Re: Kilocore

From	anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl)
Newsgroups	comp.lang.forth
Subject	Re: Kilocore
Date	2016-06-24 15:57 +0000
Organization	Institut fuer Computersprachen, Technische Universitaet Wien
Message-ID	<2016Jun24.175754@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> (permalink)
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rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> writes:
>On 6/24/2016 6:21 AM, Anton Ertl wrote:
>> rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> writes:
>>> I don't want to offend, but I think the idea that someone would spend
>>> half a mil building a chip without any idea of how to program it is a
>>> bit of nonsense.
>>
>> Sure they have an idea how to program it.  Sometimes these ideas scale
>> to development of bigger software, and sometimes they don't.  Now will
>> you spend a few millions on software development for a hardware model
>> before you know that you can actually build the hardware?
>
>Where is the risk in building hardware at a process node more than five 
>years old?

Hardware with design parameters that no one has tried before?  Risks:
Do you get it to work?  Do you get it to perform?

And for the software provider: Will the hardware maker actuallt build
the thing?  Will anyone buy it?  Once they buy it, will they buy my
software?

If you want to get some idea of the issues, read what John Dallman has
written over the years about Itanium on comp.arch.

>> But for some kind of signal processing, why
>> not?
>
>I give up, why not?  Which signal processing apps has the GA144 been 
>used for?

I don't know, I have not followed this stuff.  Supposedly you can use
some cores for producing a video signal.  I could imagine that one
could use it for an oscilloscope.  I don't know how much additional
circuitry would be needed and if it has any advantages over other
potential solutions for that application.

- anton
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Kilocore Brad Eckert <hwfwguy@gmail.com> - 2016-06-22 21:56 -0700
  Re: Kilocore Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2016-06-23 03:09 -0500
  Re: Kilocore rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-06-23 09:59 -0400
    Re: Kilocore anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-06-23 14:31 +0000
      Re: Kilocore rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-06-23 16:22 -0400
        Re: Kilocore anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-06-24 10:21 +0000
          Re: Kilocore rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-06-24 11:37 -0400
            Re: Kilocore anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-06-24 15:57 +0000
              Re: Kilocore rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-06-24 12:26 -0400
                Re: Kilocore anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-06-25 14:10 +0000
                Re: Kilocore rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-06-25 14:00 -0400
                Re: Kilocore anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-06-26 09:58 +0000
                Re: Kilocore rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-06-26 15:17 -0400
                Re: Kilocore anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-06-27 14:40 +0000
                Re: Kilocore rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-06-27 12:39 -0400
                Re: Kilocore Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2016-06-27 14:50 -0500
                Re: Kilocore Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-06-27 12:59 -0700
                Re: Kilocore rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-06-27 16:05 -0400
                Re: Kilocore Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2016-06-27 15:17 -0500
                Re: Kilocore hughaguilar96@gmail.com - 2016-06-26 15:46 -0700
  Re: Kilocore anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-06-23 14:15 +0000
    Re: Kilocore Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2016-06-23 11:57 -0500
    Re: Kilocore rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2016-06-23 16:25 -0400
  Re: Kilocore Ilya Tarasov <ilya74.tarasov@gmail.com> - 2016-06-24 04:18 -0700
    Re: Kilocore Brad Eckert <hwfwguy@gmail.com> - 2016-06-24 21:48 -0700
  Re: Kilocore endlessboomcapitalism@gmail.com - 2016-06-23 22:32 -0700
  Re: Kilocore darek.maksimiuk@gmail.com - 2016-06-26 13:12 -0700
  Re: Kilocore Mat <dambere@web.de> - 2016-06-26 16:36 -0700
  Re: Kilocore endlessboomcapitalism@gmail.com - 2016-06-27 11:05 -0700

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