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| Subject | Re: RFD: Quotations V2 update |
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| References | <mpq2n2$85u$1@dont-email.me> <mpr8lf$2nl$1@dont-email.me> <2015Aug5.101520@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <mpto7s$nql$1@dont-email.me> <ddf2185c-7990-44b6-9726-f9357b0aec47@googlegroups.com> |
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.forth |
| From | "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> |
| Organization | FORTH, Inc. |
| Date | 2015-08-05 18:39 -1000 |
| Message-ID | <AtCdnWFKO55neV_InZ2dnUU7-Y2dnZ2d@supernews.com> (permalink) |
On 8/5/15 11:41 AM, peter.m.falth@gmail.com wrote: > On Wednesday, 5 August 2015 21:31:42 UTC+2, Gerry wrote: >> On 05/08/2015 09:15, Anton Ertl wrote: >>> Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> writes: >>>> On 04/08/2015 11:05, Alex McDonald wrote: >>>>> Specification >>>>> ------------- >>>>> >>>>> The following notations have been seen in the wild, oldest first. >>>>> :| ... |; >>>>> :[ ... ]: >>>>> [: ... ;] >>>>> >>>>> The notation [: ;] appears to have popular support. >>>>> >>>>> [: ( c: -- quotation-sys ) >>>>> Interpretation: Interpretation semantics for this word are undefined. >>>> >>>> I would rather it was defined and equivalent to :noname. >>> >>> If so, I would like to see a specification where interpretation >>> semantics and compilation semantics are the same (i.e., an immediate >>> word). We don't need another word with non-default non-immediate >>> compilation semantics. >>> >>> - anton >>> >> >> I don't want to trigger another long discussion about words with >> non-default non-immediate compilation semantics as previous discussions >> have left me a bit confused. But I thought the problem was with words >> that parsed such as S". Can you give an example of code that would fail >> if [: was equivalent to :NONAME >> >> -- >> Gerry > > You could do the other way around, rename [: to [:NONAME and you have a > nice symmetry like [CHAR] and CHAR > > :NONAME ; interpreting > [:NONAME ;] compiling > > But honestly I have never liked :NONAME either, cam we find a better > name like :# and [:# ? :NONAME is a pretty ugly name, but in Forth the symbol # suggests numbers (as in <# # #S #> ). If you're going to do this stuff, [: and ;] aren't bad names. > With some state-smartness it was no problem making [: and ;] work > also while interpreting Does that mean you could get rid of :NONAME? Cheers, Elizabeth -- ================================================== Elizabeth D. Rather (US & Canada) 800-55-FORTH FORTH Inc. +1 310.999.6784 5959 West Century Blvd. Suite 700 Los Angeles, CA 90045 http://www.forth.com "Forth-based products and Services for real-time applications since 1973." ==================================================
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RFD: Quotations V2 update "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-08-04 11:05 +0100
Re: RFD: Quotations V2 update Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 04:09 -0700
Re: RFD: Quotations V2 update Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> - 2015-08-04 13:35 +0200
Re: RFD: Quotations V2 update "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-08-04 13:54 +0100
Re: RFD: Quotations V2 update "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-08-04 14:01 +0100
Re: RFD: Quotations V2 update "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-08-04 13:38 +0100
Re: RFD: Quotations V2 update Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 07:37 -0700
Re: RFD: Quotations V2 update anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-08-04 14:23 +0000
Re: RFD: Quotations V2 update "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-08-04 16:09 +0100
Re: RFD: Quotations V2 update anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-08-04 15:38 +0000
Re: RFD: Quotations V2 update Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-08-04 22:30 +0200
Re: RFD: Quotations V2 update "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-08-04 23:09 +0100
Re: RFD: Quotations V2 update Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-08-05 01:45 +0200
Re: RFD: Quotations V2 update anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-08-05 07:23 +0000
Re: RFD: Quotations V2 update "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-08-05 09:55 +0100
Re: RFD: Quotations V2 update Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2015-08-05 12:03 +0100
Re: RFD: Quotations V2 update "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-08-05 13:50 +0100
Re: RFD: Quotations V2 update anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-08-05 16:07 +0000
Re: RFD: Quotations V2 update Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2015-08-05 20:23 +0100
Re: RFD: Quotations V2 update Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-08-04 22:00 +0200
Re: RFD: Quotations V2 update "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-08-04 21:07 +0100
Re: RFD: Quotations V2 update Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2015-08-04 21:53 +0100
Re: RFD: Quotations V2 update "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-08-04 23:22 +0100
Re: RFD: Quotations V2 update Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2015-08-05 12:38 +0100
Re: RFD: Quotations V2 update "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-08-05 13:41 +0100
Re: RFD: Quotations V2 update anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-08-05 12:46 +0000
Re: RFD: Quotations V2 update Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-08-06 02:12 +0200
Re: RFD: Quotations V2 update "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-08-06 14:16 +0100
Re: RFD: Quotations V2 update anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-08-06 13:46 +0000
Re: RFD: Quotations V2 update anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-08-05 08:15 +0000
Re: RFD: Quotations V2 update Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2015-08-05 20:31 +0100
Re: RFD: Quotations V2 update peter.m.falth@gmail.com - 2015-08-05 14:41 -0700
Re: RFD: Quotations V2 update "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2015-08-05 18:39 -1000
Re: RFD: Quotations V2 update peter.m.falth@gmail.com - 2015-08-05 23:22 -0700
Re: RFD: Quotations V2 update anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-08-06 13:19 +0000
Re: RFD: Quotations V2 update Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2015-08-07 22:28 +0100
Re: RFD: Quotations V2 update Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2015-08-07 22:34 +0100
Re: RFD: Quotations V2 update anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-08-08 15:53 +0000
Re: RFD: Quotations V2 update Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2015-08-11 21:16 +0100
Re: RFD: Quotations V2 update anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-08-08 15:39 +0000
Re: RFD: Quotations V2 update Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2015-08-10 12:55 +0100
Re: RFD: Quotations V2 update anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-08-10 12:08 +0000
Re: RFD: Quotations V2 update hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-08-04 18:09 -0700
Re: RFD: Quotations V2 update "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-08-05 09:22 +0100
Re: RFD: Quotations V2 update "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-08-05 09:53 +0100
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