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Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx

From Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid>
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Subject Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx
Date 2015-07-13 22:05 -0700
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Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> writes:
> I'm struggling to see the advantage of:
> : foo some code [: bar ;] more code execute ;   ...
> It's just a different way of factoring. Can someone give me an example
> of something that can only be done using quotations?

The usefulness is when you pass the quotation to something that takes an
xt as an arg.  Of course without quotations you could make another named
word and quote it to make the xt.  It's just convenience.

  0.001e fconstant h
  \ (D f)(x) = (f(x+h) - f(x)) / h
  : derivative {: func F:x :}
       x h f+ func execute    x func execute  f-  h f/ ;

  : square ( f -- f ) fdup f* ;

  ' square 3e derivative     \ prints approx derivative of x^2 at x=3

  [: fdup f* ;] 3e derivative  \ same thing without making an extra word

It doesn't seem that important for Forth but it is a main idiom of
functional programming.  If you're interested in that topic, this is
a good paper:

  http://www.cs.kent.ac.uk/people/staff/dat/miranda/whyfp90.pdf

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How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Tessa Bonting <tessa.bonting@gmail.com> - 2015-07-12 06:48 -0700
  Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-07-12 15:10 +0000
    Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Tessa Bonting <tessa.bonting@gmail.com> - 2015-07-12 08:47 -0700
    Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-07-13 01:15 -0700
      Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-07-13 01:20 -0700
        Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-07-13 01:30 -0700
          Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-07-13 01:33 -0700
      Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-07-13 01:28 -0700
  Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2015-07-12 08:23 -0700
    Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2015-07-12 18:56 +0200
      Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2015-07-13 20:24 -0700
        Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2015-07-14 09:43 +0200
    Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2015-07-18 14:18 +1000
      Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2015-08-01 12:46 +1000
        Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx mhx@iae.nl - 2015-08-01 00:52 -0700
          Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2015-08-02 18:16 +1000
            Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx mhx@iae.nl - 2015-08-02 02:18 -0700
              Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2015-08-05 13:35 +1000
        Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-08-01 21:37 +0200
          Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx JennyB <jennybrien@googlemail.com> - 2015-08-05 06:00 -0700
            Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-08-05 13:16 +0000
              Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx JennyB <jennybrien@googlemail.com> - 2015-08-05 09:40 -0700
                Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-08-06 14:34 +0000
                Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx JennyB <jennybrien@googlemail.com> - 2015-08-07 00:33 -0700
                Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2015-08-15 12:37 +1000
                Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2015-08-15 13:53 +0200
                Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2015-08-16 12:53 +1000
                Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx "HAA" <someone@microsoft.com> - 2015-08-08 13:06 +1000
                Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx "WJ" <w_a_x_man@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-15 03:23 +0000
  Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-07-12 14:55 -0700
    Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-13 12:53 +0100
      Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-07-13 06:13 -0700
        Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-13 16:00 +0100
          Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-07-13 09:12 -0700
          Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-07-13 09:26 -0700
        Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2015-07-13 17:00 +0200
          Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-13 16:58 +0100
            Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2015-07-13 20:53 +0200
        Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx bettilyona@gmail.com - 2015-07-13 09:13 -0700
          Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-07-13 09:15 -0700
        Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-07-13 13:10 -0700
          Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-07-13 14:24 -0700
            Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-07-13 18:51 -0700
              Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2015-07-13 20:19 -0700
                Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-07-13 20:49 -0700
                Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2015-07-13 21:48 -0700
                Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-14 09:38 +0100
                Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-07-13 21:44 -0700
                Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-07-13 21:53 -0700
                Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2015-07-13 22:04 -0700
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                Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx humptydumpty <ouatubi@gmail.com> - 2015-07-14 01:47 -0700
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                Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2015-07-14 10:45 -0700
                Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx humptydumpty <ouatubi@gmail.com> - 2015-07-14 11:10 -0700
              Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-14 09:35 +0100
                Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-07-14 02:17 -0700
                Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx humptydumpty <ouatubi@gmail.com> - 2015-07-14 02:24 -0700
              Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-07-14 02:25 -0700
                Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-07-14 09:32 -0700
                Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-14 17:50 +0100
                Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-07-14 10:48 -0700
                Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-14 18:59 +0100
                Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-14 20:49 +0100
                Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx "Rod Pemberton" <boo@fasdfrewar.cdm> - 2015-07-15 00:52 -0400
                Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-15 12:09 +0100
                Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-07-15 04:19 -0700
                Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx "Rod Pemberton" <boo@fasdfrewar.cdm> - 2015-07-15 22:10 -0400
                Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 00:42 -0700
                Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-16 14:29 +0100
                Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 12:52 -0700
                Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-16 09:59 +0100
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                Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-15 16:27 +0100
                Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-07-15 10:47 -0700
                Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx "Rod Pemberton" <boo@fasdfrewar.cdm> - 2015-07-15 21:50 -0400
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                Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-07-15 12:58 -0700
                Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx "Rod Pemberton" <boo@fasdfrewar.cdm> - 2015-07-15 22:20 -0400
                Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-07-14 09:53 -0700
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                Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-14 20:06 +0100
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                Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-14 20:52 +0100
                Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2015-07-14 13:39 -0700
                Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-14 22:20 +0100
                Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Raimond Dragomir <raimond.dragomir@gmail.com> - 2015-07-14 21:10 -0700
                Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-15 12:03 +0100
                Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2015-07-15 14:16 +0200
                Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2015-07-15 14:04 +0200
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                Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-07-15 15:26 +0000
                Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx JennyB <jennybrien@googlemail.com> - 2015-07-16 05:41 -0700
                Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-16 14:13 +0100
                Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-07-14 14:18 -0700
                Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-07-15 02:42 -0700
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                Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx "Alex McDonald" <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2015-07-15 19:31 +0100
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                Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2015-07-15 05:55 +0000
                Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Håkan Thörngren <hth313@gmail.com> - 2015-07-15 00:03 -0700
                Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2015-07-15 01:41 -0700
            Re: How do quotation work, I can not foound them in 20xx Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-13 22:05 -0700
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