Re: how can forth compete with lisp

From	Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.forth
Subject	Re: how can forth compete with lisp
Date	2016-09-25 17:54 -0700
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lawrencedo99@gmail.com writes:
>> hardware product containing a normal microprocessor
> In that case, the code should be reusable across other SoCs using the
> same processor family.

Sure, that's not the issue though.  The product is some kind of lab
instrument or satellite radio or whatever, full of unique circuitry and
sensors with their own quirks, and the software has to run all that
stuff.  Most of the code will be specific to that surrounding hardware,
and would be useless for most anything else.  The CPU architecture
doesn't come into it that much.

The other thing is, both in the present-day hardware world and in the
software world in the "peak Forth" era (1980s?), releasing source code
was an unusual thing to do unless you were in academia.  The FOSS
movement didn't take off in a big way til somewhat later.

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Re: how can forth compete with lisp endlessboomcapitalism@gmail.com - 2016-08-13 10:01 -0700
  Re: how can forth compete with lisp Pablo Hugo Reda <pabloreda@gmail.com> - 2016-08-13 10:24 -0700
    Re: how can forth compete with lisp JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com> - 2016-08-13 11:25 -0700
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        Re: how can forth compete with lisp JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com> - 2016-08-13 12:17 -0700
        Re: how can forth compete with lisp Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-13 12:40 -0700
          Re: how can forth compete with lisp JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com> - 2016-08-13 13:08 -0700
            Re: how can forth compete with lisp Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-13 13:58 -0700
              Re: how can forth compete with lisp JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com> - 2016-08-14 00:32 -0700
                Re: how can forth compete with lisp Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-18 16:11 -0700
                Re: how can forth compete with lisp JUERGEN <epldfpga@aol.com> - 2016-08-19 06:45 -0700
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    Re: how can forth compete with lisp polymorph self <jackvanc3@gmail.com> - 2016-09-23 15:55 -0700
      Re: how can forth compete with lisp lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-09-23 18:39 -0700
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              Re: how can forth compete with lisp lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-09-24 00:47 -0700
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                Re: how can forth compete with lisp lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-09-24 19:26 -0700
                Re: how can forth compete with lisp "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2016-09-24 21:30 -1000
                Re: how can forth compete with lisp lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-09-25 13:53 -0700
                Re: how can forth compete with lisp Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-25 13:59 -0700
                Re: how can forth compete with lisp lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-09-25 17:38 -0700
                Re: how can forth compete with lisp Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-25 17:54 -0700
                Re: how can forth compete with lisp "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2016-09-25 14:43 -1000
                Re: how can forth compete with lisp jim <anon@example.com> - 2016-09-26 14:53 +0100
                Re: how can forth compete with lisp "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2016-09-26 14:02 -1000
                Re: how can forth compete with lisp jim <anon@example.com> - 2016-09-27 11:16 +0100
                Re: how can forth compete with lisp "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2016-09-27 10:28 -1000
                Re: how can forth compete with lisp jim <anon@example.com> - 2016-09-28 11:41 +0100
                Re: how can forth compete with lisp albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2016-09-28 13:27 +0200
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                Re: how can forth compete with lisp Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2016-09-28 11:40 -0500
                Re: how can forth compete with lisp foxaudioresearch@gmail.com - 2016-09-28 10:13 -0700
                Re: how can forth compete with lisp "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2016-09-28 08:39 -1000
                Re: how can forth compete with lisp polymorph self <jackvanc3@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 18:14 -0700
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                Re: how can forth compete with lisp polymorph self <jackvanc3@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 18:12 -0700
                Re: how can forth compete with lisp "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2016-09-28 08:35 -1000
                Re: how can forth compete with lisp foxaudioresearch@gmail.com - 2016-09-29 06:59 -0700
                Re: how can forth compete with lisp "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2016-09-29 09:43 -1000
                Re: how can forth compete with lisp stephen@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2016-09-30 09:39 +0000
                Re: how can forth compete with lisp lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-09-30 16:54 -0700
                Re: how can forth compete with lisp Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-30 17:14 -0700
                Re: how can forth compete with lisp albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2016-10-01 11:06 +0200
                Re: how can forth compete with lisp Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-01 12:20 -0700
                Re: how can forth compete with lisp albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2016-10-02 02:04 +0200
                Re: how can forth compete with lisp Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-01 17:00 -0700
                Re: how can forth compete with lisp polymorph self <jackvanc3@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 17:28 -0700
                Re: how can forth compete with lisp polymorph self <jackvanc3@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 17:27 -0700
                Re: how can forth compete with lisp dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2016-10-01 13:12 +0000
                Re: how can forth compete with lisp albert@cherry.spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2016-10-01 16:07 +0200
                Re: how can forth compete with lisp polymorph self <jackvanc3@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 18:33 -0700
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