.uk> writes:
>> I never used the shadow screen approach, preferring instead to include
>> enough comments within the source code itself (that way the comments
>> never got parted from the code).
> 
> Was that still with 16x64 screens?  Did it get in the way of having
> enough code on the screen to see what you were doing?  Did you have a
> way to interact with the interpreter while still having code on the
> screen?

I have tended to use a more vertical style than most and it was not unusual 
for me to have just one or two definitions per screen. Yes, it was the usual 
16*64 block. Sometimes the comments would occupy half a block with just a 
three line definition. Sometimes I would include defining an essential 
constant or variable within the same block.

I planned projects out using a number of triads to hold the essential 
conceptual lexicon I needed. With n THRU-USING and n LOAD-USING I could 
bring in components from other blocks (I have only ever used the blocks in 
files between leaving tape storage until I switched to files proper more 
recently).

I embedded a few useful tools into my development environment that enabled 
me to keep track of what I was doing at all times. It is usually easier to 
concentrate on one thing at a time but when you needed to focus on more than 
that the added tools helped.

With files the modus operandi has had to change a bit.  Now I have my 
development base on one half of the screen and the editor on the other half. 
Had to ditch the tools that were useful with blocks when switching over to 
files.

I have posted code here in both styles of layout (having converted the 
blocks to a plain text file first). I am sure a bit of time with Google will 
find it.

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blocks and screens, tell your war stories Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-01-08 11:08 -0800
  Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-01-08 12:35 -1000
    Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories empty-buffers <empty.buffersYOU-DONT-WANT-THIS@gmail.NEITHER-THIS.com> - 2015-01-08 23:24 +0000
      Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-01-08 15:36 -0800
        Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-01-08 16:42 -1000
          Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-01-08 22:55 -0800
            Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-01-08 21:12 -1000
              Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-01-08 23:27 -0800
                Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-01-08 21:41 -1000
                Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-01-09 02:21 -0800
                Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-01-09 09:21 -1000
                Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-01-09 13:07 -0800
                Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-01-09 11:46 -1000
                Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories empty-buffers <empty.buffersYOU-DONT-WANT-THIS@gmail.NEITHER-THIS.com> - 2015-01-11 13:58 +0000
                Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-01-13 14:37 +0000
      Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-01-08 18:30 -1000
        Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-01-08 20:47 -0800
          Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-01-08 20:49 -1000
            Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-01-09 13:02 -0800
  Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories a.daniel.eliason@gmail.com - 2015-01-08 14:45 -0800
    Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-01-08 15:50 -0800
  Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories Doug Hoffman <glidedog@gmail.com> - 2015-01-08 22:34 -0500
    Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-01-08 17:48 -1000
    Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-01-08 21:13 -0800
      Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-01-08 21:09 -1000
    Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories Roelf Toxopeus <rt4all@notthis.hetnet.nl> - 2015-01-09 09:34 +0100
      Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories Roelf Toxopeus <rt4all@notthis.hetnet.nl> - 2015-01-09 12:26 +0100
  Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-01-09 08:10 +0000
    Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories JennyB <jennybrien@googlemail.com> - 2015-01-09 03:36 -0800
  Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories Paul E Bennett <Paul_E.Bennett@topmail.co.uk> - 2015-01-09 14:14 +0000
    Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2015-01-09 15:25 +0000
      Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2015-01-09 20:20 +0000
        Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2015-01-09 20:47 +0000
        Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-01-09 13:08 -0800
          Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2015-01-09 21:34 +0000
            Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-01-10 14:00 -0800
              Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-01-11 11:45 -0800
    Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-01-09 13:28 -0800
      Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories Paul E Bennett <Paul_E.Bennett@topmail.co.uk> - 2015-01-10 22:41 +0000
        Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-01-10 18:49 -0800
          Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories Paul E Bennett <Paul_E.Bennett@topmail.co.uk> - 2015-01-11 09:27 +0000
            Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2015-01-11 11:51 +0000
    Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories Steve Graham <jsgrahamus@yahoo.com> - 2015-01-12 14:46 -0800
      Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories Paul E Bennett <Paul_E.Bennett@topmail.co.uk> - 2015-01-13 00:30 +0000
  Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories Wolf Wejgaard <wejgaard@gmail.com> - 2015-01-12 06:32 -0800
  Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-01-12 20:35 -0500
    Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-01-13 03:06 -0800
      Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories lynx <rinkasu@kaze.void.null> - 2015-01-25 18:25 +0000
    Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-01-15 23:08 -0800
      Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories m.a.m.hendrix@tue.nl - 2015-01-16 03:09 -0800
      Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2015-01-16 18:25 +0000
      Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories lynx <rinkasu@kaze.void.null> - 2015-01-25 21:05 +0000
        Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-01-26 01:08 +0100
          Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories lynx <rinkasu@kaze.void.null> - 2015-01-26 00:56 +0000
          Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories lynx <rinkasu@kaze.void.null> - 2015-01-26 02:12 +0000
            Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2015-01-26 18:09 +0000
              Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories lynx <rinkasu@kaze.void.null> - 2015-01-27 07:42 +0000
                Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-01-27 01:25 -0800
                Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2015-01-29 10:20 +0000
          Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-01-26 12:10 +0000
            Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-01-26 22:18 +0100
        Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories Doug Hoffman <glidedog@gmail.com> - 2015-01-27 08:44 -0500
  Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2015-01-14 10:23 +1100
    Re: blocks and screens, tell your war stories hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-01-13 19:47 -0800

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