Re: Does anybody use Windows XP ?

From	Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.forth
Subject	Re: Does anybody use Windows XP ?
Date	2014-03-29 16:55 -0700
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visualforth@rocketmail.com writes:
> I don't like to add additional hardware, because these laptops are
> intended for teaching purposes, and additional hardware will make them
> really expensive. Last year I got 8 of these laptops from eBay at 50$
> each. I guess an MSATA SSD will be more expensive.

Oh I see.  If that's what you're trying to do, maybe you're better off
with Raspberry Pis.  I see there are some PATA SSD's on ebay but yeah,
they'd make the laptop substantially more expensive, even if you get
16GB or 32GB units for $1-$2/GB.

Another possibility for teaching use might be to use a "live distro"
that boots from a USB flash stick and doesn't use the hard drive at all.
A 4GB or even 2GB flash stick (those are dirt cheap) is probably enough.

> I now checked all the CDs I got today, and the only one I would
> consider is PCLinuxOS Mate.  PCLinuxOS KDE is a huge system...,
> PCLinuxOS FullMonty I was asked for a password ... Lubuntu needs PAE,
> ...  Zorin OS 8.1 ... is delivered with Chrome browser.  Kubuntu ...

Really I would skip all those systems that made any attempt to be like
Windows or that came from companies trying to be like Microsoft.  Mate
is nice (I use it myself, it's basically a fork of Gnome 2) but it's
quite bloated compared with XFCE.  Fedora with Mate is nice but might be
a bit large for that 1GB machine.

> All these Linux flavors I tested today show me that Windows XP is
> still better. Only with Windows XP I am able to see TV without
> problems,

I thought you wanted a computer OS, not a TV set.  Windows will always
have better media playback stuff because DRM from media companies
obstructs use with free software.  Android will probably outpace Windows
eventually though, even at this.

> Now I will wait for ReactOS - would be great if this works.

I'd bag Windows altogether.

> Since a while I am thinking if it would be possible to squeeze Forth
> somewhere in between with Linux (may be using the "Linux from Scratch"
> edition) to be able to make Linux a pleasant experience.

Not sure how you mean.  You should be able to run gforth just fine on
any Linux system.  Gforth mode inside Emacs is quite nice to use.

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Does anybody use Windows XP ? visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-03-26 15:30 -0700
  Re: Does anybody use Windows XP ? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-03-26 17:05 -0700
  Re: Does anybody use Windows XP ? AKK <akk@nospam.org> - 2014-03-27 00:49 +0100
  Re: Does anybody use Windows XP ? albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-03-27 01:33 +0000
  Re: Does anybody use Windows XP ? Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2014-03-27 01:45 -0700
    Re: Does anybody use Windows XP ? "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2014-03-27 08:39 -1000
      Re: Does anybody use Windows XP ? Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2014-04-01 01:26 +0200
        Re: Does anybody use Windows XP ? m.a.m.hendrix@tue.nl - 2014-03-31 23:55 -0700
          Re: Does anybody use Windows XP ? Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2014-04-01 11:16 +0200
  Re: Does anybody use Windows XP ? jzakiya@gmail.com - 2014-03-27 11:18 -0700
  Re: Does anybody use Windows XP ? Paul E Bennett <Paul_E.Bennett@topmail.co.uk> - 2014-03-27 20:04 +0000
  Re: Does anybody use Windows XP ? "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-03-27 18:11 -0400
  Re: Does anybody use Windows XP ? Marc Olschok <nobody@nowhere.invalid> - 2014-03-28 02:05 +0000
  Re: Does anybody use Windows XP ? Hans Bezemer <the.beez.speaks@gmail.com> - 2014-03-28 10:53 +0100
    Re: Does anybody use Windows XP ? Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2014-03-28 15:15 -0700
      Re: Does anybody use Windows XP ? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-03-28 15:42 -0700
      Re: Does anybody use Windows XP ? visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-03-28 16:17 -0700
        Re: Does anybody use Windows XP ? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-03-28 17:49 -0700
          Re: Does anybody use Windows XP ? visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-03-28 17:52 -0700
            Re: Does anybody use Windows XP ? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-03-28 18:50 -0700
              Re: Does anybody use Windows XP ? visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-03-28 22:31 -0700
                Re: Does anybody use Windows XP ? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-03-28 23:18 -0700
                Re: Does anybody use Windows XP ? visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-03-29 15:03 -0700
                Re: Does anybody use Windows XP ? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-03-29 16:55 -0700
                Re: Does anybody use Windows XP ? visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-03-29 20:19 -0700
                Re: Does anybody use Windows XP ? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-03-29 20:55 -0700
                Re: Does anybody use Windows XP ? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2014-03-30 21:14 +0200
                Re: Does anybody use Windows XP ? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-03-30 13:09 -0700
                Re: Does anybody use Windows XP ? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2014-03-31 13:26 +0200
                Re: Does anybody use Windows XP ? "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-03-31 18:14 -0400
                Re: Does anybody use Windows XP ? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-03-31 15:42 -0700
                Re: Does anybody use Windows XP ? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2014-04-01 14:27 +0200
                Re: Does anybody use Windows XP ? visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-03-30 22:58 -0700
                Re: Does anybody use Windows XP ? "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-03-31 18:18 -0400
                Re: Does anybody use Windows XP ? visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-03-31 23:10 -0700
                Re: Does anybody use Windows XP ? m.a.m.hendrix@tue.nl - 2014-04-01 00:17 -0700
                Re: Does anybody use Windows XP ? "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-04-01 19:16 -0400
                Re: Does anybody use Windows XP ? visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-04-01 16:34 -0700
                Re: Does anybody use Windows XP ? "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-04-01 20:10 -0400
                Re: Does anybody use Windows XP ? visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-04-01 21:26 -0700
                Re: Does anybody use Windows XP ? Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2014-04-01 02:17 +0200
                Re: Does anybody use Windows XP ? visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-03-31 22:23 -0700
                Re: Does anybody use Windows XP ? Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2014-04-01 07:45 +0200
                Re: Does anybody use Windows XP ? albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-04-01 11:37 +0000
                Re: Does anybody use Windows XP ? m.a.m.hendrix@tue.nl - 2014-04-01 05:59 -0700
                Re: Does anybody use Windows XP ? albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-04-01 16:43 +0000
                Re: Does anybody use Windows XP ? Hans Bezemer <the.beez.speaks@gmail.com> - 2014-04-03 14:33 +0200
                Re: Does anybody use Windows XP ? Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2014-04-01 02:15 +0200
              Re: Does anybody use Windows XP ? Richard Owlett <rowlett@pcnetinc.com> - 2014-03-29 05:50 -0500
            Re: Does anybody use Windows XP ? albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2014-03-29 09:19 +0000
      Re: Does anybody use Windows XP ? Hans Bezemer <the.beez.speaks@gmail.com> - 2014-03-29 14:16 +0100
      Re: Does anybody use Windows XP ? Marc Olschok <nobody@nowhere.invalid> - 2014-03-30 00:33 +0000
      Re: Does anybody use Windows XP ? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2014-03-30 21:08 +0200
  Re: Does anybody use Windows XP ? jacko <jackokring@gmail.com> - 2014-03-31 00:23 -0700
  Re: Does anybody use Windows XP ? Jason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com> - 2014-04-01 10:15 -0700
    Re: Does anybody use Windows XP ? visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-04-01 10:38 -0700
      Re: Does anybody use Windows XP ? Jason Damisch <jasondamisch@yahoo.com> - 2014-04-01 10:55 -0700
        Re: Does anybody use Windows XP ? visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2014-04-01 11:30 -0700
          Re: Does anybody use Windows XP ? Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2014-04-01 21:20 +0200
        Re: Does anybody use Windows XP ? "Rod Pemberton" <dont_use_email@xnothavet.cqm> - 2014-04-01 19:41 -0400
        Re: Does anybody use Windows XP ? Mark Wills <markwills1970@gmail.com> - 2014-04-01 16:46 -0700

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