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Re: Expert systems in forth

Date 2026-07-20 15:30 +1000
Subject Re: Expert systems in forth
Newsgroups comp.lang.forth
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From dxf <dxforth@gmail.com>
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On 20/07/2026 2:01 am, marcel hendrix wrote:
> On 7/19/2026 7:37 AM, dxf wrote:
>> On 13/07/2026 3:58 am, marcel hendrix wrote:
>>> On 1/5/2025 6:52 AM, ahmed wrote:
>>> [..]
>>>> 3- The forth words place and +place are not defined in iForth:
>>>> I borrowed the definitions from gforth.
>>>
>>> place is called PACK , +PLACE is called PLACE+ .
>>
>> Presumably that's PACK DROP
>>
>> Just about every forth has PLACE while hardly any have PACK.  I have both
>> as PACK has proven too handy e.g.
>>
>>    : !fn ( a u handle -- a' u' )
>>      >r  -blanks  max-path umin  r> cell+ pack count  2dup upper ;
>>
>> Have only seen PACK in the odd Euro forth.  Anyone know its exact origin?
>>
> 
> PACK ( drop ) was mentioned in the BASIS documents we tracked for the Dutch tForth project (transputer Forth).
> 
> I have learned not to use nice names for (as yet) unstandardized features because the name or functionality may change.

Scanning my files I found CHForth, eForth, Mitch Bradley, had PACK.  The last
two I didn't expect.

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Expert systems in forth melahi_ahmed@yahoo.fr (ahmed) - 2025-01-04 11:32 +0000
  Re: Expert systems in forth melahi_ahmed@yahoo.fr (ahmed) - 2025-01-04 11:41 +0000
    Re: Expert systems in forth melahi_ahmed@yahoo.fr (ahmed) - 2025-01-04 11:42 +0000
      Re: Expert systems in forth minforth@gmx.net (minforth) - 2025-01-04 17:46 +0000
        Re: Expert systems in forth melahi_ahmed@yahoo.fr (ahmed) - 2025-01-04 19:08 +0000
          Re: Expert systems in forth mhx@iae.nl (mhx) - 2025-01-04 23:24 +0000
            Re: Expert systems in forth melahi_ahmed@yahoo.fr (ahmed) - 2025-01-05 05:52 +0000
              Re: Expert systems in forth mhx@iae.nl (mhx) - 2025-01-06 14:53 +0000
                Re: Expert systems in forth dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2025-01-07 13:17 +1100
                Re: Expert systems in forth melahi_ahmed@yahoo.fr (ahmed) - 2025-01-07 06:28 +0000
              Re: Expert systems in forth marcel hendrix <mhx@iae.nl> - 2026-07-12 19:58 +0200
                Re: Expert systems in forth dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2026-07-19 15:37 +1000
                Re: Expert systems in forth marcel hendrix <mhx@iae.nl> - 2026-07-19 18:01 +0200
                Re: Expert systems in forth dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2026-07-20 15:30 +1000
        Re: Expert systems in forth anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-01-05 08:49 +0000
          Re: Expert systems in forth melahi_ahmed@yahoo.fr (ahmed) - 2025-01-05 11:39 +0000
            Re: Expert systems in forth anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-01-05 15:09 +0000
              Re: Expert systems in forth melahi_ahmed@yahoo.fr (ahmed) - 2025-01-05 16:38 +0000
                Re: Expert systems in forth anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-01-05 17:31 +0000
                Re: Expert systems in forth melahi_ahmed@yahoo.fr (ahmed) - 2025-01-05 18:47 +0000
              Re: Expert systems in forth albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl - 2025-01-05 18:51 +0100
                Re: Expert systems in forth melahi_ahmed@yahoo.fr (ahmed) - 2025-01-05 19:01 +0000
                Re: Expert systems in forth melahi_ahmed@yahoo.fr (ahmed) - 2025-01-06 00:56 +0000
                Re: Expert systems in forth dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2025-01-06 10:44 +1100

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