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Re: Reclaiming Allocated Memory

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Doug Hoffman <glidedog@gmail.com> writes:
> ..., while it would be great to have garbage collection
> (GC) the problems of having an acceptable Forth GC seem difficult or
> not possible to solve.

I think you mentioned trying this:

  http://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/forth/garbage-collection.zip

What are the main problems it faces?  I haven't tried it myself, but it
looks really nice, and the method it uses was originally implemented for
C, where it has had some success.

> By using a Forth object system with the above manual memory
> reclamation scheme we can have, for example, an easy to use string
> package that integrates well with the rest of Forth,

I'm having trouble believing such a system can be easy to use, if the
object references can be freely shared around the program.  C++ has
evolved towards dealing with this by explicitly invoked automatic
reference counting (the STL shared_ptr template) and other languages do
everything through pervasive refcounting (Python) or GC.  I think Forth
and C these days simply work best in applications where there's not much
use of dynamically managed memory.

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Reclaiming Allocated Memory Doug Hoffman <glidedog@gmail.com> - 2013-11-25 07:41 -0500
  Re: Reclaiming Allocated Memory Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-11-25 07:04 -0800
    Re: Reclaiming Allocated Memory albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2013-11-25 16:16 +0000
      Re: Reclaiming Allocated Memory Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-11-25 09:03 -0800
        Re: Reclaiming Allocated Memory Doug Hoffman <glidedog@gmail.com> - 2013-11-26 06:30 -0500
          Re: Reclaiming Allocated Memory AKK <akk@nospam.org> - 2013-11-26 13:07 +0100
    Re: Reclaiming Allocated Memory Doug Hoffman <glidedog@gmail.com> - 2013-11-26 05:11 -0500
  Re: Reclaiming Allocated Memory anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2013-12-04 16:46 +0000
    Re: Reclaiming Allocated Memory Doug Hoffman <glidedog@gmail.com> - 2013-12-05 06:43 -0500
      Re: Reclaiming Allocated Memory Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-12-05 06:30 -0800
        Re: Reclaiming Allocated Memory albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2013-12-05 14:37 +0000
          Re: Reclaiming Allocated Memory Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-12-05 07:21 -0800
        Re: Reclaiming Allocated Memory Doug Hoffman <glidedog@gmail.com> - 2013-12-06 04:57 -0500
          Re: Reclaiming Allocated Memory Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2013-12-06 07:38 -0800
            Re: Reclaiming Allocated Memory Doug Hoffman <glidedog@gmail.com> - 2013-12-07 06:14 -0500
      Re: Reclaiming Allocated Memory anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2013-12-05 18:14 +0000
        Re: Reclaiming Allocated Memory Doug Hoffman <glidedog@gmail.com> - 2013-12-06 04:58 -0500
          Re: Reclaiming Allocated Memory Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2013-12-06 17:30 +0100
            Re: Reclaiming Allocated Memory Doug Hoffman <glidedog@gmail.com> - 2013-12-07 05:59 -0500
              Re: Reclaiming Allocated Memory anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2013-12-07 11:57 +0000
                Re: Reclaiming Allocated Memory albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2013-12-07 17:48 +0000
                Re: Reclaiming Allocated Memory Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2013-12-07 19:15 +0100
                Re: Reclaiming Allocated Memory anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2013-12-09 13:45 +0000
          Re: Reclaiming Allocated Memory anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2013-12-06 17:42 +0000

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