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Re: RFD: Patching INCLUDED for UTF-8

From anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl)
Newsgroups comp.lang.forth
Subject Re: RFD: Patching INCLUDED for UTF-8
Date 2017-05-26 09:39 +0000
Organization Institut fuer Computersprachen, Technische Universitaet Wien
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Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> writes:
>Stupidly, Microsoft say this; 
>https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/dd374101(v=vs.85).aspx

|Because Unicode plain text is a sequence of 16-bit code values, it is
|sensitive to the byte ordering used when the text is written.

So Microsoft means UTF-16 when they write "Unicode".  For UTF-16, byte
order is an issue, so a byte-order mark is not completely superfluous.
Also, because UTF-16 is not ASCII-compatible on byte-addressed
machines, the main disadvantage of prepending a BOM does not play a
role (tools that work on 8-bit characters don't work on UTF-16 anyway,
BOM or no).  But these reasons don't transfer to UTF-8.

- anton
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RFD: Patching INCLUDED for UTF-8 Brad Eckert <hwfwguy@gmail.com> - 2017-05-24 16:17 -0700
  Re: RFD: Patching INCLUDED for UTF-8 anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-05-25 09:32 +0000
    Re: RFD: Patching INCLUDED for UTF-8 Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-05-25 12:09 +0100
      Re: RFD: Patching INCLUDED for UTF-8 Brad Eckert <hwfwguy@gmail.com> - 2017-05-25 09:40 -0700
    Re: RFD: Patching INCLUDED for UTF-8 Julian Fondren <julian.fondren@gmail.com> - 2017-05-25 09:51 -0700
      Re: RFD: Patching INCLUDED for UTF-8 Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-05-25 21:28 +0100
        Re: RFD: Patching INCLUDED for UTF-8 anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-05-26 09:39 +0000
          Re: RFD: Patching INCLUDED for UTF-8 Alex <alex@rivadpm.com> - 2017-05-26 13:27 +0100
            Re: RFD: Patching INCLUDED for UTF-8 anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-05-26 14:56 +0000
            Re: RFD: Patching INCLUDED for UTF-8 Brad Eckert <hwfwguy@gmail.com> - 2017-05-31 21:55 -0700
              Re: RFD: Patching INCLUDED for UTF-8 anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-06-01 06:23 +0000
      Re: RFD: Patching INCLUDED for UTF-8 anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2017-05-26 09:45 +0000

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